Current Events > People say boomer music is only good because time forgot the trash

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RedJackson posted...

In my experience, most of the people who say old music is awful are:

1) Generalizing and are really only referring to the front-and-center of older music (artists who get the most playtime), not understanding that a lot of "old" music is extremely well written and produced

2) Unaware of what they're talking about (some arguments can be made for certain artists, absolutely. But it all comes down to opinion, which a lot of the time in my experience, boils down to "Nah they just suck, I don't have an informed opinion why, they just suck"

3) Those that have really limited taste in music

all IMO of course

exactly, should have included old music in my post

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also I think 'energy' of a song has to be defined here -- there's alot of musical inflections that produce specifically that and there's things that are actually 'energy' within the context of notes >_>

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RaulJenkins posted...

exactly, should have included old music in my post

It's an accurate opinion as is tbh, I just think it can be applied to the old as well

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Who says boomer music is good? Then again, I don't really like American music. I prefer Japanese and Korean music. No, I don't understand a word of Korean, and my Japanese is poor-to-okay, but I love the way both languages sound.

Thaumaturge posted...

I prefer Japanese and Korean music.

Say no more.

Van Halen is where its at!

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Thaumaturge posted...

Who says boomer music is good? Then again, I don't really like American music. I prefer Japanese and Korean music. No, I don't understand a word of Korean, and my Japanese is poor-to-okay, but I love the way both languages sound.

Is Japanese music from the 1970s boomer music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNKOMLH7Npc

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ShyOx posted...

I mean its the Beatles;

You do realize youre talking just like the supposedly narrow-minded people you talk about, right?
I can name a Dying Fetus song thats musically and compositionally just as good if not better than Let It Be (im specifically choosing a jarring example like this). But youd just dismiss it as "unlistenable metal garbage" as you said youd do. Youre playing the exact dad rock fan stereotype that people put you into.
Thats the problem of it. For you guys all valid music is just the sing-along stuff that sounds as conventional as it can be and what musically interesting nuances it might actually have are buried under the pretense of just being an easily appealing music that people wont be shocked by or caught by a surprise it was played randomly.

But let just put all subjective things aside. What is it about Let It Be that so elevates it into this top tier status that you claim it to be? The subject matter? The music? Structure?
Whatever it is, its gonna be a very one-dimensional parameter and it looks like the only thing you base your argument on is its mass popularity which is a standard case of appeal to authority. You wouldnt be so confident and arrogant in your words if there werent 100s of millions of people that think just like that.

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I dont really know what eras constitute as boomer, zoomer, millenial, or gen x,y, or z... Or whatever the fucking names are.

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Kloe_Rinz posted...

What is some modern music that will stand the test of time like boomer music?

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The amount of listenable music has exponentially grown since technology has lead to the democratization of music creation.

Music is just better now than it ever was.

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Damn this topic is a reminder I'll be old and out of touch one day

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music sucks now for the same reason the rest of pop culture sucks: it's all "content"

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ITT: People who don't know what a boomer is

ledbowman posted...

music sucks now for the same reason the rest of pop culture sucks: it's all "content"

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it's not a coincidence the best music was made in the freebase era

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ledbowman posted...

it's not a coincidence the best music was made in the freebase era

what a bad post

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Pshh, it's all about that Cab Calloway. Little Richard too.
I love swing.
I grew up listening to 60s/70s/80s because of my mom and loved it.
Of course I listened to 90s cause it was on radio.

Still love NSYNC and Daft Punk.

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Fortunately I know the TRUE best era of pop culture occurred when I was between the ages of 12 and 20.

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QueenCarly posted...

The amount of listenable music has exponentially grown since technology has lead to the democratization of music creation.

Music is just better now than it ever was.

Your own post is more succint regarding the above than anything I could manage.
QueenCarly posted...

what a bad post

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I listen to ruruns of Casey Casem's Top 40 on SiriusXM sometimes, and the lower ranking songs have usually been largely forgotten for a reason. There was bad or mediocre songs even then.

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RedJackson posted...

In my experience, most of the people who say old music is awful are:

1) Generalizing and are really only referring to the front-and-center of older music (artists who get the most playtime), not understanding that a lot of "old" music is extremely well written and produced

2) Unaware of what they're talking about (some arguments can be made for certain artists, absolutely. But it all comes down to opinion, which a lot of the time in my experience, boils down to "Nah they just suck, I don't have an informed opinion why, they just suck"

3) Those that have really limited taste in music

all IMO of course

I find that all pretty accurate.

And I mean, everyone craps on people for saying all new music sucks, rightfully so, but people who write off all old music as "overrated" or "just sucks because it's old" or whatever silly reason don't seem to get the same amount of criticism.

I never understood stuff like "dad/grandpa rock" either. It's mainly used at least somewhat as derogatory. Why deride older music like that?

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QueenCarly posted...

The amount of listenable music has exponentially grown since technology has lead to the democratization of music creation.

Music is just better now than it ever was.

The problem is, we consume SO much content compared to decades past that none of it will have staying power.

It's too the point where buying music, even in digital form, is an antiquated practice.

The days of having 100 records, cassettes, or CDs, or even having 1000 songs on you phone, are over.

People stream their music, and don't really "keep" any of it anymore, so we're constantly moving on to the next one.

I posted something similar about movies. None of the movies that come out now, save for the "franchise" stuff like Star Wars, Harry Potter, and MCU, none of them will turn into "Modern Classics" like so many movies from the 80's and 90's simply because none of them have rewatchability when you stream them once then move on to the next thing. No one is buying DVDs to watch movies over and over again anymore.

Like, no one is going to be wearing "Bridesmaids" T-Shirts 30 years from now like we do with movies like Ghostbusters, Back to the Future, Goonies, etc.

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ShyOx posted...

Whenever someone says the Beatles are overrated I ask alright well name a song as good as Let it Be.

If youre gonna go to bat for the Beatles there are way better examples of great Beatles songs than anything on Let it Be

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Hayame Zero posted...

I listen to ruruns of Casey Casem's Top 40 on SiriusXM sometimes, and the lower ranking songs have usually been largely forgotten for a reason. There was bad or mediocre songs even then.

It's the same reason everyone thinks older SNL seasons were better (because they only rerun the good skits)

Try_Another___ posted...

If youre gonna go to bat for the Beatles there are way better examples of great Beatles songs than anything on Let it Be

My go to is "While my Guitar Gently Weeps" when people say the Beatles are overrated.

There's nothing in the last 20 years even in the same SPORT as that song, let a long the same ballpark.

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as good as the beatles are, it was all downhill after i saw her standing there

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bigblu89 posted...

The problem is, we consume SO much content compared to decades past that none of it will have staying power.

It's too the point where buying music, even in digital form, is an antiquated practice.

The days of having 100 records, cassettes, or CDs, or even having 1000 songs on you phone, are over.

People stream their music, and don't really "keep" any of it anymore, so we're constantly moving on to the next one.

I posted something similar about movies. None of the movies that come out now, save for the "franchise" stuff like Star Wars, Harry Potter, and MCU, none of the never movies will turn into "Modern Classics" like so many movies from the 80's and 90's simply because none of them have rewatchability when you stream them once then move on to the next thing. No one is buying DVDs to watch movies over and over again anymore.

Like, no one is going to be wearing "Bridesmaids" T-Shirts 30 years from now like we do with movies like Ghostbusters, Back to the Future, Goonies, etc.

All this says is 'The democratization of music has allowed for people to find their preferred niche content more easily so there are fewer culturally massive artists.'

The movie industry is definitely filled to the brim with derivative bullshit.

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bigblu89 posted...

My go to is "While my Guitar Gently Weeps" when people say the Beatles are overrated.

There's nothing in the last 20 years even in the same SPORT as that song, let a long the same ballpark.

lol

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worshiping the beatles is the number one way to know someone is culturally mayonnaise

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mooreandrew58 posted...

Nah gen x music is where its at. There is plenty of shit since then that's good but I remain convinced Freddy Mercury will go down at least in the top 5 vocalists of that century of not number 1

1980s music FTW

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Forget rock, late 70s/early 80s synthpop is the peak of all music

bigblu89 posted...

My go to is "While my Guitar Gently Weeps" when people say the Beatles are overrated.

There's nothing in the last 20 years even in the same SPORT as that song, let a long the same ballpark.

agree to disagree, lol

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QueenCarly posted...

All this says is 'The democratization of music has allowed for people to find their preferred niche content more easily so there are fewer culturally massive artists.'

The movie industry is definitely filled to the brim with derivative bullshit.

Possibly, but still supports the idea that there will most likely not be any "generational" music anymore.

Like, my grandchildren will (most likely) not discover music of the 2020's like I did with music of the 60's, simply because my kids have not, and probably will not, latch on to many bands and stick with them for a decade or so, like my mom did with The Beatles, or my dad did with Stevie Wonder.

I'm 43, and save for a few artists, I basically listen to the same things I listened to from when I was 18-30. But with the turnover of music (especially music that is considered "pop" music) happening so rapidly, my kids will never truly latch on to an artist and seek out everything they put out, like I did with Beastie Boys, Pearl Jam, Wu-Tang, etc.

The days of owning every album and artist puts out, save for the tippy-top performers, are over.

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QueenCarly posted...

worshiping the beatles is the number one way to know someone is culturally mayonnaise

I really don't like The Beatles, at all, but I love that song.

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Kloe_Rinz posted...

Like name some modern songs as good as Stairway to Heaven or November Rain

There's tons of better songs than Stairway. Soundgarden alone has written several of them
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bigblu89 posted...

Possibly, but still supports the idea that there will most likely not be any "generational" music anymore.

Like, my grandchildren will (most likely) not discover music of the 2020's like I did with music of the 60's, simply because my kids have not, and probably will not, latch on to many bands and stick with them for a decade or so.

I'm 43, and save for a few artists, I basically listen to the same things I listened to from when I was 18-30. But with the turnover of music (especially music that is considered "pop" music) happening so rapidly, my kids will never truly latch on to an artist and seek out everything they put out, like I did with Beastie Boys, Pearl Jam, Wu-Tang, etc.

The days of owning every album and artist puts out, save for the tippy-top performers, are over.

Maybe that is the case for the general public that, but I think its for the better. I'd rather be able to find music that is interesting to me and for others to have that same accessibility than for there to be these huge major artists that are prominent culturally.

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Also lol at people asking "Name as song as good as this Beatles song". These are dumb questions, not just because the songs you named aren't even remotely close to the "best song ever" but because your mind is already made up. And you're really not helping combat the sentiment about the Beatles being insanely overrated.
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QueenCarly posted...

Maybe that is the case for the general public that, but I think its for the better. I'd rather be able to find music that is interesting to me and for others to have that same accessibility than for there to be these huge major artists that are prominent culturally.

Oh no doubt. My comments were more about the general idea of artist of today not having the staying power that the artists of the past have, simply because of how the music is consumed now.

It's also tougher to pass along musical tastes to the younger generations with how quickly the turnover is.

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From a older person I know who hates on modern music. He admits there was a lot of shit music in his day and only the good and for whatever reason popular survivied. I assume it's like thatt all generations

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Someone brought up the Key of F....for w/e reason.
Off the top of my head, I know Yesterday is in that key.

But anyway, technically most Much of Boomer music is not Boomer music, The Beatles being a perfect example. Paul was born during an air-raid in WWII, that's not a boomer thing.

Having said that, yes I do think The Boomers, overall had the best era of music.

We do have Radiohead though, and The Cranberries, and Phish.

But basic radio music now really is.....not too good.
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ramones, siouxsie, b-52s, cocteau twins, joy division/new order. this is peak of human civilization

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One_Day_Remains posted...

Also lol at people asking "Name as song as good as this Beatles song". These are dumb questions, not just because the songs you named aren't even remotely close to the "best song ever" but because your mind is already made up. And you're really not helping combat the sentiment about the Beatles being insanely overrated.

Definitely not overrated.

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ledbowman posted...

ramones, siouxsie, b-52s, cocteau twins, joy division/new order. this is peak of human civilization

That would be J.S. Bach.

But you've mentioned some good bands in there.
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It's all just survivorship bias
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SiO4 posted...

We do have Radiohead though, and The Cranberries, and Phish.

These are exactly the bands a boomer music fan would cite as good modern ones. Add in Opeth and you have the whole pack.

bigblu89 posted...

My go to is "While my Guitar Gently Weeps" when people say the Beatles are overrated.

There's nothing in the last 20 years even in the same SPORT as that song, let a long the same ballpark.

Funny you say that when even Spineshank's cover of that is head and shoulders above the original.

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DarthTyrannus83 posted...

These are exactly the bands a boomer music fan would cite as good modern ones. Add in Opeth and you have the whole pack.

I don't know about the last one, but am I supposed to be offended by this?
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DarthTyrannus83 posted...

These are exactly the bands a boomer music fan would cite as good modern ones. Add in Opeth and you have the whole pack.

Funny you say that when even Spineshank's cover of that is head and shoulders above the original.

Spineshank? Lmao

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DarthTyrannus83 posted...

Having radio longevity is no testament of being good, 7NA and White Stripes in general are some of the worst, no-dimensional, stupid music based on utter primitivity that ive ever heard.

You have one of the worst last.fms I've ever seen

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JimmyFraska posted...

Forget rock, late 70s/early 80s synthpop is the peak of all music

Agreed. Early Human League, DEVO, and Ultravox paved the way for the coolest shit

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