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VigorouslySwish 04/05/21 11:33:25 AM #1:	A shotgun or handgun for protection? Fine. A rifle for hunting? Sure. An AR-15? Its only purpose is to go on the offensive against other humans. Not ok. --- i'm just some guy yellin' about apple sauce <cite>VigorouslySwish posted [p:952488511] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>A shotgun or handgun for protection? Fine. A rifle for hunting? Sure. An AR-15? Its only purpose is to go on the offensive against other humans. Not ok. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonGrackle 04/05/21 11:46:08 AM #2:	why can't an AR be used for protection or hunting? <cite>CommonGrackle posted [p:952488902] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>why can't an AR be used for protection or hunting?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 04/05/21 11:51:29 AM #3:	CommonGrackle posted... why can't an AR be used for protection or hunting? it can, but ppl like the TC just want cops to be the only ones with semi autos and full autos theyd go for pistols next since most gun crimes are committed with pistols, but since their intention is obviously anti 2nd Amendment they are trying to sneak around that fact to just bring it up later - we banned ar-15s but pistols are used in more crimes! Ban pistols it fools nobody who isnt a tyrant or a would-be tyrant --- Aha! Now I have arrived on earth in my giant, half eaten pretzel it is time to execute my fiendishly sexy plan!" - The_Creep_2020 <cite>pure_temper posted [p:952489057] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>CommonGrackle posted... </cite> <quote>why can't an AR be used for protection or hunting?</quote> it can, but ppl like the TC just want cops to be the only ones with semi autos and full autos theyd go for pistols next since most gun crimes are committed with pistols, but since their intention is obviously anti 2nd Amendment they are trying to sneak around that fact to just bring it up later - we banned ar-15s but pistols are used in more crimes! Ban pistols it fools nobody who isnt a tyrant or a would-be tyrant </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VigorouslySwish 04/05/21 11:53:28 AM #4:	Uhhh cops around here carry handguns, not automatic rifles lmao --- i'm just some guy yellin' about apple sauce <cite>VigorouslySwish posted [p:952489122] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>Uhhh cops around here carry handguns, not automatic rifles lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VigorouslySwish 04/05/21 11:55:27 AM #5:	CommonGrackle posted... why can't an AR be used for protection or hunting? a bow and arrow can also be used for hunting a lot of things can doesnt mean it makes sense or is practical in modern times hope this helps! --- i'm just some guy yellin' about apple sauce <cite>VigorouslySwish posted [p:952489192] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>CommonGrackle posted... </cite> <quote>why can't an AR be used for protection or hunting?</quote> a bow and arrow can also be used for hunting a lot of things can doesnt mean it makes sense or is practical in modern times hope this helps! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 04/05/21 11:55:45 AM #6:	VigorouslySwish posted... Uhhh cops around here carry handguns, not automatic rifles lmao They have them in their squad cars genius. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:952489200] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>VigorouslySwish posted... </cite> <quote>Uhhh cops around here carry handguns, not automatic rifles lmao</quote>They have them in their squad cars genius. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VigorouslySwish 04/05/21 11:57:02 AM #7:	ScazarMeltex posted... They have them in their squad cars genius. ummm no most of them dont --- i'm just some guy yellin' about apple sauce <cite>VigorouslySwish posted [p:952489241] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>They have them in their squad cars genius.</quote> ummm no most of them dont </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 04/05/21 11:59:53 AM #8:	I'm against almost all gun control but I do want gun safety and training because there is a lot of accidental injuries and deaths that could be prevented if gun safety and training were the norm again, they used to have it in Boy Scouts,even in my day. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:952489325] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>I'm against almost all gun control but I do want gun safety and training because there is a lot of accidental injuries and deaths that could be prevented if gun safety and training were the norm again, they used to have it in Boy Scouts,even in my day.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Spiret 04/05/21 7:37:19 PM #10:	abolish the NFA and ATF. <cite>Dark_Spiret posted [p:952505269] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>abolish the NFA and ATF. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VigorouslySwish 04/05/21 8:49:39 PM #11:	AssultTank posted... Aside from the AR 15 being a very popular platform for small game hunting and sport shootong, you have a point there... Also note that as far as rifles go, the AR-15 is a low power rifle... Also, this. ummm guys the AR is the one used in literally almost every mass shooting, its clearly very effective at eliminating a lot of human beings rapidly --- i'm just some guy yellin' about apple sauce <cite>VigorouslySwish posted [p:952507808] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>AssultTank posted... </cite> <quote>Aside from the AR 15 being a very popular platform for small game hunting and sport shootong, you have a point there... Also note that as far as rifles go, the AR-15 is a low power rifle... Also, this.</quote> ummm guys the AR is the one used in literally almost every mass shooting, its clearly very effective at eliminating a lot of human beings rapidly </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/05/21 8:50:45 PM #12:	VigorouslySwish posted... A rifle VigorouslySwish posted... An AR-15 ? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:952507850] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>VigorouslySwish posted... </cite> <quote>A rifle</quote> VigorouslySwish posted... </cite> <quote>An AR-15</quote> ? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Sonic 04/05/21 9:16:13 PM #14:	I wouldn't be surprised if most handgun use ends up being in the commission of crime. --- It is more important to use your anonymity to upset other people than it is to do anything productive. <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:952508720] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't be surprised if most handgun use ends up being in the commission of crime. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Payzmaykr 04/05/21 9:17:46 PM #15:	Nice. I do the opposite. Not a fan of restrictions or bans. You dont take away a right from the group because some individuals misuse it. Guess what else has been used for various forms of heinous murder? The internet. People use it to coordinate drug deals, murders, robberies, and people have used it to actually convince other people to commit suicide. Should we ban the internet? You guys want guns restricted so that only hunters can have them because its essentially their jobs. Should we restrict the internet to only allow people to use it for work? The point is that you cant punish everyone because some abuse the right. <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:952508785] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>Nice. I do the opposite. Not a fan of restrictions or bans. You dont take away a right from the group because some individuals misuse it. Guess what else has been used for various forms of heinous murder? The internet. People use it to coordinate drug deals, murders, robberies, and people have used it to actually convince other people to commit suicide. Should we ban the internet? You guys want guns restricted so that only hunters can have them because its essentially their jobs. Should we restrict the internet to only allow people to use it for work? The point is that you cant punish everyone because some abuse the right. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/05/21 9:22:43 PM #16:	AssultTank posted... That depends on your definition of mass shooting. And that statement is about as obvious as saying the Glock 19 is used in almost every gang shooting. It's a popular rifle that is almost identical to every other .223 rifle out there. The only difference is that it has rails so you can put accessories like flashlights and grips on it. It's used because it's popular, and therefore common. It would be like saying that we should ban BMW 4 Series cars because they're most often involved in accidents. Some things are popular causes of problems because they're effective at causing the problem. A BMW 4 likely has the same (or better) safety standards as any other cars around the same time. A car with notorious safety issues should be banned but the BMW isn't it. Things like assault rifles are banned for exactly this reason. If spree shooters actually had access to legitimate militarized m16s death counts would be way worse. Like imagine the pulse nightclub shooting but instead now the guy has an AK-47. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:952508951] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>AssultTank posted... </cite> <quote>That depends on your definition of mass shooting. And that statement is about as obvious as saying the Glock 19 is used in almost every gang shooting. It's a popular rifle that is almost identical to every other .223 rifle out there. The only difference is that it has rails so you can put accessories like flashlights and grips on it. It's used because it's popular, and therefore common. It would be like saying that we should ban BMW 4 Series cars because they're most often involved in accidents.</quote> Some things are popular causes of problems because they're effective at causing the problem. A BMW 4 likely has the same (or better) safety standards as any other cars around the same time. A car with notorious safety issues should be banned but the BMW isn't it. Things like assault rifles are banned for exactly this reason. If spree shooters actually had access to legitimate militarized m16s death counts would be way worse. Like imagine the pulse nightclub shooting but instead now the guy has an AK-47. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 04/05/21 9:23:18 PM #17:	I vote no on those --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 <cite>pure_temper posted [p:952508969] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>I vote no on those </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkmith 04/05/21 9:37:11 PM #19:	AssultTank posted... Yeah, I agree with banning all out automatic weapons. Those are 100% military weapons that we don't need. Funny you should bring up Pulse since he didn't use an AR-15... Actually, looking at it, the AR-15 wasn't used in 9 of the 10 deadliest mass shootings in the US... The Glock 17 and 19 were used in more of the top 10 mass shootings than the AR-15... oddly the 1st most deadly one made good use of it though... --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:952509445] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>AssultTank posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, I agree with banning all out automatic weapons. Those are 100% military weapons that we don't need. Funny you should bring up Pulse since he didn't use an AR-15... Actually, looking at it, the AR-15 wasn't used in 9 of the 10 deadliest mass shootings in the US... The Glock 17 and 19 were used in more of the top 10 mass shootings than the AR-15...</quote>oddly the 1st most deadly one made good use of it though... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 04/05/21 9:38:15 PM #20:	AssultTank posted... Yeah, I agree with banning all out automatic weapons. Those are 100% military weapons that we don't need. Funny you should bring up Pulse since he didn't use an AR-15... Actually, looking at it, the AR-15 wasn't used in 9 of the 10 deadliest mass shootings in the US... The Glock 17 and 19 were used in more of the top 10 mass shootings than the AR-15... Like I said, they know this but don't care. It's about getting rid of the 2nd Amendment in its entirety. If they succeed w/ the AR-15, they'll say "oops handguns are the real culprit!!" and by that point there's basically nothing left. --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 <cite>pure_temper posted [p:952509497] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>AssultTank posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, I agree with banning all out automatic weapons. Those are 100% military weapons that we don't need. Funny you should bring up Pulse since he didn't use an AR-15... Actually, looking at it, the AR-15 wasn't used in 9 of the 10 deadliest mass shootings in the US... The Glock 17 and 19 were used in more of the top 10 mass shootings than the AR-15...</quote> Like I said, they know this but don't care. It's about getting rid of the 2nd Amendment in its entirety. If they succeed w/ the AR-15, they'll say "oops handguns are the real culprit!!" and by that point there's basically nothing left. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 04/05/21 9:39:48 PM #21:	pure_temper posted... Like I said, they know this but don't care. It's about getting rid of the 2nd Amendment in its entirety. If they succeed w/ the AR-15, they'll say "oops handguns are the real culprit!!" and by that point there's basically nothing left. classic slippery slope bullshit. clutch them pearls any harder and they'll crack. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:952509554] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>Like I said, they know this but don't care. It's about getting rid of the 2nd Amendment in its entirety. If they succeed w/ the AR-15, they'll say "oops handguns are the real culprit!!" and by that point there's basically nothing left.</quote>classic slippery slope bullshit. clutch them pearls any harder and they'll crack. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 04/05/21 9:42:04 PM #22:	monkmith posted... classic slippery slope bullshit. clutch them pearls any harder and they'll crack. nah I don't buy this BS. it's not a slippery slope. you can already see the sentiment bubbling up online on popular forums like reddit, twitter. it's the real goal. otherwise the narratives/debates wouldn't be about AR-15s, yet Ilhan Omar took advantage of a tragedy that had nothing to do with an AR-15 to weasel in the sentiment. etc. it's like you can't see the writing on the wall, or refuse to, and just label everything a slippery slope lol --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 <cite>pure_temper posted [p:952509627] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite> <quote>classic slippery slope bullshit. clutch them pearls any harder and they'll crack.</quote> nah I don't buy this BS. it's not a slippery slope. you can already see the sentiment bubbling up online on popular forums like reddit, twitter. it's the real goal. otherwise the narratives/debates wouldn't be about AR-15s, yet Ilhan Omar took advantage of a tragedy that had nothing to do with an AR-15 to weasel in the sentiment. etc. it's like you can't see the writing on the wall, or refuse to, and just label everything a slippery slope lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/05/21 9:42:47 PM #23:	AssultTank posted... Yeah, I agree with banning all out automatic weapons. Those are 100% military weapons that we don't need. Funny you should bring up Pulse since he didn't use an AR-15... Actually, looking at it, the AR-15 wasn't used in 9 of the 10 deadliest mass shootings in the US... The Glock 17 and 19 were used in more of the top 10 mass shootings than the AR-15... He didn't use an AR-15 but he had another semiautomatic rifle. As you mentioned in your post there's nothing really special about the AR-15 except that it has a lot of accessories built just for it. Plenty of other guns fire the same caliber at the same velocity and same rate. He also had a Glock 19 I think. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:952509655] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>AssultTank posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, I agree with banning all out automatic weapons. Those are 100% military weapons that we don't need. Funny you should bring up Pulse since he didn't use an AR-15... Actually, looking at it, the AR-15 wasn't used in 9 of the 10 deadliest mass shootings in the US... The Glock 17 and 19 were used in more of the top 10 mass shootings than the AR-15...</quote> He didn't use an AR-15 but he had another semiautomatic rifle. As you mentioned in your post there's nothing really special about the AR-15 except that it has a lot of accessories built just for it. Plenty of other guns fire the same caliber at the same velocity and same rate. He also had a Glock 19 I think. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 04/05/21 9:43:30 PM #24:	There is a bill out there that is trying to ban handguns as well, and yes it is backed by Biden who already gave horrible advice with double barrel shot gun, and firing a round off in the air. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:952509685] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>There is a bill out there that is trying to ban handguns as well, and yes it is backed by Biden who already gave horrible advice with double barrel shot gun, and firing a round off in the air. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 04/05/21 9:53:38 PM #26:	The goal isn't really to lower the total number of gun homicides. That's a problem but it's a different type of problem with different causes and it's not clear if banning guns will change the homicide rate of say, people getting shot and killed on the street for their wallet or killed in robberies or gang revenge or drug deals five wrong and such. The laser focus here is on neutering the effectiveness of a spree shooter / terrorist attacks. The number of people killed by flying planes into buildings is extremely low compared to the average homicide rate but the fact that it's possible at all warranted an extremely strong response in air travel security to make sure it couldn't happen again. The fact that a dude can walk into a crowded place and just kill 40 unarmed innocent people shouldn't be a thing that can happen. We can deal with the other homicides later. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:952510007] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>The goal isn't really to lower the total number of gun homicides. That's a problem but it's a different type of problem with different causes and it's not clear if banning guns will change the homicide rate of say, people getting shot and killed on the street for their wallet or killed in robberies or gang revenge or drug deals five wrong and such. The laser focus here is on neutering the effectiveness of a spree shooter / terrorist attacks. The number of people killed by flying planes into buildings is extremely low compared to the average homicide rate but the fact that it's possible at all warranted an extremely strong response in air travel security to make sure it couldn't happen again. The fact that a dude can walk into a crowded place and just kill 40 unarmed innocent people shouldn't be a thing that can happen. We can deal with the other homicides later. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 04/05/21 9:55:20 PM #27:	Wrong, wrong, wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_truck_attack You don't need guns for a large body count if someone wants to go on a spree. The only reason some are pushing gun control so hard is because they want the State to have a monopoly on violence. It's about control, just not "common sense gun control" --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:952510059] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>Wrong, wrong, wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_truck_attack You don't need guns for a large body count if someone wants to go on a spree. The only reason some are pushing gun control so hard is because they want the State to have a monopoly on violence. It's about control, just not "common sense gun control" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 04/05/21 9:56:48 PM #28:	AssultTank posted... Honestly though, he could have used any semi-automatic rifle to do it. Nothing special about the AR-15. Just remember though, even with the Vegas shooting, more people were killed by knives, blunt instruments, or bare hands and feet than by all rifles and shotguns combined in 2017. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8.xls Need to focus on pistols first... By laser focusing on the AR-15 you show that you know almost nothing about gun violence, and are basing your entire position on media attention. You need to conduct root cause analysis to find why the violence is occurring, but nobody wants to hear the answers. Poverty, drugs, and mental illness are the main causes of gun violence. Countries with less gun violence also tend to have better support structures for people who are mentally ill, impoverished, or addicted to drugs. It's not about gun control, it's about people control. Guns are a tool, people are the issue. Help the people and you reduce the violence. oh sure. but we're well past the point we'll see any gun laws put in place across the board. in a perfect world we'd have a strong registration system in place, with laws on the book that would harshly punish someone for transferring ownership of their guns without filling out the paperwork and going through a robust background check and waiting period. but no, we cant have that, because that's TAKING OUR GUNZZ!?!, and if the do that then how will we fight off the commies that take over the country! ~~the hypothetical ones that would also have control of the military making your home arsenal completely worthless...~~ republicans and the NRA have drawn a line in the sand, any law that in any way might slow down access to guns is wrong and should be blocked. be they felons buying guns from their buddy, or an angry boyfriend with a restraining order looking to 'teach that bitch a lesson', or the suicidal guy who blows his brains out in his car outside the gun show with the new pistol he bought without a waiting period... --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:952510120] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>AssultTank posted... </cite> <quote>Honestly though, he could have used any semi-automatic rifle to do it. Nothing special about the AR-15. Just remember though, even with the Vegas shooting, more people were killed by knives, blunt instruments, or bare hands and feet than by all rifles and shotguns combined in 2017. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8.xls Need to focus on pistols first... By laser focusing on the AR-15 you show that you know almost nothing about gun violence, and are basing your entire position on media attention. You need to conduct root cause analysis to find why the violence is occurring, but nobody wants to hear the answers. Poverty, drugs, and mental illness are the main causes of gun violence. Countries with less gun violence also tend to have better support structures for people who are mentally ill, impoverished, or addicted to drugs. It's not about gun control, it's about people control. Guns are a tool, people are the issue. Help the people and you reduce the violence.</quote>oh sure. but we're well past the point we'll see any gun laws put in place across the board. in a perfect world we'd have a strong registration system in place, with laws on the book that would harshly punish someone for transferring ownership of their guns without filling out the paperwork and going through a robust background check and waiting period. but no, we cant have that, because that's TAKING OUR GUNZZ!?!, and if the do that then how will we fight off the commies that take over the country! the hypothetical ones that would also have control of the military making your home arsenal completely worthless... republicans and the NRA have drawn a line in the sand, any law that in any way might slow down access to guns is wrong and should be blocked. be they felons buying guns from their buddy, or an angry boyfriend with a restraining order looking to 'teach that bitch a lesson', or the suicidal guy who blows his brains out in his car outside the gun show with the new pistol he bought without a waiting period... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 04/05/21 10:06:51 PM #30:	pure_temper posted... Wrong, wrong, wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_truck_attack You don't need guns for a large body count if someone wants to go on a spree. The only reason some are pushing gun control so hard is because they want the State to have a monopoly on violence. It's about control, just not "common sense gun control" We can take guns away from the state too. There's no need beat cops gotta be packing military surplus firearms and actual fucking tanks and shit. Most cops who get shot aren't shot by AR-15s anyway so it's not like this theoretical ban affects state vs citizen violence. People using non-weapons to hurt other people isn't really a discussion worth wasting time on. This is like the mentality of "I licked it, it's mine" shit going on here. Trucks have saved billions of lives. Semiautomatic rifles have only taken lives. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:952510468] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>Wrong, wrong, wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_truck_attack You don't need guns for a large body count if someone wants to go on a spree. The only reason some are pushing gun control so hard is because they want the State to have a monopoly on violence. It's about control, just not "common sense gun control"</quote> We can take guns away from the state too. There's no need beat cops gotta be packing military surplus firearms and actual fucking tanks and shit. Most cops who get shot aren't shot by AR-15s anyway so it's not like this theoretical ban affects state vs citizen violence.People using non-weapons to hurt other people isn't really a discussion worth wasting time on. This is like the mentality of "I licked it, it's mine" shit going on here. Trucks have saved billions of lives. Semiautomatic rifles have only taken lives.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimmyFraska 04/05/21 10:08:55 PM #31:	VigorouslySwish posted... ummm no most of them dont Do you not know how American policing works. They are armed to the teeth. Not necessarily every individual cop, but as a force in every major city they are ready to mobilize with fairly heavy weaponry <cite>JimmyFraska posted [p:952510538] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>VigorouslySwish posted... </cite> <quote>ummm no most of them dont</quote>Do you not know how American policing works. They are armed to the teeth. Not necessarily every individual cop, but as a force in every major city they are ready to mobilize with fairly heavy weaponry </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pure_temper 04/05/21 10:17:20 PM #33:	Tyranthraxus posted... 1. We can take guns away from the state too. There's no need beat cops gotta be packing military surplus firearms and actual fucking tanks and shit. Most cops who get shot aren't shot by AR-15s anyway so it's not like this theoretical ban affects state vs citizen violence. 2. People using non-weapons to hurt other people isn't really a discussion worth wasting time on. This is like the mentality of "I licked it, it's mine" shit going on here. Trucks have saved billions of lives. Semiautomatic rifles have only taken lives. you already know the State will not relinquish their power. if anything they are amassing more power. it's worth it if one is honest about what the true goal is imo --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:952510829] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite> <quote>1. We can take guns away from the state too. There's no need beat cops gotta be packing military surplus firearms and actual fucking tanks and shit. Most cops who get shot aren't shot by AR-15s anyway so it's not like this theoretical ban affects state vs citizen violence. 2. People using non-weapons to hurt other people isn't really a discussion worth wasting time on. This is like the mentality of "I licked it, it's mine" shit going on here. Trucks have saved billions of lives. Semiautomatic rifles have only taken lives.</quote> you already know the State will not relinquish their power. if anything they are amassing more power.it's worth it if one is honest about what the true goal is imo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/05/21 10:35:10 PM #34:	pure_temper posted... 1. you already know the State will not relinquish their power. if anything they are amassing more power. 2. it's worth it if one is honest about what the true goal is imo That is simply not true. States all around the world are limiting their powers. After excessive use of emergency powers gave rise to Hitler's tyranny, Germany has since greatly limited the circumstances in which emergency powers can be applied. The state is the bad guy when it is controlled by bad people. When good people are in the state, the state does good things. There's a 4 letter word floating around these parts that gives a summary of the status of this in America. There's nothing honest about saying trucks should be banned if you want to ban guns. That's like posting a link to suicide bombing attacks and saying "ban vests and shirts so people can't hide strapped explosives" --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:952511381] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>1. you already know the State will not relinquish their power. if anything they are amassing more power. 2. it's worth it if one is honest about what the true goal is imo</quote> That is simply not true. States all around the world are limiting their powers. After excessive use of emergency powers gave rise to Hitler's tyranny, Germany has since greatly limited the circumstances in which emergency powers can be applied. The state is the bad guy when it is controlled by bad people. When good people are in the state, the state does good things. There's a 4 letter word floating around these parts that gives a summary of the status of this in America. There's nothing honest about saying trucks should be banned if you want to ban guns. That's like posting a link to suicide bombing attacks and saying "ban vests and shirts so people can't hide strapped explosives"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/05/21 11:49:46 PM #35:	People need to be able to defend themselves from the alt-right. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:952513558] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>People need to be able to defend themselves from the alt-right. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/05/21 11:53:33 PM #36:	hockeybub89 posted... People need to be able to defend themselves from the alt-right. The best defense against the alt-right is to just have it so there is no Alt-right. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:952513661] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>People need to be able to defend themselves from the alt-right.</quote>The best defense against the alt-right is to just have it so there is no Alt-right. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 04/06/21 8:30:29 PM #37:	tbh on principle I always vote against any sort of new government control --- Thanks to Proofpyros for the sig images https://imgur.com/Nv4Pi1v https://imgur.com/N43HJYv <cite>FL81 posted [p:952545529] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>tbh on principle I always vote against any sort of new government control </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VigorouslySwish 04/07/21 3:53:06 PM #38:	New gun laws coming tomorrow!!!! :) --- i'm just some guy yellin' about apple sauce <cite>VigorouslySwish posted [p:952574327] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>New gun laws coming tomorrow!!!! :) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PoundGarden 04/07/21 3:58:41 PM #39:	VigorouslySwish posted... A shotgun or handgun for protection? Fine. A rifle for hunting? Sure. An AR-15? Its only purpose is to go on the offensive against other humans. Not ok. Genuinely curious, what are your feelings on these hunting guns? --- "You go. I'm just going to stare at the lake and think about how I almost just killed a baby." <cite>PoundGarden posted [p:952574514] in I vote yes... [t:79388700]...</cite> <quote>VigorouslySwish posted... </cite> <quote>A shotgun or handgun for protection? Fine. A rifle for hunting? Sure. An AR-15? Its only purpose is to go on the offensive against other humans. Not ok.</quote> Genuinely curious, what are your feelings on these hunting guns? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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