Current Events > Why are the best writers/creatives/ artists/entertainers predominantly liberal ?

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Anyone care to explain this phenomena?

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I'm not sure it is one to begin with.

It's a shitty question, like asking why blacks are rarely mathematicians

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GeraldDarko posted...

I'm not sure it is one to begin with.

You are correct

its not a phenomenon at all

it is phenomenal

because liberals, being SCHEMERS, figured out the best way to peddle their views was to control media to review artistic works and other institutions to gatekeep, so that patriotic, conservative works don't get their due.

for instance, did you know that besides being a genius, political commentator, Ben Shapiro is also an accomplished author?? you would never know that if LIBERALS had their say!

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All the best media today?
What is some good media today that has not been retreaded?

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Liberals are smarter and more creative

Donald Trump is the greatest entertainer and leader of our time, and he's conservative.

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probably because a huge tenet of art is questioning and challenging accepted notions, which is something liberals do more than conservatives.

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God wheels it

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Wetterdew posted...

probably because a huge tenet of art is questioning and challenging accepted notions, which is something liberals do more than conservatives.

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Conservatives who try to enter these fields tend not to fit in all that well

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TommyG663513 posted...

Conservatives who try to enter these fields tend not to fit in all that well

this

conservative art and media just comes off as really awkward. remember Tim Allen's sitcom? Yeah...

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TheHoldSteady posted...

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conservative art and media just comes off as really awkward. remember Tim Allen's sitcom? Yeah...

remember when it was getting taken off the air due to bad ratings and conservatives started talking about it as though it was some major groundbreaking comedy

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I don't know if anything will top Trump playing Fortunate Son at his rallies, not realizing that he's 100% the bad guy in the song.

Conservatives' glaring lack of ability to interpret art and media is a microcosm for how they interpret facts about the world in general.

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

It's a shitty question, like asking why blacks are rarely mathematicians

Are you implying that conservatives were historically enslaved and discriminated against, preventing them from having the same opportunities as liberals in the entertainment fields?

Also did you really say "blacks" fucking YIKES

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In what country?

lol

FarFromFields posted...

Are you implying that conservatives were historically enslaved and discriminated against, preventing them from having the same opportunities as liberals in the entertainment fields?

Not really.

I'm saying it's a question that invites people to make essentialist assumptions about capacities.

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FarFromFields posted...

Are you implying that conservatives were historically enslaved and discriminated against, preventing them from having the same opportunities as liberals in the entertainment fields?

Also did you really say "blacks" fucking YIKES

I am half black you absolute shitlord

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

I am half black you absolute shitlord

Even if that's true, it's pretty cringe to say "blacks."

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FarFromFields posted...

Even if that's true, it's pretty cringe to say "blacks."

Not really, not at all actually. Anyway stay on topic, don't try to deflect by imagining some faux pas you want me to have made

I just hate it when people open up conversations by inviting people to shit on someone's identity by claiming that they can't do something as well as some other group. It's the exact same strategy racists use.

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Theyre cultured and exposed to different people of various walks of life, they dont just grew up in on monotonous way of life being fed lies from church. A lot of good artists and writers are educated, thats probably the biggest gap between Democrat v. Republican

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

I'm saying it's a question that invites people to make essentialist assumptions about capacities.

Personality traits do tend to limit certain capacities.

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g0ldie posted...

because liberals, being SCHEMERS, figured out the best way to peddle their views was to control media to review artistic works and other institutions to gatekeep, so that patriotic, conservative works don't get their due.

for instance, did you know that besides being a genius, political commentator, Ben Shapiro is also an accomplished author?? you would never know that if LIBERALS had their say!

would you like some tinfoil?

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They generally (though these days, almost exclusively) come from very wealthy, educated backgrounds, had the opportunity to attend decent schools, and tend to have lived in more liberal areas.

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

I just hate it when people open up conversations by inviting people to shit on someone's identity by claiming that they can't do something as well as some other group. It's the exact same strategy racists use.

ROFL, imagine believing conservatism being an immutable identity trait comparable to being black.

And NO--- asking why the most well-regarded artists tend to be liberal, is not the same as asking the converse --
No one is claiming why conservatives can't be artists. There are plenty of conservative artists.

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Biscotti posted...

would you like some tinfoil?

no, it messes up my teeth

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g0ldie posted...

no, it messes up my teeth

A hat?

oh sorry *blushes*

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lydiaquayle posted...

Personality traits do tend to limit certain capacities.

That could be true but I don't see the value in making that blanket statement. I also don't want to have to consider the full implications of such a statement because it is essentially fatalist and such. And it applies more than to just political dispositions.

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lydiaquayle posted...

ROFL, imagine believing conservatism being an immutable identity trait comparable to being black.

It's not, and yet you are trying to make what amounts to an essentialist argument.

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

That could be true but I don't see the value in making that blanket statement.

Blanket statement == ALL of the best artists are liberal.

No one has made any such statement.

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

It's not, and yet you are trying to make what amounts to an essentialist argument.

You apparently don't even understand what essentialism is.

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lydiaquayle posted...

Blanket statement == ALL of the best artists are liberal.

No one has made any such statement.

I mean the statement that personality determines capacity or capability

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

I mean the statement that personality determines capacity or capability

No one has made any such statement.

Certain personality traits DO TEND to limit certain capacities.

That doesn't mean one can't overcome such limitations.

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lydiaquayle posted...

You apparently don't even understand what essentialism is.

If you take liberal out of your topic title what is left? The essence of your argument hinges on it being a political alignment

You can't really just substitute it for educated can you?

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lydiaquayle posted...

No one has made any such statement.

Certain personality traits DO TEND to limit certain capacities.

That doesn't mean one can't overcome such limitations.

lydiaquayle posted...

Personality traits do tend to limit certain capacities.

Sorry, you did say exactly that

Whether they CAN be overcome is not relevant to whether the statement is true or not

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

Whether they CAN be overcome is not relevant to whether the statement is true or not

If limitations can be overcome, then the fate isn't determined.

QED.

Please go take a basic Logic course.

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lydiaquayle posted...

If limitations can be overcome, then the fate isn't determined.

QED.

Please go take a basic Logic course.

If a limitation can be overcome then it's hardly a limitation. The whole point is there a threshold where not everyone overcomes said limitation. So for some, by virtue of the fact it's a fucking limit, yes, fate is determined

Otherwise you'd have no topic because every conservative artist would be good at it

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conservative media, especially comedy, is often weirdly mean spirited in a way that makes most people uncomfortable

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

If a limitation can be overcome then it's hardly a limitation. The whole point is there a threshold where not everyone overcomes said limitation. So for some, by virtue of the fact it's a fucking limit, yes, fate is determined

Nowhere in my statement do I state, nor imply that conservatism prevents you from becoming an artist. You are literally trying to claim that if A is true, then its converse must also be true.

Seriously, please come back once you've taken a basic Logic Course. You are seriously limited by your ignorance on the matter.

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lydiaquayle posted...

Nowhere in my statement do I state, nor imply that conservatism prevents you from becoming an artist. You are literally trying to claim that if A is true, then its converse must also be true.

Seriously, please come back once you've taken a basic Logic Course. You are seriously limited by your ignorance on the matter.

Sure.

But you are claiming liberals are predominately better artists.

General statements like that are no more asinine than statements like "asians are predominantly smarter than whites" it carries the same offense in my opinion.

It's a stupid flex and maybe you should take an ethics course before making more topics.

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YoungMan posted...

Donald Trump is the greatest entertainer and leader of our time, and he's conservative.

He was a Democrat until he realized all the idiots are on the other side of the spectrum.

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

But you are claiming liberals are predominately better artists.

NOPE. read again.

Seriously, basic Logic teaches that A-->B =/= B--->A

Please go back to school and learn these basic concepts before having a conversation with me.

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lydiaquayle posted...

NOPE. read again.

Seriously, basic Logic teaches that A-->B =/= B--->A

State your claim so I dont have to guess then.

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

General statements like that are no more asinine than statements like "asians are predominantly smarter than whites" it carries the same offense in my opinion.

Yeah that would be a stupid statement to make -- which I have not done at all.

The more accurate statement would be -- "Why are so many self-identified persons of Chinese / Taiwanese / Korean / Indian / and other countries with advanced educational systems, descended from 2nd-generation immigrant families performing at the top level of academic achievements versus other ethnic groups in America?"

And the answer is actually quite nuanced and has nothing to do with natural 'smartness' or 'working hard', etc.

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lydiaquayle posted...

Yeah that would be a stupid statement to make -- which I have not done at all.

The more accurate statement would be -- "Why are so many self-identified persons of Chinese / Taiwanese / Korean / Indian / descent from 2nd-generation immigrant families performing at the top level of academic achievements versus other ethnic groups in America?"

And the answer is actually quite nuanced and has nothing to do with natural 'smartness', etc.

Ok, that's lovely. So there is a reason for inequality.

What is the positive claim attached to your question? It must be "the best artists are predominantly liberal"

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