Current Events > "Biology is a pretty gender equitable science"

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https://twitter.com/gbaucom/status/1407023714349326344?s=19

Wait...

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Why don't they publish more women science? Wasnt it impossible for men to figure out corn genetics before, uh, is it Keller? Something like that

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tbf, most full professorships were given their jobs like 30 years ago, and a lot of associate professorships are the same way. So if you want an interest about the future, you need to look at people who are currently post-docs or associate professors.

And I mean, it looks solid for biological sciences in the future (at least in terms of gender equality), though academia is both a crazy competitive field and not a very high-paying one, so a lot of those post docs may very well drop out of academia when they don't progress as fast as they may want to.

Proto_Spark posted...

tbf, most full professorships were given their jobs like 30 years ago, and a lot of associate professorships are the same way. So if you want an interest about the future, you need to look at people who are currently post-docs or associate professors.

And I mean, it looks solid for biological sciences in the future (at least in terms of gender equality), though academia is both a crazy competitive field and not a very high-paying one, so a lot of those post docs may very well drop out of academia when they don't progress as fast as they may want to.

Well, this is the tweet that led me to that post:
https://twitter.com/snappysparrowmh/status/1407432411831586827?s=19

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COVxy posted...

Well, this is the tweet that led me to that post:
https://twitter.com/snappysparrowmh/status/1407432411831586827?s=19

Yeah, that seems about right. Academia just like, sucks nowadays so barely anyone wants to stay in it. Especially when you realize there are way too many people competing for way too few jobs and getting paid way too little for it.

To the best of my knowledge, the grad students in my department is pretty close to 50;50 (I would think, I haven't seen all of them since before Covid) though I'm in a small department and this basically changes every year or two when the new Masters students start.

Yeah, the fact that the majority of PhD students start out wanting be in academia and by the end of the degree it's closer to a toss up indicates that there are fundamentally unpleasant things about academia generally.

The fact that drop out of the academic career path is biased along gender suggests something else is going on as well, though.

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COVxy posted...

Yeah, the fact that the majority of PhD students start out wanting be in academia and by the end of the degree it's closer to a toss up indicates that there are fundamentally unpleasant things about academia generally.

The fact that drop out of the academic career path is biased along gender suggests something else is going on as well, though.

Definitely some other stuff going on, though it might fall under the same stuff that tends to push women out of like, higher corporate jobs and such.

My master's supervisor is a woman, and while I certainly hope the stuff she had to put up with is gone, I can't really believe its 100% removed.