Current Events > Getting the vaccine should be MANDATORY by all employers

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Thanks to those anti-vaxxers, now I have to wear a mask, even though I am vaccinated.

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Mr Hangman posted...

The anti-vaxxers you should be blaming are the ones in government and the media who insist on you getting the vaccine and force you to behave as though it doesn't work at the same time.

Uh?
The mask policy is to protect you people who refuse to get the vaccine!
Now everyone has to wear them.

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Lol no it shouldnt

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Mr Hangman posted...

The option to get vaccinated is there to protect people who have refused to get vaccinated. It doesn't make any sense at all to force everyone to wear masks for the theoretical benefit of people who have voluntarily foregone the far better preventative action.

Yep.
It doesn't make sense to have everyone back to masks, just because some refuse to get vaccinated.
Let the non-vaxxers die, so population get herd immunity at least.

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Flamer_Blue posted...

Uh?
The mask policy is to protect you people who refuse to get the vaccine!
Now everyone has to wear them.

That was more true before the varients that can still get you. Now there's people thinking the vaccine is a miracle vaccine and not looking at any information that tells them different. Also it's not absolutely known if vaccinated people can still spread it or not. Honestly, the vaccinated people are seeming to be catching up to the ignorance of the anti-vaxxers

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

That was more true before the varients that can still get you. Now there's people thinking the vaccine is a miracle vaccine and not looking at any information that tells them different. Also it's not absolutely known if vaccinated people can still spread it or not. Honestly, the vaccinated people are seeming to be catching up to the ignorance of the anti-vaxxers

Vaccinated people be like "Every life matters". Then they act like the vaccine is 100% because it's easier to believe that than still do the extra things so that the ones it don't take to are still safe lol.

lol wut?
Seems like non-vaxxers are trying to back-up their ignorance with no facts.
FYI, the point of the vaccine is to get herd immunity. You can still transmit the virus, but you won't get symptoms or at least die from it.
However, the vaccine doesn't give everyone full immunity so the virus is automatically blocked by your immune system.
That was the point of the vaccine, to get everyone on board, not to make up stupid assumptions about how the "vaccinated people are seeming to be catching up to the ignorance of the anti-vaxxers".
Get your facts straight.

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Flamer_Blue posted...

lol wut?
Seems like non-vaxxers are trying to back-up their ignorance with no facts.
FYI, the point of the vaccine is to get herd immunity. You can still transmit the virus, but you won't get symptoms or at least die from it.
However, the vaccine doesn't give everyone full immunity so the virus is automatically blocked by your immune system.
That was the point of the vaccine, to get everyone on board, not to make up stupid assumptions about how the "vaccinated people are seeming to be catching up to the ignorance of the anti-vaxxers".
Get your facts straight.

Literally everything he said was accurate.

There are more than just the willfully unvaccinated that are at risk, and a lot of the fully vaccinated don't want to accept that.

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Flamer_Blue posted...

Yep.
It doesn't make sense to have everyone back to masks, just because some refuse to get vaccinated.
Let the non-vaxxers die, so population get herd immunity at least.

My 4-year-old daughter cant get vaccinated

Flamer_Blue posted...

lol wut?
Seems like non-vaxxers are trying to back-up their ignorance with no facts.
FYI, the point of the vaccine is to get herd immunity. You can still transmit the virus, but you won't get symptoms or at least die from it.
However, the vaccine doesn't give everyone full immunity so the virus is automatically blocked by your immune system.
That was the point of the vaccine, to get everyone on board, not to make up stupid assumptions about how the "vaccinated people are seeming to be catching up to the ignorance of the anti-vaxxers".
Get your facts straight.

You didn't change or dispute anything I said. You didn't argue why vaccinated people should feel they don't have to wear masks anymore or any of that. That's why you only quoted the part of my post that was me exaggerating for effect.

The main thing was that everyone should wear masks regardless, so that we're doing everything possible to combat it. Are you against that? You wanna dance around it again?

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RobertDoback posted...

Literally everything he said was accurate.

There are more than just the willfully unvaccinated that are at risk, and a lot of the fully vaccinated don't want to accept that.

What?
Cases of people dying from covids are the ones who requested the vaccine too late, like laying down next to a ventilator.

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Kami_no_Kami posted...

My 4-year-old daughter cant get vaccinated

Your 4 year daughter will soon be able to get vaccinated.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

You didn't change or dispute anything I said. You didn't argue why vaccinated people should feel they don't have to wear masks anymore or any of that. That's why you only quoted the part of my post that was me exaggerating for effect.

The main thing was that everyone should wear masks regardless, so that we're doing everything possible to combat it. Are you against that? You wanna dance around it again?

I am against wearing a mask if I have been vaccinated.
If you haven't been vaccinated, you should be wearing a mask, but guess what? Non-vaccinated people are walking without masks and even worse buying vaccinated cards.
They are the real problem.

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I've noticed when people are butthurt whenever the government doessnt enforce their will they monkey then to businesses to do so. Even though their still making money and have no responsibility or real incentive to do so.

Who next? Landlords?

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Getting the vaccine doesn't mean you can still spread it to someone else, like the very young or the immune compromised.

People thinking purely on a "How does this benefit ME" mentality is the reason why we're still in this pandemic.

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My company sent out a feeler email last week hinting at mandatory vaccines. This older lady in my office they cant make me no way nyuh uh no waaaaaaaaaaaaay lmao

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Eh, that attitude of my deleted post wouldn't of helped lol. But yeah, you're stuck in your way as well. You got the vaccination to help you and just you. Which is better than not getting it at all, thank you for that. But if you're willing to shrug off everything else after that, it's a tell. I still don't even go anywhere there's groups, because that's still gonna spread it regardless as well. None of this stuff is ok. Politicians are just being loose with rules to appease people and not get too much pushback.

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Flamer_Blue posted...

Your 4 year daughter will soon be able to get vaccinated.

Right. But in the meantime stop complaining about masks.

Honestly, stop complaining about them in general. Its such a small measure and it could save lives. I know that others dont value your life enough to get vaccinated (or, more likely, theyre getting biased information from alternate news sources that suggest that the vaccine is gonna kill you but the virus is no big deal), but that doesnt make their lives worthless.

Flamer_Blue posted...

I am against wearing a mask if I have been vaccinated.

You can still be infected and transmit Corona chan. There's no getting around masking up even with a 100% vaccinated population.

Buy a cool looking (and functional) mask. This is the new normal for the next few years... probably decade if there's a nightmare situation where there's a variant that would have died with an unvaccinated (by killing the sap) but survives and thrives to be spread via a vaccinated dude.
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It's as if nobody knows the purpose of vaccination anymore. So why should it be mandatory? To protect those that already took the jab?

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Flamer_Blue posted...

What?
Cases of people dying from covids are the ones who requested the vaccine too late, like laying down next to a ventilator.

Think you're having trouble reading here, pal.

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it will be by some

the flu shot is mandatory at my work, covid probably will be next year when people need to get their booster shot

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RobertDoback posted...

Think you're having trouble reading here, pal.

Show me your facts.

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<a onclick="return show_quoted_message(400, 79597066, 956750804, 'bf9b7a5e');" href="/boards/400-current-events/79597066/956750804">Flamer_Blue posted... </a>

Show me your facts.

You're not even understanding what's being said here is what I'm saying. We are not talking about breakthrough deaths.

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RobertDoback posted...

You're not even understanding what's being said here is what I'm saying. We are not talking about breakthrough deaths.

Tell me how covid deaths are not happening to the non-vaxxers.
This is what you are trying to say.
LIke i said, show me where you get your info.
I am saying, covid deaths are happening from non-vaxxers more than vaccinated.

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Flamer_Blue posted...

Tell me how covid deaths are not happening to the non-vaxxers.
This is what you are trying to say.
LIke i said, show me where you get your info.
I am saying, covid deaths are happening from non-vaxxers more than vaccinated.

Oh my fucking God...

Flamer_Blue posted...

Your 4 year daughter will soon be able to get vaccinated.

Never mind, missed this post. Don't think this is worth the discussion.

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This entire line of discussion is ridiculous.

"If only people did X then we wouldn't have Y" is the dumbest argument ever. You can't force people to get medical procedures and you can't force them to comply with mask mandates. All you can do is plan around the situation knowing people won't. Sitting there and fuming that other people are stupid or aren't doing what you want or god forbid are mistrusting their governments is not only childish, it's counterproductive. What are YOU doing to make YOUR situation better? Let other people worry about themselves, you have no control over them anyway.

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It's the government and companies implementing the mask mandates not people refusing to get vaccinated. The lockdowns were the same last year. It was the government seizing more power.

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RobertDoback posted...

Oh my fucking God...

Never mind, missed this post. Don't thank this is worth the discussion.

Engrish much?

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Nay

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Oh my. That was a typo, for sure. But thanks for further outing yourself.

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Flamer_Blue posted...

Yep.
It doesn't make sense to have everyone back to masks, just because some refuse to get vaccinated.
Let the non-vaxxers die, so population get herd immunity at least.

You're completely right --- it doesn't make sense to have everyone back to masks. Sounds to me like you'd benefit from living in a red state.

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Houston posted...

living in a red state.

Not a whole lot of living from what I'm hearing.

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tigerslashII posted...

This entire line of discussion is ridiculous.

"If only people did X then we wouldn't have Y" is the dumbest argument ever. You can't force people to get medical procedures and you can't force them to comply with mask mandates. All you can do is plan around the situation knowing people won't. Sitting there and fuming that other people are stupid or aren't doing what you want or god forbid are mistrusting their governments is not only childish, it's counterproductive. What are YOU doing to make YOUR situation better? Let other people worry about themselves, you have no control over them anyway.

It's especially dumb when you make it out to look like this isn't just a conversation and this is running our entire lives. When in reality, I can only speak for me, but Im guessing he is also clicking out of this topic and not carrying this with him. We can have these conversations without "fuming" or attempting to "force" people to do stuff. Of course shit looks dumb when your dramatize it as much as you possibly can.

We're literally just having a conversation about what's the safest thing for everyone. Chill

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Umbreon posted...

Not a whole lot of living from what I'm hearing.

Funny joke.. but yeah, most people have been getting along just fine without the crazy restrictions and mandates. Especially people who are vaccinated, apparently.

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lolno

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Medical Fascist confirmed.

No one has the balls to do the right thing though

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I'm self-employed, and I give myself permission to not get vaccinated.
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@tigerslashII posted...

This entire line of discussion is ridiculous.

"If only people did X then we wouldn't have Y" is the dumbest argument ever. You can't force people to get medical procedures and you can't force them to comply with mask mandates. All you can do is plan around the situation knowing people won't. Sitting there and fuming that other people are stupid or aren't doing what you want or god forbid are mistrusting their governments is not only childish, it's counterproductive. What are YOU doing to make YOUR situation better? Let other people worry about themselves, you have no control over them anyway.

The problem here is as its transmitted through the vaccinated back into the unvaccinated it mutates and becomes more resilient.

so yes, anti vaxxers are fucking morons cause as variants appear the vaccine wont be as effective. So trying to educate the uninformed on why its important to stop it now directly benefits everone. Because the alternative is the inevitable mutation thats far more fatal then what were currently dealing with.

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tigerslashII posted...

This entire line of discussion is ridiculous.

"If only people did X then we wouldn't have Y" is the dumbest argument ever. You can't force people to get medical procedures and you can't force them to comply with mask mandates. All you can do is plan around the situation knowing people won't. Sitting there and fuming that other people are stupid or aren't doing what you want or god forbid are mistrusting their governments is not only childish, it's counterproductive. What are YOU doing to make YOUR situation better? Let other people worry about themselves, you have no control over them anyway.

Uh?
What do you mean, what am I doing to make the situation better.
I GOT VACCINATED.
THAT'S ALL I CAN DO.
Meanwhile, idiots are refusing to get vaccinated, and worse walk without masks and force their so called "freedoms".

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totalnerdken posted...

It's post like this that make me think that people really don't understand how easy it is for them to justify fascism without realizing it.

So wait a moment.
You people are bashing at me for not doing my part and complaining about doing something for my own well being (even though it doesn't make sense) because not only by getting vaccinated, you are doing your deed AND preventing this virus from affecting you and overfilling medical facilities with your subsequent treatment, BUT people who are not getting vaccinated are doing their peers a favor? By not agreeing to a fascist state?
LMFAO, get real people.

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