Current Events > 9.3 million lose their unemployment benefits today

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Antifar
09/06/21 9:26:10 AM
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Happy Labor Day

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ApherosyLove
09/06/21 9:27:01 AM
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Antifar, be honest, is North America fucked?
Are we gonna make it?

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g980
09/06/21 9:27:08 AM
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All their unemployment benefits or just the extra $300 ?
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Njolk
09/06/21 9:27:45 AM
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And all the laborers are forced to come into work today while the white collars get the day off

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Antifar
09/06/21 9:27:57 AM
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g980 posted...
All their unemployment benefits or just the extra $300 ?
Sorry, yeah, I should've said expanded benefits

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treewojima
09/06/21 9:29:12 AM
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Hey, at least it's better than being a COMMUNIST and celebrating May Day or something. Labor Day is authentic. I should call some of my coworkers and wish them well, but they're busy at work so yeah
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SoggyBottomBoy
09/06/21 9:34:23 AM
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I lost mine in May and have been on the struggle bus like crazy

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chrono625
09/06/21 10:23:13 AM
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Njolk posted...
And all the laborers are forced to come into work today while the white collars get the day off

I'm not white collar and I have off.

get a better job - support unions.

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OrangeShirt
09/06/21 10:29:00 AM
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Maybe now all of the places around my area desperate for employees will get staffing. The McDonalds is offering $13 an hour and a $300 bonus if the employee stays on for 90+ days. Dairy Queen is offering an iPad to those it hires. Still can't fill positions.
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CADE FOSTER
09/06/21 10:44:43 AM
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If this doesnt make the people go back to shitty jobs nothing will right gop
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Kaiganeer
09/06/21 10:45:57 AM
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i hear wendy's is hiring
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Nestor_Cortes
09/06/21 10:47:10 AM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
If this doesnt make the people go back to shitty jobs nothing will right gop


shhhh they'll never figure this out
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Solid Snake07
09/06/21 10:47:52 AM
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Luckily for them there are a ton of open jobs

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Nestor_Cortes
09/06/21 10:49:09 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Luckily for them there are a ton of open jobs


open jobs =\= suitable jobs
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Solid Snake07
09/06/21 10:50:04 AM
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Nestor_Cortes posted...
open jobs =\= suitable jobs


Cry more

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Nestor_Cortes
09/06/21 10:51:02 AM
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What am I crying about? I don't have to work those jobs. I'm hoping no one has to ever again either until they are paid fairly.
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PoundGarden
09/06/21 10:51:46 AM
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9.3 million people should probably go find jobs tomorrow. Plenty of places hiring.

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Nestor_Cortes
09/06/21 10:52:24 AM
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PoundGarden posted...
9.3 million people should probably go find jobs tomorrow. Plenty of places hiring.


plenty of places hiring are still hiring for a damn good reason
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Solid Snake07
09/06/21 10:56:52 AM
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Nestor_Cortes posted...
What am I crying about? I don't have to work those jobs. I'm hoping no one has to ever again either until they are paid fairly.


Sounds like unskilled workers are in the best negotiating position in decades to me.

And if I had no income I'd consider just about any job to be suitable temporarily. Sorry you think they're below you. Unlike you I don't view those kinds of jobs and the people who do them as below me.

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Nestor_Cortes
09/06/21 10:58:18 AM
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Sounds like unskilled workers are in the best negotiating position in decades to me.


Lmao at least try to hide your bias.

And if I had no income I'd consider just about any job to be suitable temporarily.


People have gone from retail jobs to trading stocks and cryptocurrencies. Assuming they can't afford school.
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Solid Snake07
09/06/21 10:59:55 AM
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Nestor_Cortes posted...
Lmao at least try to hide your bias.


You're the one being condescending

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Nestor_Cortes
09/06/21 11:00:28 AM
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You literally called retail workers unskilled. How is that not condescending?
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Monolith1676
09/06/21 11:00:30 AM
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Well just like before the pandemic, unemployment benefits run out.

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PoundGarden
09/06/21 11:00:49 AM
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Nestor_Cortes posted...
plenty of places hiring are still hiring for a damn good reason

Yeah, UI pays better. That stops today. Everyone wins.

Nestor_Cortes posted...
Lmao at least try to hide your bias.

People have gone from retail jobs to trading stocks and cryptocurrencies. Assuming they can't afford school.

Putting pizza's or sandwiches together requires skill and extensive training? Crazy, didn't seem that complex when I did it in HS.

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Solid Snake07
09/06/21 11:01:04 AM
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Nestor_Cortes posted...
People have gone from retail jobs to trading stocks and cryptocurrencies. Assuming they can't afford school


Well if they can make a steady living doing that good for them.

But the vast majority won't.

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Lathissamus
09/06/21 11:01:21 AM
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Nestor_Cortes posted...
What am I crying about? I don't have to work those jobs. I'm hoping no one has to ever again either until they are paid fairly.
Paid fairly? Minimum wage is fair considering the lack of demand and skill required.

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Alteres
09/06/21 11:04:10 AM
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Lathissamus posted...
Paid fairly? Minimum wage is fair considering the lack of demand and skill required.
Demand could certainly be argued in this case, especially with the bonuses and iPads mentioned earlier.

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chrono625
09/06/21 11:05:30 AM
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Nestor_Cortes posted...
You literally called retail workers unskilled. How is that not condescending?

by definition they are unskilled.

a tradesman is your traditional skilled worker by definition.

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Nestor_Cortes
09/06/21 11:05:40 AM
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Putting pizza's or sandwiches together requires skill and extensive training? Crazy, didn't seem that complex when I did it in HS.


Working in your dad's pizza shop in the 90s is nowhere close to the level of demand and expectations expected from retail workers in 2021 during a fucking pandemic.

chrono625 posted...


by definition they are unskilled.

a tradesman is your traditional skilled worker by definition.


Customer service is a skill. Time management is a skill. Handling over three tasks at one time while customers/bosses breathe down your neck and berate you is a skill.
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HaVeNII7
09/06/21 11:06:54 AM
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Lathissamus posted...
Paid fairly? Minimum wage is fair considering the lack of demand and skill required.
Thats horse shit. Anyone working forty hours a week deserves a wage that can take care of them. PERIOD.

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Nestor_Cortes
09/06/21 11:07:46 AM
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lack of demand


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Cheater87
09/06/21 11:07:58 AM
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The GOP did this didn't they?

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kingdrake2
09/06/21 11:10:57 AM
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Dairy Queen is offering an iPad to those it hires


there's no chance of dairy queen. the virus ended the business (a casualty of corona).
have to go about 5 miles out of town if want some ice cream.
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Lathissamus
09/06/21 11:12:52 AM
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HaVeNII7 posted...
Thats horse shit. Anyone working forty hours a week deserves a wage that can take care of them. PERIOD.
No, what you just said is "horse shit."

Minimum wage in itself is already "horse shit."

And where I live, minimum wage can take care of you if you BUDGET. I've seen it first hand. Make sacrifices. Take public transport. Ride a bike. Eat less. Consume less.

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kingdrake2
09/06/21 11:13:55 AM
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Lathissamus posted...
minimum wage can take care of you if you BUDGET. I've seen it first hand. Make sacrifices. Take public transport. Ride a bike. Eat less. Consume less.


it's even worse around here. have to have family or roommates to survive on mininum wage.
not as high as new york but it's very high rent.
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Nestor_Cortes
09/06/21 11:14:10 AM
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And where I live, minimum wage can take care of you if you BUDGET. I've seen it first hand. Make sacrifices. Take public transport. Ride a bike. Eat less. Consume less.


Is this the budget you're referring to?

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Nestor_Cortes
09/06/21 11:16:48 AM
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Politicians should be forced to work 200 hours community service yearly in the restaurant or fast-food industry. They need to realize that it's much more complex than "PUT BUN ON BURGER IDIOT"
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Lathissamus
09/06/21 11:18:37 AM
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Nestor_Cortes posted...
Is this the budget you're referring to?

https://i.imgur.com/7B7Qroi.png
Remove car insurance, remove health insurance, remove car payment, drop the phone price a bit. Who is buying all this stuff on minimum wage? Maybe that's why people stay poor. Don't know how to under consume.

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Lathissamus
09/06/21 11:20:25 AM
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Nestor_Cortes posted...
Politicians should be forced to work 200 hours community service yearly in the restaurant or fast-food industry. They need to realize that it's much more complex than "PUT BUN ON BURGER IDIOT"
The level of intelligence, work ethic, and skill of these workers is bottom-tier, and that's why they do not make more. The good ones will work at better restaurants, or will quickly find better work.

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Solid Snake07
09/06/21 11:20:43 AM
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Nestor_Cortes posted...
Working in your dad's pizza shop in the 90s is nowhere close to the level of demand and expectations expected from retail workers in 2021 during a fucking pandemic.


Unsurprisingly you don't even understand the very basic concept of unskilled labor. Has nothing to do with how easy or hard the job is. It means you can get hired for that job with little to no qualification or experience.

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_MorningStar
09/06/21 11:21:03 AM
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Lathissamus posted...
Remove car insurance, remove health insurance, remove car payment, drop the phone price a bit
Just say you hate poor people. No car? Remove health insurance?

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Nestor_Cortes
09/06/21 11:22:49 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...


Unsurprisingly you don't even understand the very basic concept of unskilled labor. Has nothing to do with how easy or hard the job is. It means you can get hired for that job with little to no qualification or experience.


I'm using the dictionary definition of the term skilled, not the convenient made up definition to protect a system that benefits an arbitrary group of worker class and belittles other worker classes to the same level as peasants.
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rexcrk
09/06/21 11:23:31 AM
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I love how these topics always bring out the people whove never had to work retail, or live in an area where there arent a lot of non-shitty jobs, or who couldnt go to school for whatever reason, etc.

Not everyone has the same opportunities. They shouldnt have to be punished.

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Lathissamus
09/06/21 11:23:53 AM
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_MorningStar posted...
Just say you hate poor people. No car? Remove health insurance?
Cars are a privilege and there are many ways to get around a city.

Health insurance is a scam for anyone living in poverty. You do not need health insurance to go to the doctor during anything that is severe.

I do not hate poor people, stop projecting.

You are advocating for people to stay poor by telling them they need to spend more money on things they do not need.


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Nestor_Cortes
09/06/21 11:25:55 AM
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rexcrk posted...
I love how these topics always bring out the people whove never had to work retail, or live in an area where there arent a lot of non-shitty jobs, or who couldnt go to school for whatever reason, etc.

Not everyone has the same opportunities. They shouldnt have to be punished.


It's sad because I used to think exactly like how Solid Snake thinks of what he calls "unskilled" positions. It was because I was forced to work those positions that opened my eyes and made me change my entire worldview of how the system works and how it should work.

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Solid Snake07
09/06/21 11:28:33 AM
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Nestor_Cortes posted...
I'm using the dictionary definition of the term skilled, not the convenient made up definition to protect a system that benefits an arbitrary group of worker class and belittles other worker classes to the same level as peasants.


You're the one belittling people. I used to work with people just like you back in my restaurant days that just constantly exuded this uppity attitude of "I'm too good for this job"

Well they weren't, neither are you and neither am I. Push came to shove I'd go back and get a restuarant job tomorrow if I needed to.

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Arcanine2009
09/06/21 11:29:18 AM
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Don't feel bad. So many people I know chose not to go to work on purpose and was just mooching off unemployment for months. There are some that genuinely need it, but not the ones taking advantage of the system. duck those guys

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Nestor_Cortes
09/06/21 11:30:41 AM
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back in my restaurant days


Please stop applying experiences that happened almost 30+ years ago to an environment that is completely different today.
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Lathissamus
09/06/21 11:31:01 AM
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Nestor_Cortes posted...
It's sad because I used to think exactly like how Solid Snake thinks of what he calls "unskilled" positions. It was because I was forced to work those positions that opened my eyes and made me change my entire worldview of how the system works and how it should work.

Conservatism is a disease brought upon by the lack of world experience.
How much schooling or training did you have to attend before you were able to enter the field? None, I'd wager. You wanna know why a fry cook is not getting payed as much as a barber? Because you don't know anything that an average Joe on the street can't come in and potentially do better than you with no prior training.

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