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TommyG663513 04/05/21 5:10:00 PM #202: |
shockthemonkey posted...
Why do you always tag me in topics Im already posting in? Stop. That shit is annoying. I dont need a notification every time you need attention. Dude, just stop You're arguing for precedent like that is the only way the legal system ever works. By your same logic, no white collar criminal should face significant jail time, because they damn near never do. White collar criminals should only ever go to country club style prison, because that is what precedent is. You realize that precedent also fuels all sorts of inequality in our legal system? Precedent says Derek Chauvin gets off with no jail time. I highly doubt you agree with a high percentage of all legal rulings in this country so I'm kind of weirded out that this one time you're using precedent as a way to argue about what justice is. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TommyG663513 04/05/21 5:11:23 PM #203: |
FrisbeeDude posted...
what else can one hope for when demanding a longer prison sentence for one who has been properly convicted? I'm hoping that if these two criminals receive a sentence comparable to their crime that they'll consider the notion that actions have consequences. I kind of doubt that will be the case with their current sentence. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 04/05/21 5:12:20 PM #205: |
Lil_Bit83 posted...
But you believe its alright that they threw away some innocent person's life? show me where i said that --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lil_Bit83 04/05/21 5:12:43 PM #206: |
Duncanwii posted...
It is when you want to throw them in adult prison or, God forbid, have them executed.No one called for them being executed Einstein, you're the only person to say anything of the sort. --- 2DS FC tempest 1478 9807 1205 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 04/05/21 5:12:46 PM #207: |
TommyG663513 posted...
I'm hoping that if these two criminals receive a sentence comparable to their crime that they'll consider the notion that actions have consequences. I kind of doubt that will be the case with their current sentence. agree to disagree. --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TommyG663513 04/05/21 5:22:22 PM #208: |
shockthemonkey posted...
Im talking about maximum allowable sentences for adults and youre going off about white collar crime. Youre not trying to have a real conversation. Leave me alone. @shockthemonkey Do you understand what a maximum allowable sentence is? You understand this isn't something set in stone that can never ever be changed right? You are under this weird assumption that if there is a rule in our legal system then it can't be altered. We aren't even talking of our legal system in the entirety of this topic. Some of it is just what do you personally feel is fair. I brought up white collar crime, because you're trying to argue that sentences should be based off of precedent and don't seem to understand that people's arguments are critical of precedent as well. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TommyG663513 04/05/21 5:24:05 PM #210: |
FrisbeeDude posted...
agree to disagree. Can you explain your reasoning here? How do you figure that 6 and 8 years respectively is enough time? --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HagenEx 04/05/21 5:28:04 PM #213: |
13 and 15 year olds, car jacking, robbing and murdering people.
Jesus Christ. Whatever happened to smoking weed, getting laid and becoming Instathots? --- I need a new sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TommyG663513 04/05/21 5:37:19 PM #214: |
shockthemonkey posted...
The fuck is wrong with you? @shockthemonkey I'm genuinely perplexed how you can make posts like this and try to argue that I'm the one who doesn't want to have a conversation --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheOtherMike 04/05/21 5:52:00 PM #216: |
TommyG663513 posted...
And similar crimes also receive the same slap on the wrist You are welcome to that opinion, but it doesn't change the fact that, given the context, they objectively did not receive a slap on the wrist. TommyG663513 posted... Like do people like @TheOtherMike and @shockthemonkey realize how awful this logic is? 1. Don't @ me. 2. You're replying to my literal first post itt, so I'll thank you to not lump me in with other users who have been posting the entire time and making arguments I haven't. 3. The logic is, given the context, that the punishment is in line with the crime. If you have issue with sentencing being light in general that's fine, but that's a separate issue. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TommyG663513 04/05/21 5:52:16 PM #217: |
shockthemonkey posted...
Leave me the fuck alone Jesus Christ dude @shockthemonkey Like I get that you argue in bad faith pretty often, but this is pretty bad even by your own standards. How hard is it for you to participate in an actual discussion? --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 04/05/21 5:53:36 PM #218: |
TommyG663513 posted...
How hard is it for you to participate in an actual discussion?It's hard enough for him that he's probably going to block you soon. He blocked me months ago. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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muchdran 04/05/21 6:07:51 PM #220: |
They killed someone and thats it?
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eston 04/05/21 6:49:40 PM #222: |
HagenEx posted...
13 and 15 year olds, car jacking, robbing and murdering people.They can do that when they turn 21 --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MaddenDude-- 04/05/21 6:49:50 PM #223: |
Yes this is horrible, they need to be locked up for most of their life if not life.
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unclekoolaid73 04/05/21 6:55:52 PM #224: |
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_MorningStar 04/05/21 6:57:15 PM #225: |
Lol shock isn't used to anyone calling him on his passive aggressive bullshit
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Crazyman93 04/05/21 7:24:03 PM #226: |
thronedfire2 posted...
seems like some people ITT are mad about the one death but also want to throw away two more livesWhen I was their age I knew carjacking was fucking wrong. Don't feed us "they're just kids" bullshit. They're old enough to know what they did was wrong and this plea deal is a miscarriage of justice. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mattfrank 04/05/21 7:48:33 PM #227: |
They were too young to tell what's right or wrong.I hope they learn it and grow up.
I heard the driver used the N word??that's no-no. --- US 3ds FC:Bafflin 0533-4048-3637 Jpn 3ds FC:Mattfrank 3909-8121-4346 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RAAAWWWRRR 04/05/21 7:58:19 PM #228: |
shockthemonkey posted...
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MrKapowski 04/05/21 8:00:14 PM #229: |
mattfrank posted...
They were too young to tell what's right or wrong.I hope they learn it and grow up. If they've learned anything, they've learned they can kill someone and get off with minimal punishment. mattfrank posted...
I hope you're not implying that makes killing him ok, because that would extremely fucked up --- So! You want to hear a story, eh? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 04/05/21 8:06:16 PM #230: |
jesus christ smfh
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NinjaWarrior455 04/05/21 8:06:47 PM #231: |
6 and 8 years doesn't sound like minimal punishment to me
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FrisbeeDude 04/05/21 8:08:04 PM #233: |
NinjaWarrior455 posted...
6 and 8 years doesn't sound like minimal punishment to me You dont get it, the 13 year needs life in prison. That's the only "justice" --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 04/05/21 8:13:51 PM #234: |
Im not sure why people are angry.
the girls got a light, but well within the expected range of the case sentence. You could argue they didnt deserve it because of their callousness, but like that kind of callousness is too out of the ordinary for a teenager. Personally, you could of thrown the book at them and they probably would of deserved it, but its nice to see The prosecutor use a delicate (not sure thats the word I need but itll work for now) touch thats typically Reserved for rich/ white kids. --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 04/05/21 8:19:20 PM #235: |
gamepimp12 posted...
Im not sure why people are angry. nope, you can't have this opinion unless you dont believe in justice for the uber driver or some shit --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MildEnergy 04/05/21 8:24:47 PM #236: |
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Gobstoppers12 04/05/21 8:26:16 PM #237: |
FrisbeeDude posted...
the uber driver or some shitHis name was Mohammad Anwar. You could at least pretend to care. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MildEnergy 04/05/21 8:27:35 PM #238: |
Gobstoppers12 posted...
His name was Mohammad Anwar. You could at least pretend to care.Shhhhh he doesn't count as human to frisbeedude --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MildEnergy 04/05/21 8:29:17 PM #239: |
Like tc is so awful you would think he is just a parody to get people to dislike black activism
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pure_temper 04/05/21 8:30:58 PM #240: |
TC is fundamentally correct that rehabilitation should be the first choice. They are 13 & 15 for Christ's sake.
That being said I still won't side with TC beyond advocating for rehab, because I suspect he's dishonest and made this topic just to troll/agitate along racial lines. Like he always does. --- Aha! Now I have arrived on earth in my giant, half eaten pretzel it is time to execute my fiendishly sexy plan!" - The_Creep_2020 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayer_22 04/05/21 8:32:59 PM #241: |
Damn, imagine how many teenagers would be out murdering if they knew they could get light sentences like this?
Besides the young ladies here, of course, they already achieved that. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrKapowski 04/05/21 8:37:57 PM #242: |
Meanwhile the Bever brothers got life with no parole and life with a chance at parole
The two girls that lured their friend into the woods to sacrifice to Slenderman got: Weier was sentenced to 25 years to life, an indeterminate sentence involving at least three years locked confinement and involuntary treatment in a state psychiatric institute, followed by communal supervision until age 37. Geyser was sentenced to the maximum, 40 years to life, an indeterminate sentence involving at least three years locked confinement, in addition to involuntary treatment in a state psychiatric institute until complete resolution of symptoms or until age 53, whichever may happen first; followed by continued communal supervision, periodic reevaluations and/or reinstitution and further treatment, as needed, as required by the sentence imposed. While Geyser will periodically have the opportunity to petition for her release from a mental health facility in the future, she will remain under institutional care for the duration of the sentence. During her trial, Geyser had been committed to the Winnebago Mental Health Institute and was the youngest patient there. --- So! You want to hear a story, eh? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 04/05/21 8:39:11 PM #243: |
"fatal accident" is a weird way to spin murder.
Anyone willing to suggest that TC would be so happy had the murderers been white boys? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayer_22 04/05/21 8:40:20 PM #244: |
MrKapowski posted...
Meanwhile the Bever brothers got life with no parole and life with a chance at parole https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Cassie_Jo_Stoddart Both got life sentences. Only 17 years old each. One of them seems absolutely regretful of their actions, if the documentary featuring him is anything to go by. These girls returned for their phone after murdering a man. Edit: scum that takes an innocent life willingly and show no remorse in doing so deserve life. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DirkDiggles 04/05/21 8:41:31 PM #245: |
MrKapowski posted...
Meanwhile the Bever brothers got life with no parole and life with a chance at parole Well, that was premeditated. This was just manslaughter. --- Intel 486, Integrated videocard, 16MB RAM, 64MB HD, 3 1/4 inch floppy ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrKapowski 04/05/21 8:41:59 PM #246: |
darkjedilink posted...
"fatal accident" is a weird way to spin murder. https://youtu.be/puK5CwThaq4 --- So! You want to hear a story, eh? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 04/05/21 8:42:19 PM #247: |
MrKapowski posted...
Meanwhile the Bever brothers got life with no parole and life with a chance at parole I mean youre comparing a murder case, an attempted murder case to a manslaughter case. --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Dream87 04/05/21 8:42:41 PM #248: |
Glad our justice system is working out here and not fulfilling the bloodlust of those who want to see children be murdered by the state.
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MildEnergy 04/05/21 8:42:43 PM #249: |
It was manslaughter but its the equivalent of taking a piss on the dudes corpse afterwards imo
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MrKapowski 04/05/21 8:42:52 PM #250: |
DirkDiggles posted...
Well, that was premeditated. This was just manslaughter. How is getting ahold of a taser for the purpose of carjacking someone not premeditated? --- So! You want to hear a story, eh? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pure_temper 04/05/21 8:43:49 PM #251: |
Blue_Dream87 posted...
Glad our justice system is working out here and not fulfilling the bloodlust of those who want to see children be murdered by the state. we know why certain CEmen have strong opinions on that vs rehab tbh --- Aha! Now I have arrived on earth in my giant, half eaten pretzel it is time to execute my fiendishly sexy plan!" - The_Creep_2020 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamepimp12 04/05/21 8:47:43 PM #252: |
MrKapowski posted...
How is getting ahold of a taser for the purpose of carjacking someone not premeditated? uh cause they didnt go out thinking to kill the man ? --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em ... Copied to Clipboard!
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