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MrFingers07 05/01/21 10:46:01 PM #1:	I didn't know that the technology being vaccines like Johnson and Johnson or AstraZeneca aren't exactly old and reliable. Why are people saying that these vaccines are using old methods and are more safer then? --- :D Brawlin' Mains: R.O.B., Lucario, Pikachu, Wolf <cite>MrFingers07 posted [p:953457447] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>I didn't know that the technology being vaccines like Johnson and Johnson or AstraZeneca aren't exactly old and reliable. Why are people saying that these vaccines are using old methods and are more safer then? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 05/01/21 10:51:21 PM #2:	Because mRNA has too many unknowns and have a higher occurrence of common side effects such as fatigue. J&J is the safest bet, since it doesn't cause fatigue and has lower chances of chills. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:953457574] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>Because mRNA has too many unknowns and have a higher occurrence of common side effects such as fatigue. J&J is the safest bet, since it doesn't cause fatigue and has lower chances of chills.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 05/01/21 10:52:03 PM #3:	Hop103 posted... Because mRNA has too many unknowns and have a higher occurrence of common side effects such as fatigue. Source pls --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:953457592] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>Hop103 posted... </cite> <quote>Because mRNA has too many unknowns and have a higher occurrence of common side effects such as fatigue.</quote>Source pls </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 05/01/21 10:55:17 PM #4:	Doom_Art posted... Source pls I know people who got Moderna and Pfzer and they were much out of it for a day or two, not to mention the fatigue is the most common complaint from those two vaccines, I see the complaints posted on this site daily. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:953457662] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote> Source pls </quote> I know people who got Moderna and Pfzer and they were much out of it for a day or two, not to mention the fatigue is the most common complaint from those two vaccines, I see the complaints posted on this site daily.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 05/01/21 10:55:24 PM #5:	MrFingers07 posted... I didn't know that the technology being vaccines like Johnson and Johnson or AstraZeneca aren't exactly old and reliable. Why are people saying that these vaccines are using old methods and are more safer then? The Pfizer / Moderna covid vaccines are the first time mRNA technology has been used outside of trials. The J&J or AstraZeneca ones are based on the viral vector technique, which is still closer to the "modern and fancy" end, but not as much so as mRNA, nor is it the first time the technology has been employed. Off the top of my head, the only covid vaccines I can think of that use the actual "traditional" method - ie: dead, inactivated or weakened particles of the actual virus - are the SinoVac and SinoPharm ones, although I'm sure more exist. --- [insert funny sig here] <cite>Trumble posted [p:953457667] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>MrFingers07 posted... </cite> <quote>I didn't know that the technology being vaccines like Johnson and Johnson or AstraZeneca aren't exactly old and reliable. Why are people saying that these vaccines are using old methods and are more safer then?</quote> The Pfizer / Moderna covid vaccines are the first time mRNA technology has been used outside of trials. The J&J or AstraZeneca ones are based on the viral vector technique, which is still closer to the "modern and fancy" end, but not as much so as mRNA, nor is it the first time the technology has been employed. Off the top of my head, the only covid vaccines I can think of that use the actual "traditional" method - ie: dead, inactivated or weakened particles of the actual virus - are the SinoVac and SinoPharm ones, although I'm sure more exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 05/01/21 10:55:29 PM #6:	because people are stupid and dont take the time to look shit up. Hop103 posted... Because mRNA has too many unknowns and have a higher occurrence of common side effects such as fatigue. J&J is the safest bet, since it doesn't cause fatigue and has lower chances of chills. so you realize that the other vaccines use a modified live virus to infect muscle cells at the injection site so they can co-opt the cell mechanics to produce the same damn spike protein right? if you're going to fear monger over a vaccine that would be the one to do it to, not the one that injects you with non-replicating molecules that break down in hours... --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:953457670] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>because people are stupid and dont take the time to look shit up. Hop103 posted... </cite> <quote>Because mRNA has too many unknowns and have a higher occurrence of common side effects such as fatigue. J&J is the safest bet, since it doesn't cause fatigue and has lower chances of chills.</quote>so you realize that the other vaccines use a modified live virus to infect muscle cells at the injection site so they can co-opt the cell mechanics to produce the same damn spike protein right? if you're going to fear monger over a vaccine that would be the one to do it to, not the one that injects you with non-replicating molecules that break down in hours... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 05/01/21 10:56:40 PM #7:	Hop103 posted... I know people so nothing okay then lol --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:953457691] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>Hop103 posted... </cite> <quote>I know people</quote>so nothing okay then lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 05/01/21 10:57:13 PM #8:	monkmith posted... so you realize that the other vaccines use a modified live virus to infect muscle cells at the injection site so they can co-opt the cell mechanics to produce the same damn spike protein right? I don't think this is correct. If I'm not mistaken, the modified live virus itself has "the same damn spike protein", rather than causing your cells to make it like the mRNA one does. --- [insert funny sig here] <cite>Trumble posted [p:953457705] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite> <quote>so you realize that the other vaccines use a modified live virus to infect muscle cells at the injection site so they can co-opt the cell mechanics to produce the same damn spike protein right?</quote> I don't think this is correct. If I'm not mistaken, the modified live virus itself has "the same damn spike protein", rather than causing your cells to make it like the mRNA one does. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 05/01/21 11:00:43 PM #9:	I got the Pfizer Vaccine and had 0 Side-Effects. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:953457795] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>I got the Pfizer Vaccine and had 0 Side-Effects. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 05/01/21 11:02:03 PM #10:	Trumble posted... I don't think this is correct. If I'm not mistaken, the modified live virus itself has "the same damn spike protein", rather than causing your cells to make it like the mRNA one does. nope. https://www.chop.edu/news/news-views-getting-familiar-covid-19-adenovirus-replication-deficient-vaccines though that itself is a type of vaccine, its simpler and quicker to package the it in a weakened virus that's been attenuated so it doesn't replicate. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:953457827] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite> <quote>I don't think this is correct. If I'm not mistaken, the modified live virus itself has "the same damn spike protein", rather than causing your cells to make it like the mRNA one does.</quote>nope. https://www.chop.edu/news/news-views-getting-familiar-covid-19-adenovirus-replication-deficient-vaccines though that itself is a type of vaccine, its simpler and quicker to package the it in a weakened virus that's been attenuated so it doesn't replicate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chrono625 05/01/21 11:03:09 PM #11:	I got the Moderna part 1 shot on Thursday. felt fine rest of Thursday. Friday comes, Im ok in the morning but by late morning/early afternoon I felt the aches and slight headaches associated with the onset or decline of the flu. it wasnt awful, been through worse. I didnt have a temperature or much of one. Today Im pretty much normal. --- https://imgur.com/Rqk1DYV - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's <cite>chrono625 posted [p:953457859] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>I got the Moderna part 1 shot on Thursday. felt fine rest of Thursday. Friday comes, Im ok in the morning but by late morning/early afternoon I felt the aches and slight headaches associated with the onset or decline of the flu. it wasnt awful, been through worse. I didnt have a temperature or much of one. Today Im pretty much normal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
googs19 05/01/21 11:23:06 PM #12:	Hop103 posted... J&J is the safest bet, since it doesn't cause fatigue and has lower chances of chills. Obviously this is anecdotal, but the 2 people I know who got the J&J vaccine were hit just as hard with side effects as the people I know who got the others. <cite>googs19 posted [p:953458340] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>Hop103 posted... </cite> <quote>J&J is the safest bet, since it doesn't cause fatigue and has lower chances of chills.</quote> Obviously this is anecdotal, but the 2 people I know who got the J&J vaccine were hit just as hard with side effects as the people I know who got the others. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 05/01/21 11:24:26 PM #13:	Hop103 posted... I know people who got Moderna and Pfzer and they were much out of it for a day or two, not to mention the fatigue is the most common complaint from those two vaccines, I see the complaints posted on this site daily. The good ol asspull. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:953458373] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>Hop103 posted... </cite> <quote>I know people who got Moderna and Pfzer and they were much out of it for a day or two, not to mention the fatigue is the most common complaint from those two vaccines, I see the complaints posted on this site daily.</quote> The good ol asspull. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcanine2009 05/01/21 11:38:03 PM #14:	Hop103 posted... Because mRNA has too many unknowns and have a higher occurrence of common side effects such as fatigue. J&J is the safest bet, since it doesn't cause fatigue and has lower chances of chills. but J&J sure as hell has a higher chance of causing blood clots. Fatigue from moderna only lasts a day --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. <cite>Arcanine2009 posted [p:953458714] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>Hop103 posted... </cite> <quote>Because mRNA has too many unknowns and have a higher occurrence of common side effects such as fatigue. J&J is the safest bet, since it doesn't cause fatigue and has lower chances of chills.</quote>but J&J sure as hell has a higher chance of causing blood clots. Fatigue from moderna only lasts a day </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KLouD_KoNNeCteD 05/01/21 11:39:17 PM #15:	Hop103 posted... I know people who got Moderna and Pfzer and they were much out of it for a day or two, not to mention the fatigue is the most common complaint from those two vaccines, I see the complaints posted on this site daily. ... <cite>KLouD_KoNNeCteD posted [p:953458749] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>Hop103 posted... </cite> <quote>I know people who got Moderna and Pfzer and they were much out of it for a day or two, not to mention the fatigue is the most common complaint from those two vaccines, I see the complaints posted on this site daily.</quote>... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 05/01/21 11:39:44 PM #16:	Please don't feed that guy --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:953458754] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>Please don't feed that guy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 05/01/21 11:46:19 PM #17:	MrFingers07 posted... I didn't know that the technology being vaccines like Johnson and Johnson or AstraZeneca aren't exactly old and reliable. Why are people saying that these vaccines are using old methods and are more safer then? Because theyre just uninformed opinions. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:953458931] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>MrFingers07 posted... </cite> <quote>I didn't know that the technology being vaccines like Johnson and Johnson or AstraZeneca aren't exactly old and reliable. Why are people saying that these vaccines are using old methods and are more safer then?</quote>Because theyre just uninformed opinions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 05/01/21 11:50:41 PM #18:	monkmith posted... nope. https://www.chop.edu/news/news-views-getting-familiar-covid-19-adenovirus-replication-deficient-vaccines though that itself is a type of vaccine, its simpler and quicker to package the it in a weakened virus that's been attenuated so it doesn't replicate. Ah, well I've learnt something today then. --- [insert funny sig here] <cite>Trumble posted [p:953459040] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite> <quote>nope. https://www.chop.edu/news/news-views-getting-familiar-covid-19-adenovirus-replication-deficient-vaccines though that itself is a type of vaccine, its simpler and quicker to package the it in a weakened virus that's been attenuated so it doesn't replicate.</quote>Ah, well I've learnt something today then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 05/02/21 12:08:46 AM #19:	So like what happens if your body has previously been exposed to the viral vector used in the J&J vaccine? --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:953459525] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>So like what happens if your body has previously been exposed to the viral vector used in the J&J vaccine? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gurifisu 05/02/21 12:11:33 AM #20:	Doom_Art posted... Source pls --- Enter the baller zone: http://error1355.com/ce/Gurifisu.html <cite>Gurifisu posted [p:953459591] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>Source pls</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 05/02/21 12:15:07 AM #21:	Hop103 posted... Because mRNA has too many unknowns and have a higher occurrence of common side effects such as fatigue. J&J is the safest bet, since it doesn't cause fatigue and has lower chances of chills. Oh no! Not side effects for a day or two after a vaccine! --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:953459695] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>Hop103 posted... </cite> <quote>Because mRNA has too many unknowns and have a higher occurrence of common side effects such as fatigue. J&J is the safest bet, since it doesn't cause fatigue and has lower chances of chills.</quote>Oh no! Not side effects for a day or two after a vaccine! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 05/02/21 12:16:19 AM #22:	Arcanine2009 posted... but J&J sure as hell has a higher chance of causing blood clots. Fatigue from moderna only lasts a day To be fair, COVID-19 sure as hell has a higher chance of causing blood clots than the J&J shot --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:953459723] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>Arcanine2009 posted... </cite> <quote>but J&J sure as hell has a higher chance of causing blood clots. Fatigue from moderna only lasts a day</quote>To be fair, COVID-19 sure as hell has a higher chance of causing blood clots than the J&J shot </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 05/02/21 12:21:10 AM #23:	Arcanine2009 posted... J&J sure as hell has a higher chance of causing blood clots. it's awfully low. women have 3x the risk compared to men. i had the fatigue from J&J. felt like i walked to the store and back. felt that way for 6 hours until i woke up feeling refreshed. did have arm pain for a week (raising my arm would make it hurt). fun fact: had no problem walking the dog from the time i got up for the first 30 mins the day after the shot. --- Explorers In The Further Regions Of Experience, demons to some, Angels To Others: Pinhead <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:953459855] in I knew tha... [t:79436376]...</cite> <quote>Arcanine2009 posted...</cite> <quote>J&J sure as hell has a higher chance of causing blood clots.</quote> it's awfully low. women have 3x the risk compared to men. i had the fatigue from J&J. felt like i walked to the store and back. felt that way for 6 hours until i woke up feeling refreshed. did have arm pain for a week (raising my arm would make it hurt). fun fact: had no problem walking the dog from the time i got up for the first 30 mins the day after the shot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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