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The Trent
07/14/21 2:59:35 PM
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These events happened Wednesday of last week...

I scheduled a ride for 4:35 AM because I had a flight to catch for work. To his credit, my driver (Cornelius), arrived 5m early and was waiting for me. When I got in the car, I noticed there was no air conditioner running and the car smelled very musty. My driver knew this was a ride to the airport for a work flight, but was driving painfully slow (at least 2 mph below speed limit at all times) and avoiding any toll roads that would help out our time. I had already planned the timing of this trip because I didn't want to wake up any earlier than needed but also knew how much time I required to get to the airport and through security to my terminal.

As we are driving, I noticed my driver's waze app's ETA growing from 44 minutes to 45 minutes to 46 minutes because we weren't keeping pace with the calculated time. I began getting nervous that I was going to miss my flight, but trusted that I'd still be there on time but would probably have to run through the airport.

As we got onto one of the major highways in Houston, it began raining. Rain was already in the forecast and we have been receiving rain in the Houston area for about a week already. It wasn't a surprise storm. It wasn't a torrential downpour, but it was raining steadily. When the rain started, my driver slowed dramatically to 30 mph in a 65 mph zone on the highway. Cars were passing us, two of which honked as they went by. No one else was driving under 50. It was NOT raining that hard. My driver commented to me that he needed to be careful because driving in the rain made him nervous and he was scared of hitting a puddle that he couldn't see? He seemed to think there could be some kind of "black ice" situation like in freezing conditions. Now I began feeling a bit uncomfortable with timing and thinking that if we slow the pace even more, I won't make my flight.

We drove another few minutes at this pace before he decided that it was raining too hard and that he would need to stop and wait for the rain to finish. I couldn't do this, as I was already on a tight time frame. When I laughed at this idea and said that may not work for me, my driver got very upset and offended. He began telling me that his life matters and that his life was worth more than us getting there on time. I was confused with the angle we were taking and told him I did not consider it an either/or situation and that I was pretty sure we can get there on time AND not have our lives endangered. Remember, everyone else is still driving on the road like normal. He did not like this comment and got a bit more heated, thinking that I was not valuing his life somehow. I simply wanted to get to where I needed to go in time. When I said "I hear what you're saying, but I really need to get to the airport" he replied that "Yeah you hear me but you aren't listening so I'm just going to let you off right here." Right here happened to be a random gas station off of the highway, in the middle of the rain in a bad part of town at 5 AM. I was confused at this point by what was happening because I'd never had a bad experience with an uber driver previously. I have a 5* uber rating as a passenger. He got off of the highway and was still telling me that I was not valuing his life but he would continue driving me as long as he could stay on the feeder. I had no belief that doing this would get us to the airport in time, so I told him nevermind and that he could just let me out where he had planned. He did so, I got out in the rain and told him that I hoped he had a good day and went into the gas station to dial up a second uber.

My second driver was great, had no issues driving in the rain and got me to the airport JUST in time. By the time I made it through security, etc the plane was already boarding.

this was a copy-paste from the email i sent uber
uber gave me a $5 credit in response to this email
that $5 didn't even cover the double-pay i had to engage in for the second uber driver
i cited that they didn't even make me whole on the double-pay of the ride situation and they threw me another $10 in credit, which still doesn't cover the second uber ride

am i the asshole, CE?

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Turbam
07/14/21 2:59:49 PM
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Yes

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The Trent
07/14/21 3:00:37 PM
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Turbam posted...
Yes

wait a minute i feel like you didn't even read it!!!

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Ivynn
07/14/21 3:00:59 PM
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If you have to ask, probably.

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The Trent
07/14/21 3:01:20 PM
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Ivynn posted...
If you have to ask, probably.

oh no!

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Veggeta_MAX
07/14/21 3:01:26 PM
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No you are not

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R1masher
07/14/21 3:01:35 PM
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What Uber?

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
07/14/21 3:02:12 PM
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Nah, this dude sounds like he shouldn't be in a job that involves driving.

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The Trent
07/14/21 3:04:01 PM
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R1masher posted...
What Uber?

um i think it was like a camry i don't know it was early as fuck maybe a corolla or something

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TheOtherMike
07/14/21 3:05:10 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
No you are not

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berlyman101
07/14/21 3:06:53 PM
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for making me read that, yes. I demand to be made hole

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Bitcoin
07/14/21 3:07:12 PM
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Guy was an awful driver and you were right to be mad but it also sounds like you didnt give yourself any buffer time in case of emergencies / traffic etc so you could have avoided some of the stress if youd planned it differently. This time it was the drivers fault and you are right to be annoyed but the next time it might not be.
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The Trent
07/14/21 3:07:25 PM
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berlyman101 posted...
for making me read that, yes. I demand to be made hole

i promise to use my powers for good from now on

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HValle
07/14/21 3:07:58 PM
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The Trent posted...
I had already planned the timing of this trip because I didn't want to wake up any earlier than needed
Yes.

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The Trent
07/14/21 3:08:10 PM
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Bitcoin posted...
Guy was an awful driver and you were right to be mad but it also sounds like you didnt give yourself any buffer time in case of emergencies / traffic etc so you could have avoided some of the stress if youd planned it differently. This time it was the drivers fault and you are right to be annoyed but the next time it might not be.

i left in plenty of time was the point though lol
his driving and our subsequent fallout was the reason the timing got so close

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ModLogic
07/14/21 3:08:21 PM
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i would have told the first driver to fuck off

what a piece of shit

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The Trent
07/14/21 3:08:31 PM
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HValle posted...
Yes.

yes this was a good thing or yes this makes me the asshole?
expound kind sir

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Bitcoin
07/14/21 3:10:23 PM
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The Trent posted...
i left in plenty of time was the point though lol
his driving and our subsequent fallout was the reason the timing got so close

im only basing on what you posted man so if you did give yourself plenty of time fait play. It was only because you seemed to be panicking over a few extra minutes at one point I felt maybe you hadnt but if you are happy you left enough time then nothing left for me to add.
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R1masher
07/14/21 3:10:32 PM
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ModLogic posted...
i would have told the first driver to fuck off

what a piece of shit


not everyone is a professional driver and that driver is probably trying to pay his bills, Ill be god damned if Im gonna let you talk out of the side of your neck with out at least saying something in his defense, trashing his skills, youre figuratively trying to take food out of his kids mouth, maybe take a big step back and go calm down

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Blue_Target
07/14/21 3:11:47 PM
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Driver was bad but you should always schedule to arrive at the airport one hour before boarding. If you know traffic or the weather was going to be bad add another half hour.

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krazychao5
07/14/21 3:11:47 PM
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sounds like he shouldn't be driving for uber. or just driving, period

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The Trent
07/14/21 3:13:37 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
His name wasn't Cornelius.

it absolutely was
hold on maybe i can screenshot it

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The Trent
07/14/21 3:14:24 PM
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The Trent
07/14/21 3:15:52 PM
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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
No, you arent. Im a high rated driver and routinely hear Im the best driver people have ever had. What you go was either a weirdo or someone drunk/high, from the sound of things. Rate them 1 star if you havent already and youll never see them again. Report if you suspected he was under the influence in any way. Im not surprised - its the easiest job I ever got - anyone can get it so long as their background is clear and they have a good enough car. Not at all surprised at their response - they fuck over their best drivers, too.

oh i gave him 1 star and followed up with the OP in an email to uber
their response has been shitty - i'm done doing business with uber and will download lyft next time i need a ride

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3PiesAndAFork
07/14/21 3:16:06 PM
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Wait this is real? I thought this was a copy paste from reddit or some shit.

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The Trent
07/14/21 3:16:19 PM
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3PiesAndAFork posted...
Wait this is real? I thought this was a copy paste from reddit or some shit.

i don't come to CE to tell lies bruh

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berlyman101
07/14/21 3:17:20 PM
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The Trent posted...
i'm done doing business with uber and will download lyft next time i need a ride

i have repeatedly said this until Uber offered a faster or cheaper ride. so about half the time.

that said I've avoided it as much as possible since they jacked up their rates.

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The Trent
07/14/21 3:18:46 PM
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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Hope you have better luck. Last I heard they still at least have an interview process by giving someone a mock ride. Someone can fake it, sure, and the interviewer can reject you if they dont like you - so its not perfect - but its something.

the best part about the whole thing:
cornelius had a 4.6 star rating before i got in...like, did he just always always always drive in sunny conditions or what?

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ModLogic
07/14/21 3:20:11 PM
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definitely follow up the complaint. make it about safety too. he was going dangerously under speed. the pos should lose his job.

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buddhamonster
07/14/21 3:20:30 PM
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R1masher posted...
not everyone is a professional driver
He was driving 30 in a 65 where everyone else was going the speed limit.

That goes beyond not being professional, thats outright dangerous. A cop will literally pull you over and write you a ticket for driving that far under the limit. He has no business being a driver as a job if speed limits are too dangerous tor him.

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The Trent
07/14/21 3:21:07 PM
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ModLogic posted...
definitely follow up the complaint. make it about safety too. he was going dangerously under speed. the pos should lose his job.

i think it's pretty much run its course
i'm not out to ruin the dude's life if he's this much of a wreck already
i'm just not doing business with uber anymore after they had the chance to refund the ride and offered a pittance of credit instead

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The Trent
07/14/21 3:54:06 PM
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Giant_Aspirin
07/14/21 3:57:36 PM
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Uber driver has no business taking rides for money when he can barely keep it together on the road.

NTA

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Machete
07/14/21 3:59:18 PM
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LordFarquad1312
07/14/21 3:59:54 PM
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The Trent posted...
avoiding any toll roads that would help out our time.
Pretty sure Uber drivers can ask you to take any toll roads at your expense. If he didn't ask, he was a bad Uber driver.

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Fossil
07/14/21 4:00:46 PM
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He shouldn't have a drivers license.
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sabrestorm
07/14/21 4:04:32 PM
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You should have taken the drivers feelings into consideration, safety is more important than getting you to the airport on time, I dont think you cared about him
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The Trent
07/14/21 4:05:33 PM
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sabrestorm posted...
You should have taken the drivers feelings into consideration, safety is more important than getting you to the airport on time, I dont think you cared about him

why didn't he care about my feelings though

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sabrestorm
07/14/21 4:08:40 PM
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The Trent posted...
why didn't he care about my feelings though

you werent driving
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The Trent
07/14/21 4:09:07 PM
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wow that's pretty passengerphobic of you

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TheOtherMike
07/14/21 4:13:15 PM
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sabrestorm posted...
You should have taken the drivers feelings into consideration, safety is more important than getting you to the airport on time, I dont think you cared about him

Driving 30 in a 65 is entirely unsafe.
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bsp77
07/14/21 4:14:42 PM
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Almost every one of my drivers has been 4.8+. People almost always give 5s, so 4.6 is kinda bad actually

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The Trent
07/15/21 11:31:04 AM
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anybody else want a crack at this

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