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Shablagoo
02/15/21 1:56:13 PM
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Minneapolis will spend $6.4 million to hire dozens of police officers, even as some City Council members and activist groups are advocating to replace the police department following George Floyd's death

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/minneapolis-spend-64m-recruit-police-officers-75875382

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SSJ5_Goku
02/15/21 1:57:11 PM
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Oinks gonna oink

Also: who posted?

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Thighon
02/15/21 1:57:33 PM
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Whole country is infected with rot. No undoing the stranglehold these thugs have on the populace. No undoing it.
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darkprince45
02/16/21 1:19:02 PM
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Thighon posted...
Whole country is infected with rot. No undoing the stranglehold these thugs have on the populace. No undoing it.
supposedly there was a huge increase in violent crime after their defunded status and residents complained of long wait time response

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Kolibri X
02/16/21 1:33:10 PM
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Why the fuck would anyone want to be a cop in Minneapolis after their politicians and leaders demonized and undermined them? They put the safety of its citizens in danger for a big dumb mob and are now trying to undo the damage they done. They should be held accountable for their malfeasance.

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BobLoblaw_
02/16/21 1:37:32 PM
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Kolibri X posted...
Why the fuck would anyone want to be a cop in Minneapolis after their politicians and leaders demonized and undermined them? They put the safety of its citizens in danger for a big dumb mob and are now trying to undo the damage they done. They should be held accountable for their malfeasance.
do posts gets dumber than this?

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masticatingman
02/16/21 1:40:46 PM
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The only people who dont want police around are either engaging in non taxable criminal activity or are illegal drug users. Or theyre sympathetic to criminal activity in general thru bizarre mental and ideological gymnastics. Have no idea why any politician would think its a good idea to get rid of or replace police. They actually are the ones who enforce the same laws politicians put into place.

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Kolibri X
02/16/21 1:41:28 PM
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BobLoblaw_ posted...
do posts gets dumber than this?

Compelling.

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berlyman101
02/16/21 1:42:25 PM
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masticatingman posted...
The only people who dont want police around are either engaging in non taxable criminal activity or are illegal drug users. Or theyre sympathetic to criminal activity in general thru bizarre mental and ideological gymnastics. Have no idea why any politician would think its a good idea to get rid of or replace police. They actually are the ones who enforce the same laws politicians put into place.

well they were caught murdering citizens, for one.

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Antifar
02/16/21 1:47:32 PM
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BobLoblaw_ posted...
do posts gets dumber than this?
Didn't take long for the answer to be yes

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SiO4
02/16/21 1:50:00 PM
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darkprince45 posted...

supposedly there was a huge increase in violent crime after their defunded status and residents complained of long wait time response


I know carjackings and just stealing cars has been huge in the twin cities lately.

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gamer167
02/16/21 1:51:29 PM
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Would like to see how this money is being spent specifically. As long as the money is used to get better training and develop a process to recruit better candidates this will be a good thing.
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Thighon
02/16/21 3:04:37 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
supposedly there was a huge increase in violent crime after their defunded status and residents complained of long wait time response
Makes sense that their pussy police force would broadcast their deliberate ignoring of crimes in a bitchy temper tantrum, hoping for an increase in crime, in turn leading to dumb babyshit "i told you so"s
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darkprince45
02/16/21 3:08:33 PM
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If you want to believe that sure. Having 200 less officers would have that effect regardless. Also, violent crime uptick is a thing done by citizens not cops. Are cops deliberately making people make more violent crimes?

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ColdOne666
02/16/21 3:10:12 PM
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It's ironic that the celebrities who say they hate the police the most are often the first ones to run crying to them if something goes wrong.

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UnholyMudcrab
02/16/21 3:10:21 PM
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DarthAragorn
02/16/21 3:16:36 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
If you want to believe that sure. Having 200 less officers would have that effect regardless. Also, violent crime is a thing done by citizens not cops. Are cops deliberately making people make more violent crimes?

Lmaoooo
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WashYourHands
02/16/21 3:18:52 PM
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Who posted #3?

nvm, see the quote. Damn, I guess hair didnt want any of my wifes valentine leftovers :(

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Shablagoo
02/16/21 3:21:50 PM
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Its worth noting that the Minneapolis police were never actually defunded, by the way, despite what cop fans would like to lead you to believe.

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DemonBuffet
02/16/21 3:25:55 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Can anyone source the claim that violent crime spiked? Or are we just trusting that dude who lies constantly?

https://www.startribune.com/minneapolis-violent-crimes-soared-in-2020-amid-pandemic-protests/600019989/

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IShall_Run_Amok
02/16/21 3:34:52 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
Its worth noting that the Minneapolis police were never actually defunded, by the way, despite what cop fans would like to lead you to believe.
So they're just giving cops more money as a reward for not doing the job they're overpaid to do.

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Thighon
02/16/21 3:40:58 PM
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I looked into the study that article references - here is an except re Minneapolis:

As noted above, a precipitous rise in homicides coincided with the emergence of mass
protests after George Floyd was killed in late May by a police officer in Minneapolis. In
June through August 2020, the homicide rate was 37% higher than the previous year and
higher than during any other period in 2020. That said, the connection between police
violence, protests and social unrest, and heightened community violence remains
uncertain.

As the authors have noted previously, it may be instructive to compare recent increases in
violence to those that followed the August 2014 police killing of Michael Brown in
Ferguson, Missouri, and the subsequent protests around the country.10 In the aftermath,
homicides in large cities rose in 2015 and 2016 by nearly 22% - the largest two-year
increase in 25 years.

Analysts at the time tied the heightened violence to two versions of a so-called Ferguson
Effect, both of which remain plausible today. The first connects violence to de-policing, a
pullback in proactive law enforcement by officers who fear they will be unfairly
scrutinized and could lose their jobs. The second connects violence to de-legitimizing,
positing that disadvantaged communities drew away from police due to breached trust
and lost confidence. Reduced reliance on the police impedes crime investigations and
increases street justice to resolve disputes, resulting in more violence. While it remains
unclear how much these theories explain such increases, it is clear that no simple

Other factors:
Finally, it should be noted that other factors may be contributing to increased homicide
and violent crime. For example, some commentators have observed that massive
increases in firearm purchases at the outset of the pandemic may have contributed to an
increase in homicides and gun crimes. There is some preliminary evidence to support such
a conclusion, but more research is required.11 Other commentators have argued that
reductions in jail populations due to the pandemic and, in some places, bail reforms have
led to an increase in violence. The evidence for these claims is anecdotal at best. Finally, it
should be noted that homicides were already on the rise in January and February, so there
may be unknown factors unrelated to the pandemic or police violence contributing to
rising rates of violence. While it is impossible to be certain, it is probable that the
pandemic, protests, and other factors all combined to create a perfect storm of
circumstances pushing homicide rates to record levels.
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darkprince45
02/16/21 3:47:56 PM
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That is only referencing homicide and self admits your quote is anecdotal at best and a theory. What about the rest of the violent crime

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Thighon
02/16/21 3:49:28 PM
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I don't even know what you're trying to say. I posted excerpts I found relevant to the thread. If you have issue with what was posted (or omitted), feel free to quote and respond to same
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LightningAce11
02/16/21 3:52:38 PM
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Jeez being a cop in america seems to be such an easy gig. Barely any training, no accountability and you get paid a shit ton for screwing up.
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ViewtifulGrave
02/16/21 3:59:36 PM
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LightningAce11 posted...
Jeez being a cop in america seems to be such an easy gig. Barely any training, no accountability and you get paid a shit ton for screwing up.
Dont forget about the paid vacation if you kill someone.

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Prismsblade
02/16/21 4:54:54 PM
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Kolibri X posted...
Why the fuck would anyone want to be a cop in Minneapolis after their politicians and leaders demonized and undermined them? They put the safety of its citizens in danger for a big dumb mob and are now trying to undo the damage they done. They should be held accountable for their malfeasance.
They that's want said citizens want. At least in the inner city. If you're not pro criminal you have no chance of being elected or staying elected in citys like Minneapolis.

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Thighon
02/16/21 4:55:54 PM
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how doesnt it bother you guys to be so disingenuous

like if i catch myself being super fake and dishonest i feel gross about myself
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NoxObscuras
02/16/21 5:16:16 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
Its worth noting that the Minneapolis police were never actually defunded, by the way, despite what cop fans would like to lead you to believe.
They were never defunded, but a lot of officer's were either fired, or resigned after the protests. So, spending money to hire more officers makes sense to me.

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The Trent
02/16/21 5:17:00 PM
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ugh i bet they're hiring former LANDLORDS too fucking disgraceful that they would be hiring like this in this economy

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darkprince45
02/16/21 5:22:35 PM
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The Trent posted...
ugh i bet they're hiring former LANDLORDS too fucking disgraceful that they would be hiring like this in this economy
Oh shit, landlords with guns

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The Trent
02/16/21 5:23:15 PM
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fuck can you imagine if your landlord was a cop

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Shablagoo
02/16/21 5:53:30 PM
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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/03/crime-free-housing-lets-police-influence-landlords/605728/

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The Trent
02/16/21 5:54:10 PM
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No but when the police ARE your landlord

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Shablagoo
02/16/21 5:55:42 PM
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Yeah thatd be quite the combo lol

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GrabASnickers
02/16/21 6:05:26 PM
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ColdOne666 posted...
It's ironic that the celebrities who say they hate the police the most are often the first ones to run crying to them if something goes wrong.

People hate the reality of what police are, not the idealized concept of policing. Like you always see the strawman "I guess they hate keeping our communities safe" but cops don't do that, or it's only safe for some at the cost of safety to others. But you don't really have an option to call the "good" police so what else are people who hate cops supposed to do?

Speaking of cops not keeping communities safe, it's always funny when they falsely relate defunding to more crime, then it turns out there wasn't any defunding anyway. It's almost like having cops doesn't actually prevent crime!
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berlyman101
02/16/21 6:06:03 PM
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The Trent posted...
No but when the police ARE your landlord

can you imagine if your landlord cop was also your dad and your boss

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darkprince45
02/16/21 6:06:46 PM
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GrabASnickers posted...
then it turns out there wasn't any defunding

there was a loss of 200 officers as a direct result of last year. Which in turn helped spiked those numbers. So youre wrong

less police on the streets and responding to crime=more crime

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The Trent
02/16/21 6:07:19 PM
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berlyman101 posted...
can you imagine if your landlord cop was also your dad and your boss

"My dad would arrest me for not paying him rent but he won't violate the blue line so I've got that going for me"

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Unsugarized_Foo
02/16/21 6:09:09 PM
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I think imma join. Seems cozy

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GrabASnickers
02/16/21 6:13:49 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
responding to crime

responding to crime

Aka reactionary approach, aka not proactively preventing it

What if, crazy idea, instead of having this "bad things are going to happen, but we'll she sure as hell kick your ass for it" attitude in America, we tried instead to not make bad things happen?
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The Trent
02/16/21 6:14:53 PM
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GrabASnickers posted...
responding to crime

Aka reactionary approach, aka not proactively preventing it

What if, crazy idea, instead of having this "bad things are going to happen, but we'll she sure as hell kick your ass for it" attitude in America, we tried instead to not make bad things happen?

Go on...

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darkprince45
02/16/21 6:18:07 PM
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GrabASnickers posted...
responding to crime

Aka reactionary approach, aka not proactively preventing it

What if, crazy idea, instead of having this "bad things are going to happen, but we'll she sure as hell kick your ass for it" attitude in America, we tried instead to not make bad things happen?

lol couldnt have spoken from a position of living in privilege. Crime will never just go away no matter how much you think it will. Unless we decided to live in a future dystopia from a video game. But to help with my argument is the koper curve.

Police presence in normally high areas of crime, will deter crime from happening. So if you want crime not to happen, then you should want police



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Esrac
02/16/21 6:20:26 PM
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GrabASnickers posted...
responding to crime

Aka reactionary approach, aka not proactively preventing it

What if, crazy idea, instead of having this "bad things are going to happen, but we'll she sure as hell kick your ass for it" attitude in America, we tried instead to not make bad things happen?

You should elaborate, because you could mean several things by "proactively preventing" when it comes to crime prevention.
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Shablagoo
02/16/21 6:22:34 PM
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If you want crime not to happen you need to improve the material conditions of communities. Also lmao @ a cop accusing someone else of being privileged.

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darkprince45
02/16/21 6:25:35 PM
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was I born a cop? Last check I checked I was born in the ghetto of Chicago with parents that were immigrants. Judging from your pictures you posted here, its funny you telling a brown person theyre privileged lol. I didnt become a cop until I was 25. I busted my ass off to get where I am today. So out of touch you are

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onedarksoul
02/16/21 6:26:22 PM
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They're updating the application process, but I don't see anything about other, more substantial reforms to how policing is done.

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