Current Events > HOA told couple not to fly Rainbow Flag on their home

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UnlikedMonkey 06/08/21 12:52:36 PM #1:	Memo Fachino, a 35-year-old from Racine, Wisconsin, was informed late last month by *his homeowners association that he and his husband, Lance Mier, 36, were no longer allowed to fly their Pride flag despite it hanging on their porch since 2016.* We believe its important to express ourselves, and to have visible representation, Fachino told HuffPost via email. Fachino also explained that the flag has had a significant ripple effect. He noted that, a few years ago, he received a letter expressing gratitude for their flag from a neighbor who was struggling with gender identity at the time. It gave them hope that, even if they werent finding the acceptance they needed in their current home, they knew they would be able to find that in the community, Fachino said. Fachino explained in a now-viral Reddit post that due to other homeowners displaying Black Lives Matter, Thin Blue Line and other opinion flags around his neighborhood, his HOA had decided to ban any flag other than the American flag from being displayed in front of homes. The board did express that if we, or anyone for that matter, could come up with wording that would allow neighbors to fly opinion or political flags without controversy, that they were open to reviewing the rule, Fachino told HuffPost. This is, as you can imagine, not super easy, as what one considers controversial can be quite subjective. Fachino said that he has no malice toward his HOA and does not feel targeted or attacked by the board, but the couple found having to remove their flag right before Pride month to be disappointing. We wanted to have a Pride display for June, and we wanted to abide by the rules, Fachino said. So we found a way to do both. Fachino said a few days after he and Mier took down their Pride flag, they had a lightbulb-over-the-head moment. *They looked through their HOAs new rules and noticed that removable lights are permitted without restriction.* *So Fachino and Mier decided to buy six different colored floodlights and washed our house in Pride colors.* Before: After: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hoa-pride-flag-rainbow-lights_n_60be77c6e4b0ea8a19216afd --- Matt Murdock of Earth-616, you have the ability to overcome great fear. Welcome to the Gr... F-sharp Bell Corps. - Karrde <cite>UnlikedMonkey posted [p:954776682] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>Memo Fachino, a 35-year-old from Racine, Wisconsin, was informed late last month by his homeowners association that he and his husband, Lance Mier, 36, were no longer allowed to fly their Pride flag despite it hanging on their porch since 2016. We believe its important to express ourselves, and to have visible representation, Fachino told HuffPost via email. Fachino also explained that the flag has had a significant ripple effect. He noted that, a few years ago, he received a letter expressing gratitude for their flag from a neighbor who was struggling with gender identity at the time. It gave them hope that, even if they werent finding the acceptance they needed in their current home, they knew they would be able to find that in the community, Fachino said. Fachino explained in a now-viral Reddit post that due to other homeowners displaying Black Lives Matter, Thin Blue Line and other opinion flags around his neighborhood, his HOA had decided to ban any flag other than the American flag from being displayed in front of homes. The board did express that if we, or anyone for that matter, could come up with wording that would allow neighbors to fly opinion or political flags without controversy, that they were open to reviewing the rule, Fachino told HuffPost. This is, as you can imagine, not super easy, as what one considers controversial can be quite subjective. Fachino said that he has no malice toward his HOA and does not feel targeted or attacked by the board, but the couple found having to remove their flag right before Pride month to be disappointing. We wanted to have a Pride display for June, and we wanted to abide by the rules, Fachino said. So we found a way to do both. Fachino said a few days after he and Mier took down their Pride flag, they had a lightbulb-over-the-head moment. They looked through their HOAs new rules and noticed that removable lights are permitted without restriction. So Fachino and Mier decided to buy six different colored floodlights and washed our house in Pride colors. Before: After: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hoa-pride-flag-rainbow-lights_n_60be77c6e4b0ea8a19216afd </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 06/08/21 12:53:04 PM #2:	Fair, next --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://imgur.com/FKDXbHs <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:954776698] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>Fair, next </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
justaguy3492 06/08/21 12:54:51 PM #3:	Dumb as hell, but so is purchasing a home that is apart of an HOA. --- Gt: justaguy3492 <cite>justaguy3492 posted [p:954776761] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>Dumb as hell, but so is purchasing a home that is apart of an HOA. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meralonne 06/08/21 12:54:53 PM #4:	HOAs suck. Period. --- "Sigs are for dorks."-- my wife <cite>meralonne posted [p:954776763] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>HOAs suck. Period. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 06/08/21 12:55:11 PM #5:	UnlikedMonkey posted... So Fachino and Mier decided to buy six different colored floodlights and washed our house in Pride colors. Based --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:954776774] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>UnlikedMonkey posted... </cite> <quote>So Fachino and Mier decided to buy six different colored floodlights and washed our house in Pride colors.</quote>Based </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/08/21 12:55:19 PM #6:	Fachino explained in a now-viral Reddit post that due to other homeowners displaying Black Lives Matter, Thin Blue Line and other opinion flags around his neighborhood, his HOA had decided to ban any flag other than the American flag from being displayed in front of homes. This is why you gotta actually show up to the HOA meetings. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:954776778] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote><quote>Fachino explained in a now-viral Reddit post that due to other homeowners displaying Black Lives Matter, Thin Blue Line and other opinion flags around his neighborhood, his HOA had decided to ban any flag other than the American flag from being displayed in front of homes.</quote>This is why you gotta actually show up to the HOA meetings. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 06/08/21 12:55:42 PM #7:	My HOA is the same, American flag only --- https://imgur.com/NvktIWl <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:954776785] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>My HOA is the same, American flag only </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordFarquad1312 06/08/21 12:56:28 PM #8:	Fuck HOAs --- El sexo sucio y el planeta limpio. "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." <cite>LordFarquad1312 posted [p:954776804] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>Fuck HOAs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 06/08/21 12:56:39 PM #9:	UnlikedMonkey posted... The board did express that if we, or anyone for that matter, could come up with wording that would allow neighbors to fly opinion or political flags without controversy, that they were open to reviewing the rule, "Fuck homophobes" seems a good wording to me. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:954776811] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>UnlikedMonkey posted... </cite> <quote>The board did express that if we, or anyone for that matter, could come up with wording that would allow neighbors to fly opinion or political flags without controversy, that they were open to reviewing the rule,</quote>"Fuck homophobes" seems a good wording to me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PoundGarden 06/08/21 12:57:21 PM #10:	UnlikedMonkey posted... Fachino explained in a now-viral Reddit post that due to other homeowners displaying Black Lives Matter, Thin Blue Line and other opinion flags around his neighborhood, his HOA had decided to ban any flag other than the American flag from being displayed in front of homes. Um, fair as fuck? UnlikedMonkey posted... They looked through their HOAs new rules and noticed that removable lights are permitted without restriction. So Fachino and Mier decided to buy six different colored floodlights and washed our house in Pride colors. Petty as fuck. Enjoy it up until the next board meeting, where they take away lights for everyone. --- "You go. I'm just going to stare at the lake and think about how I almost just killed a baby." <cite>PoundGarden posted [p:954776836] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>UnlikedMonkey posted... </cite> <quote>Fachino explained in a now-viral Reddit post that due to other homeowners displaying Black Lives Matter, Thin Blue Line and other opinion flags around his neighborhood, his HOA had decided to ban any flag other than the American flag from being displayed in front of homes.</quote> Um, fair as fuck? UnlikedMonkey posted... </cite> <quote>They looked through their HOAs new rules and noticed that removable lights are permitted without restriction. So Fachino and Mier decided to buy six different colored floodlights and washed our house in Pride colors.</quote> Petty as fuck. Enjoy it up until the next board meeting, where they take away lights for everyone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kinetika_ 06/08/21 12:57:35 PM #11:	justaguy3492 posted... Dumb as hell, but so is purchasing a home that is apart of an HOA. HOAs will own everything eventually. It's hard to find non-HOA areas nowadays. --- PSN: PurifyNothing <cite>kinetika_ posted [p:954776843] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>justaguy3492 posted... </cite> <quote>Dumb as hell, but so is purchasing a home that is apart of an HOA.</quote> HOAs will own everything eventually. It's hard to find non-HOA areas nowadays. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TeaMilk 06/08/21 12:57:41 PM #12:	UnlikedMonkey posted... *They looked through their HOAs new rules and noticed that removable lights are permitted without restriction.* *So Fachino and Mier decided to buy six different colored floodlights and washed our house in Pride colors.* After: BASED --- http://large.horse/ Show icons on posts: https://openuserjs.org/scripts/melon/GameFAQs_Show_Icon <cite>TeaMilk posted [p:954776850] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>UnlikedMonkey posted... </cite> <quote>They looked through their HOAs new rules and noticed that removable lights are permitted without restriction. So Fachino and Mier decided to buy six different colored floodlights and washed our house in Pride colors. After: </quote>BASED </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 06/08/21 12:57:55 PM #13:	Fair. You bought into an HOA, you asked for this HOA have done worse. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:954776861] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>Fair. You bought into an HOA, you asked for this HOA have done worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raikuro 06/08/21 12:58:17 PM #14:	How is being gay an "opinion"? <cite>Raikuro posted [p:954776875] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>How is being gay an "opinion"? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/08/21 12:58:40 PM #15:	TeaMilk posted... BASED It's a lot less creepy than the previous lighting. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:954776886] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>TeaMilk posted... </cite> <quote>BASED</quote>It's a lot less creepy than the previous lighting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TeaMilk 06/08/21 12:59:10 PM #16:	WingsOfGood posted... Fair. You bought into an HOA, you asked for this HOA have done worse. Why do I keep seeing this sentiment of blaming homeowners for buying into a HOA? When I was searching for a place 6 months ago, like 95% of listings were under an HOA --- http://large.horse/ Show icons on posts: https://openuserjs.org/scripts/melon/GameFAQs_Show_Icon <cite>TeaMilk posted [p:954776905] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite> <quote>Fair. You bought into an HOA, you asked for this HOA have done worse.</quote>Why do I keep seeing this sentiment of blaming homeowners for buying into a HOA? When I was searching for a place 6 months ago, like 95% of listings were under an HOA </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 06/08/21 12:59:53 PM #17:	TeaMilk posted... Why do I keep seeing this sentiment of blaming homeowners for buying into a HOA? When I was searching for a place 6 months ago, like 95% of listings were under an HOA Where did you look? <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:954776934] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>TeaMilk posted... </cite> <quote>Why do I keep seeing this sentiment of blaming homeowners for buying into a HOA? When I was searching for a place 6 months ago, like 95% of listings were under an HOA</quote> Where did you look? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/08/21 1:00:17 PM #18:	TeaMilk posted... When I was searching for a place 6 months ago, like 95% of listings were under an HOA Thus, you had several HOAs to choose from, and merely had to pick the least awful situation. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:954776949] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>TeaMilk posted... </cite> <quote>When I was searching for a place 6 months ago, like 95% of listings were under an HOA</quote>Thus, you had several HOAs to choose from, and merely had to pick the least awful situation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RetsuZaiZen 06/08/21 1:01:22 PM #19:	So if I'm understanding, they don't believe that the American flag is political? --- Why do nerds always get caught up on the details? Michael Jordan is both the greatest and most overrated basketball player of all time. <cite>RetsuZaiZen posted [p:954776994] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>So if I'm understanding, they don't believe that the American flag is political? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skermac 06/08/21 1:01:34 PM #20:	Why do people move to a home knowing the hoa rules then break the rules? I agree they should be able to fly the flag but I will never move someplace with an hoa , too much trouble to fight rules you dont like --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive <cite>skermac posted [p:954776998] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>Why do people move to a home knowing the hoa rules then break the rules? I agree they should be able to fly the flag but I will never move someplace with an hoa , too much trouble to fight rules you dont like </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PoundGarden 06/08/21 1:02:35 PM #21:	Raikuro posted... How is being gay an "opinion"? UnlikedMonkey posted... Fachino explained in a now-viral Reddit post that due to other homeowners displaying Black Lives Matter, Thin Blue Line and other opinion flags around his neighborhood, his HOA had decided to ban any flag other than the American flag from being displayed in front of homes. No room for interpretation TeaMilk posted... Why do I keep seeing this sentiment of blaming homeowners for buying into a HOA? When I was searching for a place 6 months ago, like 95% of listings were under an HOA Pssst....most people here don't own a home and don't understand things like HOA's. That said, HOA's are almost universally run by a group of busybody nerds who all think alike and determine what everyone else's house should look like. --- "You go. I'm just going to stare at the lake and think about how I almost just killed a baby." <cite>PoundGarden posted [p:954777032] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>Raikuro posted... </cite> <quote>How is being gay an "opinion"?</quote> UnlikedMonkey posted... </cite> <quote>Fachino explained in a now-viral Reddit post that due to other homeowners displaying Black Lives Matter, Thin Blue Line and other opinion flags around his neighborhood, his HOA had decided to ban any flag other than the American flag from being displayed in front of homes.</quote> No room for interpretation TeaMilk posted... </cite> <quote>Why do I keep seeing this sentiment of blaming homeowners for buying into a HOA? When I was searching for a place 6 months ago, like 95% of listings were under an HOA</quote> Pssst....most people here don't own a home and don't understand things like HOA's. That said, HOA's are almost universally run by a group of busybody nerds who all think alike and determine what everyone else's house should look like. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TeaMilk 06/08/21 1:02:37 PM #22:	WingsOfGood posted... Where did you look? Near/around Portland OR --- http://large.horse/ Show icons on posts: https://openuserjs.org/scripts/melon/GameFAQs_Show_Icon <cite>TeaMilk posted [p:954777033] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite> <quote>Where did you look?</quote>Near/around Portland OR </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g980 06/08/21 1:02:57 PM #23:	topic title angled to get the outrage machine revved --- These old bones live to learn her wanton ways: (I measure time by how a body sways). <cite>g980 posted [p:954777048] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>topic title angled to get the outrage machine revved</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skermac 06/08/21 1:03:09 PM #24:	TeaMilk posted... Why do I keep seeing this sentiment of blaming homeowners for buying into a HOA? When I was searching for a place 6 months ago, like 95% of listings were under an HOA I live in a older place no hoa around for many miles there are lots of places with no hoa so avoid them --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive <cite>skermac posted [p:954777061] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>TeaMilk posted... </cite> <quote>Why do I keep seeing this sentiment of blaming homeowners for buying into a HOA? When I was searching for a place 6 months ago, like 95% of listings were under an HOA</quote> I live in a older place no hoa around for many miles there are lots of places with no hoa so avoid them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 06/08/21 1:06:00 PM #25:	TeaMilk posted... Near/around Portland OR Well despite being a liberal city now, Portland used to be massive racist land so it is likely anecdotal that they made HOAs to deny minorities from buying in. And look further out of the city. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:954777163] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>TeaMilk posted... </cite> <quote>Near/around Portland OR</quote> Well despite being a liberal city now, Portland used to be massive racist land so it is likely anecdotal that they made HOAs to deny minorities from buying in. And look further out of the city. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 06/08/21 1:07:01 PM #26:	skermac posted... I live in a older place no hoa around for many miles there are lots of places with no hoa so avoid them You have experience with this area? Was he trying to buy expensive houses perhaps? <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:954777198] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>skermac posted... </cite> <quote>I live in a older place no hoa around for many miles there are lots of places with no hoa so avoid them</quote> You have experience with this area? Was he trying to buy expensive houses perhaps? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 06/08/21 1:07:47 PM #27:	WingsOfGood posted... Fair. You bought into an HOA, you asked for this HOA have done worse. Most people don't have a choice on whether or not they have an HOA. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:954777223] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite> <quote>Fair. You bought into an HOA, you asked for this HOA have done worse.</quote>Most people don't have a choice on whether or not they have an HOA. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 06/08/21 1:08:47 PM #28:	HOAs should be banned <cite>Zikten posted [p:954777258] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>HOAs should be banned</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SiO4 06/08/21 1:08:51 PM #29:	skermac posted... I live in a older place no hoa around for many miles there are lots of places with no hoa so avoid them Ya....I would rather....well I can't say. But why anyone would put themselves in the situation of having a HOA is beyond me. ~That honestly sounds like making life a living hell. ~That's some real Boomer shit right there. --- "Whatever the reason you're on Mars, I'm glad you're there, and I wish I was with you." ~Carl Sagan. Currently playing: Flight Simulator X.~PC <cite>SiO4 posted [p:954777261] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>skermac posted...</cite> <quote> I live in a older place no hoa around for many miles there are lots of places with no hoa so avoid them </quote> Ya....I would rather....well I can't say. But why anyone would put themselves in the situation of having a HOA is beyond me. ~That honestly sounds like making life a living hell. ~That's some real Boomer shit right there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 06/08/21 1:09:00 PM #30:	skermac posted... Why do people move to a home knowing the hoa rules then break the rules? I agree they should be able to fly the flag but I will never move someplace with an hoa , too much trouble to fight rules you dont like Why do people comment without reading the article? It's a new rule that was put in place last month --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:954777266] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>skermac posted... </cite> <quote>Why do people move to a home knowing the hoa rules then break the rules? I agree they should be able to fly the flag but I will never move someplace with an hoa , too much trouble to fight rules you dont like</quote>Why do people comment without reading the article? It's a new rule that was put in place last month </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WashYourHands 06/08/21 1:09:13 PM #31:	Hoas are the pits. With that said after reading the title and after seeing ALL the flags that are banned this gets a fair next from me --- 20 seconds is all it takes! <cite>WashYourHands posted [p:954777273] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>Hoas are the pits. With that said after reading the title and after seeing ALL the flags that are banned this gets a fair next from me </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 06/08/21 1:10:33 PM #32:	ScazarMeltex posted... Most people don't have a choice on whether or not they have an HOA. Except that cheaper houses tend to not be in an HOA and expensive one are more likely. This isn't like all the poor people neighborhoods being ruled by HOAs, rather it is you don't want to live in those neighborhoods so you go to one with a dictator HOA. Which fyi is the whole point of HOA. So you are WRONG. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:954777319] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>Most people don't have a choice on whether or not they have an HOA.</quote> Except that cheaper houses tend to not be in an HOA and expensive one are more likely. This isn't like all the poor people neighborhoods being ruled by HOAs, rather it is you don't want to live in those neighborhoods so you go to one with a dictator HOA. Which fyi is the whole point of HOA. So you are WRONG. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zanzenburger 06/08/21 1:10:50 PM #33:	So it sounds like the HOA board (which represents the homeowners), voted to ban all flags except for the American flag (which is pretty common in most HOAs), so the family was forced to take down their pride flag and found a loophole in the HOA regulations to celebrate pride month a different way. Does that about summarize it? This is basically a non-story aside from the pretty cool solution the family came up with. The article makes it sound initially like they were targeted specifically for celebrating pride month. But the fact of the matter is that this was an ongoing HOA rule change which just happened to be timed around pride month (whether this was intentional or not is not outlined in the article so we don't know). I get annoyed by clickbait articles that try to drum up controversy by zeroing in on an issue without the surrounding context. This one at least provided the context later on, but not all articles do. HOAs suck, but really they are like any other government body. The problem is most people don't show up to the board meetings where these kinds of things are voted on. I live in an HOA (for another two weeks; just bought a house to get the heck out of here), and it hasn't been too bad because I've been pretty involved and have motivated neighbors to vote for things that are important to me. It sounds like flags have been a consistent problem at that neighborhood and the residents voted to just remove them. People can either start an initiative to vote to get them back, or find other ways to get their message across. Sounds like this family came up with a creative solution. I'd say they just need to make sure to stay involved at the board meetings so that solution isn't stuck down as well. --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. <cite>Zanzenburger posted [p:954777330] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>So it sounds like the HOA board (which represents the homeowners), voted to ban all flags except for the American flag (which is pretty common in most HOAs), so the family was forced to take down their pride flag and found a loophole in the HOA regulations to celebrate pride month a different way. Does that about summarize it? This is basically a non-story aside from the pretty cool solution the family came up with. The article makes it sound initially like they were targeted specifically for celebrating pride month. But the fact of the matter is that this was an ongoing HOA rule change which just happened to be timed around pride month (whether this was intentional or not is not outlined in the article so we don't know). I get annoyed by clickbait articles that try to drum up controversy by zeroing in on an issue without the surrounding context. This one at least provided the context later on, but not all articles do. HOAs suck, but really they are like any other government body. The problem is most people don't show up to the board meetings where these kinds of things are voted on. I live in an HOA (for another two weeks; just bought a house to get the heck out of here), and it hasn't been too bad because I've been pretty involved and have motivated neighbors to vote for things that are important to me. It sounds like flags have been a consistent problem at that neighborhood and the residents voted to just remove them. People can either start an initiative to vote to get them back, or find other ways to get their message across. Sounds like this family came up with a creative solution. I'd say they just need to make sure to stay involved at the board meetings so that solution isn't stuck down as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/08/21 1:12:34 PM #34:	WingsOfGood posted... Which fyi is the whole point of HOA. HOAs are just the old "covenants" with a different name. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:954777382] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite> <quote>Which fyi is the whole point of HOA.</quote>HOAs are just the old "covenants" with a different name. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lairen 06/08/21 1:13:34 PM #35:	The 2nd picture is beautiful! --- When it rains, it pours. <cite>Lairen posted [p:954777420] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>The 2nd picture is beautiful! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 06/08/21 1:15:05 PM #36:	Questionmarktarius posted... HOAs are just the old "covenants" with a different name. Idk what that is but the point of HOA is to make the value of the houses go up and people think the neighborhood is nice by dictating how houses look and using fees to have like a public pool and to cut grass not on private property. In a place with no HOA, you don't get a public pool like that and may have lots that have grass not cut in months. Also can have rules like no loud parties as that can tank a neighborhood very fast. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:954777460] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>HOAs are just the old "covenants" with a different name.</quote> Idk what that is but the point of HOA is to make the value of the houses go up and people think the neighborhood is nice by dictating how houses look and using fees to have like a public pool and to cut grass not on private property. In a place with no HOA, you don't get a public pool like that and may have lots that have grass not cut in months. Also can have rules like no loud parties as that can tank a neighborhood very fast. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skermac 06/08/21 1:15:42 PM #37:	WingsOfGood posted... Except that cheaper houses tend to not be in an HOA and expensive one are more likely. This isn't like all the poor people neighborhoods being ruled by HOAs, rather it is you don't want to live in those neighborhoods so you go to one with a dictator HOA. Which fyi is the whole point of HOA. So you are WRONG. everyone has a choice to live in a hoa or not --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive <cite>skermac posted [p:954777478] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite> <quote>Except that cheaper houses tend to not be in an HOA and expensive one are more likely. This isn't like all the poor people neighborhoods being ruled by HOAs, rather it is you don't want to live in those neighborhoods so you go to one with a dictator HOA. Which fyi is the whole point of HOA. So you are WRONG.</quote>everyone has a choice to live in a hoa or not </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 06/08/21 1:15:46 PM #38:	WingsOfGood posted... Idk what that is ...probably better that way. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:954777481] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite> <quote>Idk what that is</quote>...probably better that way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 06/08/21 1:16:08 PM #39:	kinetika_ posted... HOAs will own everything eventually. It's hard to find non-HOA areas nowadays. Lmfao no its not --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:954777493] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>kinetika_ posted... </cite> <quote>HOAs will own everything eventually. It's hard to find non-HOA areas nowadays.</quote>Lmfao no its not </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zanzenburger 06/08/21 1:16:18 PM #40:	Questionmarktarius posted... Thus, you had several HOAs to choose from, and merely had to pick the least awful situation. To be fair, HOAs are ridiculously hard to judge when you are house shopping. You can look at things like the HOA fees and some general regulations regarding parking and yard toys, but have you seen the HOA manuals? They can be over 100 pages long. If a person is shopping around for houses, there is no realistic way to review that many HOA manuals for every little thing. Most HOA things you learn from living there. ScazarMeltex posted... Most people don't have a choice on whether or not they have an HOA. Also, this. My wife and I lived in an HOA for a year before buying our new home. We live in a high-HOA area where the cheapest homes are found there since they are constructed in batches. You will find more and more HOAs in bedroom communities near major metropolitan centers, and non-HOA houses are becoming rare in these areas. Consider yourself fortunate if you live in a place where HOAs are not that commonplace. They are becoming the norm in more places around the US. --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. <cite>Zanzenburger posted [p:954777498] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Thus, you had several HOAs to choose from, and merely had to pick the least awful situation.</quote>To be fair, HOAs are ridiculously hard to judge when you are house shopping. You can look at things like the HOA fees and some general regulations regarding parking and yard toys, but have you seen the HOA manuals? They can be over 100 pages long. If a person is shopping around for houses, there is no realistic way to review that many HOA manuals for every little thing. Most HOA things you learn from living there. ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>Most people don't have a choice on whether or not they have an HOA.</quote>Also, this. My wife and I lived in an HOA for a year before buying our new home. We live in a high-HOA area where the cheapest homes are found there since they are constructed in batches. You will find more and more HOAs in bedroom communities near major metropolitan centers, and non-HOA houses are becoming rare in these areas. Consider yourself fortunate if you live in a place where HOAs are not that commonplace. They are becoming the norm in more places around the US. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 06/08/21 1:16:23 PM #41:	skermac posted... everyone has a choice to live in a hoa or not Exactly. HOA houses a luxury for the well off. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:954777501] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>skermac posted... </cite> <quote>everyone has a choice to live in a hoa or not </quote> Exactly. HOA houses a luxury for the well off. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 06/08/21 1:17:40 PM #42:	Just your weekly reminder that HOAs should be outlawed --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:954777545] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>Just your weekly reminder that HOAs should be outlawed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 06/08/21 1:18:52 PM #43:	Zanzenburger posted... We live in a high-HOA area where the cheapest homes are found there since they are constructed in batches. I find this hard to believe. There is no ghetto area near you? No "bad neighborhood"? That would be the cheapest but ya, maybe you don't want to move there but therein lies why you are fine with choosing to subject yourself to an HOA. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:954777591] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>Zanzenburger posted... </cite> <quote>We live in a high-HOA area where the cheapest homes are found there since they are constructed in batches.</quote> I find this hard to believe. There is no ghetto area near you? No "bad neighborhood"? That would be the cheapest but ya, maybe you don't want to move there but therein lies why you are fine with choosing to subject yourself to an HOA. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zanzenburger 06/08/21 1:20:19 PM #44:	WingsOfGood posted... Exactly. HOA houses a luxury for the well off. While you are not completely off with this statement, it does exaggerate the cost of HOA housing. https://cpb-us-e2.wpmucdn.com/sites.uci.edu/dist/e/2915/files/2019/06/JUE_Manuscript.pdf We find that houses in HOAs have prices that are on average at least 4 percent, or $13,500, greater than observably similar houses outside of HOAs. Also, whether we like it or not, HOA housing is becoming more and more common around the country, with a majority of new houses being built in HOA communities. The trend is expected to continue. In the U.S., nearly 60 percent of recently built single-family houses, and 80 percent of houses in new subdivisions, are part of a homeowners association (HOA). --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. <cite>Zanzenburger posted [p:954777640] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite> <quote>Exactly. HOA houses a luxury for the well off.</quote> While you are not completely off with this statement, it does exaggerate the cost of HOA housing. https://cpb-us-e2.wpmucdn.com/sites.uci.edu/dist/e/2915/files/2019/06/JUE_Manuscript.pdf We find that houses in HOAs have prices that are on average at least 4 percent, or $13,500, greater than observably similar houses outside of HOAs. Also, whether we like it or not, HOA housing is becoming more and more common around the country, with a majority of new houses being built in HOA communities. The trend is expected to continue. In the U.S., nearly 60 percent of recently built single-family houses, and 80 percent of houses in new subdivisions, are part of a homeowners association (HOA). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zanzenburger 06/08/21 1:22:00 PM #45:	WingsOfGood posted... I find this hard to believe. There is no ghetto area near you? No "bad neighborhood"? That would be the cheapest but ya, maybe you don't want to move there but therein lies why you are fine with choosing to subject yourself to an HOA. The "ghetto" neighborhood in the community here are split between manufactured homes in trailer parks (with management who basically acts like an HOA) and apartments for rent (which are even more controlled than HOAs). The non-HOA houses are mostly farms and properties with acreage where the land shoots up the price of the houses. --- Congratulations! Your post was deemed response-worthy. <cite>Zanzenburger posted [p:954777700] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite> <quote>I find this hard to believe. There is no ghetto area near you? No "bad neighborhood"? That would be the cheapest but ya, maybe you don't want to move there but therein lies why you are fine with choosing to subject yourself to an HOA.</quote>The "ghetto" neighborhood in the community here are split between manufactured homes in trailer parks (with management who basically acts like an HOA) and apartments for rent (which are even more controlled than HOAs). The non-HOA houses are mostly farms and properties with acreage where the land shoots up the price of the houses. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 06/08/21 1:22:32 PM #46:	Well I expect new housing starts with an HOA and eventually it dissolves. New housing is usually a luxury for the well off as well. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:954777716] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>Well I expect new housing starts with an HOA and eventually it dissolves. New housing is usually a luxury for the well off as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkprince45 06/08/21 1:27:11 PM #48:	I dont like HOAs. But then I see my buddies house that has no HOA, nice neighborhood. But his direct neighbor is a house full of 10+ tweakers, with 5+ burnt out broken cars junk cars parked everywhere, weeds several feet high. Broken out windows, 10+ broken appliances thrown out on the lawn. Their house is constant screaming and domestics --- https://imgur.com/NvktIWl <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:954777845] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>I dont like HOAs. But then I see my buddies house that has no HOA, nice neighborhood. But his direct neighbor is a house full of 10+ tweakers, with 5+ burnt out broken cars junk cars parked everywhere, weeds several feet high. Broken out windows, 10+ broken appliances thrown out on the lawn. Their house is constant screaming and domestics </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumpo 06/08/21 1:28:19 PM #49:	Are RGB computer components a LGBT statement? <cite>Trumpo posted [p:954777894] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>Are RGB computer components a LGBT statement? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Returning_CEmen 06/08/21 1:41:01 PM #50:	I hate HOAs so much --- Genius, Thousandaire, Playboy, Philanthropist <cite>Returning_CEmen posted [p:954778314] in HOA told c... [t:79501794]...</cite> <quote>I hate HOAs so much </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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