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GallisOTK
05/31/21 11:33:34 PM
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Put the DH in both leagues already
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furb
05/31/21 11:35:48 PM
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No

Designated batters for all position players instead.

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Starks
05/31/21 11:38:28 PM
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Even though NL pitchers get fat/talented as hell like Colon, I still want the AL to get rid of it.

Make everyone bat and learn the whole game.

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GallisOTK
05/31/21 11:40:13 PM
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Starks posted...
Even though NL pitchers get fat/talented as hell like Colon, I still want the AL to get rid of it.

Make everyone bat and learn the whole game.

95% of pitchers have no business hitting and it's an unnecessary injury risk for them to even try.
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furb
05/31/21 11:40:22 PM
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There are plenty of crummy short stops or second basemen that are defensive studs. Why should they have to bat?

I mean, DH is lame unless you're gonna take it to the logical conclusion. Best batters bat and only focus on that. Opposite true for fielders.

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GallisOTK
06/02/21 6:48:31 PM
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Put the DH in both leagues already
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inloveanddeath0
06/02/21 6:48:53 PM
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Guerrilla Soldier
06/02/21 6:49:28 PM
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if they remove the dh they should make the catcher bat in full gear

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Medussa
06/02/21 6:50:04 PM
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MartinBrodeur
06/02/21 6:51:59 PM
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Make it like football, have like 40+ rosters and have a part of the roster specialized on batting, defense and pitching

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GeneralKenobi85
06/02/21 6:54:11 PM
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It's more interesting having it both ways. That way in one league you get to see the DH and in the other you get to see those rare moments where the pitcher does something cool at the plate.

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Cornmuffins
06/02/21 6:55:34 PM
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No.
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brestugo
06/02/21 6:59:34 PM
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No.

Put headhunter chickenshit pitchers in the batters box and let them get a taste of their own medicine. That alone is worth it.

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GallisOTK
06/02/21 7:28:55 PM
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...
It's more interesting having it both ways. That way in one league you get to see the DH and in the other you get to see those rare moments where the pitcher does something cool at the plate.

NL teams have their ace pitchers facing more injury risks than AL teams do for their pitchers, plus AL teams can sign great hitters that can't field worth a shit to stick at DH while NL teams can't.

AL teams have a distinct and unfair competitive advantage over NL teams. Put the DH in both leagues already
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Medussa
06/02/21 7:32:21 PM
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NL teams have their ace pitchers facing more injury risks than AL teams do for their pitchers, plus AL teams can sign great hitters that can't field worth a shit to stick at DH while NL teams can't.

AL teams have a distinct and unfair competitive advantage over NL teams. Remove the DH already

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GallisOTK
06/02/21 7:34:01 PM
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Medussa posted...
Remove the DH already

See:

GallisOTK posted...
95% of pitchers have no business hitting and it's an unnecessary injury risk for them to even try.

Put the DH in both leagues already
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Medussa
06/02/21 7:35:11 PM
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maybe it's time they practiced more. a little less time working on their spin would probably do wonders for the league's batting average and strikeout rates.

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Medussa
06/02/21 7:36:00 PM
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besides, i can remember more pitchers getting hurt fighting watercoolers than in the batter's box.

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GallisOTK
06/02/21 7:39:47 PM
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Medussa posted...
besides, i can remember more pitchers getting hurt fighting watercoolers than in the batter's box.

Jack Flaherty just got placed on the IL yesterday after an oblique strain he suffered in the batter's box this past weekend. The Cardinals lost their ace and possibly their season to an injury that could have been easily avoided.

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Calwings
06/02/21 7:49:43 PM
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I agree, pitchers trying to hit and being a dead out 98% of the time is a relic of the past and needs to go away.
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GeneralKenobi85
06/02/21 7:50:57 PM
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I think the advantage the AL has with the DH is being overstated. Yes, it does give the AL teams an advantage when it comes to constructing their roster. But when competing against each other they obviously use the same rules. And yeah, the potential for injuries does suck, but players get injured all the time from doing mundane shit. It's an unfortunate reality of baseball.

The NL should adopt the DH. It does make sense for it to be universal. And I think it will be soon. But my ultimate preference would be to make no changes at all, since I like how the system works as it is.

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pastaman44
06/02/21 7:54:51 PM
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If the pitcher has to bat everyone should have to pitch. Every position should rotate each out for the entire game, like volleyball. Baseball games should have higher scores than football games and last 7 hours.

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Mike_Stanton
06/03/21 1:03:36 AM
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Absolutely not. The DH takes away all the strategy involved in deciding whether to send up a pinch hitter, and hand the ball to your bullpen or keep the pitcher in the game at the cost of having him bat. There's further strategy when it comes to making a pitching change in the middle of an inning because the manager has to be mindful of whether the pitcher is due up to bat in the next half inning. Wouldn't want to put in a reliever only to have to pinch hit for him immediately afterwards, so instead the manager has to execute a double switch. In other words, swap the new pitcher for a position player who is not due to bat soon, then swap his position with the previous pitcher, before finally subbing the previous pitcher for a new position player to bat in the upcoming number 9 hole. It's a technical substitution move that's completely absent from the AL game.

Questions for proponents of the DH...

1) Why not have a Designated Runner for catchers? Catchers can't run for shit and we also can't have them being stranded on base at the end of the inning when they should be in the dugout getting suited up for the next inning.

2) Why not just bat an 8 man lineup? If the issue is the fact that pitchers simply can't hit then why even bat a lineup of 9 hitters anyway? No reason to give more at-bats to those number 9 hitters when we can give more at-bats to those 1-2-3-4-5 hitters.

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Mike_Stanton
06/03/21 1:04:45 AM
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pastaman44 posted...
If the pitcher has to bat everyone should have to pitch.
The pitcher doesn't have to bat. You're allowed to use a pinch hitter.

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GallisOTK
06/04/21 9:36:42 PM
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Put the DH in both leagues already
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Medussa
06/04/21 9:37:26 PM
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how has this nonsense not purged yet?

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Delirious_Beard
06/04/21 9:43:25 PM
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the DH is just objectively better for the game. the way it's used by most teams these days is to rotate guys and give them days off in the field to keep them fresher over the course of the long season. can't think of a single compelling reason to not have it in both leagues other than the novelty factor

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UnholyMudcrab
06/04/21 9:43:43 PM
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Payzmaykr
06/04/21 9:47:16 PM
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People watch baseball for home runs, base hits, stolen bases, etc. I have said this for years and I agree. Pitchers cant hit and they need to make the game as exciting as possible. Nothing more boring than a pitching duel, IMO.
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Letron_James
06/04/21 9:50:34 PM
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Just fucking make it the same for both leagues or have a dh hit part time, I think it would be a cool idea if you're allowed to use a DH 2 times a game or something, that way it would always have to be back of the lineup and strategically picked when to actually hit

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GallisOTK
06/04/21 9:52:57 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Fuck the DH

Fuck pitchers getting injured doing something they have no business being forced to do in the first place.

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Medussa
06/04/21 9:55:02 PM
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they've gotten by just fine for 140 fucking years. it'll be ok.

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Cornmuffins
06/04/21 9:57:43 PM
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Payzmaykr posted...
Nothing more boring than a pitching duel, IMO.


That's a bad opinion.
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GallisOTK
06/04/21 9:57:50 PM
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Medussa posted...
they've gotten by just fine for 140 fucking years. it'll be ok.

"It's fine the way it always been" is such a shitty way to think. That's the same reason why MLB didn't have instant replay until 40 years after all the other major sports leagues, and it's part of the reason why they still insist on putting pitchers in the batter's box.

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KILBOTz
06/04/21 10:00:55 PM
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Pitchers batting is awesome.

Bartolo Colon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVFsq9FQBlc

Randy Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHm43mCcTjI

Felix Hernandez - get out the rye bread and mustard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi0UNUqnPBM

And Shohei Ohtani is arguably the most exciting player in baseball right now.

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MabusIncarnate
06/04/21 10:03:09 PM
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GallisOTK posted...
95% of pitchers have no business hitting and it's an unnecessary injury risk for them to even try.
100% agree. Nothing like watching a game, down by 1, bases loaded, and here comes the pitcher to bat. That's what I want to watch.

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GallisOTK
06/04/21 11:00:32 PM
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KILBOTz posted...
Pitchers batting is awesome.

It's awesome on very rare occasions, but most of the time it's awful and pointless and unnecessary. For every Ohtani or Bumgarner who can actually hit well, there's 50 others who are garbage and have no business with a bat in their hands.

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Cornmuffins
06/05/21 12:35:38 AM
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MabusIncarnate posted...

100% agree. Nothing like watching a game, down by 1, bases loaded, and here comes the pitcher to bat. That's what I want to watch.


Why not get a pinch hitter, hope for the best, and put a new guy in next inning if necessary

idk seems a lot more interesting
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theAteam
06/05/21 12:39:52 AM
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I mean Ohtani is as interesting as he is because of the status of pitchers which is a value in itself, but also the NL by and large can't deny the garbage at bat the pitcher provides.

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Mike_Stanton
06/05/21 7:44:34 AM
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GallisOTK posted...
Fuck pitchers getting injured doing something they have no business being forced to do in the first place.
They're not forced to do it. The manager can send up a pinch hitter if he decides he values a better bat in the moment over keeping his pitcher's arm in the game.

Cornmuffins posted...
Why not get a pinch hitter, hope for the best, and put a new guy in next inning if necessary

idk seems a lot more interesting
Exactly.

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GeneralKenobi85
06/05/21 12:32:28 PM
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Cornmuffins posted...
Why not get a pinch hitter, hope for the best, and put a new guy in next inning if necessary

idk seems a lot more interesting
I like the strategy of pinch hitting but I also prefer seeing a pitcher go as long as possible. I imagine most baseball fans would prefer to see their starter pitch 7+ innings. So of course saying the pitcher isn't forced to bat is technically true. But the result is a larger number of pitchers used per game.

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Damn_Underscore
06/05/21 12:33:43 PM
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I disagree. Pitchers hitting adds an interesting dynamic. But I don't want to remove it from the AL because it works in the AL. Just leave it how it is.

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