Current Events > Never forget how Capcom handled Megaman Legends 3.

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• Created a prologue of Legends 3 to gauge interest in the project and see if they should continue with the full game
• Finished the prologue 100%
• Never released the prologue and cancelled the project anyway

What?

Yeah... it was the worst of Capcom

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because prior to the prologue it didn't gather enough interest in their eyes to even waste their time to release the prologue. and don't give me that "BUT THEY DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL AFTER THE RELEASE THE PROLOGUE" crap either. no one gave a fuck about the game until after they cancelled the whole shit, and then you have people who knew nothing about the series jump into the hate because "xfdcapcom" -.-

SkylightNight posted...

because prior to the prologue it didn't gather enough interest in their eyes to even waste their time to release the prologue. and don't give me that "BUT THEY DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL AFTER THE RELEASE THE PROLOGUE" crap either. no one gave a fuck about the game until after they cancelled the whole shit, and then you have people who knew nothing about the series jump into the hate because "xfdcapcom" -.-

The prologue was done.

when they scammed people into paying for a demo then cancelled the game lmfao

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ModLogic posted...

when they scammed people into paying for a demo then cancelled the game lmfao

The demo was never released. It was a ten mission prologue for $2. Sounds reasonable to me.

Yeah, Japanese developers - notably Capcom - has a weird history of coming up with concepts to measure interest, and putting too much stalk into these concept's success for future development.

There was also the Darkstalkers collection released for PS3 and Xbox. It was meant to gauge how much people wanted a new Darkstalkers, but after it had middling sales, they nixed a potential current gen revival.

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You forgot the fucking forum where fans could submit and vote on character designs of old and new characters as well as other things behind the scenes. I used to browse/post on that forum a lot. When Legends 3 was canned that shit hurt my soul.

I'll never forgive Capcom.

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Never will.

You also forgot how Capcom used fans as a scapegoat for Inafune quitting by lying about their lack of contribution to the project, which was bullshit.

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It's similar to why I hate Konami/Kojima. They canceled Zone of the Enders 3 because the HD remaster didn't sell well when they gave it to a shitty company who fucked up the port so bad Konami had to come in and patch it and then blame fans for not buying the shitty version pre-patch.

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They cancelled because MML is an awful selling franchise. I agree they should have never teased MML3 but cancelling it was the best practical thing to do.

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You guys can be as verbal as you want but sales records talks louder than any of you. I can repost my copy and paste evidence of MML selling like shit.

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Capcom doesn't care about any of its properties except Street Fighter and Resident Evil. If they could do a crossover in which M. Bison tries to use the G-Virus to take over the world, it'd be the last project they ever worked on. There'd be nothing but sequels to that from there on out.

Capcom cares about making a profit from their games. You know, just like any other gaming company.

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Veggeta X posted...

They cancelled because MML is an awful selling franchise. I agree they should have never teased MML3 but cancelling it was the best practical thing to do.

MML3 and all the other Mega Man games at that time were cancelled out of spite of Inafune leaving Capcom.

It's that simple, Mega Man games didn't sell the best but their budgets are also nowhere near as big as franchises like Resident Evil or Monster Hunter, which is why they were able to release so many Mega Man games per year during that time period.

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KlRBEH posted...

MML3 and all the other Mega Man games at that time were cancelled out of spite of Inafune leaving Capcom.

It could be for both. Capcom has made public announcement and posts on how badly MML sold.

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https://twitter.com/CapcomEurope/status/93720826087620608?s=20

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It's more linked to Inafune's departure than anything else, had he not left, we would 100% gotten the game

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YoungMutual posted...

It's more linked to Inafune's departure than anything else, had he not left, we would 100% gotten the game

Post 17

Sorry boys it's your own fault you didn't get MML3. Blame it on yourself.

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Veggeta X posted...

It could be for both. Capcom has made public announcement and posts on how badly MML sold.

It wasn't enough of a reason to cancel it. Once again if you aren't aware they had a whole DevRoom forum where fans could submit/vote on designs and things that would end up in the full game.

https://megaman.fandom.com/wiki/Mega_Man_Legends_3_Reaverbot_Devroom_Entries
https://megaman.fandom.com/wiki/Mega_Man_Legends_3_Townspeople_Devroom_Entries
https://megaman.fandom.com/wiki/Mega_Man_Legends_3_Promotional_Ideas_Devroom_Entries
https://megaman.fandom.com/wiki/Mega_Man_Legends_3_Easter_Egg_Devroom_Entries
https://megaman.fandom.com/wiki/Mega_Man_Legends_3_Bonne_Mecha_Devroom_Entries

There was more than this too. The real reason why it was canned was because Capcom were being petty little bitches over Inafune leaving so they wanted Mega Man to rot.

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This dude is getting weirdly defensive in favor of this multimillion dollar corporation lol

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Doom_Art posted...

This dude is getting weirdly defensive in favor of this multimillion dollar corporation lol

He doesn't know what he's talking about so he's trying to save face

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Sorry but I choose to believe it's because the series sold like shit which is why they discontinue it.

It's really that simple. MML1 and MML2 sold horribly.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/tgs-07-mega-man-celebrates-20th-anniversary/1100-6179759/

"I really have a lot of memories with all the Mega Man titles and it's difficult to just pick one of them as my favorite," said Inafune. "But if I were to do so, it would be the game that I'd consider to be like a clumsy son. It's Mega Man Legends, a title that really didn't sell well in the Mega Man franchise."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_Man_Legends_2

The PlayStation version of Mega Man Legends 2 was the 139th best-selling video game in Japan in 2000 at 88,131 units sold. The PSP version of the game barely made it into the Famitsu top 500 best-sellers list in Japan for 2005 at a mere 15,309 units sold by the end of the year.

They made MM11 btw and released MMX Legacy collections so they don't hate the MM games.

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KlRBEH posted...

He doesn't know what he's talking about so he's trying to save face

I do. You're the one who is putting the fingers in your ears. I posted solid proof of the game selling like shit and public posts saying there weren't an audience for the series.

What do you have? A claim and vocal minorities.

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Doom_Art posted...

This dude is getting weirdly defensive in favor of this multimillion dollar corporation lol

Okay Karen

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Answer me this question then.

Mega Man Legends 2 came out in 2000
Mega Man Legends 3 was announced/developed in 2010 and cancelled in 2011.

If it was so black and white as you're saying about Capcom cancelling MML3 because MML1/2 sold badly, then why the hell did they even waste their time reviving and developing MML3 a decade later if they were just going to cancel it and have the reasoning be "it was going to sell badly"? Don't you think they knew how MML1/2 sold before they even started making MML3?

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KlRBEH posted...

Answer me this question then.

Mega Man Legends 2 came out in 2000
Mega Man Legends 3 was announced/developed in 2010 and cancelled in 2011.

If it was so black and white as you're saying about Capcom cancelling MML3 because MML1/2 sold badly, then why the hell did they even waste their time reviving and developing MML3 a decade later if they were just going to cancel it and have the reasoning be "it was going to sell badly"? Don't you think they knew how MML1/2 sold before they even started making MML3?

Post 11. It was shitty and a dumb thing to tease MML3 for sure but they made MML2 even when part 1 sold like shit and even ported to N64 because maybe they prolly were hopeful it would sell.

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Veggeta X posted...

Okay Karen

uhhhh what

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Veggeta X posted...

Post 11. It was shitty and a dumb thing to tease MML3 for sure but they made MML2 even when part 1 sold like shit and even ported to N64 because maybe they prolly were hopeful it would sell.

That still doesn't answer my question, what changed their mind from when they decided to revive it to when they cancelled it if sales were the only factor? Maybe your reasoning would have merit if Legends 3 was originally supposed to come out in 2002, but Capcom at this point had an entire decade to reflect and know what they were getting into when they planned on reviving/developing Legends 3.

Maybe I'd get it if the game wasn't very far in production either, but there was literally a Prototype version of the game that was set to release on the Nintendo eShop and everything. Capcom even said that the "Prototype's sales would determine if the game was going to be released or not", but the game was cancelled before the Prototype even came out lmao.

Why waste that amount of manpower and development time if sales were the only factor? Why say sales is the only factor when Capcom didn't even allow sales to be the factor of deciding whether or not the game would come out when they literally said they would?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-p8PmomiGw

You're full of shit dude, once again you don't know what you're talking about

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Doom_Art posted...

This dude is getting weirdly defensive in favor of this multimillion dollar corporation lol

He's a self-admitted Capcom fanboy.

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KlRBEH posted...

That still doesn't answer my question, what changed their mind from when they decided to revive it to them when they cancelled it if sales were the only factor?

I told you why. Sales weren't the only factor. There weren't enough of an audience and I'm sure Inafune leaving contributed to it but you exclusively want to believe it's because Capcom wants to screw you over.

KlRBEH posted...

Maybe your reasoning would have merit if Legends 3 was originally supposed to come out in 2002 or, but Capcom at this point had an entire decade to reflect and know what they were getting into when they planned on reviving/developing Legends 3.

It's not unreasonable to think someone at the top decided to pull the plug after much pondering or something similar might have happened. Maybe they thought giving this series too much a chance was detrimental to the profits.

I have said that there are contributers to why they ended the series mainly the bad sales one but you're completely stuck on the option that Capcom just hates you.


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Solar_Crimson posted...

He's a self-admitted Capcom fanboy.

At least I know I'm a fanboy of theirs. While some of you guys are in denial about your blind hatred towards Capcom, acting like Karens.

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Never forget how they made Breath of Fire 6 a crappy, Japan-only mobile game that didn't have a Ryu protagonist and was shut down after just one year. And then they had the nerve to wonder why people weren't interested in the series any more.

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Veggeta X posted...

I told you why. Sales weren't the only factor. There weren't enough of an audience and I'm sure Inafune leaving contributed to it but you exclusively want to believe it's because Capcom wants to screw you over.

It's not unreasonable to think someone at the top decided to pull the plug after much pondering or something similar might have happened. Maybe they thought giving this series too much a chance was detrimental to the profits.

I have said that there are contributers to why they ended the series mainly the bad sales one but you're completely stuck on the option that Capcom just hates you.

Never once did I say Capcom cancelled it because they "hate me", I said it was cancelled because Capcom did it to spite Inafune.

And its not like Legends 3 was the only thing that Capcom did to Mega Man at that time that was shitty. This is just off the top of my head

Mega Man Legends 3- Cancelled
Mega Man Universe- Cancelled
Mega Man Star Force 4- Cancelled
Mega Man ZX3- Cancelled
Marvel vs Capcom 3- Mega Man is absent
Street FighterxTekken- The shitty Bad Box Art Mega Man was added instead of any other respectable Mega Man incarnation.

All of these things happened shortly after Inafune left Capcom, it's not just a coincidence

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KlRBEH posted...

Never once did I say Capcom cancelled it because they "hate me", I said it was cancelled because Capcom did it to spite Inafune.

Okay, and sales had nothing to do with it at all. Okay dude.

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Xavier_On_High posted...

Never forget how they made Breath of Fire 6 a crappy, Japan-only mobile game that didn't have a Ryu protagonist and was shut down after just one year. And then they had the nerve to wonder why people weren't interested in the series any more.

Very true. BoF6 was a huge let down.

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More like, never forget how whiny the Mega Man fanbase was for years after the fact. Seriously you couldn't have a discussion about Mega Man, it was always "waaah Crapcom hates Mega Man!"

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It's a mix of Megaman Legends series not selling that well from the start and Keiji Inafune leaving, which left a bad taste in Capcoms mouth.

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They relied in on fan votes. The numbers must not have added up enough.

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Capcom does not hate Megaman as they released MM11 and MMX Legacy Games. Capcom has been releasing a ton of classic games actually but I'm sure these blind haters didn't even know this.

Ghost N Globins Remake
Capcom Arcade Stadium
Capcom Beat Em Up Bundle
Disney Collection
Onimusha Remaster

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If the series sold so bad, why did they even entertain the idea of 3?

Why did it get a second game?

WingsOfGood posted...

If the series sold so bad, why did they even entertain the idea of 3?

Why did it get a second game?

Because their dumbass thought it would some how still sell prolly. Capcom gets too big headed at times.

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Ozarhok posted...

More like, never forget how whiny the Mega Man fanbase was for years after the fact. Seriously you couldn't have a discussion about Mega Man, it was always "waaah Crapcom hates Mega Man!"

@Ozarhok
Wrong. They also cancelled that megaman mmo they were making and other megaman stuff.

Veggeta X posted...

Because their dumbass thought it would some how still sell prolly. Capcom gets too big headed at times.

So in other words it would have.

WingsOfGood posted...

So in other words it would have.

All statistics says 3 would have not sold well.

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Veggeta X posted...

All statistics says 3 would have not sold well.

It would sell as much as phoenix wright games they still make.

You clearly don't spend manpower on a demo and then not even demo the demo unless there's some backend shit going on. This isn't a case of an announcement of an announcement that ultimately led to nothing like a lot of planned games. They clearly had a planned path that was cut short by executive meddling for some reason or another.

WingsOfGood posted...

It would sell as much as phoenix wright games they still make.

I wish that was true

The Ace Attorney series has been well received by critics,[122][123][124][125][128][130] and has performed well commercially: in December 2009, it was Capcom's 9th-best-selling series of all time,[132] and in October 2010, they called it one of their "strongest intellectual properties", with more than 3.9 million units sold worldwide.[133] By December 2013, the series had sold over 5 million units.[134] In the United States, the first game became surprisingly successful, forcing Capcom to prepare at least three additional runs to meet the demand.[135] By June 2018, the series had sold over 6.7 million units.[136] As of March 31, 2021, the series has sold 8.1 million units worldwide.[137]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ace_Attorney#:~:text=By%20June%202018%2C%20the%20series,sold%208.1%20million%20units%20worldwide.

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How many copies did project x zone sale?
And it got a sequel.

Veggeta X posted...

I wish that was true

The Ace Attorney series has been well received by critics,[122][123][124][125][128][130] and has performed well commercially: in December 2009, it was Capcom's 9th-best-selling series of all time,[132] and in October 2010, they called it one of their "strongest intellectual properties", with more than 3.9 million units sold worldwide.[133] By December 2013, the series had sold over 5 million units.[134] In the United States, the first game became surprisingly successful, forcing Capcom to prepare at least three additional runs to meet the demand.[135] By June 2018, the series had sold over 6.7 million units.[136] As of March 31, 2021, the series has sold 8.1 million units worldwide.[137]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ace_Attorney#:~:text=By%20June%202018%2C%20the%20series,sold%208.1%20million%20units%20worldwide.

Those are the old ds ones.

I am talking the ones they don't even make a physical version of because the sales are too low.