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TheHoldSteady 06/13/21 4:21:30 PM #101:	The fact that Navalny went back to Russia but Snowden didn't come back to US reflects poorly on him tbh --- If she says we partied, then I'm pretty sure we partied. I really don't remember. I remember we departed from our bodies. <cite>TheHoldSteady posted [p:954963768] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>The fact that Navalny went back to Russia but Snowden didn't come back to US reflects poorly on him tbh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 06/13/21 4:23:53 PM #102:	TheHoldSteady posted... The fact that Navalny went back to Russia but Snowden didn't come back to US reflects poorly on him tbh Imagine the horrors Snowden would face in the US though, like going to college or earning money from speaking gigs <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:954963892] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>TheHoldSteady posted... </cite> <quote>The fact that Navalny went back to Russia but Snowden didn't come back to US reflects poorly on him tbh</quote> Imagine the horrors Snowden would face in the US though, like going to college or earning money from speaking gigs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheHoldSteady 06/13/21 4:31:50 PM #103:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Imagine the horrors Snowden would face in the US though, like going to college or earning money from speaking gigs He'd probably spend a few decades or so in prison then he'd get out and do book tours --- If she says we partied, then I'm pretty sure we partied. I really don't remember. I remember we departed from our bodies. <cite>TheHoldSteady posted [p:954964294] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>Imagine the horrors Snowden would face in the US though, like going to college or earning money from speaking gigs </quote> He'd probably spend a few decades or so in prison then he'd get out and do book tours </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 06/13/21 4:35:54 PM #104:	He shouldn't be getting any time in prison. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:954964478] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>He shouldn't be getting any time in prison.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ultimate reaver 06/13/21 4:36:27 PM #106:	1337toothbrush posted... Broseph embarrassing himself again. Must be a fetish. neolibs gonna neolib --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:954964503] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite> <quote>Broseph embarrassing himself again. Must be a fetish.</quote> neolibs gonna neolib </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 06/13/21 4:37:39 PM #107:	metallica846 posted... We have been over the ways of doing things the right way and they were unavailable to him. Not only did he have options, he lied about using those options. Not your fault the media coverage of him was so dishonest but there's no reason to continue defending him now. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:954964556] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>metallica846 posted... </cite> <quote>We have been over the ways of doing things the right way and they were unavailable to him.</quote> Not only did he have options, he lied about using those options. Not your fault the media coverage of him was so dishonest but there's no reason to continue defending him now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Payzmaykr 06/13/21 4:39:45 PM #109:	Pretty shady. I am indifferent to Snowden, but the idea of being told youre safe and then becoming a political trading chip is messed up. <cite>Payzmaykr posted [p:954964656] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>Pretty shady. I am indifferent to Snowden, but the idea of being told youre safe and then becoming a political trading chip is messed up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 06/13/21 4:40:25 PM #110:	Whatever the CIA is paying Broseph is too much. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:954964681] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>Whatever the CIA is paying Broseph is too much.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 06/13/21 4:40:56 PM #111:	He had more options than that idk why you refuse to read the report. If he didn't have actual options he wouldn't have lied about using them. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:954964696] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>He had more options than that idk why you refuse to read the report. If he didn't have actual options he wouldn't have lied about using them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 06/13/21 4:41:36 PM #112:	Webmaster4531 posted... Whatever the CIA is paying Broseph is too much. Broseph_Stalin posted... Ah yes the entire house intelligence committee is actually controlled by the CIA who told them to publish a report admitting that the CIA hired an inexperienced, unqualified pathological liar and narcissist who was somehow able to get his hands on and leak 1.5 million classified documents from his relatively low level position with the agency. Detective earthquake has cracked another case! <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:954964722] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>Webmaster4531 posted... </cite> <quote>Whatever the CIA is paying Broseph is too much.</quote> Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>Ah yes the entire house intelligence committee is actually controlled by the CIA who told them to publish a report admitting that the CIA hired an inexperienced, unqualified pathological liar and narcissist who was somehow able to get his hands on and leak 1.5 million classified documents from his relatively low level position with the agency. Detective earthquake has cracked another case!</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 06/13/21 4:47:18 PM #113:	I already responded to that. You said it wasn't an Intelligence Committee report. The notion the House Intelligence Committee not knowing they were getting unconstitutional Intelligence is laughably absurd. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:954964957] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>I already responded to that. You said it wasn't an Intelligence Committee report. The notion the House Intelligence Committee not knowing they were getting unconstitutional Intelligence is laughably absurd.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 06/13/21 4:49:17 PM #115:	The reason these committees exist is for oversight you clown. The entire report is critical of the IC lmao <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:954965030] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>The reason these committees exist is for oversight you clown. The entire report is critical of the IC lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Proto_Spark 06/13/21 4:51:10 PM #116:	Funkydog posted... That's likely why they took him in to begin with. Their whole plan is to destabilise the west and cause infighting, which his presence helps with. Sending him back can help with it more and possibly get someone they want as well. tbf, Snowden wasn't trying to go to Russia, that was basically a layover to where he was intending to go (Ecuador/Cuba IIRC?) when the US cancelled his passport and he was effectively stuck there. Russia only accepted him when he ended up needing to apply for asylum. Though from Russia's perspective I 100% agree with this. <cite>Proto_Spark posted [p:954965104] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>Funkydog posted... </cite> <quote>That's likely why they took him in to begin with. Their whole plan is to destabilise the west and cause infighting, which his presence helps with. Sending him back can help with it more and possibly get someone they want as well.</quote> tbf, Snowden wasn't trying to go to Russia, that was basically a layover to where he was intending to go (Ecuador/Cuba IIRC?) when the US cancelled his passport and he was effectively stuck there. Russia only accepted him when he ended up needing to apply for asylum. Though from Russia's perspective I 100% agree with this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 06/13/21 4:53:45 PM #118:	Broseph_Stalin posted... The reason these committees exist is for oversight you clown. Exactly my point. They clearly are either incompetent or complicit while trying to punish Snowden for whistleblowing. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:954965196] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite><quote>The reason these committees exist is for oversight you clown.</quote>Exactly my point. They clearly are either incompetent or complicit while trying to punish Snowden for whistleblowing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 06/13/21 4:55:15 PM #119:	Guys IC stands for Intelligence Community, not Intelligence Committee --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:954965255] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>Guys IC stands for Intelligence Community, not Intelligence Committee</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 06/13/21 4:56:55 PM #120:	Webmaster4531 posted... trying to punish Snowden for whistleblowing. *Second, Snowden was not a whistleblower.* Under the law, publicly revealing classified information does not qualify someone as a whistleblower. However, disclosing classified information that shows fraud, waste, abuse, or other illegal activity to the appropriate law enforcement or oversight personnel-including to Congress--does make someone a whistleblower and affords them with critical protections. *Contrary to his public claims that he notified numerous NSA officials about what he believed to be illegal intelligence collection*, the Committee found no evidence that Snowden took any official effort to express concerns about U.S. intelligence activities-legal, moral, or otherwise-to any oversight officials within the U.S. Government, despite numerous avenues for him to do so. Snowden was aware of these avenues. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:954965329] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>Webmaster4531 posted... </cite> <quote>trying to punish Snowden for whistleblowing.</quote> Second, Snowden was not a whistleblower. Under the law, publicly revealing classified information does not qualify someone as a whistleblower. However, disclosing classified information that shows fraud, waste, abuse, or other illegal activity to the appropriate law enforcement or oversight personnel-including to Congress--does make someone a whistleblower and affords them with critical protections. Contrary to his public claims that he notified numerous NSA officials about what he believed to be illegal intelligence collection, the Committee found no evidence that Snowden took any official effort to express concerns about U.S. intelligence activities-legal, moral, or otherwise-to any oversight officials within the U.S. Government, despite numerous avenues for him to do so. Snowden was aware of these avenues. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 06/13/21 4:57:04 PM #121:	UnholyMudcrab posted... Guys IC stands for Intelligence Community, not Intelligence Committee In the end the committees are in the Intelligence Community. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:954965337] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite><quote>Guys IC stands for Intelligence Community, not Intelligence Committee</quote>In the end the committees are in the Intelligence Community.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 06/13/21 4:57:40 PM #122:	UnholyMudcrab posted... IC stands for Intelligence Community, not Intelligence Committee I love how 90% of the post exist ITT simply because these two dudes don't understand this lol <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:954965362] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted... </cite> <quote>IC stands for Intelligence Community, not Intelligence Committee</quote> I love how 90% of the post exist ITT simply because these two dudes don't understand this lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 06/13/21 4:57:57 PM #123:	Webmaster4531 posted... In the end the committees are in the Intelligence Community. They literally are not. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:954965376] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>Webmaster4531 posted... </cite> <quote>In the end the committees are in the Intelligence Community.</quote> They literally are not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 06/13/21 4:59:06 PM #125:	Broseph_Stalin posted... They literally are not. Google what a community is. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:954965420] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite><quote>They literally are not.</quote>Google what a community is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 06/13/21 4:59:46 PM #126:	Why would he have lied about making such reports in the first place if it wasn't a "real" option for whistleblowing? This board is so fucking stubborn, I swear. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:954965449] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>Why would he have lied about making such reports in the first place if it wasn't a "real" option for whistleblowing? This board is so fucking stubborn, I swear. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 06/13/21 5:00:50 PM #127:	Webmaster4531 posted... Google what a community is. THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IS NOT PART OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY HOW ARE YOU A REAL PERSON????? <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:954965485] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>Webmaster4531 posted... </cite> <quote>Google what a community is.</quote> THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IS NOT PART OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY HOW ARE YOU A REAL PERSON????? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 06/13/21 5:00:56 PM #128:	Webmaster4531 posted... UnholyMudcrab posted... Guys IC stands for Intelligence Community, not Intelligence Committee In the end the committees are in the Intelligence Community. They actually aren't, since the IC exists under the executive branch. The House Intelligence Committee has oversight duties, but it's not part of the IC itself. --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:954965489] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite><quote> Guys IC stands for Intelligence Community, not Intelligence Committee</quote>In the end the committees are in the Intelligence Community.</quote> They actually aren't, since the IC exists under the executive branch. The House Intelligence Committee has oversight duties, but it's not part of the IC itself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 06/13/21 5:06:05 PM #130:	metallica846 posted... Its a farce to say that Snowden could legally report what was being done So why did he claim to? <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:954965666] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>metallica846 posted... </cite> <quote>Its a farce to say that Snowden could legally report what was being done</quote> So why did he claim to? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 06/13/21 5:06:24 PM #131:	UnholyMudcrab posted... They actually aren't, since the IC exists under the executive branch. The House Intelligence Committee has oversight duties, but it's not part of the IC itself. Clearly separation of powers failed here when a incestuous committee fails to do it's job and tries to punish the person who did their job for them. Also google community. A police officer has oversight and is part of his community. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:954965674] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite><quote>They actually aren't, since the IC exists under the executive branch. The House Intelligence Committee has oversight duties, but it's not part of the IC itself.</quote>Clearly separation of powers failed here when a incestuous committee fails to do it's job and tries to punish the person who did their job for them. Also google community. A police officer has oversight and is part of his community.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
furb 06/13/21 5:07:17 PM #132:	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Intelligence_Community --- You know how fads are. Today it's brains, tomorrow, pierced tongues. Then the next day, pierced brains. -Jane Lane <cite>furb posted [p:954965716] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Intelligence_Community </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
furb 06/13/21 5:08:27 PM #133:	The intel community is part of executive branch. Congress has oversight via the intelligence committees but are not part of the USIC. As the USIC sits with the executive branch. --- You know how fads are. Today it's brains, tomorrow, pierced tongues. Then the next day, pierced brains. -Jane Lane <cite>furb posted [p:954965761] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>The intel community is part of executive branch. Congress has oversight via the intelligence committees but are not part of the USIC. As the USIC sits with the executive branch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 06/13/21 5:11:27 PM #134:	webmaster can't be a real person i just refuse to believe it <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:954965858] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>webmaster can't be a real person i just refuse to believe it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 06/13/21 5:25:38 PM #135:	Webmaster4531 posted... Whatever the CIA is paying Broseph is too much. he's a good boy earning good boy bucks --- https://imgur.com/ZngbqJn https://imgur.com/lbSi0U3 https://imgur.com/xaRYKZM <cite>ModLogic posted [p:954966356] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>Webmaster4531 posted... </cite> <quote>Whatever the CIA is paying Broseph is too much.</quote>he's a good boy earning good boy bucks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 06/13/21 5:27:29 PM #137:	metallica846 posted... Maybe he did. He didn't though. You just can't seem to explain why he lied about it. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:954966429] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>metallica846 posted... </cite> <quote>Maybe he did.</quote> He didn't though. You just can't seem to explain why he lied about it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 06/13/21 5:33:45 PM #139:	Imagine trusting the American authorities who were just proven to lie about why someone didn't come to them to admit they just lied. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:954966666] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>Imagine trusting the American authorities who were just proven to lie about why someone didn't come to them to admit they just lied. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masticatingman 06/13/21 5:34:32 PM #140:	He'd go to Gitmo for sure, let's get real on that one. Otherwise, Biden would just get constant pressure to issue him a pardon, which I gotta doubt would ever happen. --- To/fro from-towards <cite>masticatingman posted [p:954966698] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>He'd go to Gitmo for sure, let's get real on that one. Otherwise, Biden would just get constant pressure to issue him a pardon, which I gotta doubt would ever happen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 06/13/21 5:34:39 PM #141:	metallica846 posted... Who said he lied? The committee report. Which goes through his numerous lies. Which you refuse to read because you'd rather trust a pathological liar who leaked a bunch of stuff that had nothing to do with surveillance to the world's worst human rights abusers because he wanted to be famous. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:954966703] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>metallica846 posted... </cite> <quote>Who said he lied?</quote> The committee report. Which goes through his numerous lies. Which you refuse to read because you'd rather trust a pathological liar who leaked a bunch of stuff that had nothing to do with surveillance to the world's worst human rights abusers because he wanted to be famous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ModLogic 06/13/21 5:41:42 PM #143:	broseph the kind of cia buckie that believes the bullshit us military spun about kunduz hospital bombing being an accident --- https://imgur.com/ZngbqJn https://imgur.com/lbSi0U3 https://imgur.com/xaRYKZM <cite>ModLogic posted [p:954966991] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote> broseph the kind of cia buckie that believes the bullshit us military spun about kunduz hospital bombing being an accident </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 06/13/21 5:54:13 PM #144:	Why are people accusing Broseph of being a CIA asset rather than an NSA one? --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:954967528] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>Why are people accusing Broseph of being a CIA asset rather than an NSA one? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 06/13/21 5:59:04 PM #145:	Anteaterking posted... Why are people accusing Broseph of being a CIA asset rather than an NSA one? They're so incestuous it doesn't really matter. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:954967717] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>Anteaterking posted...</cite><quote>Why are people accusing Broseph of being a CIA asset rather than an NSA one?</quote>They're so incestuous it doesn't really matter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BenBeckman 06/13/21 6:05:29 PM #146:	Delirious_Beard posted... snowden is not a whistleblower He is. And unlike the criminals in office and who head our [in]security bureaus, he is a true lover of America. <cite>BenBeckman posted [p:954967961] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>Delirious_Beard posted...</cite> <quote>snowden is not a whistleblower </quote> He is. And unlike the criminals in office and who head our [in]security bureaus, he is a true lover of America.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 06/13/21 11:00:52 PM #147:	how about this what was wrong about inform the American public? Who cares about all the nitty gritty details about this and that Explain why me and you knowing about this is bad and makes him not a whistleblower as you know, we are their bosses and they are accountable to us <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:954977714] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>how about this what was wrong about inform the American public? Who cares about all the nitty gritty details about this and that Explain why me and you knowing about this is bad and makes him not a whistleblower as you know, we are their bosses and they are accountable to us </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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skermac 06/13/21 11:07:20 PM #149:	Anyone else not care? --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive <cite>skermac posted [p:954977913] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>Anyone else not care? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 06/13/21 11:07:56 PM #150:	Robot2600 posted... He's said he would accept a trial by jury in America, he just doesn't want to disappear in Guantanamo Bay. Seems pretty fair to me. Like Chelsea Manning? Oh, no, wait... --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:954977934] in Snowden mi... [t:79510119]...</cite> <quote>Robot2600 posted... </cite> <quote>He's said he would accept a trial by jury in America, he just doesn't want to disappear in Guantanamo Bay. Seems pretty fair to me.</quote> Like Chelsea Manning? Oh, no, wait... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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