Current Events > Bought all 3 Seasons of Deadliest Warrior on Prime

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I finished season 1, and heres what I dont understand.

The Ninjas Ninjato went through Spartans Armor but a Katana cant go through Vikings Chainmail?

does that make the Ninjato better than the Katana? They never explain that.

Bump this is kinda important to me, I grew up thinking Katanas were better than Ninjatos but were we all fooled by the movies?

That doesn't make sense. Ninjutsu is a concept, not a weapon
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I honestly don't think you can put too much stock into that show.

Also what does ninjutsu mean in this context? I wasn't aware it was a specific weapon.

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You... probably won't care for the final episode >_>

It might be what got the show cancelled.

The rest of the show is great though. At one point, they inrroduce an "x factor" which takes into account intangible and character specific attributes, such as Ivan the Terrible being a fucking lunatic and Sun Tzu's military brilliance.

I learned some neat stuff about weapons too. There is an episode with Shaka Zulu, and because I saw it, I understood a reference in something else that I otherwise would not have. Epic Rap Battles did Julius Caesar vs. Shaka Zulu. Shaka' opening line is "Iwisa, meet Caesah. He's a commandah!" and I was like "oh shit I know what an Iwisa is thanks to Deadliest Warrior."
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

That doesn't make sense. Ninjutsu is a concept, not a weapon

Ninjato sorry

@CanuckCowboy

CanuckCowboy posted...

I honestly don't think you can put too much stock into that show.

Also what does ninjutsu mean in this context? I wasn't aware it was a specific weapon.

Probably meant Ninja-to, a Japanese short to medium length blade, meant to counter the katana (shorter blade makes it quicker on the draw)

Ninja'd (lmao) by edit
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Shmupguy posted...

Ninjato sorry

CanuckCowboy

I was under the impression that the ninjato didn't actually exist

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IRA vs Taliban goat episode

Trumpo posted...

IRA vs Taliban goat episode

Believe that was the closest modern matchup of season 1.

I don't believe that the Ninja-To has ever even been shown to exist.

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ScazarMeltex posted...

I don't believe that the Ninja-To has ever even been shown to exist.

It was on the show

@UnholyMudcrab

Shmupguy posted...

It was on the show

looked it up on wikipedia and what do ya know... it does say allegedly and that there isn't evidence of it existing before the 20th century (and that replicas are said to be based on the wakizashi) so it may not have existed or existed with that name in the time period it is said to be from. I had not heard anything about this before it was mentioned here.

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If the show still going today I think they would now do an episode on ISIS vs Mexican Cartels

Zikten posted...

If the show still going today I think they would now do an episode on ISIS vs Mexican Cartels

They had the Medellin cartel in one episode. I believe against Somali Pirates.

Also Saddam vs. Pol Pot

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Machete posted...

looked it up on wikipedia and what do ya know... it does say allegedly and that there isn't evidence of it existing before the 20th century (and that replicas are said to be based on the wakizashi) so it may not have existed or existed with that name in the time period it is said to be from. I had not heard anything about this before it was mentioned here.

Ok so were those wakizashis in the movie The Last Samurai?

the ones the ninjas used because they damn looked like ninjatos.

Bump

Shmupguy posted...

Ok so were those wakizashis in the movie The Last Samurai?

the ones the ninjas used because they damn looked like ninjatos.

Samurai typically used katanas. Wakizashis are shorter. There is also a type of katana-like weapon that has a handle that's like twice the normal length even though the blade is about the same. I can't remember what it's called though. They made it in one episode of Forged in Fire.

Edit: misread. Could have been. I haven't seen the last samurai in years
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I maintain that a ninjato is just a shitty wakizashi. Literally the blade before achieving proper curvature, something that was banged out quickly, or stolen midway.

As for the armor penetration: I don't know enough about that, but it sounds kinda bullshit. I've read chainmail is better at deflection, but Viking mail was just iron.

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Spartan armor was bronze or a leather/linen mix, that is weaker than steel.

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Mafia vs Jesse James gang was my fav episode

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That show is complete bs

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Smackems posted...

That show is complete bs

nooooo the nemesis system analyzes 100 battles its 1000% accurate

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DD Divine posted...

Mafia vs Jesse James gang was my fav episode

they won due to the rifle

Shmupguy posted...

*spoiler*

they won due to the rifle

I remember Jesse James and I remember mafia (in general) vs. yakuza (in general). Was it a specific mafioso and his group against Jesse James? I want to say maybe Capone? I remember both of those episodes were 5 on 5. I liked that format. Good for the suspense of it and showing off all the weapons.

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Machete posted...

I remember Jesse James and I remember mafia (in general) vs. yakuza (in general). Was it a specific mafioso and his group against Jesse James? I want to say maybe Capone? I remember both of those episodes were 5 on 5. I liked that format. Good for the suspense of it and showing off all the weapons.

Jesse James gang vs Al Capone gang

then mafia vs yakuza, both had tommy guns which was interesting yet it didnt factor much into Al Capone for some reason.

EbonTitanium posted...

Spartan armor was bronze or a leather/linen mix, that is weaker than steel.

Depends on the time period since it appears that by the classical era the Spartans weren't wearing body armor at all based on their description by Xenophon. They would've looked something like this:



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Shmupguy posted...

Jesse James gang vs Al Capone gang

then mafia vs yakuza, both had tommy guns which was interesting yet it didnt factor much into Al Capone for some reason.

okay that's what I thought. I remember Mafia vs. Yakuza ending with mafia win by ice pick in the ear

I also remember learning that tommy guns were pretty spray and pray lol

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Machete posted...

okay that's what I thought. I remember Mafia vs. Yakuza ending with mafia win by ice pick in the ear

I also remember learning that tommy guns were pretty spray and pray lol

Well the Chicago typewriters were because they were automatic only in the show.

I believe that was changed later on but you could burst fire if you wanted to.

Fun bump

That show is really, really bad about factual information. I would would actually advise to take every single thing they say and show with a grain of salt.

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The tests and stuff are really cool, as is the stuff when you see an expert demonstrate the weapons. The dramatic mockup of the end fights were nearly always cringey and stupid.

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Shmupguy posted...

I believe that was changed later on but you could burst fire if you wanted to.

I mean, yeah, but in general, an untrained mafioso wouldn't do that, sort of like how modern gangbangers do drive bys in hails of automatic fire rather than doing aimed bursts.

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HannibalBarca3 posted...

Depends on the time period since it appears that by the classical era the Spartans weren't wearing body armor at all based on their description by Xenophon. They would've looked something like this:

Im taking bronze breastplates & leather

Leather was rarely used for armor (aside from straps) because it's actually less protective than cloth armors for the most part. The historical evidence was leather armor is quite slim in comparison to metal, cloth, or even bone and wood. Granted, modern armor makers don't know the exact recipes leatherworkers used to boil and cure leather, but I've never personally seen testing that showed superior durability to cloth.

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Shmupguy posted...

Well the Chicago typewriters were because they were automatic only in the show.

I believe that was changed later on but you could burst fire if you wanted to.

What do you mean by that? Thompsons never had a burst-fire select.

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UnholyMudcrab posted...

What do you mean by that? Thompsons never had a burst-fire select.

I dont mean three round burst I mean burst fire

Can anyone answer my OP?

I am still confused, even if the ninjato never existed, the show displayed it; so lets just go by their logic.

I remember that show. That bald guy from Future Weapons totally came in and ruined it by the third season.

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WarfireX posted...

I remember that show. That bald guy from Future Weapons totally came in and ruined it by the third season.

Third season is really bad right now, I am so not interested in this bald guy, where is the computer whiz

@Machete
Wats the last episode?

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Shmupguy posted...

Can anyone answer my OP?

I am still confused, even if the ninjato never existed, the show displayed it; so lets just go by their logic.

My understanding is maybe the ninjas actually use wakazashis and in time and lore, "ninjato" was born and attributed to them im place of the wakizashi
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Machete posted...

My understanding is maybe the ninjas actually use wakazashis and in time and lore, "ninjato" was born and attributed to them im place of the wakizashi

here it is, they give the edge to the ninjato; but he doesnt use it during the sim.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D6bCTTXYApM

Shmupguy posted...

Third season is really bad right now, I am so not interested in this bald guy, where is the computer whiz

He doesn't offer anything of value to the show. My little bro and I would watch it together while it was coming out way back in the day. It was legit bonding time, where we'd make it a point to meet in the living room, stop whatever we were doing and catch Deadliest Warrior.

When Season 3 came out, we watched the first couple episodes....and just mutually at the same time stopped caring. I think we both missed like the third or fourth episode without even remembering. From then on we'd just joke about how he came in, hijacked the show from the legit interesting hosts, and ruined it with his stupid tactical simulation and map stuff. So boring and uninteresting.

What makes it even funnier is how he comes into the show like he was one of the hosts all along. He literally ruined the show, but he's acting like they're in his house LOL.

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This was my favorite part of the show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GgaNyyL9Mo

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Pogo_Marimo posted...

That show is really, really bad about factual information. I would would actually advise to take every single thing they say and show with a grain of salt.

I mean, it was made for Spike TV. It wasn't made to be informative it's literally a TV show version of a VS. topic.

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WarfireX posted...

He doesn't offer anything of value to the show. My little bro and I would watch it together while it was coming out way back in the day. It was legit bonding time, where we'd make it a point to meet in the living room, stop whatever we were doing and catch Deadliest Warrior.

When Season 3 came out, we watched the first couple episodes....and just mutually at the same time stopped caring. I think we both missed like the third or fourth episode without even remembering. From then on we'd just joke about how he came in, hijacked the show from the legit interesting hosts, and ruined it with his stupid tactical simulation and map stuff. So boring and uninteresting.

What makes it even funnier is how he comes into the show like he was one of the hosts all along. He literally ruined the show, but he's acting like they're in his house LOL.

I can see why, they dont even do a Season 2 wrap up (last man standing) match before Season 3.

that was one of the coolest parts of Season 1.

Zombies vs Vampires killed that show.

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Middle hope posted...

Zombies vs Vampires killed that show.

Nah it was the beginning of Season 3

This show was great. There was also a pretty janky fighting game and it was a lot of fun.

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