Current Events > If you are anti-America you are pro-China

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pure_temper
04/04/21 7:05:23 AM
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Until the UN and delegates from all countries can go to Xinjiang and verify with livestreams and cameras that there is no Uyghur genocide, the situation there cannot be trusted. So we are at the point where a line must be drawn in the sand. No other military or navy on earth has a chance. Anything which compromises American unity and strength is at this point support for China - whether by intention or by accident. The reason for this is because diminishing Americas power abroad means increasing Chinas. And that means accepting the CCPs Uyghur camps and ambitions for Taiwan.

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Southernfatman
04/04/21 7:06:57 AM
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Eh, fuck both of them.

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pure_temper
04/04/21 7:07:21 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
Eh, fuck both of them.

you have to make a choice

because there is no such option

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Nukazie
04/04/21 7:07:26 AM
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'Murica!

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cavalierking
04/04/21 7:07:42 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
Eh, fuck both of them.


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Error1355
04/04/21 7:08:43 AM
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pure_temper posted...
you have to make a choice

because there is no such option
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pure_temper
04/04/21 7:09:04 AM
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Nukazie posted...
'Murica!

i mean yeah. No country is perfect and we have much to learn, but the choice is clear to me. hell yeah I support America.

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pure_temper
04/04/21 7:09:53 AM
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Error1355 posted...
Beep Bep

Bep Beep (youre up early Error1355)

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fuming
04/04/21 7:11:21 AM
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This is like arguing you have to be pro trump or pro biden. You don't have to defend either one even if you have a slight preference.
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Nukazie
04/04/21 7:11:37 AM
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pure_temper posted...
i mean yeah. No country is perfect and we have much to learn, but the choice is clear to me. hell yeah I support America.
i hope at least 1 American boat is sent to interfere on the Philippines' sea full of Chinese warships

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CyricZ
04/04/21 7:12:43 AM
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Proudclad with those "early morning stub your toe on the coffee table and trip headlong into a floor lamp" takes.

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cavalierking
04/04/21 7:14:42 AM
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also, just a reminder that tc is one of those hyper-patriotic, white-guy-who's-never-been-to-another country-yet-thinks-america-is-the-greatest-nation-on-earth types

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pure_temper
04/04/21 7:15:01 AM
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fuming posted...
This is like arguing you have to be pro trump or pro biden. You don't have to defend either one even if you have a slight preference.

that changes when theres a million to two million Uyghur Muslims in camps

until UN and delegates from all countries can go and independently give the all-clear, we have to choose one. The alternative is failing to be united against something which doesnt look good at all

to put it lightly

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Shablagoo
04/04/21 7:17:55 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
Eh, fuck both of them.

A counterpoint:

https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2021/03/31/opposing-all-governments-equally-is-supporting-the-most-powerful-government/

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teep_
04/04/21 7:28:05 AM
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pure_temper posted...
Southernfatman posted...
Eh, fuck both of them.

you have to make a choice

because there is no such option

a better phrase would be false black and white thinking, I guess
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DeadlyNinjaBees
04/04/21 7:30:16 AM
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There's no line in the sand. They're both governments.
Governments are temporary structures. You can hate the Chinese government without being an arsebear to the people of China. It's like how the rest of the world recently had to experience Trump shit for four years and suffer the repercussions whilst only making mildly-snarky-at-best comments to the people of America.

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pure_temper
04/04/21 7:31:25 AM
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DeadlyNinjaBees posted...
There's no line in the sand. They're both governments.
Governments are temporary structures. You can hate the Chinese government without being an arsebear to the people of China. It's like how the rest of the world recently had to experience Trump shit for four years and suffer the repercussions whilst only making mildly-snarky-at-best comments to the people of America.

yeah of course

the regular person in each country has no power

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Error1355
04/04/21 7:36:38 AM
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pure_temper posted...
Bep Beep (youre up early Error1355)
I'm up at this time 5 days a week.

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pure_temper
04/04/21 7:37:47 AM
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Error1355 posted...
I'm up at this time 5 days a week.



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Funkydog
04/04/21 7:40:04 AM
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What. Literally what.

This nationalistic bullshit is bullshit. You can be anti China while being anti American and thinking America is a cause of a plethora of its own problems. Being against China's genocide doesn't mean I am suddenly a supporter of America and its values.

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pure_temper
04/04/21 7:47:05 AM
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Funkydog posted...
What. Literally what.

This nationalistic bullshit is bullshit. You can be anti China while being anti American and thinking America is a cause of a plethora of its own problems. Being against China's genocide doesn't mean I am suddenly a supporter of America and its values.

which other nation on earth has the bark necessary for sanctions that would mean anything to the CCP and the Uyghur genocide?

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ssjevot
04/04/21 7:52:20 AM
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This is literally the same black and white thinking tankies use. I oppose the horrible actions of both the US and Chinese governments. I don't have to pick a side to defend.

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pure_temper
04/04/21 7:54:39 AM
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ssjevot posted...
This is literally the same black and white thinking tankies use. I oppose the horrible actions of both the US and Chinese governments. I don't have to pick a side to defend.

which other nation on earth has the bark necessary for sanctions that would mean anything to the CCP and the Uyghur genocide?

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Funkydog
04/04/21 7:55:30 AM
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pure_temper posted...
which other nation on earth has the bark necessary for sanctions that would mean anything to the CCP and the Uyghur genocide?
Irrelevant.

You can still be anti American, while supporting for sanctions against China from EU, America and the rest of the world. Your line of thinking is pure 100% nationalism and the thinking people want to use to other other people, to make you pick a side, to make you "be American" to "be patriotic". Be it worshiping the flag, truly being whatever nationality it is you are and so on, it's never done with your benefit in mind but the states. They want you thinking like this so when they later say "only X are really American" people will be more compliant and follow the authoritarian nonsense they want to inflict.

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Choco
04/04/21 7:56:48 AM
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ssjevot
04/04/21 7:59:18 AM
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pure_temper posted...
which other nation on earth has the bark necessary for sanctions that would mean anything to the CCP and the Uyghur genocide?

Why do you think the US cares about stopping the genocide? They have allowed plenty of genocides to occur and contributed to others. They oppose the CCP because it's a rival imperial power, not because they're the good guys.

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