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MedeaLysistrata
04/03/21 5:53:17 PM
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Serious topic

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DeadBankerDream
04/03/21 5:53:48 PM
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You can't, therefore God exists.

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MedeaLysistrata
04/03/21 5:55:33 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
You can't, therefore God exists.
Anything can have abstract existence

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pure_temper
04/03/21 5:56:16 PM
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Im of the view that anything which could be depicted on a screen or with CGI could in principle exist or be made to exist with sufficiently powerful tech

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nfearurspecimn
04/03/21 5:56:43 PM
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can our brains conceive of anything that doesn't follow logic? like can our brains think abstractly like for example escher type logic?

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MedeaLysistrata
04/03/21 5:57:15 PM
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The problem is that I have an idea that is on the verge of being clear, but right now it's not clear enough for be to look at closely

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nfearurspecimn
04/03/21 5:58:02 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
The problem is that I have an idea that is on the verge of being clear, but right now it's not clear enough for be to look at closely
I know what you mean I think

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COVxy
04/03/21 5:58:05 PM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
can our brains conceive of anything that doesn't follow logic? like can our brains think abstractly like for example escher type logic?

Yes. See: humanity.

Lol.

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LeadPipeCinche
04/03/21 5:59:27 PM
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Tc doesn't remember when Noah fought the rock monsters in the Bible before sailing the Ark.

Omg can't believe i typed that bullshit out. And there is only 1 Ark and its of Transformers G1 not the Bible.
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pure_temper
04/03/21 5:59:38 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
The problem is that I have an idea that is on the verge of being clear, but right now it's not clear enough for be to look at closely

i think your idea is that anything which can be conceived of, can exist

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pure_temper
04/03/21 6:03:24 PM
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LivingLegend posted...
Unicorns dont exist but its pretty easy to think about a horse with a gigantic horn.

They couldve just been a species of horse or goat or something that was used for labor/riding before they went extinct

and given enough tech we could create such animals if we wanted (horned horse or
something, like a rhino-horse hybrid)

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CommonJoe
04/03/21 6:08:14 PM
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Depends on how strict you want to be about what counts as unique conception.

Its like inventing a color. Theres no actual way to concieve of it without the ability to physically see it.

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MedeaLysistrata
04/03/21 6:09:10 PM
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I guess the challenge is to know whether the idea is just an apparition and there is nothing really there, or just something complex that requires time

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RedJackson
04/03/21 6:09:42 PM
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Like making music? I dunno, you just do it >_>

then it just becomes real - I dont tend to think of how realistic something is tbh, thats useless thinking for a person like me

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pure_temper
04/03/21 6:10:29 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
I guess the challenge is to know whether the idea is just an apparition and there is nothing really there, or just something complex that requires time

if it isnt self-contradictory it either exists or can be made to exist imo

would have to think about it more tho

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COVxy
04/03/21 6:11:50 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
I guess the challenge is to know whether the idea is just an apparition and there is nothing really there, or just something complex that requires time

Write it down. Keeping things in thoughts only allows you to skip over all the necessary reasoning because things flow nicely or seem like they should work.

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MedeaLysistrata
04/04/21 7:39:01 AM
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COVxy posted...
Write it down. Keeping things in thoughts only allows you to skip over all the necessary reasoning because things flow nicely or seem like they should work.
This helped a bit, but it just led to a disappointment

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