Current Events > Abused girl's father kills pedophile friend

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Tappor posted...

Honestly, why shouldn't I say "fair, next"?

b-but think of these twenty hypothetical other situations I came up with to justify putting this man in jail!

synth_real posted...

I would argue that if there's a good reason, it's not murder.

And I'd disagree. Premeditated killing without legal justification or authority is the textbook definition of murder, as I see it. Being angry is not a legal justification.

Tappor posted...

Honestly, why shouldn't I say "fair, next"?

because you may not like that the man committed murder? If you don't mind that, then "fair, next" could be an appropriate response

LinkDaLunatic posted...

b-but think of these twenty hypothetical other situations I came up with to justify putting this man in jail!

Tbh if there isn't direct proof of the act then it would lead to a dangerous slippery slope. I.e. someone claiming you did it and subsequently killing you

I'm more concerned about that than anything
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Bass_X0 posted...

https://metro.co.uk/2021/09/04/dad-killed-peadophile-after-seeing-video-of-him-raping-daughter-15206300

Should he be spared the murder charge in this situation?

I think so. It was justified.

justifiescor not no one can take the law into their own hands thats what the justice ststem is for, charge him with murder or manslaughter

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Fam_Fam posted...

people here are fucked up. murder is fine, if you have a good reason?

There are good reasons to take another life, I would consider this one of them.

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Goldenguy posted...

Going strictly by the letter of US law, he should be charged as he isn't judge, jury, or executioner. Not sure how that works in Russia, though.

Morally speaking, he definitely should not be charged for removing such a dreg of society. Or even if charged, should be immediately acquitted. I love the "he ran into my knife during an argument" part.

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Animal Farm, George Orwell

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The issue here isn't what whether or not what the guy did was wrong. The reason societies punish people like this is because if you allow them to get away with what they did, however justified it might be, you teach other people that it's ok to take law into their hands. In situations where it might not be so cut and dry as this one clearly was. Which then leads to innocent people being killed because some person was convinced they did something. Which happened because you created a society wherein it's permissible to believe yourself judge, jury, and executioner.

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People who take advantage of and abuse children should be given a swift death penalty. They shouldn't be humanized. If you believe child abusers deserve any ounce of sympathy or humanization, you're a terrible human being. While we all wish child abusers would be murdered in cold blood in broad daylight, it's best that our legal system reprioritize sex/abuse crimes against children and opt for at least a minimum life sentence. If they could be executed that'd be all the better, but logistically there would be too many of these worthless animals on death row, wasting taxpayers' money by simply breathing.

This news story is a great thing. It's a wonderful thing that a worthless monster that abuses children is no longer a harm to them. I applaud the father for what he did.

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Solution_45 posted...

yes he should avoid punishment.

he did society a huge favor.

Notti posted...

This.

And vigilantism doesn't work because people intentionally start rumors or frame others for crimes.

Have we all seen how gullible most people are with conspiracy theories and antivax stuff, and anti-5G paranoia?

Wayyyyyyyy too many stupid/evil people to trust that they get justice right. But, blood thirsty vigilantes only think about their one case that affected them. They don't think beyond that.

while true there was videos of him molesting several children. There is no doubt this guy was guilty.


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I for one am glad the pedophile survived long enough to know why he was being stabbed to death

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Really fucking weird that some users that would normally be fighting against other users for going "LAW AND ORDER" are suddenly doing a 180 and using "ITS THE LAW" as an excuse to shit on other users itt who have the opinion that the article in OP wasn't murder. Really fucking weird.

This wasn't any other stranger, the scum criminal was his best friend, I can only imagine how betrayed he felt on top of his rage.

Hopefully he gets the shortest jail time possible, where he gets out in a few months for good behavior or by a pardon or whatever.

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CyricZ posted...

Yeah, reading up on it, it seems very beneficial to the citizens. The ability of a group of citizens to directly protest the law itself rather than have to find someone guilty based on a law they don't agree with or a misapplication of the law seems like a real good thing.

I agree with this guy in regards to not sending the father to prison.

Nestor_Cortes posted...

I agree with this guy in regards to not sending the father to prison.

"Because this other user agrees in civil, specifically nonviolent, protest against injustice, I feel entirely clear of conscience enabling people to seek vengeance through the point of a knife." said the very... very sane person.

Nestor_Cortes posted...

Really fucking weird that some users that would normally be fighting against other users for going "LAW AND ORDER" are suddenly doing a 180 and using "ITS THE LAW" as an excuse to shit on other users itt who have the opinion that the article in OP wasn't murder. Really fucking weird.

"Murder should be allowed with good cause!" says Rational Man.

EDIT: "Sorry wait, we'll specifically not call it murder! We'll call it "gleeble-gorp" and it's basically killing someone when you're really angry because that person committed a crime! Woo! Justice! Yeah! Sanity!"

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Yikes

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CyricZ posted...

concern trolling

tagged

CyricZ posted...

"Because this other user agrees in civil, specifically nonviolent, protest against injustice, I feel entirely clear of conscience enabling people to seek vengeance through the point of a knife." said the very... very sane person.

"Murder should be allowed with good cause!" says Rational Man.

EDIT: "Sorry wait, we'll specifically not call it murder! We'll call it "gleeble-gorp" and it's basically killing someone when you're really angry because that person committed a crime! Woo! Justice! Yeah! Sanity!"

The hill you're choosing to die on to defend a take you have never ever taken in your entire life in regards to anything else on this site is quite the hill.

man, i remember when Cyric was an actual poster worth a shit here.

too bad it's been over a decade since that time, oh well.

Dad deserves a medal and a slap on the wrist. Do they have Crime of Passion laws in Russia? I know the dad in the texas case was acquitted when he murdered the family friend he caught raping his daughter in a shed. Hopefully Russia has similar laws.

lmfao at anyone concern trolling over a father finding a video of his own 8 year old daughter being raped by a friend and pulling out the "just go to the cops bro" line. Really pathetic tbh

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he should have some kind of consequence, like 10-15 years in prison, and honestly that's a lenient sentence for murder. punishment is up to the court of law, not the victims father. don't care if the father was mad or whatever. it's awful that happened to the victim but doesn't make it a free pass for murder.
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My only complaint is that he killed him too quickly. The pedo deserved a Hostel movie style death tied to a chair and prolonged agony.

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Zodd3224 posted...

My only complaint is that he killed him too quickly. The pedo deserved a Hostel movie style death tied to a chair and prolonged agony.

Car battery shocks to the nuts

PlsGodDontBanMe posted...

man, i remember when Cyric was an actual poster worth a shit here.

too bad it's been over a decade since that time, oh well.

Dad deserves a medal and a slap on the wrist. Do they have Crime of Passion laws in Russia? I know the dad in the texas case was acquitted when he murdered the family friend he caught raping his daughter in a shed. Hopefully Russia has similar laws.

lmfao at anyone concern trolling over a father finding a video of his own 8 year old daughter being raped by a friend and pulling out the "just go to the cops bro" line. Really pathetic tbh

Especially when said person has fought tooth and nail to defend takes where "don't go to the cops" or "law is unjustified" in like, every fucking argument ever.

Charge him in order to avoid precedent

Then give him a slap on the wrist

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what a weird ass hill for cyric to die on

Give him a medal.

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Good thats a real father

@CyricZ

absolute scum tbh.

PlsGodDontBanMe posted...

man, i remember when Cyric was an actual poster worth a shit here.

too bad it's been over a decade since that time, oh well.

Dad deserves a medal and a slap on the wrist. Do they have Crime of Passion laws in Russia? I know the dad in the texas case was acquitted when he murdered the family friend he caught raping his daughter in a shed. Hopefully Russia has similar laws.

lmfao at anyone concern trolling over a father finding a video of his own 8 year old daughter being raped by a friend and pulling out the "just go to the cops bro" line. Really pathetic tbh

killing someone being caught in the act is not premeditated but waiting a day or 2 is and is wrong


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sabrestorm posted...

killing someone being caught in the act is not premeditated but waiting a day or 2 is and is wrong

Sorry, not about to defend a guy whos literally in 4k molesting a child. When that child is my daughter. Which basically means the girl will need therapy the rest of her life, you took her entire innocence and childhood.

Yeah. yall are tripping and have never had anyone small in your life youve cared for. If you think anyone is going to act rationally in that circumstance youre indeed the person who is actually fucked up in the head and actually lacks empathy. Youre basically a robot

---Devin--- posted...

Sorry, not about to defend a guy whos literally in 4k molesting a child. When that child is my daughter. Which basically means the girl will need therapy the rest of her life, you took her entire innocence and childhood.

Yeah. yall are tripping and have never had anyone small in your life youve cared for. If you think anyone is going to act rationally in that circumstance youre indeed the person who is actually fucked up in the head and actually lacks empathy. Youre basically a robot

im not gonna defend a child molester either but i will defend the law

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Notti posted...

This.

And vigilantism doesn't work because people intentionally start rumors or frame others for crimes.

Have we all seen how gullible most people are with conspiracy theories and antivax stuff, and anti-5G paranoia?

Wayyyyyyyy too many stupid/evil people to trust that they get justice right. But, blood thirsty vigilantes only think about their one case that affected them. They don't think beyond that.

this

Understandable reaction, but it's still murder though. And too slippery a slope. You don't want people to go around thinking it's okay to butcher each other with impunity just because, "No he was actually a scumbag, trust me, I deserve a medal!". There won't always be clear evidence of 'justification' like this.

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How CE sees themselves:

How they really are:


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Topics like these remind me how many celibate nerds on GFAQs are not, and never will be, parents.

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Zodd3224 posted...

Topics like these remind me how many celibate nerds on GFAQs are not, and never will be, parents.

He says, after having aired his power nerd fantasy out in this topic. Lmao.

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COVxy posted...

He says, after having aired his power nerd fantasy out in this topic. Lmao.

Touched a nerve I see

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Zodd3224 posted...

Touched a nerve I see

See above alt post.

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That's not how the justice system should work. In fact, it defeats the whole point of having a justice system at all.

I understand the father's rage and emphasize with him (and who can't?), but that was a matter for the police. And now his own crime should be a matter for the courts.

Also, wtf @ this statement from the accused pedo's mother:
"When he was baby-sat these girls, he came back home as normal, in a good mood."

Kloe_Rinz posted...

Yes absolutely. Hes not a risk to society and hes unlikely to ever kill anyone else

People who take the law into their hands and use lethal force are definitely a risk to society, and he's very likely to kill again the next time he feels justified to do so... and the next time he kills somebody, you'll likely be defending him again.

Funkydog posted...

That said, justice and courts exist for a reason (supposedly) to make sure people are actually guilty of a crime. Otherwise every murderer could just say they killed a nonce to excuse themselves, or the accusation could merely be a lie/rumour. We really cannot be happy with vigilante justice as it almost never knows the facts of the matter, nor should we be letting angry people decide the punishment when someone is guilty.

This.

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He needs to be punished in some way, nothing extreme given the circumstances and the fact there was actual proof.

This can't be encouraged by giving him a free pass because then you get people being murdered for accusations of paedophilia with no actual proof.

Zodd3224 posted...

Topics like these remind me how many celibate nerds on GFAQs are not, and never will be, parents.

Hopefully an edgelord man-child like you hasn't bred.

Damn I dont even wanna think about what skeletons this @KainFourteh guys got in his fucking closet lol

KainFourteh posted...

Hopefully an edgelord man-child like you hasn't bred.

Another one

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PC_Genjin posted...

Damn I dont even wanna think about what skeletons this @KainFourteh guys got in his fucking closet lol

Are you even mentally competent enough to post here? Guessing not by your post.

Zodd3224 posted...

Another one

Childish response from a childish user, shocker.

KainFourteh posted...

Are you even mentally competent enough to post here? Guessing not by your post.

If you meant how old are you Im well over 13, sorry to disappoint

I pray he gets indicted on murder. I'm not sticking up for pedophiles but no one is allowed to take the law into their own hands and murder a person just because you don't like something they did wrong. If everyone was able to get away with murder just because they didn't like what a person did then there isn't much true justice for such crime. So yes he deserves to be indicted for murder and I'll pray on it he gets harsh justice just as he dealt out :)

Well it seems Jury trials have been restored in Russia since the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Seems obvious what should happen then.
The Russian prosecution service should charge him with murder. He pleads not guilty and then they bring him to trial and we'll let a jury of his peers decide.
There's not a fucking jury on the earth who will convict this guy even on a majority Verdict.
Justice done the system working as intended.

EricDraven59 posted...

I pray he gets indicted on murder. I'm not sticking up for pedophiles but no one is allowed to take the law into their own hands and murder a person just because you don't like something they did wrong. If everyone was able to get away with murder just because they didn't like what a person did then there isn't much true justice for such crime. So yes he deserves to be indicted for murder and I'll pray on it he gets harsh justice just as he dealt out :)

not surprised that the kind of person who prays has this take


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