Poll of the Day > Fauci's emails really showed how hypocritical he was.

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Mead 06/05/21 1:08:43 AM #102:	OhhhJa posted... I wasn't the one who brought trump into random comments about fauci congrats --- YOU control the numbers of leches. -Sal Vulcano <cite>Mead posted [p:954663748] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>I wasn't the one who brought trump into random comments about fauci</quote> congrats </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 06/05/21 1:38:42 AM #103:	fauci changing his mind with new data to make. things stricter = fine. trump doing the same thing = he is getting people killed!! --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:954664279] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>fauci changing his mind with new data to make. things stricter = fine. trump doing the same thing = he is getting people killed!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joe_Biden 06/05/21 11:54:26 AM #104:	OhhhJa posted... No but I have hindsight and I can determine that others in his field of expertise handled it better and seemed to demonstrate a lot more foresight It seems that people always wanna make this a trump or fauci thing... but is it so crazy to suggest that both of them maybe shat the bed? weird how all these other experts in the field said to listen to fauci then it's almost like fauci did the normal thing of changing his stance on it after learning more and more about it y'know, literally one of the cornerstones of learning and is something you do every single day --- 46th President of the United States of America. <cite>Joe_Biden posted [p:954673525] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>No but I have hindsight and I can determine that others in his field of expertise handled it better and seemed to demonstrate a lot more foresight It seems that people always wanna make this a trump or fauci thing... but is it so crazy to suggest that both of them maybe shat the bed?</quote>weird how all these other experts in the field said to listen to fauci then it's almost like fauci did the normal thing of changing his stance on it after learning more and more about it y'know, literally one of the cornerstones of learning and is something you do every single day </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 06/05/21 12:04:23 PM #105:	OhhhJa posted... The very first one that comes to mind though is fauci proclaiming that nobody needs to worry about covid and then it wasn't a threat at all. Even if knowledge of covid was limited then, it's not really a responsible public statement to make about an unknown virus that's going around. I'd agree, though depending on when exactly that was, I could see it being a legitimate tactic for trying to prevent panic before the thing had cemented itself as a threat that actually required a public response. OhhhJa posted... I think it was a few months later he claimed that cruises were totally cool. Also pretty questionable, though not really a significant enough issue to call that "handling the pandemic poorly." By and large, cruises result in isolated outbreaks, particularly where the ships tend to be kept from docking if the virus is making its rounds on them. OhhhJa posted... Then there was telling people that masks are useless only to turn around and claim that they are absolutely mandatory when leaving your house. This has already been covered in considerable detail. Citing this as hypocrisy or mismanagement is a gross misunderstanding of science and a failure to comprehend just how much one is benefiting from hindsight. OhhhJa posted... Then there was the random suggestion (based clearly on some senile thought he had on the s**ter rather than any kind of scientific study) to double mask early this year https://www.albertahealthservices.ca/assets/info/ppih/if-ppih-covid-19-sag-double-masking-improved-fit-rapid-review.pdf First google result for "Scientific basis for double masking," from mid-March (which I believe was shortly after the recommendation started being made). Skimming the summary, it looks like the CDC had some experimental data that suggested it could help, though it wasn't conclusive that it would reduce transmission rates. As such, I'm guessing the logic was that it was a trivial additional precaution to take (most people already had more than one mask available), so if there was any chance of it helping, it was worth recommending. I know you're eager to put the guy down and you just kind of latched on to that as seeming silly, but you really should have done some actual research before assuming there was no research-based reason for the suggestion. It literally took me longer to type that paragraph than to find something concrete. OhhhJa posted... Oh, not to mention fauci initially stated travel bans were completely off the table before doing one of many 180s. Nothing wrong with making changes when new data becomes available but a lot of this was beyond mere incompetence. Yeah, pretty much everyone screwed up the travel ban thing. I get not wanting to make knee-jerk xenophobic reactions, especially where anti-Asian racism was already ramping up quite terribly even before the virus started to seriously spread beyond China's borders and travel bans would be seen as vindicating that hatred, but the delays in implementing bans have made things worse. I'd blame that more on the racism than anything else (don't need to act to prevent racism if there's no racism in the first place, after all), but regardless, it could have been handled better. That said, I think a lot of people overestimate both the simplicity and effectiveness of travel bans. It's not remotely possible to just say "nobody comes here from this country." That would have more dire economic consequences than a decade of lockdowns like the ones we've seen over the past year, due to how inextricably commerce depends on international travel. That means any travel ban needs to include a litany of exceptions, the nuances of which were very much not clear at the beginning of 2020. As soon as you start making exceptions, though, you get cases slipping through the cracks, and unless you have already have precautions in place to keep those cases from spreading (and given how reluctant the US citizenry has been to adopt such precautions with* the virus already running rampant, good luck implementing them before there are any cases), those are going to turn into outbreaks that continue to spread. Shutting the borders earlier would have helped, but at best, I wouldn't expect it to do much more than delay the first wave by a couple months. In a country that had embraced precautions instead of fighting them at every turn (such as New Zealand), that would have made a world of difference because the added time to prepare would have ensured that would-be seed cases wouldn't turn into anything uncontrollable. In the US, though? It'd likely just have shifted the timeline forward a bit. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:954673815] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>The very first one that comes to mind though is fauci proclaiming that nobody needs to worry about covid and then it wasn't a threat at all. Even if knowledge of covid was limited then, it's not really a responsible public statement to make about an unknown virus that's going around.</quote> I'd agree, though depending on when exactly that was, I could see it being a legitimate tactic for trying to prevent panic before the thing had cemented itself as a threat that actually required a public response. OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>I think it was a few months later he claimed that cruises were totally cool.</quote> Also pretty questionable, though not really a significant enough issue to call that "handling the pandemic poorly." By and large, cruises result in isolated outbreaks, particularly where the ships tend to be kept from docking if the virus is making its rounds on them. OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>Then there was telling people that masks are useless only to turn around and claim that they are absolutely mandatory when leaving your house.</quote> This has already been covered in considerable detail. Citing this as hypocrisy or mismanagement is a gross misunderstanding of science and a failure to comprehend just how much one is benefiting from hindsight. OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>Then there was the random suggestion (based clearly on some senile thought he had on the s***ter rather than any kind of scientific study) to double mask early this year</quote> https://www.albertahealthservices.ca/assets/info/ppih/if-ppih-covid-19-sag-double-masking-improved-fit-rapid-review.pdf First google result for "Scientific basis for double masking," from mid-March (which I believe was shortly after the recommendation started being made). Skimming the summary, it looks like the CDC had some experimental data that suggested it could help, though it wasn't conclusive that it would reduce transmission rates. As such, I'm guessing the logic was that it was a trivial additional precaution to take (most people already had more than one mask available), so if there was any chance of it helping, it was worth recommending. I know you're eager to put the guy down and you just kind of latched on to that as seeming silly, but you really should have done some actual research before assuming there was no research-based reason for the suggestion. It literally took me longer to type that paragraph than to find something concrete. OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>Oh, not to mention fauci initially stated travel bans were completely off the table before doing one of many 180s. Nothing wrong with making changes when new data becomes available but a lot of this was beyond mere incompetence.</quote> Yeah, pretty much everyone screwed up the travel ban thing. I get not wanting to make knee-jerk xenophobic reactions, especially where anti-Asian racism was already ramping up quite terribly even before the virus started to seriously spread beyond China's borders and travel bans would be seen as vindicating that hatred, but the delays in implementing bans have made things worse. I'd blame that more on the racism than anything else (don't need to act to prevent racism if there's no racism in the first place, after all), but regardless, it could have been handled better. That said, I think a lot of people overestimate both the simplicity and effectiveness of travel bans. It's not remotely possible to just say "nobody comes here from this country." That would have more dire economic consequences than a decade of lockdowns like the ones we've seen over the past year, due to how inextricably commerce depends on international travel. That means any travel ban needs to include a litany of exceptions, the nuances of which were very much not clear at the beginning of 2020. As soon as you start making exceptions, though, you get cases slipping through the cracks, and unless you have already have precautions in place to keep those cases from spreading (and given how reluctant the US citizenry has been to adopt such precautions with the virus already running rampant, good luck implementing them before there are any cases), those are going to turn into outbreaks that continue to spread. Shutting the borders earlier would have helped, but at best, I wouldn't expect it to do much more than delay the first wave by a couple months. In a country that had embraced precautions instead of fighting them at every turn (such as New Zealand), that would have made a world of difference because the added time to prepare would have ensured that would-be seed cases wouldn't turn into anything uncontrollable. In the US, though? It'd likely just have shifted the timeline forward a bit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 06/05/21 1:17:25 PM #106:	breathing through one mask is annoying enough, less air and makes things far hotter (my resting temp can easily be in the 90's on a 40 degree day) can't imagine wearing two... I wear a neck gaiter as a mask at work and the store. it's only up while inside. --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:954675894] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>breathing through one mask is annoying enough, less air and makes things far hotter (my resting temp can easily be in the 90's on a 40 degree day) can't imagine wearing two... I wear a neck gaiter as a mask at work and the store. it's only up while inside.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/05/21 1:23:29 PM #107:	Krazy_Kirby posted... my resting temp can easily be in the 90's this tells you EVERYTHING you need to know about @Krazy_Kirby --- YOU control the numbers of leches. -Sal Vulcano <cite>Mead posted [p:954676045] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>Krazy_Kirby posted... </cite> <quote>my resting temp can easily be in the 90's</quote> this tells you EVERYTHING you need to know about @Krazy_Kirby </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 06/05/21 1:55:18 PM #108:	Mead posted... this tells you EVERYTHING you need to know about Krazy_Kirby It really does. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:954676935] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>this tells you EVERYTHING you need to know about Krazy_Kirby</quote> It really does. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/05/21 2:46:53 PM #109:	OhhhJa posted... I don't know. Maybe worship isn't the right word for it. What do you call it when someone refuses to believe an authority figure could be wrong about anything to the point that they get unreasonably angry or argumentative at the mere suggestion they could've been wrong? Anti vaccine. adjl posted... It really does. I don't know what that means exactly. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:954678276] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote> I don't know. Maybe worship isn't the right word for it. What do you call it when someone refuses to believe an authority figure could be wrong about anything to the point that they get unreasonably angry or argumentative at the mere suggestion they could've been wrong? </quote> Anti vaccine. adjl posted...</cite> <quote> It really does. </quote> I don't know what that means exactly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 06/05/21 3:12:29 PM #110:	Revelation34 posted... I don't know what that means exactly. He's saying that his resting temp is in the 90's as though that's a particularly unusual thing. That rather succinctly demonstrates his tendency to spout off the occasional bit of sciency knowledge he's got without considering or understanding the context or implications of it, often using it to arrive at completely ridiculous conclusions. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:954678968] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>I don't know what that means exactly.</quote> He's saying that his resting temp is in the 90's as though that's a particularly unusual thing. That rather succinctly demonstrates his tendency to spout off the occasional bit of sciency knowledge he's got without considering or understanding the context or implications of it, often using it to arrive at completely ridiculous conclusions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadowsword87 06/05/21 3:13:55 PM #111:	adjl posted... He's saying that his resting temp is in the 90's as though that's a particularly unusual thing. That rather succinctly demonstrates his tendency to spout off the occasional bit of sciency knowledge he's got without considering or understanding the context or implications of it, often using it to arrive at completely ridiculous conclusions. Or his "resting temperature" is 94 and he's dying inside. <cite>shadowsword87 posted [p:954679003] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>He's saying that his resting temp is in the 90's as though that's a particularly unusual thing. That rather succinctly demonstrates his tendency to spout off the occasional bit of sciency knowledge he's got without considering or understanding the context or implications of it, often using it to arrive at completely ridiculous conclusions.</quote> Or his "resting temperature" is 94 and he's dying inside. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OrangeDawn 06/05/21 3:44:15 PM #112:	Krazy_Kirby posted... my resting temp can easily be in the 90's holy shit lmaoooooo --- 3DS Friend Code: 3308-5843-0863 Town: Virginia <cite>OrangeDawn posted [p:954679769] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>Krazy_Kirby posted... </cite> <quote>my resting temp can easily be in the 90's</quote>holy shit lmaoooooo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 06/05/21 3:54:56 PM #113:	They say and do what theyre told, just like anyone else who wants to keep their job. <cite>zebatov posted [p:954680046] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>They say and do what theyre told, just like anyone else who wants to keep their job. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/05/21 4:43:09 PM #114:	zebatov posted... They say and do what theyre told, just like anyone else who wants to keep their job. Vaccines are bad. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:954681299] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>zebatov posted...</cite> <quote>They say and do what theyre told, just like anyone else who wants to keep their job. </quote> Vaccines are bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 06/05/21 7:17:41 PM #115:	OrangeDawn posted... holy shit lmaoooooo we get temperature checked at work, 40 degree weather and my temp was 97/98. --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:954685399] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>OrangeDawn posted...</cite> <quote> holy shit lmaoooooo </quote> we get temperature checked at work, 40 degree weather and my temp was 97/98.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/05/21 7:19:47 PM #116:	Krazy_Kirby posted... we get temperature checked at work, 40 degree weather and my temp was 97/98. so either it was Fahrenheit and you have totally normal temperature for a human or it was Celsius and you literally died since all the enzymes in your cells broke down --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:954685456] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>Krazy_Kirby posted... </cite> <quote>we get temperature checked at work, 40 degree weather and my temp was 97/98.</quote> so either it was Fahrenheit and you have totally normal temperature for a human or it was Celsius and you literally died since all the enzymes in your cells broke down </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MasterChiefer 06/05/21 7:20:22 PM #117:	Krazy_Kirby posted... we get temperature checked at work, 40 degree weather and my temp was 97/98. I like how youre doubling down on this. <cite>MasterChiefer posted [p:954685474] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>Krazy_Kirby posted... </cite> <quote>we get temperature checked at work, 40 degree weather and my temp was 97/98.</quote>I like how youre doubling down on this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 06/05/21 7:23:36 PM #118:	MasterChiefer posted... I like how youre doubling down on this. I've been on the temp check. people don't have high temps at 3am in the winter. I'm not saying I have to be walking around for it to be high, I can be sitting outside in winter weather and still be warm... in shorts and a t-shirt --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:954685582] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>MasterChiefer posted...</cite> <quote> I like how youre doubling down on this. </quote> I've been on the temp check. people don't have high temps at 3am in the winter. I'm not saying I have to be walking around for it to be high, I can be sitting outside in winter weather and still be warm... in shorts and a t-shirt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/05/21 7:25:13 PM #119:	Krazy_Kirby posted... I've been on the temp check. people don't have high temps at 3am in the winter. https://www.webmd.com/first-aid/normal-body-temperature#1-2 --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:954685632] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote> I've been on the temp check. people don't have high temps at 3am in the winter.</quote> https://www.webmd.com/first-aid/normal-body-temperature#1-2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 06/05/21 7:27:57 PM #120:	adjl posted... He's saying that his resting temp is in the 90's as though that's a particularly unusual thing. That rather succinctly demonstrates his tendency to spout off the occasional bit of sciency knowledge he's got without considering or understanding the context or implications of it, often using it to arrive at completely ridiculous conclusions. says the guy who thinks rushed vaccines will have nothing wrong, and obviously somehow had years of research. --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:954685709] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted...</cite> <quote> He's saying that his resting temp is in the 90's as though that's a particularly unusual thing. That rather succinctly demonstrates his tendency to spout off the occasional bit of sciency knowledge he's got without considering or understanding the context or implications of it, often using it to arrive at completely ridiculous conclusions. </quote> says the guy who thinks rushed vaccines will have nothing wrong, and obviously somehow had years of research.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/05/21 7:32:24 PM #121:	Krazy_Kirby posted... people don't have high temps at 3am in the winter. so you have no idea how homeostasis works, cool --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:954685853] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>Krazy_Kirby posted... </cite> <quote>people don't have high temps at 3am in the winter.</quote> so you have no idea how homeostasis works, cool </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 06/05/21 7:34:28 PM #122:	Krazy_Kirby posted... my resting temp can easily be in the 90's lmfao how do you think body temperature works? --- hoes mad <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:954685921] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>Krazy_Kirby posted... </cite> <quote>my resting temp can easily be in the 90's</quote>lmfao how do you think body temperature works? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 06/05/21 8:40:54 PM #123:	Krazy_Kirby posted... we get temperature checked at work, 40 degree weather and my temp was 97/98. That is indeed how body temperature works. Dropping below ~95-96 in above-freezing weather would be a sign of extreme metabolic issues. Krazy_Kirby posted... I've been on the temp check. people don't have high temps at 3am in the winter. If you're taking people's temperatures so soon after they come in that they're slightly hypothermic in mildly wintry weather, you're taking their temperatures wrong. Presuming you're using an IR thermometer, people will often show lower temperatures than normal due to reduced peripheral circulation after coming in from the cold, so you need to give them a chance to warm back up in order to get an accurate read of their body temperature. Otherwise, you risk having the cold weather mask an actual fever, defeating the whole point of the temp check. Krazy_Kirby posted... says the guy who thinks rushed vaccines will have nothing wrong, At no point have I ever said that there's no chance of something being wrong with them. Only that the data that has emerged from the testing that has been conducted (testing which, to remind you yet again, has been no less rigorous than the standards applied to every other drug approved for use in the US) indicates that they do not pose a greater risk than Covid does. That belief is quite well-supported by science, thanks to all of the scientific data supporting it. Krazy_Kirby posted... and obviously somehow had years of research. It is a fact that people have been researching mRNA therapies since the early 90's. I don't know why you're taking issue with that, but you're not going to make it any less true by attempting to deny it. Obviously the Covid vaccine itself hasn't been in development for longer than Covid has existed, but there's also literally nobody claiming that it has been. If you think people are claiming that, you're grossly misunderstanding what's being said. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:954687756] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>Krazy_Kirby posted... </cite> <quote>we get temperature checked at work, 40 degree weather and my temp was 97/98.</quote> That is indeed how body temperature works. Dropping below ~95-96 in above-freezing weather would be a sign of extreme metabolic issues. Krazy_Kirby posted... </cite> <quote>I've been on the temp check. people don't have high temps at 3am in the winter.</quote> If you're taking people's temperatures so soon after they come in that they're slightly hypothermic in mildly wintry weather, you're taking their temperatures wrong. Presuming you're using an IR thermometer, people will often show lower temperatures than normal due to reduced peripheral circulation after coming in from the cold, so you need to give them a chance to warm back up in order to get an accurate read of their body temperature. Otherwise, you risk having the cold weather mask an actual fever, defeating the whole point of the temp check. Krazy_Kirby posted... </cite> <quote>says the guy who thinks rushed vaccines will have nothing wrong,</quote> At no point have I ever said that there's no chance of something being wrong with them. Only that the data that has emerged from the testing that has been conducted (testing which, to remind you yet again, has been no less rigorous than the standards applied to every other drug approved for use in the US) indicates that they do not pose a greater risk than Covid does. That belief is quite well-supported by science, thanks to all of the scientific data supporting it. Krazy_Kirby posted... </cite> <quote>and obviously somehow had years of research.</quote> It is a fact that people have been researching mRNA therapies since the early 90's. I don't know why you're taking issue with that, but you're not going to make it any less true by attempting to deny it. Obviously the Covid vaccine itself hasn't been in development for longer than Covid has existed, but there's also literally nobody claiming that it has been. If you think people are claiming that, you're grossly misunderstanding what's being said. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/05/21 8:56:52 PM #124:	Krazy_Kirby posted... says the guy who thinks rushed vaccines will have nothing wrong, and obviously somehow had years of research. Yeah all the COVID vaccines clearly cause miscarriages. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:954688168] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote> says the guy who thinks rushed vaccines will have nothing wrong, and obviously somehow had years of research.</quote> Yeah all the COVID vaccines clearly cause miscarriages.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 06/06/21 7:27:41 PM #125:	Krazy_Kirby posted... trump doing the same thing = he is getting people killed!! Trump did not do the same thing. --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:954718416] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>Krazy_Kirby posted... </cite> <quote>trump doing the same thing = he is getting people killed!!</quote>Trump did not do the same thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OrangeDawn 06/06/21 7:43:01 PM #126:	Krazy_Kirby posted... we get temperature checked at work, 40 degree weather and my temp was 97/98. --- 3DS Friend Code: 3308-5843-0863 Town: Virginia <cite>OrangeDawn posted [p:954718892] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>Krazy_Kirby posted... </cite> <quote>we get temperature checked at work, 40 degree weather and my temp was 97/98.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/06/21 7:56:40 PM #127:	OrangeDawn posted... @Krazy_Kirby what say you --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:954719354] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>OrangeDawn posted... </cite> <quote></quote> @Krazy_Kirby what say you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/06/21 7:57:25 PM #128:	He won't say anything since he ignored it when I already posted it. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:954719375] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>He won't say anything since he ignored it when I already posted it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 06/06/21 8:14:21 PM #129:	adjl posted... It is a fact that people have been researching mRNA therapies since the early 90's I'll ask this then. Why has nobody approved any mRNA vaccine up until this very one then? 30 plus years and nothing... and then finally we rush out an emergency usage one? <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:954719884] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>It is a fact that people have been researching mRNA therapies since the early 90's</quote>I'll ask this then. Why has nobody approved any mRNA vaccine up until this very one then? 30 plus years and nothing... and then finally we rush out an emergency usage one? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 06/06/21 8:16:49 PM #130:	Also, fun random fact. I don't think most people realize that Moderna is modeRNA. They rebranded because they thought it sounded too off-putting. I'm not putting out conspiracy theories based on that. Just an interesting bit of trivia <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:954719961] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>Also, fun random fact. I don't think most people realize that Moderna is modeRNA. They rebranded because they thought it sounded too off-putting. I'm not putting out conspiracy theories based on that. Just an interesting bit of trivia </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/06/21 8:22:58 PM #131:	OhhhJa posted... I'll ask this then. Why has nobody approved any mRNA vaccine up until this very one then? 30 plus years and nothing... and then finally we rush out an emergency usage one? golly I wonder if it had anything to do with the once in a century pandemic that was quickly making its way across the world --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:954720161] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>I'll ask this then. Why has nobody approved any mRNA vaccine up until this very one then? 30 plus years and nothing... and then finally we rush out an emergency usage one?</quote> golly I wonder if it had anything to do with the once in a century pandemic that was quickly making its way across the world </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 06/06/21 8:23:42 PM #132:	Mead posted... golly I wonder if it had anything to do with the once in a century pandemic that was quickly making its way across the world Why did it have to be mRNA? <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:954720190] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>golly I wonder if it had anything to do with the once in a century pandemic that was quickly making its way across the world </quote>Why did it have to be mRNA? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/06/21 8:25:02 PM #133:	OhhhJa posted... Also, fun random fact. I don't think most people realize that Moderna is modeRNA. They rebranded because they thought it sounded too off-putting. I'm not putting out conspiracy theories based on that. Just an interesting bit of trivia OhhhJa 6/6/2021 5:16:49 PM OhhhJa posted... Why did it have to be mRNA? OhhhJa 6/6/2021 5:23:42 PM Lol. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:954720233] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote>Also, fun random fact. I don't think most people realize that Moderna is modeRNA. They rebranded because they thought it sounded too off-putting. I'm not putting out conspiracy theories based on that. Just an interesting bit of trivia </quote> OhhhJa 6/6/2021 5:16:49 PM OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote> Why did it have to be mRNA? </quote> OhhhJa 6/6/2021 5:23:42 PM Lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 06/06/21 8:25:20 PM #134:	You can take the Chinese vaccines if you'd prefer one that's not an mRNA vaccine lol --- https://imgur.com/1XbPahR <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:954720242] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>You can take the Chinese vaccines if you'd prefer one that's not an mRNA vaccine lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 06/06/21 8:28:16 PM #135:	Blightzkrieg posted... You can take the Chinese vaccines if you'd prefer one that's not an mRNA vaccine lol Well, Johnson and Johnson isn't mRNA. But Johnson amd Johnson also willingly sold cancer causing baby powder for years so who should i trust really? <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:954720314] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>Blightzkrieg posted... </cite> <quote>You can take the Chinese vaccines if you'd prefer one that's not an mRNA vaccine lol</quote>Well, Johnson and Johnson isn't mRNA. But Johnson amd Johnson also willingly sold cancer causing baby powder for years so who should i trust really? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/06/21 8:38:34 PM #136:	OhhhJa posted... Well, Johnson and Johnson isn't mRNA. But Johnson amd Johnson also willingly sold cancer causing baby powder for years so who should i trust really? The only reason to avoid it is because it caused blood clots in a lot of people. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:954720617] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted...</cite> <quote> Well, Johnson and Johnson isn't mRNA. But Johnson amd Johnson also willingly sold cancer causing baby powder for years so who should i trust really? </quote> The only reason to avoid it is because it caused blood clots in a lot of people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/06/21 8:42:48 PM #137:	OhhhJa posted... Why did it have to be mRNA? look into it and let us know what you find out --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:954720749] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>Why did it have to be mRNA?</quote> look into it and let us know what you find out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/06/21 8:43:45 PM #138:	OhhhJa posted... Well, Johnson and Johnson isn't mRNA. But Johnson amd Johnson also willingly sold cancer causing baby powder for years so who should i trust really? Your own common sense and what you consider to be trusted sources where you can verify claims --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:954720773] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>Well, Johnson and Johnson isn't mRNA. But Johnson amd Johnson also willingly sold cancer causing baby powder for years so who should i trust really?</quote> Your own common sense and what you consider to be trusted sources where you can verify claims </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 06/06/21 8:51:15 PM #139:	Revelation34 posted... The only reason to avoid it is because it caused blood clots in a lot of people. That was a non story. It was only like 6 people. There have been a lot of reported deaths and injuries associated with Pfizer and Moderna. The debate is about whether or not it was caused by the vaccine or comorbitidies with people. Obviously, when a huge number of people are vaccinated, especially older people, you will have a lot of deaths that are just bad timing <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:954720967] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>The only reason to avoid it is because it caused blood clots in a lot of people.</quote>That was a non story. It was only like 6 people. There have been a lot of reported deaths and injuries associated with Pfizer and Moderna. The debate is about whether or not it was caused by the vaccine or comorbitidies with people. Obviously, when a huge number of people are vaccinated, especially older people, you will have a lot of deaths that are just bad timing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 06/06/21 8:54:14 PM #140:	Mead posted... Your own common sense and what you consider to be trusted sources where you can verify claims Why is it so crazy to think these giant for profit pharmaceutical companies could lie to you for massive profit? Especially when they were given indemnity <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:954721066] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>Your own common sense and what you consider to be trusted sources where you can verify claims</quote>Why is it so crazy to think these giant for profit pharmaceutical companies could lie to you for massive profit? Especially when they were given indemnity </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 06/07/21 11:20:43 PM #141:	OhhhJa posted... I'll ask this then. Why has nobody approved any mRNA vaccine up until this very one then? 30 plus years and nothing... and then finally we rush out an emergency usage one? Research into practical therapies has really only started coming to fruition in the last 5-10 years, and with unproven technology, it's difficult to get buy-in for specific therapies when more reliable (as in, they've seen success before, not necessarily that they're safer or more effective) alternatives exist. The pandemic has presented a high-pressure situation where the market is more than big enough for several alternatives, though, so that competition has stopped being relevant and the technology is getting some time in the spotlight. OhhhJa posted... Why did it have to be mRNA? mRNA was an especially good fit for this pandemic situation because all they needed to get started was the virus' genome, which was fully sequenced almost as soon as the outbreak was identified. Other types of vaccines rely on having viral samples to work with, which meant they were a few months behind. It didn't have to be mRNA (hence not all vaccines on the market are), but mRNA candidates were some of the first ones out the door because of that head start. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:954761136] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>I'll ask this then. Why has nobody approved any mRNA vaccine up until this very one then? 30 plus years and nothing... and then finally we rush out an emergency usage one?</quote> Research into practical therapies has really only started coming to fruition in the last 5-10 years, and with unproven technology, it's difficult to get buy-in for specific therapies when more reliable (as in, they've seen success before, not necessarily that they're safer or more effective) alternatives exist. The pandemic has presented a high-pressure situation where the market is more than big enough for several alternatives, though, so that competition has stopped being relevant and the technology is getting some time in the spotlight. OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>Why did it have to be mRNA?</quote> mRNA was an especially good fit for this pandemic situation because all they needed to get started was the virus' genome, which was fully sequenced almost as soon as the outbreak was identified. Other types of vaccines rely on having viral samples to work with, which meant they were a few months behind. It didn't have to be mRNA (hence not all vaccines on the market are), but mRNA candidates were some of the first ones out the door because of that head start. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/08/21 1:03:50 AM #142:	OhhhJa posted... Why is it so crazy to think these giant for profit pharmaceutical companies could lie to you for massive profit? Especially when they were given indemnity despite their best efforts there would be some evidence of something so heinous and there would certainly be people blowing the whistle about it --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:954763721] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>Why is it so crazy to think these giant for profit pharmaceutical companies could lie to you for massive profit? Especially when they were given indemnity</quote> despite their best efforts there would be some evidence of something so heinous and there would certainly be people blowing the whistle about it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 06/08/21 2:32:09 AM #143:	I know this is a joke topic, but I've always found the Hillary email drama so insanely hypocritical. Look at all the folks that have had piles of emails leaked and used personal email accounts.... --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:954765220] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>I know this is a joke topic, but I've always found the Hillary email drama so insanely hypocritical. Look at all the folks that have had piles of emails leaked and used personal email accounts.... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 06/08/21 2:34:23 AM #144:	also lmfao at people still thinking that the entire scientific community could be duped by some fucking overlord vaccine conspiracy horseshit. big pharma is separate from how science actually works. go ahead and criticize people profiting off of vaccines like Bill Gates, just don't get into conspiracy land. vaccines are 2% of profits for big pharma. they're nothing, and most people are getting them free, thankfully. criticize big pharma for insulin prices. insulin still fucking works, and when a new development occurs in that field, we're thankful for it instead of getting distracted by conspiracies that aren't too difficult to show they aren't true. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:954765257] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>also lmfao at people still thinking that the entire scientific community could be duped by some fucking overlord vaccine conspiracy horseshit. big pharma is separate from how science actually works. go ahead and criticize people profiting off of vaccines like Bill Gates, just don't get into conspiracy land. vaccines are 2% of profits for big pharma. they're nothing, and most people are getting them free, thankfully. criticize big pharma for insulin prices. insulin still fucking works, and when a new development occurs in that field, we're thankful for it instead of getting distracted by conspiracies that aren't too difficult to show they aren't true. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 06/08/21 2:38:23 AM #145:	OhhhJa posted... I'll ask this then. Why has nobody approved any mRNA vaccine up until this very one then? 30 plus years and nothing... and then finally we rush out an emergency usage one? https://tinyurl.com/ba683wp9 --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:954765314] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>I'll ask this then. Why has nobody approved any mRNA vaccine up until this very one then? 30 plus years and nothing... and then finally we rush out an emergency usage one?</quote>https://tinyurl.com/ba683wp9 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JixHedgehog 06/08/21 3:04:09 AM #146:	Back in March Fauci said something like it couldn't have been man made and was likely to be a animal to human virus Everyone bashed the former President who said it came from a lab, and now that he's gone, everyone's slowly changing their tune --- Not changing my sig until Nintendo announces the Switch XL 1/12/2017 <cite>JixHedgehog posted [p:954765659] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>Back in March Fauci said something like it couldn't have been man made and was likely to be a animal to human virus Everyone bashed the former President who said it came from a lab, and now that he's gone, everyone's slowly changing their tune </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 06/08/21 1:19:28 PM #148:	--- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:954777618] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 06/08/21 2:30:14 PM #149:	JixHedgehog posted... Back in March Fauci said something like it couldn't have been man made and was likely to be a animal to human virus Everyone bashed the former President who said it came from a lab, and now that he's gone, everyone's slowly changing their tune Nobody is 'changing their tune' in the scientific community or in the small portion of the population that is scientifically literate. It has always been a small possibility, but the evidence has constantly piled up in regards to 'animal to human', not 'man made', sorry. Scientists state small possibilities - woo peddlers jump on it. and sorry, but intelligence that 4 Chinese people were sick in the Wuhan hospital does not exactly point to a cover-up lmfao. US intelligence found records of 4 sick people, holy shit....the same genius intelligence that couldn't add up 2 and 2 before Jan 6th? https://tinyurl.com/4rhfu39a --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:954779985] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>JixHedgehog posted... </cite> <quote>Back in March Fauci said something like it couldn't have been man made and was likely to be a animal to human virus Everyone bashed the former President who said it came from a lab, and now that he's gone, everyone's slowly changing their tune</quote>Nobody is 'changing their tune' in the scientific community or in the small portion of the population that is scientifically literate. It has always been a small possibility, but the evidence has constantly piled up in regards to 'animal to human', not 'man made', sorry. Scientists state small possibilities - woo peddlers jump on it. and sorry, but intelligence that 4 Chinese people were sick in the Wuhan hospital does not exactly point to a cover-up lmfao. US intelligence found records of 4 sick people, holy shit....the same genius intelligence that couldn't add up 2 and 2 before Jan 6th? https://tinyurl.com/4rhfu39a </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 06/08/21 8:16:37 PM #150:	JixHedgehog posted... Everyone bashed the former President who said it came from a lab You mean the one who said it was "just the flu" and claimed it was a hoax --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:954791675] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>JixHedgehog posted... </cite> <quote>Everyone bashed the former President who said it came from a lab</quote>You mean the one who said it was "just the flu" and claimed it was a hoax </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/09/21 11:46:37 AM #151:	JixHedgehog posted... Back in March Fauci said something like it couldn't have been man made and was likely to be a animal to human virus Everyone bashed the former President who said it came from a lab, and now that he's gone, everyone's slowly changing their tune Nobody except Zeus thinks it was man made. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:954810501] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>JixHedgehog posted...</cite> <quote>Back in March Fauci said something like it couldn't have been man made and was likely to be a animal to human virus Everyone bashed the former President who said it came from a lab, and now that he's gone, everyone's slowly changing their tune </quote> Nobody except Zeus thinks it was man made.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 06/09/21 2:03:44 PM #152:	Revelation34 posted... Nobody except Zeus thinks it was man made. Him and MondoMan180. Or at least Mondo wants to convince himself that malicious Chinese scientists 'tweaked' the virus in a lab - something that would show in the genomic sequencing that has already occured lmfao. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/79501677?page=1 --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:954815154] in Fauci's em... [t:79493457]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>Nobody except Zeus thinks it was man made.</quote>Him and MondoMan180. Or at least Mondo wants to convince himself that malicious Chinese scientists 'tweaked' the virus in a lab - something that would show in the genomic sequencing that has already occured lmfao. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/79501677?page=1 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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