Current Events > Fox News is now invoking 9/11 to detract from 1/6.

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https://www.foxnews.com/media/capitol-riot-9-11-families

it was a terrorist attack and an attempt to overthrow our government. Those rioters are no better than the terrorists on 9/11. But you see what theyre doing here. Its also rich coming from the network that downplays Covid, which has hurt more Americans than like 20+ 9/11s combined.

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They are saying 'The Left' is weaponizing the attempted insurection.

~That's the narrative.
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SiO4 posted...

They are saying 'The Left' is weaponizing the attempted insurection.

~That's the narrative.

Right? Its absolutely fuckin insane.

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foxnews isnt real news it should be labeled as such

They know their fan base is stupid enough to buy it up

SiO4 posted...

They are saying 'The Left' is weaponizing the attempted insurection.

~That's the narrative.

It should be weaponized against the people who committed sedition.

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TheVipaGTS posted...

it was a terrorist attack and an attempt to overthrow our government. Those rioters are no better than the terrorists on 9/11.

https://i.imgur.com/6TTc8hc.mp4

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joe40001 posted...

https://i.imgur.com/6TTc8hc.mp4

What? What makes them better? That they failed to kill people despite wanting to?

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9/11: "Never forget."

1/6: "You all need to get over it and stop bringing it up."

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Liberal Joe Numbers strikes again

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hockeybub89 posted...

Liberal Joe Numbers strikes again

The dude is the weirdest troll account Ive ever seen he just likes to argue the most pointless fucking semantics on a topic

TheVipaGTS posted...

What? What makes them better? That they failed to kill people despite wanting to?

Well that their goal was not mass murder, for starters.

This isn't even one I feel bad about, anybody who compares the capitol riots to the 9/11 attacks is either being quite dumb or bad faith.

How do you not see the difference in a group of people tricked into thinking a democratic election was stolen vs people whose literal goal was terrorism?

Am I being trolled in this topic?

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yo thats crazy

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And there he goes again trying to argue pointless semantics

joe40001 posted...

Well that their goal was not mass murder, for starters.

Yes it was. Some of the rioters had plans to capture politicians, hold trials, find them guilty and then execute them, all inside the conquered Capital Building and all broadcast live over the internet

joe40001 posted...

How do you not see the difference in a group of people tricked into thinking a democratic election was stolen vs people whose literal goal was terrorism?

How do you not see the diffenrce in a group of people whose literal goal was an act of terror on the sitting congress of the United States vs people whose literal goal was an act of terror on the United States?

Any terrorism, no matter the level, is bad and should be treated and addressed the same.

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joe40001 posted...

Well that their goal was not mass murder, for starters.

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I was just about to explain, but then I saw it was joe#s and knew it would be a wasted effort.

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TheVipaGTS posted...

That they failed to kill people despite wanting to?

I dont see any of them being charged with attempted murder. Weird.

This is wild and Im still not 100% sure if comparing these two are just people trolling out of boredom or if theyre serious.

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joe40001 posted...

Well that their goal was not mass murder, for starters.

This isn't even one I feel bad about, anybody who compares the capitol riots to the 9/11 attacks is either being quite dumb or bad faith.

How do you not see the difference in a group of people tricked into thinking a democratic election was stolen vs people whose literal goal was terrorism?

Am I being trolled in this topic?

Jesus Christ joe.

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Remember guys, it's not terrorism unless there's a body count.

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SiO4 posted...

They are saying 'The Left' is weaponizing the attempted insurection.

~That's the narrative.

Mbutcwho knows if its true, I know I dont know

gatorsPENSbucs posted...

I dont see any of them being charged with attempted murder. Weird.

This is wild and Im still not 100% sure if comparing these two are just people trolling out of boredom or if theyre serious.

weird because the ones that murdered the cop are being charged with murder

What_ posted...

And there he goes again trying to argue pointless semantics

It's not even close man.
During the September 11 attacks in 2001, 2,977 people were killed, 19 hijackers committed murdersuicide, and more than 6,000 others were injured.[1][2] The immediate deaths included 265 on the four planes (including the terrorists), 2,606 in the World Trade Center and in the surrounding area, and 125 at the Pentagon.[3][4] The attacks remain the deadliest terrorist act in world history.[5]

Have people forgotten history, or are you just this delusionally political now?

I never thought I'd get to the point where some "liberals" are like "I'm not saying jihadists are great, but... republicans are just as bad".

10 times more people got killed at a mass shooting at my local grocery store. The capitol riots were shitty, but it by definition wasn't an act of terrorism. It was a bad riot informed by ignorance, but only 1 person was killed and like 4 more died from health shit come up.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled

It's not even the most violent riot of the last year or so.

What happened to context? Does everything have to be "the worst thing that has happened in this county's history"? Can't we just say it was very bad, and talk about it for what it was?

I mean fuck it, if we are comparing it to 9/11 why stop there? Are you really telling me the capitol hill rioters are better than Germany in WWII? They are both authoritarian and racist! Sure the nukes we dropped on Japan killed a lot of people, but like it didn't threaten democracy like these rioters? So in most ways those nukes weren't as bad as the rioters.

North Korea oppresses people to the point where they have to resort to cannibalism on their own children, but like have you seen trump supporters? They yell on fox news and tucker carlson makes that punchable face, so that's gotta worse than genocide, right? They are surely worse. We are only critical of NK because we don't understand their culture. It's white ethnocentrism that makes us not "get" why cannibalism, sex slavery, genocide are "wrong". So let's not "white mansplain" to cruel places elsewhere in the world until we've got our own house in order.

Some of you have taken crazy pills, no sensible person thinks the capitol hill riots were as bad as 9/11. They can still be plenty bad without pretending they were as bad as 9/11.

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ZMythos posted...

Remember guys, it's not terrorism unless there's a body count.

Joking aside, even then 1/6 would count as terrorism because they murdered a cop.

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I mean 2 people did die

But they were on the riot side

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Of course they are.

Its practically a literal fake news channel. Id rather watch the Today Show or Daily Show than that provocist propstock.

Honestly, comparing it to 9/11 was just a bad strategy. Regardless of how true or untrue it is.
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Do people not understand something can be bad and also simultaneously not as bad as the deadliest terrorist act in world history?

Or are people no longer capable of even that level of distinction?

This is different than other topics where like, I can see where the people disagreeing with me are coming from. Here, if you legitimately think the capitol riots are as bad or worse than 9/11, frankly I lose a lot of respect for your ability to think or communicate critically.

It's like saying 2+2=5 or an insult is as bad as murder. This isn't sensible or coherent.

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Umbreon posted...

Joking aside, even then 1/6 would count as terrorism because they murdered a cop.

Pretty sure that person was maced but died from natural causes.

And the point isn't that it wasn't bad, but that somebody having a stroke a riot is not as bad as:
[Insert 9/11 footage]

Like I said, 10 people were killed at my local grocery store from a mass shooting. If you have empathy for the rioters, as I'm sure most of you do, that is 10x as many people dead at my thing. And I'm sure none of you remember the day there, because it doesn't fit into a clean narrative.

There is a lot of shitty things going around, but even so we can't just throw perspective out the window for the sake of hyperbole.

Like I said, more people died at other riots, this was bad, but it's beyond ignorant to say it's as bad as 9/11.

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Umbreon posted...

Joking aside, even then 1/6 would count as terrorism because they murdered a cop.

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It would count as terrorism because it was politically motivated and the president at the time encouraged it to happen so it was doubly heinous

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Not sure why you're talking to me Joe. I'm not arguing with someone who doesn't speak in good faith.

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1/6 was an act of terrorism and all the capitol rioters are terrorists. Full stop.

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Umbreon posted...

Not sure why you're talking to me Joe. I'm not arguing with someone who doesn't speak in good faith.

Are you accusing me of not arguing in good faith?

If so that's pretty rich. I bend over backwards to try to engage with people who aren't fair to me back. People tell me what I believe and misrepresent my own views to my face, and then just "nope" when I tell them they are wrong. As if they have any business telling another person what they think.

If you want to avoid somebody calling you out for being inaccurate that's on you, but it's not on me.

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i watch political streamers

good faith is a buzz word

just throw that around along with strawman

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Joe "I'm a liberal" numbers

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NinjaWarrior455 posted...

1/6 was an act of terrorism and all the capitol rioters are terrorists. Full stop.

You can maybe make this argument if you strain, but you can't make the argument it was as bad as 9/11.

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DarthAragorn posted...

Joe "I'm a liberal" numbers

I am a liberal.

Is the bar for "liberal" "Capitol riots were as bad as 9/11"? because no, I'm not that. Whatever that is is dumb, and has nothing to do with liberal values, (or critical thinking, for that matter).

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joe40001 posted...

You can maybe make this argument if you strain, but you can't make the argument it was as bad as 9/11.

Thats not even the point of this topic why are you trying to make that a thing when its not a thing?

armandro posted...

i watch political streamers

good faith is a buzz word

just throw that around along with strawman

Yeah, ironically some people use the term in bad faith.

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What_ posted...

Thats not even the point of this topic why are you trying to make that a thing when its not a thing?

Please do not respond to joe.

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What_ posted...

Thats not even the point of this topic why are you trying to make that a thing when its not a thing?

The OP:
" Those rioters are no better than the terrorists on 9/11."

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NightMarishPie posted...

Please do not respond to joe.

I think other people can make decisions for themselves.

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Someone post the joenumbers tweet

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https://twitter.com/wuooods/status/1252051656344317953?s=20

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Perfect

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DarthAragorn posted...

https://twitter.com/wuooods/status/1252051656344317953?s=20

lol this never gets old

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I'm not sure what you 3 get out of your little circlejerk.

But yeah if "capitol rioters are obviously not as bad as 9/11 attackers" is an "incredibly shitty opinion" I guess I have "incredibly shitty opinions".

And I feel sorry for anybody who is so out of touch that they take true statements and see them as "incredibly shitty" because, idk they go counter narrative or something.

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