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JakeFromm 03/09/21 11:15:31 AM #1:	https://www.npr.org/2021/03/08/975002036/south-dakota-passes-bill-restricting-transgender-girls-from-sports-teams Monday, the South Dakota state Senate passed a bill that restricts transgender women athletes from competing on high school and college girls' and women's teams. The measure now goes to Republican Gov. Kristi Noem who has said she is excited to sign the bill into law. "This is a very simple bill. It's a bill to protect women's sports," says Republican State Sen. Maggie Sutton, one of the primary sponsors of the legislation. "It's not against transgenders," Sutton says. "To me, it looks an awful lot like bullying," says Democratic state Sen. Reynold Nesiba, who voted against the bill. Janna Farley is the spokesperson for the ACLU of South Dakota. She says it is disheartening that legislators are spending their time on bills like this. "We don't need to have discrimination like this codified into law." The legislation requires that schools and athletic associations collect written waivers documenting every student athlete's "reproductive biology." There are roughly 40,000 students who compete in sports in the state and critics say the bill violates Title 7 and Title 9 of the Civil Rights Act by discriminating based on sex. Republican State Sen. Lee Schoenbeck voted against the bill saying it would create a mountain of new paperwork, adding that no Republican runs for office trying to grow government oversight. South Dakota is one of more than 20 states this year that has considered legislative measures along these lines, including Mississippi where lawmakers have already passed an identical bill banning transgender women from participating in girls' and women's sports teams. --- Save 15% or more on car insurance by switching to <cite>JakeFromm posted [p:951517292] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>https://www.npr.org/2021/03/08/975002036/south-dakota-passes-bill-restricting-transgender-girls-from-sports-teams <quote>Monday, the South Dakota state Senate passed a bill that restricts transgender women athletes from competing on high school and college girls' and women's teams. The measure now goes to Republican Gov. Kristi Noem who has said she is excited to sign the bill into law. "This is a very simple bill. It's a bill to protect women's sports," says Republican State Sen. Maggie Sutton, one of the primary sponsors of the legislation. "It's not against transgenders," Sutton says. "To me, it looks an awful lot like bullying," says Democratic state Sen. Reynold Nesiba, who voted against the bill. Janna Farley is the spokesperson for the ACLU of South Dakota. She says it is disheartening that legislators are spending their time on bills like this. "We don't need to have discrimination like this codified into law." The legislation requires that schools and athletic associations collect written waivers documenting every student athlete's "reproductive biology." There are roughly 40,000 students who compete in sports in the state and critics say the bill violates Title 7 and Title 9 of the Civil Rights Act by discriminating based on sex. Republican State Sen. Lee Schoenbeck voted against the bill saying it would create a mountain of new paperwork, adding that no Republican runs for office trying to grow government oversight. South Dakota is one of more than 20 states this year that has considered legislative measures along these lines, including Mississippi where lawmakers have already passed an identical bill banning transgender women from participating in girls' and women's sports teams.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 03/09/21 11:16:18 AM #2:	Middle of a pandemic and this is what Republicans care about These are some totally normally, mentally healthy people running things --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:951517319] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>Middle of a pandemic and this is what Republicans care about These are some totally normally, mentally healthy people running things </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
What_ 03/09/21 11:20:57 AM #3:	Typical republican shit <cite>What_ posted [p:951517465] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>Typical republican shit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CouldBeAnAlt 03/09/21 11:22:02 AM #4:	trans people exist republicans: And I took that personally --- Fithos lusec wecos vinosec <cite>CouldBeAnAlt posted [p:951517512] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>trans people exist republicans: And I took that personally </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 03/10/21 10:16:25 AM #6:	This is why we should have ratified the ERA back in the 70s. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:951554434] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>This is why we should have ratified the ERA back in the 70s. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/10/21 5:46:10 PM #7:	Kinda misleading to say "Sports Teams" in the topic title when it says "Womens Teams" in the article. Banning transgenders from playing all sports is ridiclous and nonsensical discrimination Banning people with biologically male bodies from competing in womens leagues makes sense. Why do you think womens leagues even exist in the first place? Biological female bodies cannot compete against male ones. Male bodies are bigger, stronger, harder, faster and have better reflexes + feel less pain. Why do you think there are 0 female players in the NBA, NFL, MLB? Why do you think Aljamain Sterling vs Amanda Nunes isn't a thing? Why do you think Serena Williams could not beat any top 200 ranked male tennis players? Your soul/mind/gender is irrelevant to your physical biology. And all physical sport is about physical biology. Except maybe Synchronised Swimming but I kinda don't think of that as a sport. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:951570857] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>Kinda misleading to say "Sports Teams" in the topic title when it says "Womens Teams" in the article. Banning transgenders from playing all sports is ridiclous and nonsensical discrimination Banning people with biologically male bodies from competing in womens leagues makes sense. Why do you think womens leagues even exist in the first place? Biological female bodies cannot compete against male ones. Male bodies are bigger, stronger, harder, faster and have better reflexes + feel less pain. Why do you think there are 0 female players in the NBA, NFL, MLB? Why do you think Aljamain Sterling vs Amanda Nunes isn't a thing? Why do you think Serena Williams could not beat any top 200 ranked male tennis players? Your soul/mind/gender is irrelevant to your physical biology. And all physical sport is about physical biology. Except maybe Synchronised Swimming but I kinda don't think of that as a sport. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 03/10/21 5:50:32 PM #8:	It amazes me how they don't even try to pretend they have a shred of decency anymore. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:951571009] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>It amazes me how they don't even try to pretend they have a shred of decency anymore. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VipaGTS 03/10/21 5:51:32 PM #9:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... It amazes me how they don't even try to pretend they have a shred of decency anymore. they dont have to. Trump has shown them that Republican voters will support this bull shit no matter what. Theyre easy to brainwash. --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." <cite>VipaGTS posted [p:951571034] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite> <quote>It amazes me how they don't even try to pretend they have a shred of decency anymore.</quote> they dont have to. Trump has shown them that Republican voters will support this bull shit no matter what. Theyre easy to brainwash. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/10/21 5:54:34 PM #10:	"I have nothing against transgenders. They need to stop thinking they are women." --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:951571114] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>"I have nothing against transgenders. They need to stop thinking they are women." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 03/10/21 5:56:54 PM #11:	Hmm.... Interesting. --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:951571196] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>Hmm.... Interesting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/10/21 6:00:33 PM #12:	hockeybub89 posted... "I have nothing against transgenders. They need to stop thinking they are women." They are women in mind, soul, gender etc but they do not have female physical biology, their bodies are different. Why are you ignoring this? That's purely what it's about. Women's sports. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:951571318] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>"I have nothing against transgenders. They need to stop thinking they are women."</quote>They are women in mind, soul, gender etc but they do not have female physical biology, their bodies are different. Why are you ignoring this? That's purely what it's about. Women's sports. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/10/21 6:09:41 PM #13:	UnfairRepresent posted... They are women in mind, soul, gender etc but they do not have female physical biology, their bodies are different. Why are you ignoring this? That's purely what it's about. Women's sports. Women should be in women's sports. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:951571628] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>They are women in mind, soul, gender etc but they do not have female physical biology, their bodies are different. Why are you ignoring this? That's purely what it's about. Women's sports.</quote>Women should be in women's sports. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/10/21 6:13:09 PM #14:	hockeybub89 posted... Women should be in women's sports. Think of them as biological women's sports leagues. You're trying to conflate physical bodies with belief or law or gender and that's not comparable. There's a reason you keep ignoring this fact --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:951571747] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Women should be in women's sports.</quote> Think of them as biological women's sports leagues. You're trying to conflate physical bodies with belief or law or gender and that's not comparable. There's a reason you keep ignoring this fact </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patty_Fleur 03/10/21 6:13:30 PM #15:	I agree with the legislation passed. Good job south Dakota. --- he/him <cite>Patty_Fleur posted [p:951571766] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>I agree with the legislation passed. Good job south Dakota. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 03/10/21 6:14:47 PM #16:	again, all this does is highlight the need to identify and help trans kids as early as possible. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! You... are classified... as a hostile... entity. <cite>Medussa posted [p:951571805] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>again, all this does is highlight the need to identify and help trans kids as early as possible. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patty_Fleur 03/10/21 6:15:38 PM #17:	Medussa posted... again, all this does is highlight the need to identify and help trans kids as early as possible. Shut the fuck up. This is about sports fairness. --- he/him <cite>Patty_Fleur posted [p:951571827] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>Medussa posted... </cite> <quote>again, all this does is highlight the need to identify and help trans kids as early as possible.</quote> Shut the fuck up. This is about sports fairness. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
34_ShaqRule_34 03/10/21 6:15:56 PM #18:	Not the time to put this law into effect considering there's more important shit to worry about But I'm also tired of the hypocrisy where feminism and trans activism pretend to be on the same side but when it comes to sports they don't give a fuck about each other <cite>34_ShaqRule_34 posted [p:951571843] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>Not the time to put this law into effect considering there's more important shit to worry about But I'm also tired of the hypocrisy where feminism and trans activism pretend to be on the same side but when it comes to sports they don't give a fuck about each other</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ColdOne666 03/10/21 6:18:04 PM #19:	UnfairRepresent posted... Banning people with biologically male bodies from competing in womens leagues makes sense. --- Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI! <cite>ColdOne666 posted [p:951571925] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Banning people with biologically male bodies from competing in womens leagues makes sense.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 03/10/21 6:18:07 PM #20:	Patty_Fleur posted... Shut the fuck up. This is about sports fairness. right. they can't use the "you went through male puberty so you'll always have that advantage" nonsense if trans girls never actually go through male puberty --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! You... are classified... as a hostile... entity. <cite>Medussa posted [p:951571926] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>Patty_Fleur posted... </cite> <quote>Shut the fuck up. This is about sports fairness.</quote> right. they can't use the "you went through male puberty so you'll always have that advantage" nonsense if trans girls never actually go through male puberty </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patty_Fleur 03/10/21 6:19:40 PM #21:	Medussa posted... right. they can't use the "you went through male puberty so you'll always have that advantage" nonsense if trans girls never actually go through male puberty You're so fucking wrong. Not all trans people take puberty blockers. --- he/him <cite>Patty_Fleur posted [p:951571984] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>Medussa posted... </cite> <quote>right. they can't use the "you went through male puberty so you'll always have that advantage" nonsense if trans girls never actually go through male puberty</quote> You're so fucking wrong. Not all trans people take puberty blockers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
34_ShaqRule_34 03/10/21 6:19:58 PM #22:	Medussa posted... right. they can't use the "you went through male puberty so you'll always have that advantage" nonsense if trans girls never actually go through male puberty So we are finally acknowledging there's a difference physically? Considering the "before puberty" stipulation? There are people on this board that will hate you for saying this. <cite>34_ShaqRule_34 posted [p:951571992] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote> right. they can't use the "you went through male puberty so you'll always have that advantage" nonsense if trans girls never actually go through male puberty </quote> So we are finally acknowledging there's a difference physically? Considering the "before puberty" stipulation? There are people on this board that will hate you for saying this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 03/10/21 6:21:26 PM #23:	the trans girls who want to play sports as girls probably all would, though, if all the obstructionist bullshit to getting them were removed. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! You... are classified... as a hostile... entity. <cite>Medussa posted [p:951572039] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>the trans girls who want to play sports as girls probably all would, though, if all the obstructionist bullshit to getting them were removed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/10/21 6:22:21 PM #24:	Patty_Fleur posted... Shut the fuck up. This is about sports fairness. All women matter. I don't see anyone crying about trans boys that are going to get hurt because their weak female bodies are going to get destroyed by males. No one is going to "protect the children" by forcing them to play with girls. This is just more trans panic that is always bigoted against trans women specifically. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:951572081] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>Patty_Fleur posted... </cite> <quote>Shut the fuck up. This is about sports fairness.</quote>All women matter. I don't see anyone crying about trans boys that are going to get hurt because their weak female bodies are going to get destroyed by males. No one is going to "protect the children" by forcing them to play with girls. This is just more trans panic that is always bigoted against trans women specifically. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
34_ShaqRule_34 03/10/21 6:23:16 PM #25:	hockeybub89 posted... All women matter. I don't see anyone crying about trans boys that are going to get hurt because their weak female bodies are going to get destroyed by males. No one is going to "protect the children" by forcing them to play with girls. This is just more trans panic that is always bigoted against trans women specifically. Why would trans boys get hurt? Are you implying there's a physical difference? That's not cool. <cite>34_ShaqRule_34 posted [p:951572110] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote> All women matter. I don't see anyone crying about trans boys that are going to get hurt because their weak female bodies are going to get destroyed by males. No one is going to "protect the children" by forcing them to play with girls. This is just more trans panic that is always bigoted against trans women specifically. </quote> Why would trans boys get hurt? Are you implying there's a physical difference? That's not cool.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 03/10/21 6:24:16 PM #26:	hockeybub89 posted... No one is going to "protect the children" by forcing them to play with girls. texas. mack beggs. which he doesn't want. which his competition doesn't want. but texas is more than happy to sacrifice all of those girls' wrestling futures. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! You... are classified... as a hostile... entity. <cite>Medussa posted [p:951572146] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>No one is going to "protect the children" by forcing them to play with girls.</quote> texas. mack beggs. which he doesn't want. which his competition doesn't want. but texas is more than happy to sacrifice all of those girls' wrestling futures. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patty_Fleur 03/10/21 6:24:18 PM #27:	Tell me why sports are separated by gender to start with? What's your answer? --- he/him <cite>Patty_Fleur posted [p:951572147] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>Tell me why sports are separated by gender to start with? What's your answer? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SamsungGearS2 03/10/21 6:24:31 PM #28:	Why not just let people play or divide up teams based on body build (height weight etc.)? --- Devices: iPhone 12 Blue, HP Envy x360, Dell Inspiron 545S, Kindle Fire HD 10 White, 2018 Toyota Corolla LE Barcelona Red, 2017 Ford Focus ST Tuxedo Black <cite>SamsungGearS2 posted [p:951572154] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>Why not just let people play or divide up teams based on body build (height weight etc.)? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
QueenCarly 03/10/21 6:24:37 PM #29:	Ahh, the fragility of cis men --- https://media.giphy.com/media/26AHNHoZ6XnXX2fhC/giphy.gif <cite>QueenCarly posted [p:951572156] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>Ahh, the fragility of cis men </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
34_ShaqRule_34 03/10/21 6:26:47 PM #30:	SamsungGearS2 posted... Why not just let people play or divide up teams based on body build (height weight etc.)? Logistics? <cite>34_ShaqRule_34 posted [p:951572244] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>SamsungGearS2 posted...</cite> <quote>Why not just let people play or divide up teams based on body build (height weight etc.)? </quote> Logistics?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patty_Fleur 03/10/21 6:26:48 PM #31:	If there was one coed soccer team at a high school, how many girls would make the team? Answer my fucking question. --- he/him <cite>Patty_Fleur posted [p:951572245] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>If there was one coed soccer team at a high school, how many girls would make the team? Answer my fucking question. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/10/21 6:28:13 PM #32:	UnfairRepresent posted... Think of them as biological women's sports leagues. You're trying to conflate physical bodies with belief or law or gender and that's not comparable. There's a reason you keep ignoring this fact "Trans women are women, except when they want to associate with women" is not the logical, but compassionate take you think it is. Either they are always women or never women. No one makes a peep about women's sports, trans women start becoming accepted and suddenly "I'm just really passionate about the fairness of women's sports and protecting the children." Nah, they're just really uncomfortable and ignorant. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:951572307] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Think of them as biological women's sports leagues. You're trying to conflate physical bodies with belief or law or gender and that's not comparable. There's a reason you keep ignoring this fact</quote>"Trans women are women, except when they want to associate with women" is not the logical, but compassionate take you think it is. Either they are always women or never women. No one makes a peep about women's sports, trans women start becoming accepted and suddenly "I'm just really passionate about the fairness of women's sports and protecting the children." Nah, they're just really uncomfortable and ignorant. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
34_ShaqRule_34 03/10/21 6:29:57 PM #33:	hockeybub89 posted... "Trans women are women, except when they want to associate with women" is not the logical, but compassionate take you think it is. Either they are always women or never women. No one makes a peep about women's sports, trans women start becoming accepted and suddenly "I'm just really passionate about the fairness of women's sports and protecting the children." Nah, they're just really uncomfortable and ignorant. Why did you make a point about trans men getting hurt by cis men? <cite>34_ShaqRule_34 posted [p:951572386] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote> "Trans women are women, except when they want to associate with women" is not the logical, but compassionate take you think it is. Either they are always women or never women. No one makes a peep about women's sports, trans women start becoming accepted and suddenly "I'm just really passionate about the fairness of women's sports and protecting the children." Nah, they're just really uncomfortable and ignorant. </quote> Why did you make a point about trans men getting hurt by cis men?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyle1022 03/10/21 6:30:51 PM #34:	QueenCarly posted... Ahh, the fragility of cis men The governor who signed (will sign?) it and the senator who supported it are both female. The senator against it is a male. Unlike this bill, bigotry doesn't discriminate. --- PC \| Switch \| Wii U \| Wii \| GC \| N64 \| SNES \| NES \| PS5 \| PS4 Pro \| PS3 \| PS2 \| PS1 \| Xbox Series X \| N3DS \| DSi \| GBA \| GBC \| Vita \| PSP <cite>Kyle1022 posted [p:951572423] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>QueenCarly posted... </cite> <quote>Ahh, the fragility of cis men</quote>The governor who signed (will sign?) it and the senator who supported it are both female. The senator against it is a male. Unlike this bill, bigotry doesn't discriminate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/10/21 6:31:11 PM #35:	34_ShaqRule_34 posted... Not the time to put this law into effect considering there's more important shit to worry about There's always going to be more important things than this lol But I'm also tired of the hypocrisy where feminism and trans activism pretend to be on the same side but when it comes to sports they don't give a fuck about each other Well they're fundamentally at odds on this point. Radical Feminism wants to push and promote the abilities of women. Radical Transgender Rights groups want equality in all things regardless of biology. When this comes to sports it would mean transgenders with male bodies would push the limits of what the abilities of women are physically to a new high. Which a lot of femminists would see as a step backwards in their quest. Praising the abilities of the best women being humans with male biology See: Mary Gregory SamsungGearS2 posted... Why not just let people play or divide up teams based on body build (height weight etc.)? Because the men would always win --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:951572438] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>34_ShaqRule_34 posted... </cite> <quote>Not the time to put this law into effect considering there's more important shit to worry about</quote> There's always going to be more important things than this lol <quote> But I'm also tired of the hypocrisy where feminism and trans activism pretend to be on the same side but when it comes to sports they don't give a fuck about each other</quote> Well they're fundamentally at odds on this point. Radical Feminism wants to push and promote the abilities of women. Radical Transgender Rights groups want equality in all things regardless of biology. When this comes to sports it would mean transgenders with male bodies would push the limits of what the abilities of women are physically to a new high. Which a lot of femminists would see as a step backwards in their quest. Praising the abilities of the best women being humans with male biology See: Mary Gregory SamsungGearS2 posted... </cite> <quote>Why not just let people play or divide up teams based on body build (height weight etc.)?</quote> Because the men would always win </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Patty_Fleur 03/10/21 6:32:26 PM #36:	It's not bigotry. They are looking out for cis women who had a safe space in women's sports that others are now threatening. They are physical differences between men and women. That's a fair statement. --- he/him <cite>Patty_Fleur posted [p:951572485] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>It's not bigotry. They are looking out for cis women who had a safe space in women's sports that others are now threatening. They are physical differences between men and women. That's a fair statement. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fohstick 03/10/21 6:33:22 PM #37:	fairest of the next <cite>fohstick posted [p:951572525] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>fairest of the next </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coh 03/10/21 6:33:40 PM #38:	There was literally a South Park episode about this <cite>coh posted [p:951572531] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>There was literally a South Park episode about this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
34_ShaqRule_34 03/10/21 6:34:03 PM #39:	I asked twice why hockeybub made a point about trans men getting hurt by cis men and it looks like they disappeared. <cite>34_ShaqRule_34 posted [p:951572538] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>I asked twice why hockeybub made a point about trans men getting hurt by cis men and it looks like they disappeared.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 03/10/21 6:34:07 PM #40:	we're not talking about men. we're talking about the differences between cis and trans women. if you can't even get to that point, you're probably not arguing in good faith. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! You... are classified... as a hostile... entity. <cite>Medussa posted [p:951572546] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>we're not talking about men. we're talking about the differences between cis and trans women. if you can't even get to that point, you're probably not arguing in good faith. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/10/21 6:36:23 PM #41:	34_ShaqRule_34 posted... Why would trans boys get hurt? Are you implying there's a physical difference? That's not cool. I'm just flipping the argument. Shouldn't trans boys be forced to play with girls to be logically consistent? Cis girls trying out for boys' teams should also be literally illegal. Do we not need to protect all children? But no, we're just worried the big manly men are going to beat up all the girls. There is a physical difference between all people. Not all males or all females are equal in strength or size. Should we have multiple divisions in both boys and girls sports? Would that not be more fair to all children? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:951572625] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>34_ShaqRule_34 posted... </cite> <quote>Why would trans boys get hurt? Are you implying there's a physical difference? That's not cool.</quote>I'm just flipping the argument. Shouldn't trans boys be forced to play with girls to be logically consistent? Cis girls trying out for boys' teams should also be literally illegal. Do we not need to protect all children? But no, we're just worried the big manly men are going to beat up all the girls. There is a physical difference between all people. Not all males or all females are equal in strength or size. Should we have multiple divisions in both boys and girls sports? Would that not be more fair to all children? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/10/21 6:36:54 PM #42:	hockeybub89 posted... No one makes a peep about women's sports, trans women start becoming accepted and suddenly "I'm just really passionate about the fairness of women's sports and protecting the children." Nah, they're just really uncomfortable and ignorant. This is such a bullshit argument but I'll bite I actually like, watch and support womens UFC. But even if I didn't, talk about something I don't care about. NFL. I don't watch the NFL much and I doubt I ever will but I would still be opposed to them letting biological males play in the womens league. It would ruin the league for those players and their fans, regardless of I personally care or not. "You're not personally a fan, therefore it doesn't matter." is such a dumb fallacy Why do you think womens leagues exist dude? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:951572642] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote> No one makes a peep about women's sports, trans women start becoming accepted and suddenly "I'm just really passionate about the fairness of women's sports and protecting the children." Nah, they're just really uncomfortable and ignorant.</quote>This is such a bullshit argument but I'll bite I actually like, watch and support womens UFC. But even if I didn't, talk about something I don't care about. NFL. I don't watch the NFL much and I doubt I ever will but I would still be opposed to them letting biological males play in the womens league. It would ruin the league for those players and their fans, regardless of I personally care or not. "You're not personally a fan, therefore it doesn't matter." is such a dumb fallacy Why do you think womens leagues exist dude? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
34_ShaqRule_34 03/10/21 6:38:28 PM #43:	Shouldn't trans boys be forced to play with girls to be logically consistent? I'm lost. What makes the argument logically consistent? <cite>34_ShaqRule_34 posted [p:951572687] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote><quote>Shouldn't trans boys be forced to play with girls to be logically consistent? </quote> I'm lost. What makes the argument logically consistent?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 03/10/21 6:38:58 PM #44:	complains about bullshit arguments argues pro sports in a topic about a law regarding HS and College teams thumbs up --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! You... are classified... as a hostile... entity. <cite>Medussa posted [p:951572710] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>complains about bullshit arguments argues pro sports in a topic about a law regarding HS and College teams thumbs up </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
34_ShaqRule_34 03/10/21 6:39:32 PM #45:	Medussa posted... complains about bullshit arguments argues pro sports in a topic about a law regarding HS and College teams thumbs up Wait why would you separate the rules for pro sports? <cite>34_ShaqRule_34 posted [p:951572735] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>complains about bullshit arguments argues pro sports in a topic about a law regarding HS and College teams thumbs up </quote> Wait why would you separate the rules for pro sports?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/10/21 6:40:35 PM #46:	hockeybub89 posted... Shouldn't trans boys be forced to play with girls to be logically consistent? Cis girls trying out for boys' teams should also be literally illegal. Do we not need to protect all children? But no, we're just worried the big manly men are going to beat up all the girls. FtM transgenders who aren't on hormones/steroids etc should play in the womens league if they want to. Anyone should be allowed to play on the 'mens' league if they want too, there should be no restrictions. I don't think you understand biology There is a physical difference between all people. Not all males or all females are equal in strength or size. Should we have multiple divisions in both boys and girls sports? Would that not be more fair to all children? There's a difference between male/female skills and male/male of a different height. Also some sports do have weight divisions. Martial Arts and wrestling. Others don't need it You don't have a point here --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:951572774] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Shouldn't trans boys be forced to play with girls to be logically consistent? Cis girls trying out for boys' teams should also be literally illegal. Do we not need to protect all children? But no, we're just worried the big manly men are going to beat up all the girls.</quote> FtM transgenders who aren't on hormones/steroids etc should play in the womens league if they want to. Anyone should be allowed to play on the 'mens' league if they want too, there should be no restrictions. I don't think you understand biology <quote> There is a physical difference between all people. Not all males or all females are equal in strength or size. Should we have multiple divisions in both boys and girls sports? Would that not be more fair to all children?</quote> There's a difference between male/female skills and male/male of a different height. Also some sports do have weight divisions. Martial Arts and wrestling. Others don't need it You don't have a point here </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/10/21 6:41:21 PM #47:	34_ShaqRule_34 posted... I'm lost. What makes the argument logically consistent? We want to protect children from being hurt by bigger and stronger children. If we let a trans boy or a cis girl play with cis boys, wouldn't that put them at danger? Or are children allowed to put themselves at a biological disadvantage? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:951572799] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>34_ShaqRule_34 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm lost. What makes the argument logically consistent?</quote>We want to protect children from being hurt by bigger and stronger children. If we let a trans boy or a cis girl play with cis boys, wouldn't that put them at danger? Or are children allowed to put themselves at a biological disadvantage? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyle1022 03/10/21 6:45:08 PM #48:	JakeFromm posted... She says it is disheartening that legislators are spending their time on bills like this. Thats what I'm saying. People mention how trans people make up a fraction of a percent of the population, and complain how they're overrepresented in media or whatever. Well, if they make up such a small number of the population and even less of those are kids, why are Republicans wasting their time making these laws about them? They really wanna pick on the 4 transgender kids in the state of South Dakota that badly? --- PC \| Switch \| Wii U \| Wii \| GC \| N64 \| SNES \| NES \| PS5 \| PS4 Pro \| PS3 \| PS2 \| PS1 \| Xbox Series X \| N3DS \| DSi \| GBA \| GBC \| Vita \| PSP <cite>Kyle1022 posted [p:951572937] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>JakeFromm posted... </cite> <quote>She says it is disheartening that legislators are spending their time on bills like this.</quote>Thats what I'm saying. People mention how trans people make up a fraction of a percent of the population, and complain how they're overrepresented in media or whatever. Well, if they make up such a small number of the population and even less of those are kids, why are Republicans wasting their time making these laws about them? They really wanna pick on the 4 transgender kids in the state of South Dakota that badly? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/10/21 6:48:05 PM #49:	Kyle1022 posted... Thats what I'm saying. People mention how trans people make up a fraction of a percent of the population, and complain how they're overrepresented in media or whatever. Kind of a dumb argument. There's always "more important things going on" that doesn't mean you don't do local law/leglislation Well, if they make up such a small number of the population and even less of those are kids, why are Republicans wasting their time making these laws about them? They really wanna pick on the 4 transgender kids in the state of South Dakota that badly? 40,000 students* And the numbers are going to get higher, not lower. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:951573053] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>Kyle1022 posted... </cite> <quote>Thats what I'm saying. People mention how trans people make up a fraction of a percent of the population, and complain how they're overrepresented in media or whatever.</quote> Kind of a dumb argument. There's always "more important things going on" that doesn't mean you don't do local law/leglislation <quote> Well, if they make up such a small number of the population and even less of those are kids, why are Republicans wasting their time making these laws about them? They really wanna pick on the 4 transgender kids in the state of South Dakota that badly?</quote>40,000 students* And the numbers are going to get higher, not lower. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyle1022 03/10/21 6:50:24 PM #50:	UnfairRepresent posted... 40,000 students* Where'd you come up with the number of 40k trans students in South Dakota? --- PC \| Switch \| Wii U \| Wii \| GC \| N64 \| SNES \| NES \| PS5 \| PS4 Pro \| PS3 \| PS2 \| PS1 \| Xbox Series X \| N3DS \| DSi \| GBA \| GBC \| Vita \| PSP <cite>Kyle1022 posted [p:951573130] in South Dako... [t:79339238]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>40,000 students*</quote>Where'd you come up with the number of 40k trans students in South Dakota? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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