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Guide 07/12/21 1:52:59 PM #51:	spikethedevil posted... No one is a better driver drunk. Ah, no, I recall the story. He's better drunk because that's the only time he's not literally a berserker rage nutjob. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:956008579] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>spikethedevil posted... </cite> <quote>No one is a better driver drunk.</quote> Ah, no, I recall the story. He's better drunk because that's the only time he's not literally a berserker rage nutjob. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 07/12/21 1:54:45 PM #52:	Guide posted... Yes, that still significantly impairs your driving ability. there's the added fun that you think you're less impaired then you really are and are more likely to take stupid risks. i've had friends call asking for a ride when they were almost black out drunk, those same friends have gotten into accidents driving when they were 'buzzed'. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:956008639] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted... </cite> <quote>Yes, that still significantly impairs your driving ability.</quote>there's the added fun that you think you're less impaired then you really are and are more likely to take stupid risks. i've had friends call asking for a ride when they were almost black out drunk, those same friends have gotten into accidents driving when they were 'buzzed'. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cuttin_in_farm 07/12/21 2:05:30 PM #54:	Conflict posted... Lol how do you not see how completely understandable of a situation this is? Unless you were super paranoid about your car getting stolen or your job location is a significant distance from your house (I'm talking 30 miles) you could've definitely paid for an uber to go to work the next day. Or I could just sleep in my car and drive home when I was sober. I lived 30 minutes from work. Dunno why the manager was against me sleeping in a parked car. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:956008987] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>Lol how do you not see how completely understandable of a situation this is? Unless you were super paranoid about your car getting stolen or your job location is a significant distance from your house (I'm talking 30 miles) you could've definitely paid for an uber to go to work the next day.</quote> Or I could just sleep in my car and drive home when I was sober. I lived 30 minutes from work. Dunno why the manager was against me sleeping in a parked car. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/12/21 2:08:44 PM #57:	cuttin_in_farm posted... Or I could just sleep in my car and drive home when I was sober. That's still a "DUI" in most jurisdictions, somehow. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:956009076] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted... </cite> <quote>Or I could just sleep in my car and drive home when I was sober.</quote>That's still a "DUI" in most jurisdictions, somehow. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 07/12/21 2:10:42 PM #58:	Questionmarktarius posted... That's still a "DUI" in most jurisdictions, somehow. We call it drunk and in charge in the UK. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:956009134] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>That's still a "DUI" in most jurisdictions, somehow.</quote> We call it drunk and in charge in the UK. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/12/21 2:11:32 PM #59:	Questionmarktarius posted... cuttin_in_farm posted... Or I could just sleep in my car and drive home when I was sober. That's still a "DUI" in most jurisdictions, somehow. Isn't that only if you have your keys in the ignition (or the car turned on if it's a push-button start)? Or am I mistaken? --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:956009165] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted... Or I could just sleep in my car and drive home when I was sober. That's still a "DUI" in most jurisdictions, somehow.</quote> Isn't that only if you have your keys in the ignition (or the car turned on if it's a push-button start)? Or am I mistaken? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Yahtz09 07/12/21 2:14:58 PM #60:	Questionmarktarius posted... That's still a "DUI" in most jurisdictions, somehow. Yeah, there was an Everybody Loves Raymond episode that deals with it. I thought it was funny until my buddy lived it. We met at Walmart to leave all but one car for a float trip (common practice in the area), then he got too drunk and was still drunk when we made it back to our cars. He was going to sleep it off in his car. He went to sleep in the parking lot and was woken up by the cops. Luckily he was able to get the charge dropped, but he still had to pay $3K in lawyer and legal fees. CableZL posted... Isn't that only if you have your keys in the ignition (or the car turned on if it's a push-button start)? Or am I mistaken? The "in the ignition" bit is dependent on the local laws. Some places its keys anywhere in the vehicle. I think others don't even need to have the keys on you. The assumption is if you are able to get in the car you have a way to get it started (imo this is pretty dumb). monkmith posted... ha, you've never been in a car with a guy going 100mph down the highway weaving between cars and screaming because someone 'cut him off'. only significant car accident i've ever been in was with him, and it happened because he was stone cold sober and raging... The problem isn't that he is sober, its that he has uncontrollable rage issues that he apparently self-medicates with alcohol. A person like this probably shouldn't have a license and enroll in anger management. If the only way you can drive safely is while impaired, that isn't safely, though it may be less dangerous in extreme examples like this one. --- Arkansas Razorbacks \|\| Oklahoma City Thunder \|\| Cleveland Sports <cite>The_Yahtz09 posted [p:956009269] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>That's still a "DUI" in most jurisdictions, somehow.</quote>Yeah, there was an Everybody Loves Raymond episode that deals with it. I thought it was funny until my buddy lived it. We met at Walmart to leave all but one car for a float trip (common practice in the area), then he got too drunk and was still drunk when we made it back to our cars. He was going to sleep it off in his car. He went to sleep in the parking lot and was woken up by the cops. Luckily he was able to get the charge dropped, but he still had to pay $3K in lawyer and legal fees. CableZL posted... </cite> <quote>Isn't that only if you have your keys in the ignition (or the car turned on if it's a push-button start)? Or am I mistaken?</quote>The "in the ignition" bit is dependent on the local laws. Some places its keys anywhere in the vehicle. I think others don't even need to have the keys on you. The assumption is if you are able to get in the car you have a way to get it started (imo this is pretty dumb). monkmith posted... </cite> <quote>ha, you've never been in a car with a guy going 100mph down the highway weaving between cars and screaming because someone 'cut him off'. only significant car accident i've ever been in was with him, and it happened because he was stone cold sober and raging...</quote>The problem isn't that he is sober, its that he has uncontrollable rage issues that he apparently self-medicates with alcohol. A person like this probably shouldn't have a license and enroll in anger management. If the only way you can drive safely is while impaired, that isn't safely, though it may be less dangerous in extreme examples like this one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Woodger 07/12/21 2:27:27 PM #61:	Drink driving definitely should be judged and shamed. Speeding too actually - that's weirdly more acceptable, even though it kills more people. Each 5mph above the limit has an equivalent risk to an additional 0.05% blood alcohol concentration while driving at the limit. <cite>Woodger posted [p:956009612] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Drink driving definitely should be judged and shamed. Speeding too actually - that's weirdly more acceptable, even though it kills more people. Each 5mph above the limit has an equivalent risk to an additional 0.05% blood alcohol concentration while driving at the limit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 07/12/21 2:31:11 PM #62:	tailgating, constant land changing and thinking the speed limit is a speed suggestion is infinitely more moronic behavior --- https://youtu.be/l-iLiNCScno https://imgur.com/ZngbqJn https://imgur.com/lbSi0U3 https://imgur.com/xaRYKZM <cite>ModLogic posted [p:956009731] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>tailgating, constant land changing and thinking the speed limit is a speed suggestion is infinitely more moronic behavior </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shezarr 07/12/21 2:39:27 PM #63:	Woodger posted... Each 5mph above the limit has an equivalent risk to an additional 0.05% blood alcohol concentration while driving at the limit. I'd like to see a source on this. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:956009993] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Woodger posted... </cite> <quote>Each 5mph above the limit has an equivalent risk to an additional 0.05% blood alcohol concentration while driving at the limit.</quote>I'd like to see a source on this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turtlebread 07/12/21 2:45:59 PM #64:	6 DUIs man what an idiot if you're not good enough to avoid the cops when you're driving drunk then you shouldn't be driving drunk at all --- https://imgur.com/yCW15Zn <cite>Turtlebread posted [p:956010152] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>6 DUIs man what an idiot if you're not good enough to avoid the cops when you're driving drunk then you shouldn't be driving drunk at all </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 07/12/21 2:46:45 PM #65:	Turtlebread posted... 6 DUIs man what an idiot if you're not good enough to avoid the cops when you're driving drunk then you shouldn't be driving drunk at all You shouldnt be driving drunk at all ffs. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:956010176] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Turtlebread posted... </cite> <quote>6 DUIs man what an idiot if you're not good enough to avoid the cops when you're driving drunk then you shouldn't be driving drunk at all</quote> You shouldnt be driving drunk at all ffs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Karate_II 07/12/21 2:46:48 PM #66:	Turtlebread posted... 6 DUIs man what an idiot if you're not good enough to avoid the cops when you're driving drunk then you shouldn't be driving drunk at all You shouldn't be doing it anyway --- Currently Playing: Resident Evil 4 Mercenaries Mode,Resident Evil 6 Mercenaries Mode & Call of Duty Ghosts <cite>Mr_Karate_II posted [p:956010177] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Turtlebread posted... </cite> <quote>6 DUIs man what an idiot if you're not good enough to avoid the cops when you're driving drunk then you shouldn't be driving drunk at all</quote>You shouldn't be doing it anyway </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 07/12/21 2:48:32 PM #67:	My dad was in prison for driving drunk too much when I was born. I remember being young and him picking me up from school for the first time ever the day he got his license back. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:956010238] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>My dad was in prison for driving drunk too much when I was born. I remember being young and him picking me up from school for the first time ever the day he got his license back. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 07/12/21 3:29:00 PM #68:	Conflict posted... You couldn't hang around on the property overnight and you could've very easily drove off while "sleeping in your car". 30 minutes is like a $20 setback You can just ask me for context instead of making it up. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Self fulfilling prophecy. If he feared that, he could have just asked for my keys then. I wanted to sober up. But dweebs who think everyone who drinks alcohol turns into an unreasonable rager cant judge correctly. Ironically, his insistence on an uber is what caused me to drive away. Questionmarktarius posted... That's still a "DUI" in most jurisdictions, somehow. Yea, its very counter productive imo. Folks will get drunk. I would feel much safer if they were allowed to sleep it off in their cars. Telling someone they will have to take another ride isnt always received well for multiple reasons. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:956011427] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>You couldn't hang around on the property overnight and you could've very easily drove off while "sleeping in your car". 30 minutes is like a $20 setback</quote> You can just ask me for context instead of making it up. <cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Self fulfilling prophecy. If he feared that, he could have just asked for my keys then. I wanted to sober up. But dweebs who think everyone who drinks alcohol turns into an unreasonable rager cant judge correctly. Ironically, his insistence on an uber is what caused me to drive away. Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>That's still a "DUI" in most jurisdictions, somehow.</quote> Yea, its very counter productive imo. Folks will get drunk. I would feel much safer if they were allowed to sleep it off in their cars. Telling someone they will have to take another ride isnt always received well for multiple reasons. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 07/12/21 3:47:22 PM #70:	CableZL posted... Isn't that only if you have your keys in the ignition (or the car turned on if it's a push-button start)? Or am I mistaken? Nope. If you're anywhere besides your own home, then the assumption is that you had to drive yourself there. So you can still get charged with a DUI. Tons of cases like that in California. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 \| i9-10900K \| EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra \| 32GB DDR4 3600 \| 4TB SSD <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:956011977] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite> <quote>Isn't that only if you have your keys in the ignition (or the car turned on if it's a push-button start)? Or am I mistaken?</quote>Nope. If you're anywhere besides your own home, then the assumption is that you had to drive yourself there. So you can still get charged with a DUI. Tons of cases like that in California. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 07/12/21 4:10:21 PM #71:	You actually have to be in the car in the UK iirc. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:956012648] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>You actually have to be in the car in the UK iirc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssk9716757 07/12/21 4:11:13 PM #72:	Mareen posted... In all honesty, a bad decision doesn't always warrant harsh judgment. what about 6 bad decisions tho --- I am the nucleus. <cite>ssk9716757 posted [p:956012672] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Mareen posted... </cite> <quote>In all honesty, a bad decision doesn't always warrant harsh judgment.</quote> what about 6 bad decisions tho </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cuttin_in_farm 07/12/21 4:56:13 PM #73:	Conflict posted... ...Nothing was made up. Conflict posted... You couldn't hang around on the property overnight Conflict posted... That's not why people are against driving while inebriated. That was not my point. Try reading my post again. This time dont cut off the relevant part. I was referring to why people assume someone wanting to sleep off alcohol in their cars will drive off. Its a pessimist assumption. Please stop assuming my stance based on other perspectives youve seen. Thats what I assume youre doing. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:956014052] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>...Nothing was made up.</quote> Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>You couldn't hang around on the property overnight</quote> Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>That's not why people are against driving while inebriated.</quote> That was not my point. Try reading my post again. This time dont cut off the relevant part. I was referring to why people assume someone wanting to sleep off alcohol in their cars will drive off. Its a pessimist assumption. Please stop assuming my stance based on other perspectives youve seen. Thats what I assume youre doing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cuttin_in_farm 07/12/21 5:10:54 PM #75:	Conflict posted... It's not about "assuming someone will drive off", it's about the fact that it's still something that can happen, and they're preventing it from potentially happening at all. Im not sure what youre trying to say. Agree to disagree. If someone tells me they want to sleep it off in a car, especially one of my employees, I would let them. Theres a chance theyll drive off, but unless Im watching them 24/7, that chance is always there. So I digress. Conflict posted... And yes, 99% of places would not let you stay on the property overnight... So context you made up. Not only did I never mention wanting to sleep overnight (or even drinking in the evening for that matter), but the restaurant I was at could not care less for cars in the parking lot overnight unless it was clearly unoccupied. Conflict posted... You're not getting sympathy when (unless you live in a REALLY bad neighborhood) all listening to what your manager suggested would've resulted in was a $20 uber ride the next morning. Sure. Though for clarification, Im not asking for sympathy. I brought up my anecdote to see if there is any leniency on how people feel on drunk driving depending on severity. Most have 0 tolerance. Thats fine. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. <cite>cuttin_in_farm posted [p:956014501] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>It's not about "assuming someone will drive off", it's about the fact that it's still something that can happen, and they're preventing it from potentially happening at all.</quote> Im not sure what youre trying to say. Agree to disagree. If someone tells me they want to sleep it off in a car, especially one of my employees, I would let them. Theres a chance theyll drive off, but unless Im watching them 24/7, that chance is always there. So I digress. Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>And yes, 99% of places would not let you stay on the property overnight...</quote> So context you made up. Not only did I never mention wanting to sleep overnight (or even drinking in the evening for that matter), but the restaurant I was at could not care less for cars in the parking lot overnight unless it was clearly unoccupied. Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>You're not getting sympathy when (unless you live in a REALLY bad neighborhood) all listening to what your manager suggested would've resulted in was a $20 uber ride the next morning.</quote> Sure. Though for clarification, Im not asking for sympathy. I brought up my anecdote to see if there is any leniency on how people feel on drunk driving depending on severity. Most have 0 tolerance. Thats fine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sabrestorm 07/12/21 5:13:16 PM #76:	Perascamin posted... Not all DUIs are equal though. Some people will blow above the limit on 2 beers but be completely coherent/coordinated no they think they are coherent but they arent <cite>sabrestorm posted [p:956014565] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Perascamin posted... </cite> <quote>Not all DUIs are equal though. Some people will blow above the limit on 2 beers but be completely coherent/coordinated</quote> no they think they are coherent but they arent </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryuko_Chan 07/12/21 5:15:00 PM #77:	Why didnt you just take the Uber? --- - silverhyruler post <cite>Ryuko_Chan posted [p:956014619] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Why didnt you just take the Uber? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaterLink 07/12/21 5:23:26 PM #78:	We need stricter driving laws in general. If you get two major driving violations in a certain time frame you should have your licensed revoked for, lets say, 5 years. For DUIs, first offense revocation. Jail time for driving an unregistered or uninsured vehicle or driving without a valid driver's license. The driving test is a joke to pass and puts new dangerous drivers on the road every day that think the road belongs to them with no regard for others. So many people don't care about paying the fine when they get caught or they haggle out a deal to drop it to a nonmoving violation so people will pay up more because the cities only care about collecting their money and not actually deterring bad road behavior. More people need to understand that driving something that weighs 1-2 tons going at the speeds they go at isn't a right, it's a privilege that should be easily taken away if you can't or refuse to take the safety of those around you into serious consideration --- https://imgur.com/TFF3Nn8 Joe Burrow, the legend <cite>WaterLink posted [p:956014863] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>We need stricter driving laws in general. If you get two major driving violations in a certain time frame you should have your licensed revoked for, lets say, 5 years. For DUIs, first offense revocation. Jail time for driving an unregistered or uninsured vehicle or driving without a valid driver's license. The driving test is a joke to pass and puts new dangerous drivers on the road every day that think the road belongs to them with no regard for others. So many people don't care about paying the fine when they get caught or they haggle out a deal to drop it to a nonmoving violation so people will pay up more because the cities only care about collecting their money and not actually deterring bad road behavior. More people need to understand that driving something that weighs 1-2 tons going at the speeds they go at isn't a right, it's a privilege that should be easily taken away if you can't or refuse to take the safety of those around you into serious consideration </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/12/21 7:19:25 PM #79:	I don't get why people are allowed to make so many driving violations in general. When I went to visit my dad's side of the family years ago, there was one lady I met who had 27 speeding tickets... Recently. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:956018472] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>I don't get why people are allowed to make so many driving violations in general. When I went to visit my dad's side of the family years ago, there was one lady I met who had 27 speeding tickets... Recently. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TreyFlowers 07/12/21 7:23:39 PM #80:	In Australia the legal BAC is 0.05. If someone had 2 beers at dinner, drove home, went through a booze bus and blew 0.06-0.08, a first time offense, I would be okay with them getting a lighter punishment. If they did it again, no dice, full extent of the law. If it's someone who's gone out, drank 10 beers and driven home and blown 0.15 or something, even if it's a first offense, full extent of the law. --- ...for it is better to be alone than in bad company. <cite>TreyFlowers posted [p:956018593] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>In Australia the legal BAC is 0.05. If someone had 2 beers at dinner, drove home, went through a booze bus and blew 0.06-0.08, a first time offense, I would be okay with them getting a lighter punishment. If they did it again, no dice, full extent of the law. If it's someone who's gone out, drank 10 beers and driven home and blown 0.15 or something, even if it's a first offense, full extent of the law. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 07/12/21 7:26:24 PM #81:	cuttin_in_farm posted... Im not sure what youre trying to say. Agree to disagree. If someone tells me they want to sleep it off in a car, especially one of my employees, I would let them. Theres a chance theyll drive off, but unless Im watching them 24/7, that chance is always there. So I digress. So context you made up. Not only did I never mention wanting to sleep overnight (or even drinking in the evening for that matter), but the restaurant I was at could not care less for cars in the parking lot overnight unless it was clearly unoccupied. Sure. Though for clarification, Im not asking for sympathy. I brought up my anecdote to see if there is any leniency on how people feel on drunk driving depending on severity. Most have 0 tolerance. Thats fine. Funny how most have 0 tolerance on people putting other peoples lives at risk because they didnt want to get an uber. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:956018667] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>cuttin_in_farm posted... </cite> <quote>Im not sure what youre trying to say. Agree to disagree. If someone tells me they want to sleep it off in a car, especially one of my employees, I would let them. Theres a chance theyll drive off, but unless Im watching them 24/7, that chance is always there. So I digress. So context you made up. Not only did I never mention wanting to sleep overnight (or even drinking in the evening for that matter), but the restaurant I was at could not care less for cars in the parking lot overnight unless it was clearly unoccupied. Sure. Though for clarification, Im not asking for sympathy. I brought up my anecdote to see if there is any leniency on how people feel on drunk driving depending on severity. Most have 0 tolerance. Thats fine.</quote> Funny how most have 0 tolerance on people putting other peoples lives at risk because they didnt want to get an uber. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Woodger 07/12/21 7:47:08 PM #82:	Shezarr posted... I'd like to see a source on this. I saw it on a couple of articles - just tracked down the source (page 53) - https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/safety/publications/1997/pdf/Speed_Risk_1.pdf It's actually in 5km/h (3mph) increments. The relative risk compared to sober at the speed limit is interesting/worrying. Doubles at 5km/h above and by 20km/h (12mph) above, the risk is 30 times higher. <cite>Woodger posted [p:956019373] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Shezarr posted... </cite> <quote>I'd like to see a source on this.</quote>I saw it on a couple of articles - just tracked down the source (page 53) - https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/safety/publications/1997/pdf/Speed_Risk_1.pdf It's actually in 5km/h (3mph) increments. The relative risk compared to sober at the speed limit is interesting/worrying. Doubles at 5km/h above and by 20km/h (12mph) above, the risk is 30 times higher. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Perascamin 07/12/21 11:18:04 PM #83:	Woodger posted... I saw it on a couple of articles - just tracked down the source (page 53) - https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/safety/publications/1997/pdf/Speed_Risk_1.pdf It's actually in 5km/h (3mph) increments. The relative risk compared to sober at the speed limit is interesting/worrying. Doubles at 5km/h above and by 20km/h (12mph) above, the risk is 30 times higher. That's complete bullshit --- I've grown. <cite>Perascamin posted [p:956025581] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Woodger posted... </cite> <quote>I saw it on a couple of articles - just tracked down the source (page 53) - https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/safety/publications/1997/pdf/Speed_Risk_1.pdf It's actually in 5km/h (3mph) increments. The relative risk compared to sober at the speed limit is interesting/worrying. Doubles at 5km/h above and by 20km/h (12mph) above, the risk is 30 times higher. </quote>That's complete bullshit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 07/13/21 12:34:53 AM #84:	Perascamin posted... That's complete bullshit By strange coincidence, if the blood alcohol concentration is multiplied by 100, you're fucking dead. 5% BAC is probably impossible, outside of absurd murder scenarios. The highest anyone's survived is 1.48, duded died later anyway from being mangled in a car wreck. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:956027412] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Perascamin posted... </cite> <quote>That's complete bullshit</quote>By strange coincidence, if the blood alcohol concentration is multiplied by 100, you're fucking dead. 5% BAC is probably impossible, outside of absurd murder scenarios. The highest anyone's survived is 1.48, duded died later anyway from being mangled in a car wreck. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Woodger 07/13/21 4:02:42 AM #85:	Perascamin posted... That's complete bullshit I mean, they detail the methodology in the report... Could argue the accuracy with it being localised and relatively small sample size, but interesting comparison still. Point is both are scumbag things to do, have historically killed millions of people, and there's no real excuse for them. <cite>Woodger posted [p:956030332] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Perascamin posted... </cite> <quote>That's complete bullshit</quote>I mean, they detail the methodology in the report... Could argue the accuracy with it being localised and relatively small sample size, but interesting comparison still. Point is both are scumbag things to do, have historically killed millions of people, and there's no real excuse for them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainOfCrush 07/13/21 4:20:43 AM #86:	I still feel guilty for twice allowing a buddy to drive buzzed after group hangouts. I "politely" try to talk him out of it and volunteer to drive him home, but I haven't had the stones to truly call him out in public and take his keys. Luckily, nothing has happened (yet), but I'm really surprised - and obviously disappointed - that he'd risk himself and others because he doesn't want the inconvenience of coming back for his car the next day. --- Yoblazer https://imgur.com/gByqgPg <cite>CaptainOfCrush posted [p:956030525] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>I still feel guilty for twice allowing a buddy to drive buzzed after group hangouts. I "politely" try to talk him out of it and volunteer to drive him home, but I haven't had the stones to truly call him out in public and take his keys. Luckily, nothing has happened (yet), but I'm really surprised - and obviously disappointed - that he'd risk himself and others because he doesn't want the inconvenience of coming back for his car the next day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 07/13/21 4:40:24 AM #87:	In my past, I've gotten black out drunk and woke up at home with my car there. I didn't make the conscious decision to drive drunk. I'm not proud of it and am eternally grateful I never hit anyone or cost them their lives and it was something that happened multiple times. So yea sometimes it isn't always a choice you make. I in no way condone drinking and driving and always fell terrible when ever I think about it. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 Boop Trooper reporting for duty. <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:956030716] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>In my past, I've gotten black out drunk and woke up at home with my car there. I didn't make the conscious decision to drive drunk. I'm not proud of it and am eternally grateful I never hit anyone or cost them their lives and it was something that happened multiple times. So yea sometimes it isn't always a choice you make. I in no way condone drinking and driving and always fell terrible when ever I think about it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 07/13/21 7:20:25 AM #88:	IfGodCouldDie posted... In my past, I've gotten black out drunk and woke up at home with my car there. I didn't make the conscious decision to drive drunk. I'm not proud of it and am eternally grateful I never hit anyone or cost them their lives and it was something that happened multiple times. So yea sometimes it isn't always a choice you make. I in no way condone drinking and driving and always fell terrible when ever I think about it. If this happens more than once, isn't keeping your keys when you get black out drunk a choice? You could give them to a friend/bartender etc <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:956032320] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>IfGodCouldDie posted... </cite> <quote>In my past, I've gotten black out drunk and woke up at home with my car there. I didn't make the conscious decision to drive drunk. I'm not proud of it and am eternally grateful I never hit anyone or cost them their lives and it was something that happened multiple times. So yea sometimes it isn't always a choice you make. I in no way condone drinking and driving and always fell terrible when ever I think about it.</quote> If this happens more than once, isn't keeping your keys when you get black out drunk a choice? You could give them to a friend/bartender etc </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 07/13/21 7:30:02 AM #89:	Ruvan22 posted... If this happens more than once, isn't keeping your keys when you get black out drunk a choice? You could give them to a friend/bartender etc Not necessarily a conscious choice. It was a thing that happened to me multiple times and if I had been smarter in my youth I would have thought about that and likely made that decision, but it was never something that even crossed my mind. Nowadays I don't drive if I plan to have even one drink. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 Boop Trooper reporting for duty. <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:956032437] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite> <quote>If this happens more than once, isn't keeping your keys when you get black out drunk a choice? You could give them to a friend/bartender etc</quote>Not necessarily a conscious choice. It was a thing that happened to me multiple times and if I had been smarter in my youth I would have thought about that and likely made that decision, but it was never something that even crossed my mind. Nowadays I don't drive if I plan to have even one drink. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TuckersImp 07/13/21 7:33:43 AM #90:	Mareen posted... In all honesty, a bad decision doesn't always warrant harsh judgment. This --- https://images.app.goo.gl/UTtGoLvRBsGKBHKS9 <cite>TuckersImp posted [p:956032483] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Mareen posted...</cite> <quote>In all honesty, a bad decision doesn't always warrant harsh judgment.</quote> This</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 07/13/21 9:51:46 AM #91:	IfGodCouldDie posted... Not necessarily a conscious choice. It was a thing that happened to me multiple times and if I had been smarter in my youth I would have thought about that and likely made that decision, but it was never something that even crossed my mind. Nowadays I don't drive if I plan to have even one drink. Well that (not driving now) is a great step so props <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:956035005] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>IfGodCouldDie posted... </cite> <quote>Not necessarily a conscious choice. It was a thing that happened to me multiple times and if I had been smarter in my youth I would have thought about that and likely made that decision, but it was never something that even crossed my mind. Nowadays I don't drive if I plan to have even one drink.</quote> Well that (not driving now) is a great step so props </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WarmLeatherette 07/13/21 9:53:27 AM #92:	Drunk and drugged drivers should lose their licenses permanently. No ifs, buts or coconuts. --- See the breaking glass In the underpass <cite>WarmLeatherette posted [p:956035057] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Drunk and drugged drivers should lose their licenses permanently. No ifs, buts or coconuts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 07/13/21 9:56:34 AM #93:	TuckersImp posted... This Putting peoples lives at risk however does. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:956035128] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>TuckersImp posted... </cite> <quote>This</quote> Putting peoples lives at risk however does. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 07/13/21 10:00:50 AM #94:	Ruvan22 posted... Well that (not driving now) is a great step so props I mean I haven't drove drunk in almost 15 years because I smartened the fuck up. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 Boop Trooper reporting for duty. <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:956035238] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite> <quote>Well that (not driving now) is a great step so props</quote>I mean I haven't drove drunk in almost 15 years because I smartened the fuck up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 07/13/21 10:02:20 AM #95:	IfGodCouldDie posted... I mean I haven't drove drunk in almost 15 years because I smartened the fuck up. ^5 --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:956035268] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>IfGodCouldDie posted... </cite> <quote>I mean I haven't drove drunk in almost 15 years because I smartened the fuck up.</quote> ^5 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 07/13/21 10:03:57 AM #96:	Woodger posted... I saw it on a couple of articles - just tracked down the source (page 53) - https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/safety/publications/1997/pdf/Speed_Risk_1.pdf It's actually in 5km/h (3mph) increments. The relative risk compared to sober at the speed limit is interesting/worrying. Doubles at 5km/h above and by 20km/h (12mph) above, the risk is 30 times higher. 'Case control studies on speed and alcohol have not been conducted in the same city anywhere else in the world.' Gee, I wonder why that is... --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. https://imgur.com/eW67nT8 - Artwork by Wii_Shaker <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:956035301] in People wil... [t:79560972]...</cite> <quote>Woodger posted... </cite> <quote>I saw it on a couple of articles - just tracked down the source (page 53) - https://infrastructure.gov.au/roads/safety/publications/1997/pdf/Speed_Risk_1.pdf It's actually in 5km/h (3mph) increments. The relative risk compared to sober at the speed limit is interesting/worrying. Doubles at 5km/h above and by 20km/h (12mph) above, the risk is 30 times higher. </quote> 'Case control studies on speed and alcohol have not been conducted in the same city anywhere else in the world.' Gee, I wonder why that is... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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