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refmon 08/12/21 7:12:31 PM #1: |
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2021/08/11/at-east-york-murder-trial-defence-argues-its-not-sex-assault-if-the-victim-is-dead.html
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brotrrwinner 08/12/21 7:14:07 PM #2: |
They're right. It's necrophilia
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DrizztLink 08/12/21 7:15:06 PM #3: |
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LordFarquad1312 08/12/21 7:16:50 PM #4: |
brotrrwinner posted...
They're right. It's necrophilia --- El sexo sucio y el planeta limpio. "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RickyTheBAWSE 08/12/21 7:18:27 PM #5: |
so we just gonna ignore the falling silverware, flying books and cracking mirrors? clearly the spirit is restless and not giving consent.
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NoxObscuras 08/12/21 7:18:32 PM #6: |
brotrrwinner posted...
They're right. It's necrophiliaYep, that's what they're going for. Beaks lawyer Greg Leslie argued that his client should be acquitted on both counts because he was not involved in killing Estrada at all and because, legally, a sexual assault cannot be committed on a person who is dead. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unite 08/12/21 7:19:44 PM #7: |
If she was dead when it happened then they would be correct it would fall under a different charge.
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GiftedACIII 08/13/21 9:04:11 PM #8: |
They're also going for the "they were drunk so they weren't in the right state of mind" defense.
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NeonOctopus 08/13/21 9:07:47 PM #9: |
This is like the 1st episode of Better Call Saul lol
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ScazarMeltex 08/14/21 2:27:15 PM #11: |
GiftedACIII posted...
They're also going for the "they were drunk so they weren't in the right state of mind" defense.That defense is always so sketchy to me. If that can get you off from this sort of thing why can't it get you off from DWI? --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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harley2280 08/14/21 2:27:37 PM #12: |
I'm not super familiar with UK laws, but in the US if someone dies during commission if a felony it's automatically first degree murder. Even if you're not the person who killed them.
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DeadBankerDream 08/14/21 2:29:25 PM #13: |
If you "find" a dead body and have sex with it, I agree. If you rape someone during your murder of them, I'm not sure I'd agree.
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SSJPurple 08/14/21 2:35:35 PM #14: |
Dead or not sticking your wiener in someone without permission is messed up.
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SSJPurple 08/14/21 2:36:38 PM #15: |
DeadBankerDream posted...
If you "find" a dead body and have sex with it, DudeThats still abhorrent lol --- Long Term Effects of Suffering #G59 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 08/14/21 2:37:26 PM #16: |
SSJPurple posted...
DudeThats still abhorrent lolNo offense, but that's a really stupid post. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WesternMedia 08/16/21 12:46:13 AM #17: |
harley2280 posted...
I'm not super familiar with UK laws, but in the US if someone dies during commission if a felony it's automatically first degree murder. Even if you're not the person who killed them. Was going to say this exact thing but yeah, if it's the UK they have a record of being lenient on stuff like this. --- Cherish me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordFarquad1312 08/17/21 4:31:05 PM #19: |
SSJPurple posted...
DudeThats still abhorrent lolBut it's not rape. --- El sexo sucio y el planeta limpio. "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Barber102 08/17/21 4:44:37 PM #20: |
WesternMedia posted...
Was going to say this exact thing but yeah, if it's the UK they have a record of being lenient on stuff like this. harley2280 posted... I'm not super familiar with UK laws, but in the US if someone dies during commission if a felony it's automatically first degree murder. Even if you're not the person who killed them. pretty sure this happened in canada --- Dinosaurs built the pyramids. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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harley2280 08/17/21 7:59:09 PM #21: |
Barber102 posted...
WesternMedia posted...Was going to say this exact thing but yeah, if it's the UK they have a record of being lenient on stuff like this. My mistake. Still not familiar with Canadian law. --- "Hail to the King Baby." 3DS FC- 4656 6119 0559 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bass_X0 08/21/21 10:43:50 AM #23: |
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The Trent 08/21/21 10:44:44 AM #24: |
i feel like this was argued like 40 years ago in the courts
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monkmith 08/21/21 10:45:56 AM #25: |
DrizztLink posted...
this, though i doubt a jury would appreciate the fact... --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kim_Seong-a 08/21/21 10:46:02 AM #26: |
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CobraGT 08/21/21 10:57:23 AM #27: |
They were sober when they acquired the drugs and the crowbar would be my counter argument.
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Tyranthraxus 08/21/21 11:05:15 AM #28: |
ScazarMeltex posted...
That defense is always so sketchy to me. If that can get you off from this sort of thing why can't it get you off from DWI?Mens Rea. You made the decision to get drunk while sober. If someone spiked your drink with a different drug without your knowledge that could be a defense but would be pretty hard to prove. "I never drink and drive but this asshole slipped MDMA into my drink and fucked everything up." Might work might not. Depends on the lawyer, jury, and what you actually did. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AmericaTheBrave 08/21/21 11:12:26 AM #29: |
LordFarquad1312 posted...
But it's not rape. Yes it is. A corpse can't consent. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 08/21/21 11:19:22 AM #30: |
AmericaTheBrave posted...
Yes it is. A corpse can't consent.Well of course not, its a corpse. That said, in the US, you cannot rape a corpse. Of course necrophilia is still legal in several states as well. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 08/21/21 11:23:38 AM #31: |
daynlokki posted...
Well of course not, its a corpse. That said, in the US, you cannot rape a corpse. Of course necrophilia is still legal in several states as well. The act of necrophilia may be legal but there's enough generic corpse defilement laws that they could throw something at you and make it stick if they had to. IIRC it's not legal in any state to possess authentic human remains without a license of some kind. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 08/21/21 11:25:39 AM #32: |
daynlokki posted...
Of course necrophilia is still legal in several states as well. Wait What Why --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 08/21/21 11:27:40 AM #33: |
Ivynn posted...
WaitOne of those "nobody ever thought to make it illegal" things. Kind like how there's no federal minimum age for marriage and many states don't have one so you can marry 12 year olds in some states legally. Only thing you need is parents permission. This is a thing that actually happens in America btw. The usual suspects are behind it as well --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 08/21/21 11:58:22 AM #34: |
Ivynn posted...
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harley2280 08/21/21 2:58:46 PM #35: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
Ivynn posted...WaitOne of those "nobody ever thought to make it illegal" things. There's people in NC fighting tooth and nail to keep their ability to marry kids. It's generally done to protect child molesters. They pay the parents off, and then the victim is stuck married to their abuser with no legal recourse. --- PSN/GT: Harley2280 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bass_X0 08/21/21 3:04:25 PM #36: |
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CobraGT 08/21/21 4:17:58 PM #37: |
https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/mandel-trial-opens-in-vicious-rape-and-murder-of-east-york-mom
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CobraGT 08/21/21 5:34:03 PM #38: |
The defense says it is not sexual assault if the target is dead but what the defense is really claiming is that if you kill the target you now have consent.
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Bass_X0 08/21/21 5:41:58 PM #39: |
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Darmik 08/21/21 6:01:14 PM #40: |
Murillo has admitted to beating 41-year-old Estrada to death with a crowbar late on the night of May 25, 2018; Beak has admitted to trying to penetrate her with his penis after, he claimed, she was already dead. And to think this was the best defence they could come up with. "Actually he didn't try to rape her until she was dead! Also the guy that did that didn't beat her to death to begin with!" --- Kind Regards, Darmik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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deanshow 08/21/21 6:07:46 PM #41: |
Darmik posted...
And to think this was the best defence they could come up with.I mean she wouldn't be dead if the jerkoffs didn't beat her to death. I hope they do life for this senseless ass crime. --- Will not change this sig until Tommy Wiseau wins an Oscar (Started 12-21-2014) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 08/21/21 6:12:58 PM #42: |
harley2280 posted...
There's people in NC fighting tooth and nail to keep their ability to marry kids. And that's exactly why the 'sanctity of marriage' has always been bullshit to me. Long as that's still legal. On topic... I thought "It's not rape if they're dead" was some edgelord humor and not something someone would actually try to argue in a court of law. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Graycap 08/21/21 6:16:02 PM #43: |
Problem is this creates a loophole where you can just kill someone first then force yourself upon them and not get tagged for rape on top of murder just because they died first. >_>
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WesternMedia 08/24/21 4:52:37 AM #44: |
Kim_Seong-a posted...
Expected Florida, got New York. On further inspection, this actually seems to be from Canada. Other sources says it's from East York, Toronto, a city in Canada. --- Cherish me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 08/24/21 7:47:06 AM #45: |
Graycap posted...
Problem is this creates a loophole where you can just kill someone first then force yourself upon them and not get tagged for rape on top of murder just because they died first. >_>I don't think you thought this through. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StarSpangled 08/25/21 7:47:51 PM #46: |
WesternMedia posted...
On further inspection, this actually seems to be from Canada. Other sources says it's from East York, Toronto, a city in Canada. That sucks. --- Make love, not war- too many people have forgotten this ... Copied to Clipboard!
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deoxxys 08/25/21 7:53:49 PM #47: |
AmericaTheBrave posted...
Yes it is. A corpse can't consent.I mean a sponge cant consent either --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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