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Veggeta_EDGE
06/23/21 9:40:19 AM
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But why do they get such a pass on this?

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ZevLoveDOOM
06/23/21 9:41:53 AM
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cause they make good shit, that's why!
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NightMarishPie
06/23/21 9:42:21 AM
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It's okay when Nintendo does it.

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Squall28
06/23/21 9:42:27 AM
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The biggest offenders are Amiibos. People were hating paid DLC so much, but when Amiibos came out, the were suddenly the best thing ever.

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Veggeta_EDGE
06/23/21 9:43:03 AM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
cause they make good shit, that's why!
Not all their shit is good shit

NightMarishPie posted...
It's okay when Nintendo does it.
Why. Is it nostalgia that's giving you blind loyalty?

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Nukazie
06/23/21 9:43:48 AM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
cause they make good shit, that's why!


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The_Korey
06/23/21 9:43:55 AM
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Other kompanies were mostly faceless and the faces we did see were obvious when full of shit.

Nintendo has plenty of outdated foagies behind the scenes, but faces we did see, like Iwata, kould do no wrong.

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Veggeta X
06/23/21 9:45:02 AM
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Squall28 posted...
The biggest offenders are Amiibos. People were hating paid DLC so much, but when Amiibos came out, the were suddenly the best thing ever.
They almost never give a discount on their games. All of their old games on the Switch still costs 60 dollars LMAO.

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Veggeta X
06/23/21 9:47:05 AM
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The_Korey posted...
Other kompanies were mostly faceless and the faces we did see were obvious when full of shit.

Nintendo has plenty of outdated foagies behind the scenes, but faces we did see, like Iwata, kould do no wrong.
Please we saw Reggie for the longest time, who was fake as fuck, and yall still thought Nintendo could do no wrong.

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ZevLoveDOOM
06/23/21 9:47:16 AM
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would be dope if Nintendo had their own version of PS Now or Xbox Game Pass for the Switch. not only for Switch games but with games from older consoles as well.

but alas, i doubt its gonna happen...
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UnfairRepresent
06/23/21 9:48:25 AM
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Because fanboys are the worst

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krazychao5
06/23/21 9:49:36 AM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
would be dope if Nintendo had their own version of PS Now or Xbox Game Pass for the Switch. not only for Switch games but with games from older consoles as well.

but alas, i doubt its gonna happen...
have a decenet nes and snes library if you have nso, but i'd be nice to expand to other consoles

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Veggeta X
06/23/21 9:49:39 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Because fanboys are the worst
No no. Sadly this isn't just a fanboy thing. I've been on this websight for a long time and Nintendo has been largely been given a pass by tons of wouldbe reasonable people as well.

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Squall28
06/23/21 9:51:12 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
No no. Sadly this isn't just a fanboy thing. I've been on this websight for a long time and Nintendo has been largely been given a pass by tons of wouldbe reasonable people as well.

It is. This is Nintendofaqs. Why you think Zelda usually battle polls.

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The_Korey
06/23/21 9:54:40 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
Please we saw Reggie for the longest time, who was fake as fuck, and yall still thought Nintendo could do no wrong.

No idea what Reg has ever done. He's (formerly) NoA's president. The games and bigger decisions about them primarily kome from Japan.

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Veggeta X
06/23/21 9:56:10 AM
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The_Korey posted...
No idea what Reg has ever done. He's (formerly) NoA's president.
He was the face of Nintendo for a lot of things.

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ModLogic
06/23/21 9:57:32 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Because fanboys are the worst
sony and microsoft has fanboys

nintendo has cultists

its a completely different level of blind devotion

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The_Korey
06/23/21 10:03:48 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
He was the face of Nintendo for a lot of things.

It'd still be weird/dumb to blame him for things he would obviously have little to nothing to do with.

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Veggeta X
06/23/21 10:05:50 AM
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The_Korey posted...
It'd still be weird/dumb to blame him for things he would obviously have little to nothing to do with.
You said portrayals/faces of Nintendo factor in making them look innocent to the point of where they could do no wrong. Reggie, who has an unlikeable fake business personality, has been a face of Nintendo for a very LONG time and yet that hasn't curved anyone's judgement towards the company. I'm just using your logic here.

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asdf8562
06/23/21 10:19:32 AM
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Veggeta_EDGE posted...
Not all their shit is good shit

Why. Is it nostalgia that's giving you blind loyalty?
Partially. But I'd say they drop the most high quality games that age well. Compared to Sony and Microsoft.

Definitely wouldn't say all of their games are high quality ofc. But Nintendo seems to better IMO at making niche unique games/consoles and popular games that last the test of time.

I'd say somewhere in the ballpark of 60% nostalgic/ 40% they are going to drop a high quality game. Like I have no doubts BotW2 whenever it comes out will be great. Doesn't help that Nintendo knows people will put up with their antics, so God only knows when BotW2 will ever release.

It took how long for them to release more info, and frankly that additional info IMO opinion wasn't much....
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Veggeta X
06/23/21 10:22:19 AM
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asdf8562 posted...
But Nintendo seems to better IMO at making niche unique games/consoles and popular games that last the test of time.
Like Mario Kart?

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Kloe_Rinz
06/23/21 10:23:14 AM
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They still make good games a lot of the time unlike most western devs
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Veggeta X
06/23/21 10:24:58 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
They still make good games a lot of the time unlike most western devs
Like Mario Kart?

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BakonBitz
06/23/21 10:25:49 AM
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Squall28 posted...
The biggest offenders are Amiibos. People were hating paid DLC so much, but when Amiibos came out, the were suddenly the best thing ever.
I felt like the concept was different because one amiibo could be used on multiple games, but I quickly saw that Nintendo stopped doing that and essentially just made it game-specific DLC.

Now I only get amiibo that I really want for display purposes and just use a tag to unlock amiibo stuff in games.

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Flamer_Blue
06/23/21 10:25:59 AM
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I don't hate Nintendo because afterall they are a company and they are in the business to make money.
However, I hate their fanboys which think Nintendo can do nothing bad (even though they have done quite a few scummy moves).
Take for example, the price hike for games.
Supposedly it was done because next gen games and hd resolutions would mean more developing money.
So it was logical that Sony and MS would raise the praise of their games, but Nintendo too?
Even though their games were max 480p?

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Veggeta X
06/23/21 10:27:30 AM
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Flamer_Blue posted...
I don't hate Nintendo because afterall they are a company and they are in the business to make money.
Do you hold the same standard for everything else?

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Musourenka
06/23/21 10:29:12 AM
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Partly because of their IPs and partly because, at least compared to companies like Sony and Microsoft, they have the "face" of Friendly Game Company rather than greedy corporation. I'm sure if Sega was still in the console business, they would have a similar reputation (or at least one closer to Games! rather than Evil Corp!).

Granted, a lot of it is due to 80s and 90s goodwill that they're doing their best to kill, but alas.

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Kloe_Rinz
06/23/21 10:29:53 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
Like Mario Kart?
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Veggeta X
06/23/21 10:31:09 AM
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Musourenka posted...
Partly because of their IPs and partly because, at least compared to companies like Sony and Microsoft, they have the "face" of Friendly Game Company rather than greedy corporation. I'm sure if Sega was still in the console business, they would have a similar reputation (or at least one closer to Games! rather than Evil Corp!).

Granted, a lot of it is due to 80s and 90s goodwill that they're doing their best to kill, but alas.
See the thing is people are able to realize Nintendo is full of shit and they still buy into their shit. Why not accept the label of being a blind Ninten fanboy at this point?

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Musourenka
06/23/21 10:37:12 AM
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Veggeta X posted...
See the thing is people are able to realize Nintendo is full of shit and they still buy into their shit. Why not accept the label of being a blind Ninten fanboy at this point?

Are we talking in terms of prefering Nintendo to Sony and Microsoft, or in terms of "Nintendo can do no wrong?" If it's the latter, I agree with you.


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NightMarishPie
06/23/21 10:48:57 AM
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Veggeta_EDGE posted...
Not all their shit is good shit

Why. Is it nostalgia that's giving you blind loyalty?
I was trolling, but people are proving what I said in this very thread, so there's that I guess.

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VitalGetPrank
06/23/21 11:54:24 AM
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Squall28 posted...
The biggest offenders are Amiibos. People were hating paid DLC so much, but when Amiibos came out, the were suddenly the best thing ever.
They're not technically DLC, just some things that offer small bonuses on several games, it's only recently that they started being used as physical DLC.

Either way I don't get how they became so popular.

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Proto_Spark
06/23/21 11:58:58 AM
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People are way more willing to accept crap practices if they still provide a good experience.

Because Nintendo games very often provide a good and enjoyable game, people are much more likely to look past that the online sucks, the games never go on sale (or never a worthwhile sale), that all of the games worth playing on a Nintendo console tend to be Nintendo exclusive (otherwise play it on something else), etc...

And this applies to plenty of other companies too, for other reasons this can be applied to both Sony and Microsoft, companies like Apple, Amazon, etc...

If that goodwill ever goes away though, they're ****ed.
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SwayM
06/23/21 12:12:33 PM
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The well they make good games narrative is complete and utter bullshit.

Do they make good game? Of course. Occasionally.

Is that an excuse to be the laziest, most anti consumer company on the market? No.

Compared to the other two, Nintendo games and services are embarrassing. Their online system is an absolute joke. Their store and library is abysmal. Theyve already figured that shit out on the Wii.

Nintendo might be one of the worst managed companies in all of entertainment if you think of it.

What other company in 2021 is allergic to letting people buy their shit. What other company refuses to embrace the internet and meet people where they shop. Offer all their games in a huge library? Fuckin game over.

Microsoft has the best deal in gaming with Gamepass. Yet they dont have a fraction of the library Nintendo has. I could only imagine what competent management could do to bring Nintendo into the modern era.

Their inability to reduce console/game prices fuckin DECADES after release is unacceptable.

No other company would get away with any of this shit.

For example. The backlash Sony got when they planned to shut down the Vita and PS3 stores, gamers rose up (Im being ironic) and voiced legit concerns. Sony went back on that decision.

Meanwhile Nintendo closes the Wii store, was there backlash? Who knows. Probably minuscule by comparison, not like it ever matters cus when has Nintendo shown they give a flying fuck.

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Proto_Spark
06/23/21 12:22:14 PM
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SwayM posted...
Meanwhile Nintendo closes the Wii store, was there backlash? Who knows. Probably minuscule by comparison, not like it ever matters cus when has Nintendo shown they give a flying f***.

I mean, Nintendo shut down the Wii store in a way better way. They stopped letting you put money on it, like a year+ before the service shut down and gave everyone a ton of notice that it was getting shut down before they did so, and you can still re-download all your games. whereas Sony just said "PSN for PS3 and Vita going away in like 3 months" without explaining enough to see if people's digital purchases were going to still be available or not. Sony also didn't get nearly as much backlash when they shut down the PSP store

Its not just "they make good games" that is why people don't seem to care, its "they provide a good enough experience I'm willing to make some concessions" mostly because they tend to provide a good enough product and have standing goodwill with their customers.

It also probably helps that Nintendo is the only one in their current market of "video games, but like, the fun kind" while Xbox and Sony are fighting over things like graphics and intensity. Nintendo doesn't really have much competition in the way of "we included 2 controllers in our console so you can immediately play with your friends!"
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Choco
06/23/21 12:23:23 PM
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Veggeta_EDGE posted...
But why do they get such a pass on this?
they don't

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Wetterdew
06/23/21 12:28:27 PM
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People ask that a lot, "WHY DOES NINTENDO GET A PASS ON IT", but they really don't. People criticize Nintendo's pricing CONSTANTLY. Both for ports and for new games (this week people have been criticizing Metroid and Advance Wars)

It's not like people don't complain about it.

The real question you should be asking is "why do people continue to pay these high prices for nintendo's games?" and I guess the answer is enough people like the games enough to still be willing to pay those prices

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FortuneCookie
06/23/21 12:37:11 PM
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In the early days of the NES, third-party developers were limited to five games a year and disallowed from publishing games on rival consoles.
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El Mexicano Texano
06/23/21 12:45:58 PM
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Mario Kart 8 Deluxe has the worse DLC to get all Mii costumes you need 20 amiibo ignoring tax let's just go with $15 each = $300

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Will_VIIII
06/23/21 12:52:58 PM
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IMO Nintendo is the only company that does DLC/expansion passes correctly.

With literally every other company it's a smaller character roster, less tracks, DLC special character chapters etc

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Guide
06/23/21 12:55:33 PM
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Veggeta_EDGE posted...
But why do they get such a pass on this?

I feel like Nintendo has the same marketing hooks as Apple. Not entirely sure how that works, but they attract people with diehard mentalities.

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Veggeta X
06/23/21 1:00:30 PM
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Wetterdew posted...
People ask that a lot, "WHY DOES NINTENDO GET A PASS ON IT", but they really don't. People criticize Nintendo's pricing CONSTANTLY. Both for ports and for new games (this week people have been criticizing Metroid and Advance Wars)
They do when compared to others. The standard is not held the same for Nintendo.

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Wetterdew
06/23/21 1:32:40 PM
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Veggeta X posted...
They do when compared to others. The standard is not held the same for Nintendo.
I don't agree, I see loads of complaining about nintendo's pricing on places like this. The only difference is that despite the widespread complaints, nintendo games sell anyway.

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SwayM
06/23/21 1:43:07 PM
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Proto_Spark posted...
Nintendo shut down the Wii store in a way better way.

Shutting down the better way? Okay they let people know. Yet they shut it down and replaced it with nothing. Their store on the Switch is severely lacking. Any other company would kill to have Nintendos library. And its a shame Nintendos Library is managed by Nintendo. Imagine any other company with it. They have no idea how to let consumers give them money for their products. Like absolute morons manage this company I swear.

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because this minuscule amount of comparing youre seeing here is nothing. Its not the same, any other company does ANYTHING, and its article after article, thread after thread of complaints and pitchforks. and it doesnt let up, ever, even long after the problems no longer exist. See Epic Game Store. See No Mans Sky.

I make a topic about certain games, companies or services. See if I get even one positive reply. In this topic literally criticizing Nintendo, there are defenders coming out of any woodwork they can squeeze through.

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