Board 8 > Anti mask people suck.

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I wear a mask for 40 hours a week while I work. I'd much rather not wear one at all, but, you know it's the right thing to do. Also it's mandated and all.

Fuck the toddlers that can't wear one for 3 minutes while they pollute their body with cigarettes. Disgusting snowflakes.

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to their credit, it is hard to wear a mask and smoke at the same time.

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People wear them like chin-bibs or don't bother. Like...you're not eating or drinking anything. Thank you...

Not an anti mask thing, but I saw this working as a greeter a few weeks ago. Line was forming. We were at capacity. Couple dudebros walked up and I gave them the spiel. "BULLSHIT! I AIN'T WAITING IN LINE FOR THIS SHIT!"

At LEGO....a store for kids.

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I don't give a fuck about people that at least pretend to care. Like okay chinstrap is dumb but if it's under your nose...that's fine with me. It is what it is.

But the disdain and toxicity of just ignoring a rule is petty and quite frankly upsetting. Do whatever you want with your free time. 3 minutes or less? Different case.


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Was out in a large public place recently.

Here it really is a small maybe 10 percent of the population that intentionally does not wear a mask and walks up close to others.

There is no choice involved at all. They might think covid is a hoax but they refuse to respect the choice of those around them.

no wait I'm actually kind of confused now. are you mad at people who aren't wearing their masks on 3 minute smoke breaks?

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UltimaterializerX posted...

https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/masks-dont-work-covid-a-review-of-science-relevant-to-covide-19-social-policy

It's funny how the doctors and academics who all say masks are pointless are never given air time on mainstream news. I wonder why that is?

You do realize that's a self-labeled tabloid, right

You might want a better source

EDIT: Also, if you google the author, there are several articles about that specific piece stating he purposely cherry picked lines from sources and misrepresented them to fit what he wanted, and he has quite a history of fraud. I'm not completely dismissing your argument, I just think you probably want a better source.

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UltimaterializerX posted...

https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/masks-dont-work-covid-a-review-of-science-relevant-to-covide-19-social-policy

It's funny how the doctors and academics who all say masks are pointless are never given air time on mainstream news. I wonder why that is?

Probably because they're full of shit who cherry pick tiny parts from the publications they're citing while the main points fly above their heads.

Or at least that's the case in that trash link. I regret giving that schlock a click, and you should too.

EDIT: Beaten to the punch!

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Yeah I read some of the references he included for his paper and he's straight up misrepresenting what they said. The guy is pretty questionable. I think he has 'physicist's disease'

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Careful, Ulti. Users have been banned multiple times without hesitation for even lightly suggesting that mask mandates are worth scrutinizing.

'People spreading bad health advice aren't given as much airtime as people spreading good health advice. CONSIPRACY?! /s'

But yes, anti maskers are dumb selfish children.

UltimaterializerX posted...

https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/masks-dont-work-covid-a-review-of-science-relevant-to-covide-19-social-policy

It's funny how the doctors and academics who all say masks are pointless are never given air time on mainstream news. I wonder why that is?

Because theyre stupid?

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no it has to be a conspiracy

if everyone criticizes someone its because that person is too good and dangerous to the people in charge, never because the person actually sucks
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why won't the MAINSTREAM MEDIA air flat earthers????

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I feel people are too harsh on the folks that at least have their mask on, even if its a bit under the nose. It's an effort, its meeting y'all halfway, and usually if you say something they'll pull it up and not put up a big fuss.

The ones that ought to be getting all the vitriol are the ones that refuse outright and claim its their rights to not have to wear a "face diaper". Fuck those people.

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Accel_R8 posted...

It's an effort

it isn't an effort to wear a mask at all

Accel_R8 posted...

its meeting y'all halfway

it's meeting us none of the way since it doesn't really help

Accel_R8 posted...

usually if you say something they'll pull it up and not put up a big fuss.

in my experience, this is true exclusively for people between the ages of 6 and 10

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UltimaterializerX posted...

The sources are all at the bottom. You can read all of the studies in full yourself,

I know. That's the problem. He's incredibly misleading about what those sources actually say. Most of them do not actually find what he says they found, if you'd like to read them yourself.

Hence why I said if you have a better source on "Masks don't work," you probably want to post that instead.

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Wearing a mask is super fucking easy and people who complain about it are pieces of shit.

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GuessMyUserName posted...

why won't the MAINSTREAM MEDIA air flat earthers????

Hey now mainstream media opened the door for this with the moon landing conspiracy.

It was proof positive that people were willing to buy anything if you present it as legitimate.

Ulti, you really need to read beyond the headline and a skim at some point.

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I say one thing since the mask mandates came into effect I haven't caught a regular cold or flu, and I'm the type of person who gets it twice a year. If anything there won't be negative stigma of wear a mask in public once the mandates end. People are gross in public.

I have mild asthma, and wearing a mask during high humid weather is unbearable. I couldn't hold my current daytime job because of this. I had to transfer to somewhere where I don't really like during the summer. Maybe I could if my healthcare wasn't dogshit and could get me the medication I need for it.

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people are still taking ulti aka mr. "i don't read the articles i post" seriously?

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Published anti masks studies are typically like "There is a 95% chance that the chance of getting affected while wearing a mask is halved or increased by 25% or somewhere in between" which is basically useless information and probably the reason they tend to get rejected by the most journals. They also tend to completely ignore the purpose of preventing yourself from affecting others in case you're affected yourself and only look at how great they are at protecting you. With a conclusion that says we can't conclude anything they're often referred to as proof that masks make no difference while they actually just prove nothing >_>

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Lord Ephraim posted...

I say one thing since the mask mandates came into effect I haven't caught a regular cold or flu, and I'm the type of person who gets it twice a year. If anything there won't be negative stigma of wear a mask in public once the mandates end. People are gross in public.

I would imagine colds/flus across the board are down due to the masks and/or social distancing.

Unfortunately, there will 100% be a stigma about wearing a mask because "why are you wearing that shit there ain't no pandemic anymore. Get that shit off your face." I imagine if you're in a major urban area you'd be alright, especially if you're on public transit but I'm just waiting for the story about someone being beaten for wanting to wear a mask in a football stadium/at a concert/other large public event once this is "over".


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On one hand, I hate wearing a mask. I tolerate it in stores, but it's absolutely obnoxious to deal with in the gym and it feels silly for me to have "in public" when I'm running in the park or whatever. I got really pissed off at the dude at the entrance to the gym the other day when I'm carrying in an armload of stuff and he stops me because my mask isn't on yet, and I tell him I'll put it on in the locker room. It's right here, see? And I wiggle it in my fingertips. But no, I have to dump everything on the ground and put it on right that second because the 20 second walk to the locker room -- where I'm going to just take it off anyway -- is so damn important. Like, I'm going to be there for an hour, with the mask on, and you're harassing me over literally under 1% of that time frame.

On the other, I'm not anti-mask. I understand and respect what they're for, and think anyone who thinks that not wearing one is somehow a protection of one's individual liberties or whatever is a total fucknut. I also know that only select specific states are currently dealing with flare-ups and is anyone at all shocked that leading the charge is Michigan, the state where people stormed the capital building to angrily accost security with their "protest" and where a group of dudes formed a plot to kidnap the governor over her mask mandates?

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I mean people will always carry communicable diseases that can potentially kill someone else. If masks are no big deal and could save a life, shouldn't we wear them forever?

azuarc posted...

Like, I'm going to be there for an hour, with the mask on, and you're harassing me over literally under 1% of that time frame

This is actually you being weird and upset about having to wear a mask an extra 1% of the time.

For them it is literally their job to tell you to wear the damn mask.

ChainLTTP posted...

I mean people will always carry communicable diseases that can potentially kill someone else. If masks are no big deal and could save a life, shouldn't we wear them forever?

I mean we should absolutely be in the habit of wearing a mask if you might be sick and are out in public.

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ChainLTTP posted...

I mean people will always carry communicable diseases that can potentially kill someone else. If masks are no big deal and could save a life, shouldn't we wear them forever?

Sure. Not sure if you think you're proving a point here, but if you are, it's not the one you're trying to.

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Maniac64 posted...

I mean we should absolutely be in the habit of wearing a mask if you might be sick and are out in public.

Pretty much this.

As a person who takes public transport frequently, I'll for sure be still wearing a mask even after the pandemic is over if I feel the slightest off, or during heavier flu seasons.

Last time I was completely sick to the point of being bed-ridden was 14 months ago. The start of the pandemic here in the states. Outside of a minor lockdown, and the aid of wearing mask. Not a whole lot has changed in my routine and I haven't been sick at all, not even a common cold. It's not a coincidence.

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i always love it when people pull out the ol' "WELL WE DON'T DO THIS WITH OTHER DISEASES DO WE?" argument when arguing against covid measures.

perhaps the logical conclusion is that we should start taking other diseases more fucking seriously and not "LET'S JUST NOT CARE ABOUT ANYTHING LOL."

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UltimaterializerX posted...

Isnt the entire spike in Detroit? Pretty sure Detroit doesnt have the rednecks in it.

Come on man, Eminem and Kid Rock literally made their careers over this. Also it's known for its working class/automotive industry history.

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Sorozone posted...

Pretty much this.

As a person who takes public transport frequently, I'll for sure be still wearing a mask even after the pandemic is over if I feel the slightest off, or during heavier flu seasons.

Last time I was completely sick to the point of being bed-ridden was 14 months ago. The start of the pandemic here in the states. Outside of a minor lockdown, and the aid of wearing mask. Not a whole lot has changed in my routine and I haven't been sick at all, not even a common cold. It's not a coincidence.

But what about asymptomatic spread? I'm just trying to think of the best way to move forward here. As long as it's not an unreasonable burden to do so, shouldn't we do everything we can to prevent harmful things from happening to others? That would mean we always should wear masks in public forever, sick or not.

Mr Lasastryke posted...

i always love it when people pull out the ol' "WELL WE DON'T DO THIS WITH OTHER DISEASES DO WE?" argument when arguing against covid measures.

The argument "it had only been slightly more deadly than this and that and
that" is the worst because it ignores the fact that we closed down the world to handle this one.

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I think what's really crazy is some parts of the US literally just don't enforce it at all.

My dad lives out in Indiana and most places will say "You can take off the mask." when you enter. My girlfriend moved from Florida last year and she was telling me about how surprised she was that everyone was wearing a mask in Cincinnati.

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azuarc posted...

I got really pissed off at the dude at the entrance to the gym the other day when I'm carrying in an armload of stuff and he stops me because my mask isn't on yet, and I tell him I'll put it on in the locker room. It's right here, see? And I wiggle it in my fingertips. But no, I have to dump everything on the ground and put it on right that second because the 20 second walk to the locker room -- where I'm going to just take it off anyway -- is so damn important.

If you already had it in your hand, why wouldnt you just put it on before you went in?

Also yeah, Im in Florida and people frequently say you can take off your mask when I go into places.

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Even in places with mask "mandates" it's not legally enforced. It's for the most part all voluntary across the US. Anti-maskers hate it.

They are part of the classic subset of Americans who absolutely hate freedom of choice and want nothing more than the government to force everyone to act how they want. Anti-masking is the latest way they can express their totalitarianism in a relatively acceptable way, but they'll take anything they can get. That's why you'll see people like Ulti jump onto every radical trend they can find.

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azuarc posted...

Like, I'm going to be there for an hour, with the mask on, and you're harassing me over literally under 1% of that time frame.

If I'm at a urinal next to you and spend 99 seconds pissing in the urinal and 1 second pissing on your leg, would you get mad? how about 0.5 seconds?

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If you're pissing for a minute forty straight, I think I'd just be impressed.

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foolm0r0n posted...

If I'm at a urinal next to you and spend 99 seconds pissing in the urinal and 1 second pissing on your leg, would you get mad? how about 0.5 seconds?

I'd be more worried about having to piss for 100 seconds
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Alright I get it, check your functioning-urinary-tract privilege

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I got 99 seconds to piss but your leg is one of them


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The more appropriate analogy would be 99 seconds into the urinal and 1 second hitting the edge of the urinal. You're implying by extension that I would have spent my trip to the locker running up to people and coughing in their face. I wouldn't. I'd be conscientious about it. And there was literally nobody between me and the locker room. Whatever benchmark you want to use for social distancing, I had it covered.

As for why I didn't put it on before walking on, I don't know. But I didn't. Most places, I put it on while walking up, but I couldn't do that because my hands were full.

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foolm0r0n posted...

Even in places with mask "mandates" it's not legally enforced. It's for the most part all voluntary across the US. Anti-maskers hate it.

They are part of the classic subset of Americans who absolutely hate freedom of choice and want nothing more than the government to force everyone to act how they want. Anti-masking is the latest way they can express their totalitarianism in a relatively acceptable way, but they'll take anything they can get. That's why you'll see people like Ulti jump onto every radical trend they can find.

I totally agree. There is nothing more totalitarian than giving people the freedom to make decisions for themselves.