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mrduckbear 08/18/21 7:50:24 PM #1:	Should he go to prison for this? Yes No Should he go to prison for this? - Results (74 votes) Yes 79.73% (59 votes) 59 No 20.27% (15 votes) 15 38 y/o Luis Ortiz, a NYC Dad is charged with murder for beating up a man and throwing him down the STAIRS where he broke his NECK after the victim was said to have made a SEXUAL REMARK to his 14 y/o daughter!! He was arrested for 2nd degree murder and assault o 46 y/o Ariel Alvarado in East Harlem when he was found unresponsive and suffering from cuts to his knees and his neck badly injured Doctors discovered he sustained severe head trauma and internal injuries that lead to his death Alvarado allegedly make sexual remarks toward Ortiz's 14 y/o daughter and the teen's father flew into rage and punched him in the face and threw him down a flight of stairs He claimed it was SELF DEFENSE and that the man was a PEDOPHILE who was going to touch his daughter after that remark. Should he go to prison for this? Alvarado - Deceased https://i.imgur.com/e6jlSaP.jpg Where it happened - https://i.imgur.com/JJRXNZm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/sTBLRCC.jpg --- The Users have Spoken. News Will Continue...For Now <cite>mrduckbear posted [p:957215004] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote> Should he go to prison for this? Yes No Vote View Results Should he go to prison for this? - Results (74 votes) Yes 79.73% (59 votes) 59 No 20.27% (15 votes) 15 Show Voting Form 38 y/o Luis Ortiz, a NYC Dad is charged with murder for beating up a man and throwing him down the STAIRS where he broke his NECK after the victim was said to have made a SEXUAL REMARK to his 14 y/o daughter!! He was arrested for 2nd degree murder and assault o 46 y/o Ariel Alvarado in East Harlem when he was found unresponsive and suffering from cuts to his knees and his neck badly injured Doctors discovered he sustained severe head trauma and internal injuries that lead to his death Alvarado allegedly make sexual remarks toward Ortiz's 14 y/o daughter and the teen's father flew into rage and punched him in the face and threw him down a flight of stairs He claimed it was SELF DEFENSE and that the man was a PEDOPHILE who was going to touch his daughter after that remark. Should he go to prison for this? Alvarado - Deceased https://i.imgur.com/e6jlSaP.jpg Where it happened - https://i.imgur.com/JJRXNZm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/sTBLRCC.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 08/18/21 7:51:12 PM #2:	Killing people is bad --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:957215035] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>Killing people is bad </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheChariot 08/18/21 8:07:15 PM #3:	That's 2nd degree murder for sure. Possibly 1st degree. --- "The Arcana is the means by which all is revealed... One of life's greatest blessings is the freedom to pursue one's goals." -Arcana VII The Chariot <cite>TheChariot posted [p:957215510] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>That's 2nd degree murder for sure. Possibly 1st degree. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Snake07 08/18/21 8:10:04 PM #5:	Yeah, people usually go to prison for beating people to death --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:957215601] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, people usually go to prison for beating people to death </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 08/18/21 8:11:09 PM #6:	Bit of a overreaction to the point that I question if he was just looking for an excuse to kill somebody. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:957215633] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>Bit of a overreaction to the point that I question if he was just looking for an excuse to kill somebody. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Collat 08/18/21 8:11:35 PM #7:	Dude was probably asking for a punch to the face. Anything after that seems a bit excessive. <cite>Collat posted [p:957215646] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>Dude was probably asking for a punch to the face. Anything after that seems a bit excessive. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kitt 08/18/21 8:11:43 PM #8:	They both sound like basket cases in their own ways. --- I'm a little teapot blowing off steam. https://imgur.com/pmc9XsI https://imgur.com/p6Wfowq <cite>Kitt posted [p:957215650] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>They both sound like basket cases in their own ways. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 08/18/21 8:12:02 PM #9:	A punch or two would be understandable. For simply a comment, murder seems like an overreaction. --- To Trumble, or not to Trumble, that is the question. <cite>Trumble posted [p:957215665] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>A punch or two would be understandable. For simply a comment, murder seems like an overreaction. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Njolk 08/18/21 8:13:04 PM #10:	TheChariot posted... That's 2nd degree murder for sure. Possibly 1st degree. How could that possibly be 1st degree --- Suffering is expecting things to last forever <cite>Njolk posted [p:957215696] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>TheChariot posted... </cite> <quote>That's 2nd degree murder for sure. Possibly 1st degree.</quote> How could that possibly be 1st degree </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 08/18/21 8:13:12 PM #11:	omg opening this was so suspenseful. was he gonna say it or not. among your best work ft --- pisces <cite>ledbowman posted [p:957215706] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>omg opening this was so suspenseful. was he gonna say it or not. among your best work ft </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VipaGTS 08/18/21 8:14:05 PM #12:	You cant call that self defense at all. The dude who made the comment was disgusting, but nothing about that situation required him to attack the man. He had his daughter, she was safe with him. Had he been actively trying to taker her its a different story.but a simple comment? Do we even know he knew how old she was? --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." <cite>VipaGTS posted [p:957215737] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>You cant call that self defense at all. The dude who made the comment was disgusting, but nothing about that situation required him to attack the man. He had his daughter, she was safe with him. Had he been actively trying to taker her its a different story.but a simple comment? Do we even know he knew how old she was? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
One_Day_Remains 08/18/21 8:14:12 PM #13:	Would understand that reaction if the guy actually acted on his urges. He should've just punched him in the mouth Now his daughter is gonna spend the rest of her childhood without a dad --- Ten sounds sound like bloated constipated arena rock - GhettoFlip <cite>One_Day_Remains posted [p:957215740] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>Would understand that reaction if the guy actually acted on his urges. He should've just punched him in the mouth Now his daughter is gonna spend the rest of her childhood without a dad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
electricbugs2 08/18/21 8:14:16 PM #14:	To the guys credit I doubt he was trying to kill the guy, just hurt him. A flashy moneybag lawyer could easily have this as a man 1 if he says the right things, but the dude should definitely do some time. --- Balenciaga hoodies and Gucci shoes #FreeMelly <cite>electricbugs2 posted [p:957215743] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>To the guys credit I doubt he was trying to kill the guy, just hurt him. A flashy moneybag lawyer could easily have this as a man 1 if he says the right things, but the dude should definitely do some time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 08/18/21 8:15:10 PM #15:	I doubt the guy thought he'd break his neck and die when he threw him down the stairs but goddamn man. --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:957215770] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>I doubt the guy thought he'd break his neck and die when he threw him down the stairs but goddamn man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alteres 08/18/21 8:17:03 PM #16:	One_Day_Remains posted... Would understand that reaction if the guy actually acted on his urges. He should've just punched him in the mouth Now his daughter is gonna spend the rest of her childhood without a dad --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 <cite>Alteres posted [p:957215822] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>One_Day_Remains posted... </cite> <quote>Would understand that reaction if the guy actually acted on his urges. He should've just punched him in the mouth Now his daughter is gonna spend the rest of her childhood without a dad</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 08/18/21 8:17:16 PM #17:	so wait, we're taking the word of a guy who murdered someone and a kid who probably wants to protect her dad that the victim said something nasty? --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:957215826] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>so wait, we're taking the word of a guy who murdered someone and a kid who probably wants to protect her dad that the victim said something nasty? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VipaGTS 08/18/21 9:19:28 PM #18:	monkmith posted... so wait, we're taking the word of a guy who murdered someone and a kid who probably wants to protect her dad that the victim said something nasty? Thats all we really can do at this point. --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." <cite>VipaGTS posted [p:957217614] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite> <quote>so wait, we're taking the word of a guy who murdered someone and a kid who probably wants to protect her dad that the victim said something nasty?</quote>Thats all we really can do at this point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spiderman23JII 08/18/21 9:21:42 PM #19:	if the dead dude has any prior convictions then this could get interesting --- I like the dick with a lil bit of curve! -ReggieBush09 <cite>Spiderman23JII posted [p:957217674] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>if the dead dude has any prior convictions then this could get interesting </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Graycap 08/18/21 9:23:33 PM #20:	Well uh... did he know she was underage? >_> VipaGTS posted... Thats all we really can do at this point. Not how the law works. They don't just take persons of interest at their word lol. --- Say it on your main. <cite>Graycap posted [p:957217727] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>Well uh... did he know she was underage? >_> VipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote> Thats all we really can do at this point. </quote> Not how the law works. They don't just take persons of interest at their word lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nfearurspecimn 08/18/21 9:26:15 PM #21:	Graycap posted... Well uh... did he know she was underage? >_> probably, a lot of creeps out there --- Wake up. You have to wake up. currently a preta/hungry ghost Dai Grepher: I was wrong. My entire theory is incorrect. Zero Mission IS a remake of Metroid. <cite>nfearurspecimn posted [p:957217810] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>Graycap posted... </cite> <quote>Well uh... did he know she was underage? >_></quote>probably, a lot of creeps out there </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Korey 08/18/21 9:27:53 PM #22:	ledbowman posted... omg opening this was so suspenseful. was he gonna say it or not. among your best work ft xD --- https://imgur.com/PpxZDof \| https://imgur.com/xMGLcGE https://imgur.com/nsBw6Sy \| https://imgtc.com/i/sBYBaew.png <cite>The_Korey posted [p:957217859] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>omg opening this was so suspenseful. was he gonna say it or not. among your best work ft</quote> xD </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 08/18/21 10:30:50 PM #23:	VipaGTS posted... Thats all we really can do at this point. not really? tread him like the murderer he is and maybe not vilify the guy he murdered? --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:957219594] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>VipaGTS posted... </cite> <quote>Thats all we really can do at this point.</quote>not really? tread him like the murderer he is and maybe not vilify the guy he murdered? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Josiah_Is_Back 08/18/21 10:42:48 PM #24:	Comments do not justify murder. Now this young girl is going to have a father in prison. <cite>Josiah_Is_Back posted [p:957219959] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>Comments do not justify murder. Now this young girl is going to have a father in prison. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJPurple 08/18/21 10:46:27 PM #25:	monkmith posted... maybe not vilify the guy Why not? He was being a pedo to a 14 year old girl. --- Long Term Effects of Suffering #G59 <cite>SSJPurple posted [p:957220060] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite> <quote>maybe not vilify the guy</quote> Why not? He was being a pedo to a 14 year old girl. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcanine2009 08/18/21 10:47:37 PM #26:	We'll likely never know the full story cause the guy is dead. You can't say it's self defense if all he did was make a sexual comment. What he said was not okay, but but didn't deserve a beating and death. --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. <cite>Arcanine2009 posted [p:957220088] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>We'll likely never know the full story cause the guy is dead. You can't say it's self defense if all he did was make a sexual comment. What he said was not okay, but but didn't deserve a beating and death. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
3PiesAndAFork 08/18/21 10:56:44 PM #27:	If he did indeed make the sexual comment to the guys daughter then ngl I'd probably do the same thing. --- @('_')@ <cite>3PiesAndAFork posted [p:957220347] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>If he did indeed make the sexual comment to the guys daughter then ngl I'd probably do the same thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Disengaged 08/18/21 11:00:33 PM #28:	Of course he belongs in jail. But sometimes you need to look at the entire situation. What's the point of putting him in jail? He's already dead --- This is my signature. You read my signature. It sucked. <cite>Disengaged posted [p:957220450] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>Of course he belongs in jail. But sometimes you need to look at the entire situation. What's the point of putting him in jail? He's already dead </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthDemented 08/18/21 11:02:35 PM #29:	Bit of an over reaction. I'd rather take the assault charge than murder. --- Paula Wood. My love, my life. 1980-2021 https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198210788964/#sort=order <cite>DarthDemented posted [p:957220509] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>Bit of an over reaction. I'd rather take the assault charge than murder. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 08/18/21 11:04:24 PM #30:	Disengaged posted... Of course he belongs in jail. But sometimes you need to look at the entire situation. What's the point of putting him in jail? He's already dead Uh... --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:957220568] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>Disengaged posted...</cite> <quote>Of course he belongs in jail. But sometimes you need to look at the entire situation. What's the point of putting him in jail? He's already dead </quote> Uh...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brotrrwinner 08/18/21 11:07:01 PM #32:	She was somebody's daughter --- September 21st, 2008 Never forget <cite>brotrrwinner posted [p:957220644] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>She was somebody's daughter </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamerguymass 08/18/21 11:11:46 PM #33:	monkmith posted... so wait, we're taking the word of a guy who murdered someone and a kid who probably wants to protect her dad that the victim said something nasty? This is what I was thinking as well. We have no idea if he actually said anything at all as the guy is dead and the only ones who can answer that are the guy who murdered him and the murderer's daughter who is probably afraid he will beat the shit out of her to if she says nothing happened. We also have no idea what was actually said if anything was said in the first place. There is varying degrees of sexual comments ranging from vulgar descriptions of stuff to something as stupid as hey baby which isn't even really sexual at all, but would piss off a guy hearing someone say it to their 14 year old. --- Now Playing: "The Hunt for the Two Missing Nintendo 64 Games" An expansion came out, but I'm still a third of the way through! <cite>Gamerguymass posted [p:957220758] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite> <quote>so wait, we're taking the word of a guy who murdered someone and a kid who probably wants to protect her dad that the victim said something nasty?</quote> This is what I was thinking as well. We have no idea if he actually said anything at all as the guy is dead and the only ones who can answer that are the guy who murdered him and the murderer's daughter who is probably afraid he will beat the shit out of her to if she says nothing happened. We also have no idea what was actually said if anything was said in the first place. There is varying degrees of sexual comments ranging from vulgar descriptions of stuff to something as stupid as hey baby which isn't even really sexual at all, but would piss off a guy hearing someone say it to their 14 year old. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pikachupwnage 08/18/21 11:30:28 PM #34:	Unless said remark was "I'm going to rape you" I don't see how that is justified. Also were there other witnesses? Did thr guy even know she was underage? A good punch to the face though....yeah he earned that much...assuming the father is telling the truth. --- My Mario Maker 2 Maker ID is J2K-RFD-K4G Even In sigs FOE! http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif <cite>pikachupwnage posted [p:957221272] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>Unless said remark was "I'm going to rape you" I don't see how that is justified. Also were there other witnesses? Did thr guy even know she was underage? A good punch to the face though....yeah he earned that much...assuming the father is telling the truth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 08/18/21 11:49:23 PM #35:	SSJPurple posted... Why not? He was being a pedo to a 14 year old girl. according to who? the guy who literally murdered him? the guy looking for literally any defense that he can make to mitigate responsibility for his actions? --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:957221699] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>SSJPurple posted... </cite> <quote>Why not? He was being a pedo to a 14 year old girl.</quote>according to who? the guy who literally murdered him? the guy looking for literally any defense that he can make to mitigate responsibility for his actions? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Disengaged 08/18/21 11:58:58 PM #36:	monkmith posted... according to who? the guy who literally murdered him? the guy looking for literally any defense that he can make to mitigate responsibility for his actions? No, the story says it was the witnesses that lead them to the father, that told the police about the pedophile. --- This is my signature. You read my signature. It sucked. <cite>Disengaged posted [p:957221910] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite> <quote>according to who? the guy who literally murdered him? the guy looking for literally any defense that he can make to mitigate responsibility for his actions?</quote> No, the story says it was the witnesses that lead them to the father, that told the police about the pedophile. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nesplayer 08/19/21 12:32:47 AM #38:	two wrongs don't make a right. I have the feeling the jury will hear about what juror nullification is from the defense. --- He (Manfred) genuinely enjoys ruining the game for everybody. -AbellaDanger <cite>nesplayer posted [p:957222624] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>two wrongs don't make a right. I have the feeling the jury will hear about what juror nullification is from the defense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 08/19/21 12:35:49 AM #39:	I mean, yeah, he killed a guy over a comment. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:957222676] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>I mean, yeah, he killed a guy over a comment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 08/19/21 12:36:36 AM #40:	Murder was way too far. A punch to the face would have sufficed. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. <cite>Umbreon posted [p:957222687] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>Murder was way too far. A punch to the face would have sufficed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snip-N-Snails 08/19/21 12:38:25 AM #41:	Disengaged posted... No, the story says it was the witnesses that lead them to the father, that told the police about the pedophile. Where are you getting this? I looked up the story and didn't see anything like this. https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-man-dies-fight-punched-thrown-down-stairs-east-harlem-20210818-oiglcgm2kndahcma5cfyvagz44-story.html --- #BLM <cite>Snip-N-Snails posted [p:957222727] in NYC Dad KI... [t:79620482]...</cite> <quote>Disengaged posted... </cite> <quote>No, the story says it was the witnesses that lead them to the father, that told the police about the pedophile.</quote>Where are you getting this? I looked up the story and didn't see anything like this. https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-man-dies-fight-punched-thrown-down-stairs-east-harlem-20210818-oiglcgm2kndahcma5cfyvagz44-story.html </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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