Current Events > Why do we not care that we're all slowly gonna die from a climate apocalypse?

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meanwhile people would rather be worried about some stupid alien invasion or zombie apocalypse or WW3 because hey, those far-fetched hypothetical stuff sounds much cooler and more often portrayed in movies, than some lame ass heat wave burning us all to death.

My theory is that:

• governments ain't doing much to stop climate change since governments are run by old geezers over the age of 50-60 that know they'll probably die long before they see the climate apolcapyse anyway so they don't give a s****.
• The younger generation, esp. Gen Z, that care more about climate change cant old a thing since they aint running the government.
• generally, no one cares about climate change because it's not popularised in movies/tv/games. So it's not cool to portray and think about. There's awareness about it, yes, but not enough actual concern or action because we all hardly see the effects as significantly affecting our lives, yet.

Those of us in our 40s have been hearing the end is neigh most of our lives. It's hard to take timelines any more seriously than rapture predictions, even if you aren't a denier. It just feels like people panic to ignore the proposed fixes are big, expensive hard work, and major sacrifices others will be paying and the don't want to reciprocate for everything others will be doing of giving up.

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lightwarrior78 posted...

end is neigh

Truly the scariest thought is that Bronies will outlive us all.

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The people in power now will be dead by the time things get really bad, and have lived their lives believing they might be the last generation. They comforted themselves, in aggregate, by engaging in an orgy of short-sighted greed and tearing down(or trying to) anything that might survive them.

So serious question, and maybe no one knows because there's too much randomness and unknown exact science stuff.....

But, even if we implemented EVERYTHING that scientists have said would help/slow down climate change, how long is it postponed for? The planet always has always had periods of climate change so it's inevitable that it WILL happen. Do they think we would postpone it hundreds of years? Thousands?

This is more for my own curiosity.

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the end is neigh

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because people don't care about long term, nobody does, it's the reason people eat trash and think it's fine and they're healthy, also the reason most people spend their money while not investing any of it

WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...

So serious question, and maybe no one knows because there's too much randomness and unknown exact science stuff.....

But, even if we implemented EVERYTHING that scientists have said would help/slow down climate change, how long is it postponed for? The planet always has always had periods of climate change so it's inevitable that it WILL happen. Do they think we would postpone it hundreds of years? Thousands?

This is more for my own curiosity.

The planet natural cycles happens over the time of tens of thousands of years. This time it isn't. Humans discharged so much carbons in the past 100 years that it gives no leeway and time for creatures to adapt/evolve.

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We actively try to be bad at collective action in the USA. I'm sure that's true else where too

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apolloooo posted...

The planet natural cycles happens over the time of tens of thousands of years. This time it isn't. Humans discharged so much carbons in the past 100 years that it gives no leeway and time for creatures to adapt/evolve.

I know it's a random every XX,XXX to XX,XXX years it happens and even then it isn't like it's a set in stone time period for when these things happen. I wasn't sure when the last time it happened naturally was.

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Because it will require changed in lifestyle people dont want you make on a personal level and require changes in business practices which will likely make some people less money. Combine the two of them and you get a population resistant to change.

Balrog0 posted...

We actively try to be bad at collective action in the USA. I'm sure that's true else where too

collective action got this country a lot, we just have sucked at it during the lifetimes of the boomers. its only since then we have let the rich tear down everything labor ever gained while begging for more boot.

WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...

So serious question, and maybe no one knows because there's too much randomness and unknown exact science stuff.....

But, even if we implemented EVERYTHING that scientists have said would help/slow down climate change, how long is it postponed for? The planet always has always had periods of climate change so it's inevitable that it WILL happen. Do they think we would postpone it hundreds of years? Thousands?

This is more for my own curiosity.

Postphoning for what? It doesnt help.

Wanna boil down to the main cause...? It's humans. We outlived ourselves as the apex predator on this planet.

The only way to stop climate change is to stop the rate of resource expenditure and the only way to do that is to start killing off the human population in massive numbers.Things like diseases, disasters, genocides, wars all help in this cause... but obviously we cant face this hard crazy truth of becoming this cruel

Some social scientists like to be optimistic and argue the world population will actually decrease given the lower birth rates but I dont believe that.

Developing nations will continue with their absurdly high fertility rate and our capitalistic economy eventually dictates a widening income gap which means poor countries are just gonna get poorer and poorer over time anywau

Gonna be real with you tc, most zombies movies were better than Waterworld.

Red line must go up.

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Mackorov posted...

The only way to stop climate change is to stop the rate of resource expenditure and the only way to do that is to start killing off the human population in massive numbers.

This ain't it. There are billions of people who contribute basically nothing to the climate crisis, and a few companies and industries bombing the atmosphere with carbon.

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When is this climate apocalypse going to happen so I can put it on my calendar? Also I'm still waiting on actual proof that anything mankind does has significant impact on the climate.

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How proven do you need the greenhouse effect to be?

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I dont know the details/time frame

I think people are too busy working to care

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The key word is significant.

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What climate apocalypse? Antartica might be the new vacay hotspot and my house is gonna be beach front

I really have no qualms with this

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lightwarrior78 posted...

It just feels like people panic to ignore the proposed fixes are big, expensive hard work, and major sacrifices others will be paying and the don't want to reciprocate for everything others will be doing of giving up.

This.
Everyone freaks out about some damn thing, but then expects someone else to actually do something about it.

Because we're all gonna die anyway
Might as well take the planet with us
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awesome999 posted...

Might as well take the planet with us

The planet will be just fine. I think George Carlin pointed that out about forty years ago.

people care but nobody knows what to do because nobody is organized, everyone is tired, and everyone with any power whatsoever has a vested interest in the status quo. by the time the consequences are severe enough that people are willing to take serious action, it will be too late anyway. get ready for a whole lotta ecofacism, as the wealthy and powerful just let everyone else die to avoid changing their lavish lifestyles as much as possible and the only way to have access to a stable life as a poor is by serving power in their efforts to do that.

we're all gonna die one way or another so "eh".

Intro2Logic posted...

This ain't it. There are billions of people who contribute basically nothing to the climate crisis, and a few companies and industries bombing the atmosphere with carbon.

they're contributing simply by consuming goods and services. Look at how much of our products come with plastic. Or how much waste we produce per day. How much trees are cut down to produce that wooden chair you're sitting on right now. How much gas is released into the atmosphere by cars, how much fossil fuel is being depleted day-by-day from electricity etc...

You say 'a few companies' are doing it. That's simply because most of these source materials are done by big monopolies or ogligopolistic companies. End of the day, it all still boils down to us consuming the end-products and causing it all indirectly through ever-increasing demand. And for each new human baby born faster than someone dying, the demand increases. Exponentially.

Mackorov posted...

they're contributing simply by consuming goods and services.

This. Demand creates supply.

Mackorov posted...

And for each new human baby born faster than someone dying

Well... not anymore.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/22/world/global-population-shrinking.html

Questionmarktarius posted...

The planet will be just fine. I think George Carlin pointed that out about forty years ago.

Not if we don't do anything about the sun's that's about to explode on us in about 4 billion
Long ways away, sure but planet's fucked without us and it's fucked with us
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Questionmarktarius posted...

This. Demand creates supply.

The demand is overwhelmingly found in the global north

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Intro2Logic posted...

The demand is overwhelmingly found in the global north

...so is most of the not-frozen land.

Questionmarktarius posted...

...so is most of the not-frozen land.

That picture misrepresents Antartica(+Greenland) to be 50% of the world's landmass and you know it

Here's some actually relevant imagery https://ourworldindata.org/contributed-most-global-co2
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people tend to put things off til the last minute

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awesome999 posted...

and you know it

mercator sucks, yes.

Questionmarktarius posted...

This. Demand creates supply.

Well... not anymore.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/22/world/global-population-shrinking.html

It doesn't matter because as the article points out, people are living longer now.

We do, but half the country would rather own the libs than secure a safe place for their children and grandchildren to live in

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SSJPurple posted...

We do, but half the country would rather own the libs than secure a safe place for their children and grandchildren to live in

and the other half would rather get so obsessed with defeat trump they elect a corporate stooge who wont meaningfully address the climate whatsoever than secure a safe place for their children and grandchildren to live in.

old fuckers in power will be dead before it matters to them, so they dont give a damn. people my age dont have the power to change anything on a meaningful scale. and hell, even if the US and europe fixed their emmisions now we'd still be fucked because china and india dont give a fuck.

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