Current Events > Green party leading in the polls in Germany

(+) Yeah! (+)

Maybe there's hope for this country after all

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Unfamiliar with how Germany is set up.

Is it the British/Canadian style parliament where the party with the most seats forms a government and that party leader becomes the Prime Minister/Chancellor/what have you?

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Doom_Art posted...

Unfamiliar with how Germany is set up.

Is it the British/Canadian style parliament where the party with the most seats forms a government and that party leader becomes the Prime Minister/Chancellor/what have you?

More or less, but often parties that don't reach 50% individually join up together so that they reach 50% in total

Minority governments aren't really a thing here, I don't think
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Is there another party the Greens would be able to join together with?

And how do the Greens lean over there?

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Doom_Art posted...

Is there another party the Greens would be able to join together with?

And how do the Greens lean over there?

The CDU (the one on the left in the diagram) most probably

They lean left for the most part. Not as pro-EU as I'd have liked, but you can't have everything
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there are six legitimate parties in Germany?

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berlyman101 posted...

there are six legitimate parties in Germany?

I hesitate to refer to the AfD as 'legitimate', but Germany has multiple viable parties, correct
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our US history books are going to be interesting. "for 200-400 years there were only two parties and occasionally people bitched and fussed for new parties but all that happened was the weird 2000 election vote dilution."

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berlyman101 posted...

our US history books are going to be interesting. "for 200-400 years there were only two parties and occasionally people bitched and fussed for new parties but all that happened was the weird 2000 election vote dilution."

"One of the Founding Fathers warned against political parties. So naturally, the US ended up forming political parties a short while later"
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what happened to cause the CDU to collapse in popularity, fatigue from the German public for governing for what 16 years now?

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Los geht's Jungs

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coolboy11 posted...

what happened to cause the CDU to collapse in popularity, fatigue from the German public for governing for what 16 years now?

A mixture of fatigue, scandal after scandal in recent weeks, and their nominee for chancellor widely being seen as the less competent of the two potential nominees (as well as the process itself being long and unnecessarily drawn-out)
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What kinda parties are FDP and Linke?

berlyman101 posted...

there are six legitimate parties in Germany?

This is Swedens Parliament, Riksdagen, after the 2018 election.



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BalanceLost posted...

What kinda parties are FDP and Linke?

FDP: free-market liberals/libertarians
Linke: solidly left-wing, with socialist and communist blocs
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Green is the worst color

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teep_ posted...

FDP: free-market liberals/libertarians
Linke: solidly left-wing, with socialist and communist blocs

over 10 percent of the population basically votes for zero taxes. sounds correct

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berlyman101 posted...

teep_ posted...

FDP: free-market liberals/libertarians
Linke: solidly left-wing, with socialist and communist blocs

over 10 percent of the population basically votes for zero taxes. sounds correct

They're somewhat decent on social issues and also support stuff like digitalisation (which is severely lacking here).

If it weren't for their economic policies I could see myself giving them more consideration
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teep_ posted...

FDP: free-market liberals/libertarians
Linke: solidly left-wing, with socialist and communist blocs

Thanks

What are the German Socialdemocrats like? I know they are in partnership with Merkel and it has cost them.

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teep_ posted...

who tf messed up the cdu and afd colors
are they based on the eu-level parties or sth?

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Doom_Art posted...

Unfamiliar with how Germany is set up.

Is it the British/Canadian style parliament where the party with the most seats forms a government and that party leader becomes the Prime Minister/Chancellor/what have you?

teep_ posted...

More or less, but often parties that don't reach 50% individually join up together so that they reach 50% in total

Minority governments aren't really a thing here, I don't think

note that getting the "most" seats doesn't actually matter. a coalition is formed between whatever parties with a combined >50% of the seats agree to form a coalition, and the chancellor is usually the candidate from the party who got the most seats out of the ones in the coalition. for example in 1969, cdu/csu got more seats than either of the other 2 parties, but the other 2 (who, combined, had more seats than the cdu/csu) agreed to form a coalition.

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teep_ posted...

They're somewhat decent on social issues

somewhat decent seems like an extreme understatement to me
on what social issue do you disagree with the fdp?

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MSCMC posted...

who tf messed up the cdu and afd colors
are they based on the eu-level parties or sth?

Yes, it's the colors of the EU-level parties. The conservative European People's Party with CDU/CSU is light blue. The far-right Identity and Democracy Party with the AgD is dark blue.

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Math Murderer posted...

Yes, it's the colors of the EU-level parties. The conservative European People's Party with CDU/CSU is light blue. The far-right Identity and Democracy Party with the AgD is dark blue.

lame!

my next question is why it says L1NKE

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MSCMC posted...

teep_ posted...

They're somewhat decent on social issues

somewhat decent seems like an extreme understatement to me
on what social issue do you disagree with the fdp?

OK, so I took another look at their positions

I don't disagree with most of them, but I do disagree with how they seem to think small government will solve all their problems. There are cases where it definitely would (same-sex marriage is an example) but there are situations that, imo, require more government intervention, not less (eg reducing benefits with tax credits)

Also, practically speaking, every time I read about them in the news they're taking stances that are pro-corporation, which definitely doesn't endear them to me >_>

BalanceLost posted...

teep_ posted...

FDP: free-market liberals/libertarians
Linke: solidly left-wing, with socialist and communist blocs

Thanks

What are the German Socialdemocrats like? I know they are in partnership with Merkel and it has cost them.

They're having trouble leaving the CDU's (Merkel's party) shadow, as I see it
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MSCMC posted...

lame!

my next question is why it says L1NKE

Even lamer. It says "LINKE" They're just using a horrible font.

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what's the genuine feeling on Merkel's government response to the Pandemic?

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Goddamn I can't even imagine being in a country so cool. The libs in the US literally rehabilitated george bush before they forgave ralph nader, the greens are probably never going to make any significant splash, and we will just continue surging rightward until we collapse. Plz accept refugees from the US green party queen

I'm sure they'll be happy to take you if you promise to learn German and don't take guns into the country.

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coolboy11 posted...

what's the genuine feeling on Merkel's government response to the Pandemic?

Good at the beginning, but steadily getting worse, especially once vaccines started getting rolled out

Mainly cause we're so behind compared to countries we'd otherwise laugh at for their handling of the pandemic
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teep_ posted...

OK, so I took another look at their positions

I don't disagree with most of them, but I do disagree with how they seem to think small government will solve all their problems. There are cases where it definitely would (same-sex marriage is an example) but there are situations that, imo, require more government intervention, not less (eg reducing benefits with tax credits)

Also, practically speaking, every time I read about them in the news they're taking stances that are pro-corporation, which definitely doesn't endear them to me >_>

yeah it's like
all of their views related to money are too extreme for me, but i agree with almost 100% of their other views
but given how often they've entered coalitions with the conservative pieces of shit they seem to care more about hurr durr economy than y'know, civil rights n shit

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