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Yes but by choice. I turned down relationships/sex/threesomes before.

FarmDog posted...

Yes but by choice. I turned down relationships/sex/threesomes before.

I've awkwarded myself out of threesomes before. When that shit looks like its about to happen I just transform into a sniveling simp, and lose my cool - and thereby my attractiveness. It happened to me twice.

I also bored myself out of a threesome once. Spring break, some chick wanted a threesome w/ her friend...whom I was talking/dancing with most of the day. We got back to her hotel room, and we were waiting for the friend to arrive, and she kept saying "10 more minutes" and I got tired of waiting and just fucked the other girl instead. By the time she finally made it back to the hotel room, 45 minutes had past and I was just finishing up lol

But yeah, nobody turns down a threesome on purpose unless you think their con artists whom are going to find a way to rob you.

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FarmDog posted...

Yes but by choice. I turned down relationships/sex/threesomes before.

Must be nice to at least have the option.

STEROLIZER posted...

I've awkwarded myself out of threesomes before. When that shit looks like its about to happen I just transform into a sniveling simp, and lose my cool - and thereby my attractiveness. It happened to me twice.

I also bored myself out of a threesome once. Spring break, some chick wanted a threesome w/ her friend...whom I was talking/dancing with most of the day. We got back to her hotel room, and we were waiting for the friend to arrive, and she kept saying "10 more minutes" and I got tired of waiting and just fucked the other girl instead. By the time she finally made it back to the hotel room, 45 minutes had past and I was just finishing up lol

But yeah, nobody turns down a threesome on purpose unless you think their con artists whom are going to find a way to rob you.

Just shoot me.

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KogaSteelfang posted...

Must be nice to at least have the option.

I wouldnt call it an option. These things arent on hold. Do you mean opportunities?

FarmDog posted...

I wouldnt call it an option. These things arent on hold. Do you mean opportunities?

I guess so.

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STEROLIZER posted...

I'm saying that women don't realize what they like. Women all have the same complaints against men, because in general they are all attracted to and pursue the same type of man. Confident, Aggressive, Not Agreeable, and Arrogant/Selfish.

This is because those are typically the traits associated with a successful male. Men tend to be attractive to just physical qualities - like we'll fuck the cashier at McDonalds without a second guess if she's hot enough. What women find attractive is a whole lot more complex.

Women typically try to date up, and find a partner that has:

* More noteworthy accomplishments
* Higher career aspirations
* Higher social status
* Higher paying job
* Better possessions
* More interesting
* More assertive
* More money
* Better life
...than they do.

So since these types of men are typically Uber Alpha Males, women (especially super hot ones) tend to only ever date or romantically involve themselves with men who are Confident, Brash, Loud, Aggressive (not physically), Assertive, Arrogant, and Selfish.

If a women dates 10 guys, and they all have the above traits, then they'll start to say things like...I want a man who is intune with this emotions, who listens to me, who doesn't always have to be right, isn't afraid to cries, is risk averse, avoids confrontation, and puts my needs first.

But you know who that guy is they just described? That's either their gay friend, or the poor sap they have "friend zoned" - the one whom they go to in order to complain about the confident, brash, loud, assertive, arrogant, asshole that they are currently fucking.

You catch my drift here? Women get pissed off at the guys they date, and claim they want them to change. But they are all attracted to the same type of guy. If those guys actually changed then they wouldn't be attracted to them anymore...because they would just be Jimmy...and Jimmy has been friendzoned for 15 fucking years.

What I'm saying is that it is understandable to complain about one's life. We all do it. Since girls are attracted to your standard "alpha guy template" then that is what they end up complaining about. However, if they were actually hated these qualities, and were actually attracted to all the fucking things they say that they claim they wish these "Chads" would morph into...well...then there wouldn't be 100 virgins on CE now would there?

This is where the whole "blue & red pill" analogies comes from. You can take the blue pill, and continue perceiving the world in how women (and mainstream media) tell you it is to be perceived, or you can take the red pill and perceive the world how it truly is. Once you recognize how the world operates, then you can learn to successfully operate within it.

Wow you swallowed that pill and its well digested at this point. My gf doesnt give a fuck about this 'template' nor does my gay sister when she looks for mates. My sister in law didnt give a flying fuck when she entroped my brother. None of us are successful, that isn't what the ladies look for in us and them... You're holding to some fictional ideal. And I can guarantee my own 'sexual conquests' are more impressive then yours so stop trying to lure poor bastards to this redpill bullshit.

My gf provides for her self, she is an independent woman. And that number is growing. The archetpyes are dying off, and a woman wants more than a full wallet in her bed.

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KogaSteelfang posted...

I guess so.

Maybe through your perspective. I personally hate it. I always have to come up with an excuse why and turn it down. I feel like sometimes they might think Im lying or I hate them or something else. If it ever happens again sometime in the future Ill just straight up be honest. No more lies.

ShyOx posted...

Wow you swallowed that pill and its well digested at this point. My gf doesnt give a fuck about this 'template' nor does my gay sister when she looks for mates. My sister in law didnt give a flying fuck when she entroped my brother. None of us are successful, that isn't what the ladies look for in us and them... You're holding to some fictional ideal. And I can guarantee my own 'sexual conquests' are more impressive then yours so stop trying to lure poor bastards to this redpill bullshit.

My gf provides for her self, she is an independent woman. And that number is growing. The archetpyes are dying off, and a woman wants more than a full wallet in her bed.

Why would you bring up your gay sister or your girlfriend? Obviously your girlfriend doesn't because she likes you. Is your girlfriend also a typical instagram model? No, well, there you go.

Not everyone is rich. The vast majority of the world isn't rich, mostly people are middle class or just above poverty line. They get married, have kids, etc.

That doesn't change that laws of attraction are still a thing. Go to a poorest part of America, where the dating pool is similar. Women are still going to be attractive to the guy who checks off the bullet points I previously listed - its all relative to the pool of men at her disposal.

This is why when you were in high school the most popular guys got the chicks. Popularity was deemed as "successful" to the girls within the school. What caused that popularity? Sports accomplishments? That's about the high school equivalent of having a viable and respectable career. How about the kid who demanded the most respect from their peers? Well, how did that happen? Probably by being a Confident, Brash, Loud, Aggressive (not physically), Assertive, Arrogant Asshole, eh?


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ShyOx posted...

And I can guarantee my own 'sexual conquests' are more impressive then yours

You can? Really?

Okay, how about you try and guess which person I am within this MMA promo. I expect you to try and pick the uglier one so you can try and justify your sexual accomplishments to me. I'm curious as to which one you'll choose.



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STEROLIZER posted...

Why would you bring up your gay sister or your girlfriend? Obviously your girlfriend doesn't because she likes you. Is your girlfriend also a typical instagram model? No, well, there you go.

Not everyone is rich. The vast majority of the world isn't rich, mostly people are middle class or just above poverty line. They get married, have kids, etc.

That doesn't change that laws of attraction are still a thing. Go to a poorest part of America, where the dating pool is similar. Women are still going to be attractive to the guy who checks off the bullet points I previously listed - its all relative to the pool of men at her disposal.

This is why when you were in high school the most popular guys got the chicks. Popularity was deemed as "successful" to the girls within the school. What caused that popularity? Sports accomplishments? That's about the high school equivalent of having a viable and respectable career. How about the kid who demanded the most respect from their peers? Well, how did that happen? Probably by being a Confident, Brash, Loud, Aggressive (not physically), Assertive, Arrogant Asshole, eh?

No. My brother was one of the most eligible and popular bachelors at the high school and wasn't any of these qualities. He was humorous and humble, sensitive and charismatic. We knew and hung with the 'preps
but we werent them.

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ShyOx posted...

No. My brother was one of the most eligible and popular bachelors at the high school and wasn't any of these qualities. He was humorous and humble, sensitive and charismatic. We knew and hung with the 'preps
but we werent them.

Charisma is a powerful tool. Women concentrate on how other people react to you. Its why in high school getting bullied is the worst thing possible. Girls will feel sorry for you, but the thought of having sex with you repulses them. In contrast, girls will hate the bully for picking on you and think they are an asshole. They'll also fuck said bully and try to "change him."

They don't actually want him to change though, they just think they do. If he actually changed into the kid that was getting bullied, then she wouldn't be interested any longer.

So then, no guesses as to which fighter I am? Does that mean you concede that your sexual accomplishments probably are not better than mine?

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Your silence is deafening. Let it be known that I didn't bring it up, you brought it up.

Anyhow, nobody is above getting a girl, falling in love, and starting a family. Sure it sucks that being a "nice guy" doesn't get you anywhere, but you know what, that confident, brash, loud, aggressive, assertive, arrogant asshole...he gets the chance to become loving husband and father. The ends justify the means.

Anyone who finds themselves living life as an incel with a sense of dread, despair, and utter hopelessness...its not a death sentence. You just have to start playing ball.

I used this analogy earlier in another topic. The sky SHOULD be green, because then it would go with the grass. However, that doesn't change that the sky is still blue. You SHOULDN'T have to change yourself in order to attract a mate, in a perfect world there would literally be somebody for everyone. However, the sky is still blue.

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No, but being a virgin is not a big deal.

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No wonder so many people here are angry as fuck

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Lost it when I turned 18.

Not for some time.


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STEROLIZER posted...

I'm saying that women don't realize what they like. Women all have the same complaints against men, because in general they are all attracted to and pursue the same type of man. Confident, Aggressive, Not Agreeable, and Arrogant/Selfish.

This is because those are typically the traits associated with a successful male. Men tend to be attractive to just physical qualities - like we'll fuck the cashier at McDonalds without a second guess if she's hot enough. What women find attractive is a whole lot more complex.

Women typically try to date up, and find a partner that has:

* More noteworthy accomplishments
* Higher career aspirations
* Higher social status
* Higher paying job
* Better possessions
* More interesting
* More assertive
* More money
* Better life
...than they do.

So since these types of men are typically Uber Alpha Males, women (especially super hot ones) tend to only ever date or romantically involve themselves with men who are Confident, Brash, Loud, Aggressive (not physically), Assertive, Arrogant, and Selfish.

If a women dates 10 guys, and they all have the above traits, then they'll start to say things like...I want a man who is intune with this emotions, who listens to me, who doesn't always have to be right, isn't afraid to cries, is risk averse, avoids confrontation, and puts my needs first.

But you know who that guy is they just described? That's either their gay friend, or the poor sap they have "friend zoned" - the one whom they go to in order to complain about the confident, brash, loud, assertive, arrogant, asshole that they are currently fucking.

You catch my drift here? Women get pissed off at the guys they date, and claim they want them to change. But they are all attracted to the same type of guy. If those guys actually changed then they wouldn't be attracted to them anymore...because they would just be Jimmy...and Jimmy has been friendzoned for 15 fucking years.

What I'm saying is that it is understandable to complain about one's life. We all do it. Since girls are attracted to your standard "alpha guy template" then that is what they end up complaining about. However, if they were actually hated these qualities, and were actually attracted to all the fucking things they say that they claim they wish these "Chads" would morph into...well...then there wouldn't be 100 virgins on CE now would there?

This is where the whole "blue & red pill" analogies comes from. You can take the blue pill, and continue perceiving the world in how women (and mainstream media) tell you it is to be perceived, or you can take the red pill and perceive the world how it truly is. Once you recognize how the world operates, then you can learn to successfully operate within it.

Almost everything you've said is bullshit. It's a work of complete fiction.

You don't get to talk down to me about how the world operates and how I need to learn to successfully operate within it, because I'm not one of your little red pill bitches.

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Yes, and I doubt that will ever change.

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Married for a year, been with her for 8. No I am not a virgin.

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Not a virgin.

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I wish, my wizard powers would be immense right now.

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IloveJesus posted...

Almost everything you've said is bullshit. It's a work of complete fiction.

You don't get to talk down to me about how the world operates and how I need to learn to successfully operate within it, because I'm not one of your little red pill bitches.

You don't have to do anything bro. Continue doing you if that's working for you.

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working doesn't necessarily get you laid

I worked out in college, I bench and squatted well above my own weight. Had definition but due to my metabolism I still had a small frame and didn't attract attention from women

my asymmetrical face/head shape and I hate to sound sterotypical but: beta personality just got me friendzoned over a dozen times

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No, I'm not a virgin.

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GS4Life posted...

working doesn't necessarily get you laid

I worked out in college, I bench and squatted well above my own weight. Had definition but due to my metabolism I still had a small frame and didn't attract attention from women

my asymmetrical face/head shape and I hate to sound sterotypical but: beta personality just got me friendzoned over a dozen times

That's correct. I've been there, done that. It's an attitude. You can't let others walk all over you, especially those physically weaker than you. It shows mental weakness in the eyes of women and is associated w/ failure and is therefore unattractive.

This isn't even a conscious form of mental gymnastics. You could look like a romance cover model, but if you let people treat you like shit then women will subconsciously NOT be attractive to you unless you meet them in a setting where women have no preconceived notions...like a nightclub dance floor...

...or Tinder. Tinder had been a lifesaver for these ugly duckling types. Albeit, most dates probably still go sour if their beta attitude stays the same. But at least they are getting their foot into the door. Like, the bra is already unhooked, so half the work is done.

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undefined posted...

People refuse to accept that some can't lose it. I don't know why.

Because you can lose it.

You can:

• Lose weight
• Join a martial arts gym
• Get a normal hobbie, like hiking or wine tasting
• Start paying attention to style & pop culture fads
• Up you social media presence, stop hiding behind anime avatars
• Move away from whatever dreaded hellhole that is currently motivating you to "go-through-the-motuons"
• Put yourself on a path to change your career, doesn't have to be school - could be a YouTube channel or website
• Take note of your awkward tendencies and start to take conscious actions to check them, start little,work your way up
• Take charisma boosting advice, stop brushing it off. Stop brushing off all advice like what's being done in this topic. Seriously.

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@JTilly what advice you have for CE?

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Damn, once actual sound advice starts getting shared, everyone goes silent, eh?

Nobody actually wants to be a virgin, and everyone...no matter how terrible you feel about yourself...deserves to be loved. Y'all deserve the chance to become devoted husbands, and fathers.

No reason to give up. Nothing is ever set in stone, but you have to throw all that bullshit selth loathing in the trash, and make a conscious effort to recognize that what you are currently doing, as in, how you are currently living your life...its not working out for you. So change it.

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idk, I wouldn't want to become a bro either tho

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joe40001 posted...

idk, I wouldn't want to become a bro either tho

pick your poison.

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STEROLIZER posted...

pick your poison.

I don't understand what you are saying.

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joe40001 posted...

I don't understand what you are saying.

Would you rather be a Bro, or be a Virgin?

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STEROLIZER posted...

Would you rather be a Bro, or be a Virgin?

A virgin probably. But I don't think you have to be a bro to get laid.

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STEROLIZER posted...

Nobody actually wants to be a virgin, and everyone...no matter how terrible you feel about yourself...deserves to be loved. Y'all deserve the chance to become devoted husbands, and fathers.

This is nice. The rest of your posts, and other topics just seem to be a venue to brag about yourself and advertise a reddit forum though.

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KogaSteelfang posted...

This is nice. The rest of your posts, and other topics just seem to be a venue to brag about yourself and advertise a reddit forum though.

Yeah it goes to show that you can be a miserable pile of secrets regardless of if girls find you attractive or not. Tc may have confidence but his esteem is likely not much different from the virgins he's talking to

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Master Kazuya posted...

Tc may have confidence but his esteem is likely not much different from the virgins he's talking to

That's so... disheartening. That even with success it won't change how you feel.

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I'm not a virgin, but I have not had sex in over 3 years and basically have less confidence than virgin me.

KogaSteelfang posted...

That's so... disheartening. That even with success it won't change how you feel.

It could be true. I've had sex with a lot of women. I make good money. I am physically very fit.

I struggle in social situations to the point of disability though and being self aware has done nothing but destroy my confidence.

STEROLIZER posted...

Would you rather be a Bro, or be a Virgin?

Lol you are wrong on this, you don't have to be a Bro to get laid dude.

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Haven't been a virgin for almost half my life now.

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BaphometFlux posted...

Lol you are wrong on this, you don't have to be a Bro to get laid dude.

I know that, but that dude was making the comparison saying that he doesn't want to be a bro, therefore he wont attempt to use anything he considers " bro tactics' to get laid.

So I was like, pick your poison. Bro or virgin.

You don't have to be a "Bro" (whatever that even means in 2021) to get laid, I was just going off his excuse for not trying.

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KogaSteelfang posted...

This is nice. The rest of your posts, and other topics just seem to be a venue to brag about yourself and advertise a reddit forum though.

You can interpret them in that manner if you like. However, all of my posts are designed to motivate incels to get out there and make an effort to change themselves. I have no sympathy for the plight of an incel who doesn't try. I don't wish to join in the pity party parade that has been started inside the Bubble that is CE. I'd like to burst that bubble with tough love, and motivate some change.

This whole "woest me. just leave me alone, and let me die in hopelessness already" is not my forte. Many of the people here who brush off there 40 year old stints of virginity as "it doesn't matter" forget that sex is directly tied to finding a life partner, falling in love, raising a family, and passing on everything of value that you possess to the next generation.

You know I actually don't like the term "red pill" - I hate it actually. It implies a "hive mind" think:

• Everyone who practices "red pill" techniques therefore [insert a bunch of bullet points here].

It's no different than saying...

• I voted democrat I therefore believe [insert of bunch of bullet points here].
• Because I'm a christian I therefore believe [insert a bunch of bullet points here].
• Because I'm a vegan I there behave [insert a bunch of bullet points here].
• Because I'm a Powerlifter I therefore behave [insert a bunch of bullet points here].
• Because I my father is black I there behave [insert a bunch of bullet points here.]
• Because I am white I therefore believe [insert a bunch of bullet points here.]

It goes on and on with this hivemind, tribalism, collectivist bullshit. The bullets even start to contradict each other. Democract & Christian? Vegan & Powerlifter? Raised black, but his skin his white? Fuck your labels. I am a nuanced person. I am an individual, with my own personal beliefs.

In regards to Red Pill. The above examples can look like this: "He practiced red pill techniques to attract a mate, but ended up raising a family composed of 4 daughters?"

If you ignore all the misogynistic qualities and speech patterns associated with that community, you are left with just a foundation of techniques. Those techniques work. There have been many thousand of incels on the verge of suicide that have gone in, taken those techniques, and used them as a bridge to attract a mate, find forever love, become a devoted husband, and a loving father - possibly to a group of daughters.

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To follow up on that...

I only use the term "red pill" because its what y'all understand. It would take too hard to break down all the nuances to explain which portions I believe in, which I don't, and it doesn't really matter.

You can still do a math equation without behaving like a mathematician. You can still follow a recipe, without being a 5 star cook. You don't have to be a misogynistic jackass to practice red pill techniques and self-improve yourself.

I listed bullet points on the top of page 14, those are red pill techniques. I just worded them without the whole "fuck these bitches, I'm a give them my dick bros" terminology.

While we are on that. I find the incel communities way more hateful towards women than Red Pill. In fact I'd argue for all the stupid locker room talk, red pills don't hate women at all. Incels blame women (and other men) for their plights - they learn to hate everyone, including themselves. Meanwhile, the red pillers are constantly looking to attract women, and have sex - but also so that they can fall in love, and become devoted husbands & fathers.

Whenever I see some Johnny Bravo, cartoonish type post in the Red Pill Subreddt that reads something akin to...

"Yo brah's, I took all of your advice, and found these sluts in line at the DMV, and got them to suck my dick in bathroom. I got both numbers but then flushed them down the toilet because I aint about no whored brah!"

...I typically just assume its an incel making shit up, trying to behave and sound like what he assumes a red piller is. Which is going to call him to fail, give up, and descend into forever loneliness. That isn't real people behave, regardless of whatever label might be tossed upon them.

So ignore the term "red pill" for a moment. Forget it exists. Think of it this way:

Men who take relationship advice from other men, who have "been there & done that" have way more success in finding a mate, raising a family, and dying with a smile on there face...as opposed to men who takes advice from women and the politically correct media.

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What the fuck is happening here? Can someone summarize?

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KogaSteelfang posted...

That's so... disheartening. That even with success it won't change how you feel.

My self-esteem use to be shit, just like the virgins you are referring too. But at age 24 I moved away from the hole I had dug for myself in my hometown & worked to self-improve myself. As such I have more confidence & self-esteem that I know what to do with.

One thing that I'm trying to do with it, is pass it off to some of you.

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meralonne posted...

What the fuck is happening here? Can someone summarize?

Summary:
If you are an incel, and don't wont to change then I have no sympathy for you, and you can fuck off. If you do want to change, and want to give yourself a chance to become a devoted husband & father, then read my walls of text.

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TC you are a complete weirdo. Find something better to do