Poll of the Day > Floyd Family Reaches Historic $27Million Dollar Settlement...

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pionear
03/12/21 3:08:18 PM
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Which One?


https://www.yahoo.com/news/george-floyds-family-reaches-27-m-settlement-with-minneapolis-193235352.html

Think it's a Fair Amount? (Poll Question)
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Muscles
03/12/21 3:12:04 PM
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I feel like it would have been more fair just to throw his murderer in jail

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Mead
03/12/21 3:14:30 PM
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Muscles posted...
I feel like it would have been more fair just to throw his murderer in jail

this

the announcement of this settlement is probably an attempt to temper the outrage when his murderer faces no real consequences which is likely to happen

these settlements are paid by the taxpayers and they shouldnt have to keep bailing out corrupt departments and police unions that have made it nearly impossible for police to be held accountable for wrongdoing

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JOExHIGASHI
03/12/21 3:14:57 PM
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If I cost my employer 27 million I'd be out of the job, probably fined/sued, and blacklisted from the industry.

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Blighboy
03/12/21 3:16:13 PM
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Muscles posted...
I feel like it would have been more fair just to throw his murderer in jail
It's a bribe

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Judgmenl
03/12/21 3:19:59 PM
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I don't think a settlement is fair. The guy should have gone to jail for what he did to Floyd.
It was horrific.

Blighboy posted...
It's a bribe

This. Disgusting.

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Mead
03/12/21 3:23:09 PM
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How is it a bribe?

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BlueOcean
03/12/21 3:26:11 PM
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I dont know whats right for this. Its not a monetary thing. Police reformation and redirection of funds AND a few million would "make it worth it"

But hes still gone...
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ReggieTheReckless
03/12/21 3:27:19 PM
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Muscles posted...
I feel like it would have been more fair just to throw his murderer in jail
That
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Zeus
03/12/21 3:28:38 PM
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pionear posted...
Think it's a Fair Amount? (Poll Question)

That's an insanely huge payout that comes straight from the taxpayers' pockets.

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DragonClaw01
03/12/21 3:32:04 PM
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Muscles posted...
I feel like it would have been more fair just to throw his murderer in jail
Fair, maybe, but I would much rather take the $27 million.

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Decoy77
03/12/21 3:33:31 PM
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I voted no since it asked if it was a fair amount and the correct answer is zero.

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Mead
03/12/21 3:35:30 PM
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Decoy77 posted...
I voted no since it asked if it was a fair amount and the correct answer is zero.

could you elaborate on what you mean by that?

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adjl
03/12/21 3:37:12 PM
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Mead posted...
these settlements are paid by the taxpayers and they shouldnt have to keep bailing out corrupt departments and police unions that have made it nearly impossible for police to be held accountable for wrongdoing

Pretty much. If it came out of the pockets of his killer and everyone found to be responsible for letting him stay on the force despite his history of abusive behaviour? I'd be more okay with it. As it stands, though, they're just saying "look, we gave them money! We care about them even though we didn't convict his killer!", which is a thoroughly hollow gesture when it's not their money.

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Blighboy
03/12/21 3:37:43 PM
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Mead posted...
could you elaborate on what you mean by that?
I think it's pretty clear what he means but we can put a hood on him if that helps

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Nade Duck
03/12/21 3:39:35 PM
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did something happen to roger waters?

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Lokarin
03/12/21 3:54:26 PM
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Zeus posted...
That's an insanely huge payout that comes straight from the taxpayers' pockets.

If the taxpayers don't like it then the taxpayers should have more say in making sure cops aren't being abusive.

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Zeus
03/12/21 4:09:13 PM
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Lokarin posted...
If the taxpayers don't like it then the taxpayers should have more say in making sure cops aren't being abusive.

Which is a largely fallacious argument because taxpayers have very little say in that. In theory, you could have taxpayers demand that their communities go from having police departments to sheriffs' departments since sheriff is an elected position whereas police chiefs are appointed, but there are so many fucking hurdles even before you get into the amount of buy-in you'd need AND even then it probably wouldn't solve that many issues before they happened, let alone solve the recurring social problem where citizens resisting arrest wind up leading to an escalation in the use of force and creating situations that are far more likely to end badly (even without factoring in things like choke holds).

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Blighboy
03/12/21 4:13:47 PM
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Zeus posted...
Which is a largely fallacious argument because taxpayers have very little say in that. In theory, you could have taxpayers demand that their communities go from having police departments to sheriffs' departments since sheriff is an elected position whereas police chiefs are appointed, but there are so many fucking hurdles even before you get into the amount of buy-in you'd need AND even then it probably wouldn't solve that many issues before they happened, let alone solve the recurring social problem where citizens resisting arrest wind up leading to an escalation in the use of force and creating situations that are far more likely to end badly (even without factoring in things like choke holds).
Wow life sure is easier when we just let people get away with murder huh

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Judgmenl
03/12/21 4:16:18 PM
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Zeus' a racist, so he doesn't actually think it's murder.
I bet he doesn't even understand what happened, and how gruesome it was.

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Mead
03/12/21 4:17:08 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
Zeus' a racist, so he doesn't actually think it's murder.
I bet he doesn't even understand what happened, and how gruesome it was.

he understands he just doesnt give a fuck

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Lokarin
03/12/21 4:42:09 PM
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Zeus posted...
Which is a largely fallacious argument because taxpayers have very little say in that. In theory, you could have taxpayers demand that their communities go from having police departments to sheriffs' departments since sheriff is an elected position whereas police chiefs are appointed, but there are so many fucking hurdles even before you get into the amount of buy-in you'd need AND even then it probably wouldn't solve that many issues before they happened, let alone solve the recurring social problem where citizens resisting arrest wind up leading to an escalation in the use of force and creating situations that are far more likely to end badly (even without factoring in things like choke holds).

maybe if they stand in the street and hunger strike that might work

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Mead
03/12/21 4:54:53 PM
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There is no form of effective and racially driven protest that is acceptable to racists.

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Zeus
03/12/21 5:04:06 PM
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Blighboy posted...
Wow life sure is easier when we just let people get away with murder huh

What are you even babbling about?

Lokarin posted...
maybe if they stand in the street and hunger strike that might work

Maybe if you stop posting nonsense that might work.

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InfernalFive
03/12/21 5:06:02 PM
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Why on earth would this family need that much money? Pretty sure any decent person would rather see those particular cops in jail.

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Zeus
03/12/21 5:16:35 PM
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InfernalFive posted...
Why on earth would this family need that much money?

tbh, we really do need federal limits on government-involved lawsuits and settlements.

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Lokarin
03/12/21 5:18:05 PM
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InfernalFive posted...
Why on earth would this family need that much money? Pretty sure any decent person would rather see those particular cops in jail.

It was a settlement ... which implies the projected losses would have been even higher

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JOExHIGASHI
03/12/21 5:19:15 PM
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InfernalFive posted...
Why on earth would this family need that much money? Pretty sure any decent person would rather see those particular cops in jail.
Pain and suffering

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Zeus
03/12/21 5:25:55 PM
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Lokarin posted...
It was a settlement ... which implies the projected losses would have been even higher

Zeus posted...
tbh, we really do need federal limits on government-involved lawsuits and settlements.


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Blighboy
03/12/21 5:27:48 PM
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Zeus reads a news story about a plane crash and is like "wow we really need to invest in larger cemeteries".

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Zeus
03/12/21 5:36:02 PM
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Blighboy posted...
Zeus reads a news story about a plane crash and is like "wow we really need to invest in larger cemeteries".

Oh look, now Bligh is joking about plane crashes. I guess joking about running posters over with your car got old? -_-

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Blighboy
03/12/21 5:40:11 PM
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Zeus posted...
Oh look, now Bligh is joking about plane crashes. I guess joking about running posters over with your car got old? -_-

https://ca.movies.yahoo.com/oklahoma-house-passes-bill-protect-141422007.html

Wonder what Zeus has to say about this lol

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FatalAccident
03/12/21 5:43:45 PM
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Muscles posted...
I feel like it would have been more fair just to throw his murderer in jail


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xjayguyx
03/12/21 5:44:31 PM
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27 million? Wow that's a lot of reparations..
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Zareth
03/12/21 5:47:16 PM
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This goes beyond just "put his murderer in jail," we need to change the way police officers are trained. He was following his training, and he ended up killing the man.

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Zikten
03/12/21 5:47:27 PM
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I wish the cops had to pay the money directly . Maybe they would be more reluctant to murder people if they got a financial penalty
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InfernalFive
03/12/21 5:47:51 PM
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Give those people 2 million and use the other 25 million to actually do something about fixing the system that caused this disaster in the first place.

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Zeus
03/12/21 5:48:13 PM
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Blighboy posted...
https://ca.movies.yahoo.com/oklahoma-house-passes-bill-protect-141422007.html

Wonder what Zeus has to say about this lol

Leave it to Bligh who jokes about wanting to INTENTIONALLY commit vehicular manslaughter against people on this board to object to laws protecting motorists when they UNINTENTIONALLY hit somebody while fleeing because they have legitimate concerns for their safety and that of their passengers, which has included children as we've seen at times.

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Blighboy
03/12/21 5:50:31 PM
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thank you zeus for protecting innocent posters from an imaginary car

InfernalFive posted...
Give those people 2 million and use the other 25 million to actually do something about fixing the system that caused this disaster in the first place.
It's not a money issue, which is why "defund the police" is such a powerful slogan. Money put into the police department tends to go towards training them to be more violent and giving them more dangerous tools.

The actual solution will undoubtedly cost a lot of money, but more than that it needs leadership and political willpower.

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Zeus
03/12/21 5:51:41 PM
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Blighboy posted...
which is why "defund the police" is such a powerful slogan.

"I guess you can use a snappy slogan like 'Defund The Police,' but, you know, you lost a big audience the minute you say it, which makes it a lot less likely that you're actually going to get the changes you want done" -- Obama https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/02/politics/barack-obama-defund-the-police/index.html

So powerful!


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Mead
03/12/21 5:51:59 PM
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Zareth posted...
This goes beyond just "put his murderer in jail," we need to change the way police officers are trained. He was following his training, and he ended up killing the man.

how is it their training to kneel down on a persons neck for many minutes long after they stop responding

and what part of their training instructs them to not attempt resuscitation

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InfernalFive
03/12/21 5:53:28 PM
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Blighboy posted...
thank you zeus for protecting innocent posters from an imaginary car

It's not a money issue, which is why "defund the police" is such a powerful slogan. Money put into the police department tends to go towards training them to be more violent and giving them more dangerous tools.

The actual solution will undoubtedly cost a lot of money, but more than that it needs leadership and political willpower.
Agreed. The money definitely should come from the police budget, not from the taxpayers.

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Mead
03/12/21 5:54:13 PM
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InfernalFive posted...
Agreed. The money definitely should come from the police budget, not from the taxpayers.

Isnt that exactly where they get their budget tho

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TheSlinja
03/12/21 5:56:24 PM
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Zeus posted...
"I guess you can use a snappy slogan like 'Defund The Police,' but, you know, you lost a big audience the minute you say it, which makes it a lot less likely that you're actually going to get the changes you want done" -- Obama https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/02/politics/barack-obama-defund-the-police/index.html

So powerful!
obama hasnt been shit since he got in office

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InfernalFive
03/12/21 5:58:19 PM
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Mead posted...
Isnt that exactly where they get their budget tho
Maybe. I don't really feel like researching Minneapolis' budget lol

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Blighboy
03/12/21 5:58:20 PM
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Zeus posted...
"I guess you can use a snappy slogan like 'Defund The Police,' but, you know, you lost a big audience the minute you say it, which makes it a lot less likely that you're actually going to get the changes you want done" -- Obama https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/02/politics/barack-obama-defund-the-police/index.html

So powerful!
Y'all spent a decade talking about how BLM was a harmful and divisive slogan, so maybe switch it up a bit lol

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Muscles
03/12/21 6:03:15 PM
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Zareth posted...
This goes beyond just "put his murderer in jail," we need to change the way police officers are trained. He was following his training, and he ended up killing the man.
Well yeah, but holding his murderer accountable is a good start

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Mead
03/12/21 6:18:32 PM
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The worst part is that we all already know that he is not going be convicted. Its palpable how much you can just feel it.

Even if they shock us all and he goes to prison where he belongs, assholes are gonna use it for decades in arguments as a justification for more cases of police brutality. Theyll insist that there isnt a systemic problem with law enforcement and police brutality against certain groups because Hey they put away Floyds murderer though!

You saw the same facetious crap back when Obama got elected. How can there be so much racism if a black man is president??? Hmmm?!

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keyblader1985
03/12/21 6:33:03 PM
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That money is honestly a slap in the face if justice will not be served.

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03/12/21 7:25:01 PM
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does anybody know if the floyd family has to pay taxes on that 27 mil? i thought they didn't have to

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