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CanuckCowboy
04/05/21 4:13:16 PM
#152:


And you double down.

Lame.

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Dark_SilverX
04/05/21 4:14:10 PM
#153:


RIP uber eats driver

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TommyG663513
04/05/21 4:14:28 PM
#154:


Holy crap 6 and 8 years respectively is absolutely a slap on the wrist. This should be like two decades at absolute minimum and that is only if they demonstrate remorse and that they are rehabilitates during their decades long sentence.

The amount of people ITT referring to this as just a mistake and they didn't intend to murder him make me want to vomit.

If you participate in a car jacking then you are very far away from just a little mistake and you are putting your victim in a lot of danger.

I can't believe this is a difficult concept for people to understand.

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FrisbeeDude
04/05/21 4:14:36 PM
#155:


Conflict posted...
Bro

You literally only care because the two kids were black

Who are you fooling?

This isn't a "mistake", stop calling it that shit. They literally drove the car while the dude was hanging out of it and made no attempt to save him.

No, you want me to only care because they're black. That's your delusional racism playing out, bro.

like I said to the other clown, show me evidence of this supposed hatred I have for white people or that I defend every black person on anything. Fuck off.

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CanuckCowboy
04/05/21 4:16:16 PM
#156:


TommyG663513 posted...
Holy crap 6 and 8 years respectively is absolutely a slap on the wrist. This should be like two decades at absolute minimum and that is only if they demonstrate remorse and that they are rehabilitates during their decades long sentence.

The amount of people ITT referring to this as just a mistake and they didn't intend to murder him make me want to vomit.

If you participate in a car jacking then you are very far away from just a little mistake and you are putting your victim in a lot of danger.

I can't believe this is a difficult concept for people to understand.

Nah.

Purposefully acquiring a taser, planning and committing a crime, and showing no remorse when that action resulted in another human beings death is definitely just the same as just regular dumb kid mistakes.


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FrisbeeDude
04/05/21 4:16:55 PM
#157:


TommyG663513 posted...
Holy crap 6 and 8 years respectively is absolutely a slap on the wrist. This should be like two decades at absolute minimum and that is only if they demonstrate remorse and that they are rehabilitates during their decades long sentence.

The amount of people ITT referring to this as just a mistake and they didn't intend to murder him make me want to vomit.

If you participate in a car jacking then you are very far away from just a little mistake and you are putting your victim in a lot of danger.

I can't believe this is a difficult concept for people to understand.

yall really think a 13 year, someone LITERALLY STARTING PUBERTY fully understood the potential consequences of their actions to the point where they should be sentenced longer than adult drunk drivers who kill people...FOH


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Runeboggle
04/05/21 4:17:16 PM
#158:


shockthemonkey posted...
So from a quick Googling, voluntary manslaughter for adults is usually maxed out at up to 10 years in jail and regularly doesnt come close to that

Idk that makes this not seem so bad
Given this, I think six and eight years may be fair. But I don't know if I could ever be the one to make that decision. I'm glad that his family got help with the gofundme, at least.

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CanuckCowboy
04/05/21 4:18:04 PM
#160:


FrisbeeDude posted...
yall really think a 13 year, someone LITERALLY STARTING PUBERTY fully understood the potential consequences of their actions to the point where they should be sentenced longer than adult drunk drivers who kill people...FOH

Still refusing to address the point about their obvious lack of remorse which has been made numerous times.

True shit posting here.

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FrisbeeDude
04/05/21 4:18:14 PM
#161:


CanuckCowboy posted...
Nah.

Purposefully acquiring a taser, planning and committing a crime, and showing no remorse when that action resulted in another human beings death is definitely just the same as just regular dumb kid mistakes.

Grown ass man crying because a couple kids wont spend their lives in prison lmao


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FrisbeeDude
04/05/21 4:19:45 PM
#164:


CanuckCowboy posted...
Still refusing to address the point about their obvious lack of remorse which has been made numerous times.

True shit posting here.

you're using the emotions, or lack thereof, of child to justify locking them away holy shit please never get into law

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CanuckCowboy
04/05/21 4:19:53 PM
#165:


FrisbeeDude posted...
Grown ass man crying because a couple kids wont spend their lives in prison lmao

Literal shit posting.

Glad to see that you found an opportunity in this to behave like an absolute jackass.

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FrisbeeDude
04/05/21 4:21:02 PM
#166:


Conflict posted...
It's not even about you being racist towards white people. It's that you're clearly biased because of who the perpetrators are, and also because there is an actual problem with -genuinely- innocent black youths getting locked up for actual mistakes and crimes they didn't commit.

You wouldn't be having this same energy if they were any other race. You'd actually be looking at this incident for what it really is. Which isn't a "mistake".

You calling this a "mistake" is way more annoying than you wanting them to be rehabilitated.

You dont have to project your bias onto me, bro. I'd have the exact same opinions if their race was white. Hell, I've BARLEY mentioned race in this topic...that's been yall


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pogo_rabid
04/05/21 4:21:30 PM
#167:


The money that was raised in the gofundme is totally going to the family of the man they murdered right? RIGHT?

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FrisbeeDude
04/05/21 4:21:53 PM
#168:


CanuckCowboy posted...
Literal shit posting.

Glad to see that you found an opportunity in this to behave like an absolute jackass.

the jackass is the one happy that 2 kids who made a terrible mistake, will get a legit 2nd chance...OK

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pogo_rabid
04/05/21 4:25:38 PM
#169:


FrisbeeDude posted...
the jackass is the one happy that 2 kids who made a terrible mistake, will get a legit 2nd chance...OK
What about justice for the victim?

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TommyG663513
04/05/21 4:25:51 PM
#170:


PizzaPatty posted...
This is the kind of justice I would love to see more of two young girls make one mistake no reason to punish them for life now they get a chance to actually live their lives instead of rot in prison. Let's not forget the society we live in that pushed these young girls to commit crime a racist and unjust society. I hope this starts new trend and we see less and less young African Americans incarcerated.

Lol this post isn't even trying to hide its blatant racism.

What reason whatsoever was their to bring up the race of the murderers?

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FrisbeeDude
04/05/21 4:26:07 PM
#171:


pogo_rabid posted...
What about justice for the victim?

I'm sorry, did the kids not receive a sentence?

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Runeboggle
04/05/21 4:26:37 PM
#172:


CanuckCowboy posted...
Still refusing to address the point about their obvious lack of remorse which has been made numerous times.

True shit posting here.
I don't think you can use their reactions after a potentially fatal accident as a basis of lack of remorse. I haven't heard anything about them before this, so it's possible that they've shown it, but I'm unsure.

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It really sucks. Like fuck, it's either send them away for a ton of time and condemn them to a life in and out of the prison system in perpetuity, or go the six to eight years route like they've done and get shit on for being lenient.

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CanuckCowboy
04/05/21 4:27:03 PM
#173:


FrisbeeDude posted...
the jackass is the one happy that 2 kids who made a terrible mistake, will get a legit 2nd chance...OK

The jackass continues to be disingenuous and post in bad faith and act like this is a simple mistake and not a pre planned crime that cause a human to die.

You literally don't even gaf about the victim as long as you can act superior huh?

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pogo_rabid
04/05/21 4:28:09 PM
#174:


FrisbeeDude posted...
I'm sorry, did the kids not receive a sentence?

They got a slap on the wrist considering the context.

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FrisbeeDude
04/05/21 4:28:54 PM
#175:


pogo_rabid posted...
They got a slap on the wrist considering the context.

So they are being punished, just not how you like

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thronedfire2
04/05/21 4:30:00 PM
#176:


CanuckCowboy posted...
The jackass continues to be disingenuous and post in bad faith and act like this is a simple mistake and not a pre planned crime that cause a human to die.

You literally don't even gaf about the victim as long as you can act superior huh?

what exactly does putting them in jail for longer do for the victim?

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FrisbeeDude
04/05/21 4:30:02 PM
#177:


CanuckCowboy posted...
The jackass continues to be disingenuous and post in bad faith and act like this is a simple mistake and not a pre planned crime that cause a human to die.

You literally don't even gaf about the victim as long as you can act superior huh?

You're crying because I'm not treating a 13 year like a criminal mastermind


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FrisbeeDude
04/05/21 4:30:48 PM
#178:


thronedfire2 posted...
what exactly does putting them in jail for longer do for the victim?

makes him feel good...ya know, seeing kids rot away and whatnot

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TommyG663513
04/05/21 4:35:28 PM
#180:


shockthemonkey posted...
Voluntary manslaughter is on average maximum 10 years for adults from what I read

Like Im sure with assault and carjacking longer sentences are possible but what youre calling for doesnt seem consistent with the law in general

@shockthemonkey

You keep making this weird argument ITT about precedent and assuming that everyone is in agreement with precedent.

News Flash. If someone finds the sentence in one criminal case troublesome then why do you work off of the assumption that they must agree with other instances of the legal system enacting "justice?"

I'd say our legal system is hot garbage for a long list of reasons.

Something like a sentence of 20 years seems fair in my mind. I could understand them both being released on parole by age 21 IF they demonstrate remorse and that they've been fully rehabilitated into society.

You keep demonstrating this tone that rehabilitation is a given for these two girls. That is a weird bias to have. Nothing about this case implies that these two girls have a strong sense of empathy.

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Fam_Fam
04/05/21 4:36:27 PM
#181:


i'm fully confident that they'll learn their lesson and be productive adults after learning that carjacking and killing someone was wrong, and then become successful, upstanding citizens
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FrisbeeDude
04/05/21 4:38:50 PM
#183:


Conflict posted...
You're also being extremely disingenuous here lmao. You know why there's an emotionally charged response to this incident. You probably didn't even watch the video.

It's a good thing the law isnt subject to fucking emotion(any more than it already is)especially for criminals of color

this is why we dont have families or close relations of victims on jury stands

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TommyG663513
04/05/21 4:39:37 PM
#184:


Fam_Fam posted...
i'm fully confident that they'll learn their lesson and be productive adults after learning that carjacking and killing someone was wrong, and then become successful, upstanding citizens

@shockthemonkey

This is basically shockthemonkeys mindset on this.

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TommyG663513
04/05/21 4:41:39 PM
#186:


FrisbeeDude posted...
It's a good thing the law isnt subject to fucking emotion(any more than it already is)especially for criminals of color

this is why we dont have families or close relations of victims on jury stands

"Criminals of color"

@FrisbeeDude

Can you explain what the race of the girls has to do with this?

Does the race of the guy who was killed have to do anything to do with this?

It just seems really obvious from the posters ITT who want leniency that they wouldn't be thinking the same thing if it was two poor white boys who did the same thing.

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TheOtherMike
04/05/21 4:47:38 PM
#187:


pogo_rabid posted...
They got a slap on the wrist considering the context.

No they didn't. Their punishment is in line with similar crimes.
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FrisbeeDude
04/05/21 4:50:31 PM
#188:


TommyG663513 posted...
"Criminals of color"

@FrisbeeDude

Can you explain what the race of the girls has to do with this?

Does the race of the guy who was killed have to do anything to do with this?

It just seems really obvious from the posters ITT who want leniency that they wouldn't be thinking the same thing if it was two poor white boys who did the same thing.

their race is irrelevant to the actual situation, which I why I havent mentioned. My comment, in relation to emotion in the criminal justice system and perpetrators of color, was an entirely separate thought


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TommyG663513
04/05/21 4:52:36 PM
#189:


TheOtherMike posted...
No they didn't. Their punishment is in line with similar crimes.

And similar crimes also receive the same slap on the wrist

Like do people like @TheOtherMike and @shockthemonkey realize how awful this logic is?

As an example....

White collar criminals basically never face real jail time so one getting five years is a harsh sentence. I'm not so sure that the exact same people would use the sentences facing white collar criminals as an example of a good justice system or that they want to see that precedent continue.

If you're going to argue that our system of justice is based solely or mostly off of precedent AND we should maintain that then you'd have to extend that logic to approve of the handling of white collar criminals.


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FrisbeeDude
04/05/21 4:52:41 PM
#190:


Conflict posted...
I'm not saying it should be subject to emotion

I'm saying it's pretty obvious why people are reacting emotionally to this and it's not because "people want to see children suffer". The kids didn't give 2 flying fucks about the victim. It wasn't a mistake.

The end result, their desire for these kids to remain imprisoned longer, is absolutely wanting to see children suffer.


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TommyG663513
04/05/21 4:53:41 PM
#191:


FrisbeeDude posted...
their race is irrelevant to the actual situation, which I why I havent mentioned. My comment, in relation to emotion in the criminal justice system and perpetrators of color, was an entirely separate thought

Dude, no one is buying that argument

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TommyG663513
04/05/21 4:54:34 PM
#192:


FrisbeeDude posted...
The end result, their desire for these kids to remain imprisoned longer, is absolutely wanting to see children suffer.

Yeah you're right. Children should never ever have to suffer even after they killed someone in the process of committing a crime.


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FrisbeeDude
04/05/21 4:57:06 PM
#193:


TommyG663513 posted...
Yeah you're right. Children should never ever have to suffer even after they killed someone in the process of committing a crime.

Were they not sentenced?

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FrisbeeDude
04/05/21 4:57:59 PM
#194:


TommyG663513 posted...
Dude, no one is buying that argument

That's fine, my fans have long had delusions about my opinions on race. Whenever called out to provide evidence, they never do...

Why is that

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TommyG663513
04/05/21 5:00:29 PM
#195:


FrisbeeDude posted...


Were they not sentenced?

So you're rooting for children to suffer?

What good do you think this will do society for two children to be put in jail?

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FrisbeeDude
04/05/21 5:01:24 PM
#196:


TommyG663513 posted...
So you're rooting for children to suffer?

What good do you think this will do society for two children to be put in jail?

I think the sentence is appropriate to the crime committed. You, in some twisted logic, think I want kids to go free.

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TommyG663513
04/05/21 5:03:19 PM
#198:


FrisbeeDude posted...
I think the sentence is appropriate to the crime committed. You, in some twisted logic, think I want kids to go free.

No I'm ridiculing your incredibly stupid assertion that people who feel this sentence was too lenient only want children to suffer

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Lil_Bit83
04/05/21 5:05:17 PM
#199:


You don't accidentally steal someone's car and ignore a person clinging to the door. This was no fucking accident, and they deserve a harsher punishment.

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FrisbeeDude
04/05/21 5:06:00 PM
#200:


TommyG663513 posted...
No I'm ridiculing your incredibly stupid assertion that people who feel this sentence was too lenient only want children to suffer

what else can one hope for when demanding a longer prison sentence for one who has been properly convicted?

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Lil_Bit83
04/05/21 5:06:16 PM
#201:


FrisbeeDude posted...
I don't believe in throwing away 2 teenage lives over a mistake

But you believe its alright that they threw away some innocent person's life?

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