Current Events > I will gift a $50 Amazon card to the first person to crack this code

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Simp posted...

in this life, Mistere Man, I seldom know what I want
but not in this case
these letters represent words, and the translation I'm looking for is a pretty straightforward message that explains the code itself

Thank you for clarifying for me.

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My friend says he is enjoying the process and thank you for stimulating his out of school bored mind
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Is the first word chalk?

Just checking before I continue on my present idea.

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Mistere Man posted...

Is the first word chalk?

Just checking before I continue on my present idea.

Sorry, nope. 'Chalk' is not in the message.

But in thinking about it some more, I've decided that Robot2600 is right and there's just not enough information provided to reasonably expect anyone to get it. That being the case, I'll give the first hint for free while retaining the full $100 reward. The 11th number cluster is a 4 by itself -- that corresponds to the letter (and word) 'a', but that is the only time in this message that the letter 'a' is represented by a '4'. Will that be enough to give it away? Dunno.

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I figured it wasnt as it was a pretty elaborate way I got it which is why I had to check.

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Simp posted...

Sorry, nope. 'Chalk' is not in the message.

But in thinking about it some more, I've decided that Robot2600 is right and there's just not enough information provided to reasonably expect anyone to get it. That being the case, I'll give the first hint for free while retaining the full $100 reward. The 11th number cluster is a 4 by itself -- that corresponds to the letter (and word) 'a', but that is the only time in this message that the letter 'a' is represented by a '4'. Will that be enough to give it away? Dunno.

So yeah you were never going to give any money away.

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tc is eliza

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spikethedevil posted...

So yeah you were never going to give any money away.

?
I'm not sure anybody will be able to get it from the one hint, so I may not give away $100. But I assume I'll at least end up giving away the $50 from the title after another hint or two.

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Yeah I give

If that's the only instance where 4 represents an A that means nothing and im not smart enough to crack this

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Okay okay, still unfair? A second hint, still retaining $100 prize. Can't beat that value. 10 of these number clusters represent words that are used twice in the message. Errr, trying to phrase that unambiguously. There are 5 words in the message that are used twice, making up 10 of the number clusters in total.

idk, I feel at this point like it's very possible but I could be wrong

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It seems to be some kind of shifting cipher which is too much for the old dying hamster that lives in my head to figure out it seems so I am out, but I would love to hear the answer later and how it works.

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This was done pre hints by the homie but he is now off the case and playing minecraft

I'm way less smart than him and just keep looking at it like a moron

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The Trent posted...

Tc ain't giving anybody shit

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I don't understand why everybody's just assuming I'll welch
is it just that it's easier to justify not trying than to try and fail?

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Won't get fooled again! Yeeeeeeeaaaah

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I think i may have cracked it. PM me if im right

RAWR!!! x3 *nuzzles, pounces on you*, UwU you so warm
Couldnt help but notice your bulge from across the floor
*Nuzzles your necky wecky* ~MURR~ "hehe"
*Unzips your baggy ass pants*, oh baby you so musky! OwO
Take me home, pet me, and make me yours and dont forget to stuff me!
See me wag my widdle baby tail all for your bolgy-wolgy
*Kissies and lickies your neck*
I hope daddy likies
*Nuzzles and wuzzles your chest*
I be getting thirsty

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Flauros posted...

I think i may have cracked it. PM me if im right

RAWR!!! x3 *nuzzles, pounces on you*, UwU you so warm
Couldnt help but notice your bulge from across the floor
*Nuzzles your necky wecky* ~MURR~ "hehe"
*Unzips your baggy ass pants*, oh baby you so musky! OwO
Take me home, pet me, and make me yours and dont forget to stuff me!
See me wag my widdle baby tail all for your bolgy-wolgy
*Kissies and lickies your neck*
I hope daddy likies
*Nuzzles and wuzzles your chest*
I be getting thirsty

This post has killed me, I hope you're happy now, you murderer. >:(

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Give me a day or two, I bet I can get it.

Don't give out more clues.

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joe40001 posted...

Give me a day or two, I bet I can get it.

Don't give out more clues.

I'm intrigued by your confidence, but CE at this point seems less than impressed with me and this topic. I'm not sure how thrilled they would be if I dragged it out another couple days.

How would you feel about making this 'bet' more interesting? You get 48 hours, and I'll reward you with $150 if you solve it. If you fail to do so in time, you will owe me $25. Bet is nullified if someone else solves it beforehand or if upon reveal you believe the code isn't internally consistent.

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Hahahahahahaha now you gotta pay tc

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The Trent posted...

Hahahahahahaha now you gotta pay tc

Hey, no need to make it an exclusive thing if you want to get in on the action as well. I'm game to run multiple challenges.

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I was wondering if it's using a phonetic alphabet/peg system but that would mean the numbers represent consonants and you said 4 is a vowel sound so probably not.

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Simp posted...

I'm intrigued by your confidence, but CE at this point seems less than impressed with me and this topic. I'm not sure how thrilled they would be if I dragged it out another couple days.

How would you feel about making this 'bet' more interesting? You get 48 hours, and I'll reward you with $150 if you solve it. If you fail to do so in time, you will owe me $25. Bet is nullified if someone else solves it beforehand or if upon reveal you believe the code isn't internally consistent.

I agree under the following circumstances:

1. You will reveal the answer when it's over if I fail, you can't be like "no trust me it's a real thing"
2. It is something that you believe to be solvable, it isn't some np-complete thing where literally the only way to solve it is a brute force that takes N!! time.

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The soundtrack to this topic:
https://youtu.be/JU_fgFRx_PI

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joe40001 posted...

I agree under the following circumstances:
1. You will reveal the answer when it's over if I fail, you can't be like "no trust me it's a real thing"
2. It is something that you believe to be solvable, it isn't some np-complete thing where literally the only way to solve it is a brute force that takes N!! time.

1. Granted, of course.
2. I'm going to be honest, I don't know what np-complete even means without looking it up and given my math/logical acumen I'm not convinced I'd know even then. You can judge after it's revealed whether it was solvable, I trust your integrity.

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Simp posted...

1. Granted, of course.
2. I'm going to be honest, I don't know what np-complete even means without looking it up and given my math/logical acumen I'm not convinced I'd know even then. You can judge after it's revealed whether it was solvable, I trust your integrity.

Thank you. I promise I will be fair in that regard.

This is an awesome topic TC. I wish more people made cool topics like this.

For the record: "I agree to this bet."

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Simp posted...

you've got to think latterly

The numbers are a planet and the more familiar English form is a room outside

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Nevermind simp isn't eliza, simp is joenumbers

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joe40001 posted...

Thank you. I promise I will be fair in that regard.

This is an awesome topic TC. I wish more people made cool topics like this.

For the record: "I agree to this bet."

Okay, your 48 hour timer begins now. Good luck!

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The Trent posted...

Nevermind simp isn't eliza, simp is joenumbers

Simp is neither Eliza3 nor joe40001. I have one other account I've posted on CE with in the past 312 or so days, and likely fewer than 50 total posts in that time span. I'm just Simp. \_()_/

though if you do believe this is some kind of elaborate ruse, feel free to try to solve the puzzle within 48 hours to thwart both of us

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Simp posted...

1. Granted, of course.
2. I'm going to be honest, I don't know what np-complete even means without looking it up and given my math/logical acumen I'm not convinced I'd know even then. You can judge after it's revealed whether it was solvable, I trust your integrity.

NP complete is where you guess every possible combination in order to get the right answer.

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bump because it's been a while and I forget how purge works these days
sorry if it annoys you to see the topic again

Tyranthraxus posted...

NP complete is where you guess every possible combination in order to get the right answer.

And thanks for the simple explanation, I think this is a much more reasonable code to solve than that.

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'I eat apple sauce for breakfast!'

Tyranthraxus posted...

NP complete is where you guess every possible combination in order to get the right answer.

Fighting the urge to "Um, actually..." so hard right now

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joe40001 posted...

Fighting the urge to "Um, actually..." so hard right now

With your time a little over halfway up, I'm curious whether you've made any progress or have any thoughts on the code. Ideally without getting into specifics, because it would be a shame if somebody else sees and sneaks up from behind you.

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Simp posted...

With your time a little over halfway up, I'm curious whether you've made any progress or have any thoughts on the code. Ideally without getting into specifics, because it would be a shame if somebody else sees and sneaks up from behind you.

I mean I could definitely ask you 1 or 2 questions, the answers to which would be extremely helpful. Like if I have the first word or not or questions about the lengths of the words. (But these would go against the bet)

I should have started it a little later because I often work late so it's basically finish it tonight or bust.

I'm doing it now though. Hopefully I get it.

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joe40001 posted...

I mean I could definitely ask you 1 or 2 questions, the answers to which would be extremely helpful. Like if I have the first word or not or questions about the lengths of the words. (But these would go against the bet)

I should have started it a little later because I often work late so it's basically finish it tonight or bust.

I'm doing it now though. Hopefully I get it.

I will answer one thing because it was something I intended to convey with an earlier hint but I think I didn't do so properly. When I said it was a 'straightforward message' what I think I meant was that it wasn't anything I considered particularly unusual in terms of words or word length. The average length of the words in English is a little above 4, a touch short of the average English word length but more or less standard. I mention that because it was something I intended to convey but probably didn't do so properly, so as far as I'm concerned it's not providing an additional hint. If that helps any.

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Simp posted...

I will answer one thing because it was something I intended to convey with an earlier hint but I think I didn't do so properly. When I said it was a 'straightforward message' what I think I meant was that it wasn't anything I considered particularly unusual in terms of words or word length. The average length of the words in English is a little above 4, a touch short of the average English word length but more or less standard. I mention that because it was something I intended to convey but probably didn't do so properly, so as far as I'm concerned it's not providing an additional hint. If that helps any.

It does.

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I feel like it's more fun if you know my thought process, even if that means I might get sniped:

There are 25 "words" and because none of them are the same numbers but there are repeated words that means whatever you are doing to the numbers changes either letter to letter or word to word.

So I made a script to find words of the same numeric length to try to find ones I think are the same word.
['39159', '19339'] seem very similar and if we knew they were the same word we might be able to infer the transformation going on.

['4218243', '4721948'] also seem similar.

In total these are the words organized into groups of the same number of digits:
5 ['39159', '19339']
11 ['27140413510', '51831171136']
4 ['2911', '1938', '6297', '3012', '5132']
8 ['41161737']
7 ['4218243', '4721948']
10 ['1243133749', '1320441628', '4611274526']
12 ['231444451538', '262249502339']
1 ['4']
9 ['455244217']
6 ['187620', '444121', '108942', '313124', '522225']
19 ['4019334320304621825']

Because we know 4 = A in one instance it is likely you are applying some kind of letter by letter or word by word transformation. Since you think it's guessable it is likely something not too obtuse, so I'm thinking per character or per word simple addition or multiplication.

Since you said the approximate word length to be more than 4 but less than average, and the average is 4.7 that means the average length is between 4 and 4.7, and since the average length of the number strings is 7.48 that means the average number to character conversion is between 1.87 and 1.5915

It's worth noting that a base 26 cipher generates an average of 5.48 characters per "word" so this is too high.

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It's likely that the word "the" appears within the sequence, perhaps even twice:
2911 seems like a likely candidate because 2905 is a reverse 26 bit cipher for "the" but none of the other ones seem that likely. Maybe 3012 because that's 107 off. (which is 26*4+3)

So assuming
2911 = the
and
3012 = the
then it's something like
2911 - 6 = reverse crypto base 26
3012 - 26*4-3 = reverse crypto base 26

Alternatively you can think of that as

Z - 6
H - 0
E - 0

W - 2
L - 4
E - 0

But the issue with this is a reverse cipher produces too many characters so it can't simply be a reverse base 26 with offsets.

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Dammit, I know I can get it, but I have to work tomorrow.

Grr. :(


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VTBM posted...

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lol this guy stole my idea.

The answer is To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existential catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, i DO have a Rick & Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid

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joe40001 posted...

Dammit, I know I can get it, but I have to work tomorrow.

Grr. :(

I do like seeing your work and how you approach the problem. If you still want to work on it tomorrow I would be willing to give a 4-hour extension to your time limit. I'm not really in any rush.

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Simp posted...

I do like seeing your work and how you approach the problem. If you still want to work on it tomorrow I would be willing to give a 4-hour extension to your time limit. I'm not really in any rush.

I know given enough time I could get this, but there are so many branching possibilities.

How much would clues cost me? lol (you don't have to answer that)

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joe40001 posted...

For the record: "I agree to this bet."

Fucking TAG this is sick.

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I've noticed that 2*16/26 + 10/26 (aka the expected value of a uniform letter selection) maps very closely to the desired goal of numbers per letter per word.

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I got it!

penispenispenis
penispenispenis

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Ok, question, and you can decide how much to fairly dock the prize for this question:

"Do the vowels behave the same way as the consonants?"

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Flauros posted...

I think i may have cracked it. PM me if im right

RAWR!!! x3 *nuzzles, pounces on you*, UwU you so warm
Couldnt help but notice your bulge from across the floor
*Nuzzles your necky wecky* ~MURR~ "hehe"
*Unzips your baggy ass pants*, oh baby you so musky! OwO
Take me home, pet me, and make me yours and dont forget to stuff me!
See me wag my widdle baby tail all for your bolgy-wolgy
*Kissies and lickies your neck*
I hope daddy likies
*Nuzzles and wuzzles your chest*
I be getting thirsty

That post is cancer.

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