Current Events > If Delta is even more contagious, why aren't we going into lockdown like 2020?

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Imagine how strict those measures were, WAY back when there was no such thing as Delta. Why are we going backward? Does the world simply not care anymore?

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1% values money over the lives of the 99%

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You think people will allow another lockdown? They cant even be assed to wear a mask.

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Lockdown wasn't ever a "good" idea. It was a panic button. People can't just stay home forever. Stuff needs to be made and people make stuff. Limiting stupid shit like concerts is a good idea, but shutting down butt fuck everything is stupid.

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Rain_Dust posted...

Lockdown wasn't ever a "good" idea. It was a panic button. People can't just stay home forever. Stuff needs to be made and people make stuff. Limiting stupid shit like concerts is a good idea, but shutting down butt fuck everything is stupid.

Rather have a ton of people die then? Lockdown was the best idea until the vaccine came out. We do not need hospitals overflowing with covid patients to the point where people just die waiting to get in the hospital and not just for covid.

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Delta still only kills like 1 in 100k vaccinated people

We just spread it easily to the unvaccinated

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Because if you're not vaxxed at this point, they don't care about their own health. So why should the rest of us suffer?

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because we didn't when people were dying in droves, why the hell would we collectively come together as a country and decide to do the right thing now?

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LightHawKnight posted...

Rather have a ton of people die then? Lockdown was the best idea until the vaccine came out. We do not need hospitals overflowing with covid patients to the point where people just die waiting to get in the hospital and not just for covid.

How many people will die if they stop making/delivering food and medicine? You can't shut everything down. This is basic brain function bro.

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Imit8m3 posted...

Because if you're not vaxxed at this point, they don't care about their own health. So why should the rest of us suffer?

Most kids can't get vaccinated...

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Goatsensation posted...

Most kids can't get vaccinated...

Isn't it ridiculously rare for kids to be harmed by covid?

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Rain_Dust posted...

How many people will die if they stop making/delivering food and medicine? You can't shut everything down. This is basic brain function bro.

So you dont understand the point of the lockdown. Services like that tend to stay open. You dont shut everything down, you shut most things down. Where you even alive the past year?

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Just force everyone to get vaccinated and we win

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Njolk posted...

Isn't it ridiculously rare for kids to be harmed by covid?

So you want to chance your child dying from covid? Ridiculously low doesnt mean zero and when the numbers reach millions, you will see deaths.

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LightHawKnight posted...

So you want to chance your child dying from covid? Ridiculously low doesnt mean zero and when the numbers reach millions, you will see deaths.

Well it's also super low with the flu but we're ok with that

Isn't this the reason kids aren't vaccinated?

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The rich are all vaccinated and safe so fuck everybody else, also dark money has worked very very hard astroturfing negative feelings to any and all covid restrictions including masks so the public doesn't want it either, it's over people may die but that's a risk the 1 percent are willing to take to keep their profits, Benzos is planning another space trip so he right his name in the moon with his piss to remind it who it's master is so back to work everyone and especially shut up about those abuses and wage demands.

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Njolk posted...

Well it's also super low with the flu but we're ok with that

Isn't this the reason kids aren't vaccinated?

? Last I checked, kids can get the flu shot right? Also kids are vaccinated for a lot of stuff, it is the just trials have some ethical concerns when testing children, so it takes longer.

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Njolk posted...

Delta still only kills like 1 in 100k vaccinated people

We just spread it easily to the unvaccinated

How come we're way over a year in and people still don't realize that death isn't the only way it completely fucks your life.

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Because people can't survive without going to beaches, gyms, barbers, restuarant, etc.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

How come we're way over a year in and people still don't realize that death isn't the only way it completely fucks your life.

Vaccinated people are also supposed to have much more mild symptoms if they do get Covid.

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There are still plenty of people who can't get vaccinated (immunocompromised, children, etc) and if covid doesnt just straight up kill them it could cause long term issues. This isn't just pro-vax vs anti-vax shit.
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Because it would make the red line go down and we can't have that.

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people are tired of taking cover, might as well run through the battlefield

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Strider102 posted...

Because people can't survive without going to beaches, gyms, barbers, restuarant, etc.

that part sucked. all the tourist managed to get the beach closed for everyone else at the start of spring break. not even dog walker's weren't allowed.

my dog loved to walk on the beach for at least an hour.
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LightHawKnight posted...

So you want to chance your child dying from covid? Ridiculously low doesnt mean zero and when the numbers reach millions, you will see deaths.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/well/family/back-to-school-covid.html

Overall the news is reassuring when it comes to children and the risks of serious complications from Covid-19. New research suggests the Delta variant may cause more serious illness in adults, but its not known if the variant puts children at greater risk of more serious illness. Compared to adults, children diagnosed with Covid-19 are more likely to have mild symptoms or none at all. Children are also far less likely to develop severe illness, be hospitalized or die from the disease. Out of about 3.5 million cases of Covid-19 in children in the United States, the National Center for Health Statisticshas reported, as of July 28, that 519 children have died from Covid-19 (fewer than 0.015 percent), including 346 children 5 to 17 years of age, and 173 children 4 or younger. Children with underlying medical conditions are the most likely to be hospitalized. Black and Hispanic children also had higher rates of hospitalization, although overall risk remained low.

Some children infected with Covid may develop a rare but serious inflammatory syndrome. By the end of June the C.D.C. had documented 4,196 cases (about 0.1 percent of all pediatric Covid), including 37 deaths.

While any death of a child is devastating, it may help parents to think about other risks to childhood health compared to Covid-19. The C.D.C. estimates there were 480 deaths among children from influenza during the 2018-19 school year. Injury is the leading cause of death among children about 12,000 children and young adults 1 to 19 years of age die in accidents each year, including more than 4,000 deaths in car crashes, 900 drowning accidents and 761 unintentional poisonings or drug overdoses.

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Initial lockdowns were
1) Hope to contain the disease
2) Stop hospitals to get overcrowded
3) We didn't have enough ventilators
4) All of our treatments of the disease at first were really poor.

Current with delta varient:
1) There is no hope contain COVID.
2) 70% of people are vaccinated, hospitals will do fine.
3) We have a surplus of ventilators
4) We have more treatments now for the disease and better understand it.

Only an alarmist or shut in would call for another lock down.

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KILBOTz posted...

2) 70% of people are vaccinated, hospitals will do fine.

hospitals around here are getting filled up. have to turn away or transfer people soon.
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Delta rampaged through the UK and Netherlands, and their death rate barely moved. The vaccine has greatly reduced the severity.

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Greedy corporations

$$$ > human lives. Always has been that way in America

https://twitter.com/joebiden/status/1322254443644026880?lang=en

bc 46 tweeted this.


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kingdrake2 posted...

hospitals around here are getting filled up. have to turn away or transfer people soon.

you in a red anti-vax state?

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KILBOTz posted...

you in a red anti-vax state?

eastern/parts of southern oregon has alot of anti-vaxxers. lumped into idaho's ideals.
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You have always been in lockdown like 2020. Since the dawn of time.

tremain07 posted...

The rich are all vaccinated and safe so fuck everybody else, also dark money has worked very very hard astroturfing negative feelings to any and all covid restrictions including masks so the public doesn't want it either, it's over people may die but that's a risk the 1 percent are willing to take to keep their profits, Benzos is planning another space trip so he right his name in the moon with his piss to remind it who it's master is so back to work everyone and especially shut up about those abuses and wage demands.

That's not true, regarding the rich being vaccinated. The Biden admin has a don't ask don't tell policy regarding vaccinations. They won't share how many people working in the white house have or haven't been vaccinated. CDC and other health agencies also have people who have not had the vaccine.

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Because biden
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Njolk posted...

Isn't it ridiculously rare for kids to be harmed by covid?

No?

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"Surplus of ventilators" is one of the worst takes I've heard so far.

Its not about ventilators, its about beds. What makes this the worst surge yet is not just that so few people are vaccinated, but the fact that people no longer fear it. Its been over a year and so if they haven't gotten it up until now, people think they're safe and it won't effect them. So everyone is still going about, having large gatherings, not wearing masks.

What that means is that not only are people getting COVID, but people are coming to the hospital for all sorts of things. During our earlier surges when there were complete lockdowns and mask mandates, people were still scared. Hospital admissions for non-covid things were way down. Elective surgeries were all postponed to make beds.

I'm in a large hospital in the south. During the worst covid surges we were able to accommodate and take care of everyone that came in. This surge is taking off rapidly and we're completely full. I'm literally the doc on the phone receiving requests to transfer patients in, for covid or non covid things, and my answer is unfortunately no because we have no beds.

All people have to do is get the vaccine and we would literally be over this shit by now.

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tremain07 posted...

The rich are all vaccinated and safe so fuck everybody else

99.9% of doctors and the CDC are telling people the vaccine is safe and effective.

If people choose not to listen, they are fucking stupid as shit. You can't blame the rich for that.

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