Current Events > Thousands of ANTI-VAXX Canadians don't want MRNA Vaccines..They want J&J!!

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Thousands of Unvaccinated Canadians are REFUSING the offering of MRNA Vaccines of Moderna and Pfizer because they do not trust the manufacturer's new technology into their bodies..nor do they trust Oxford's Astrazenica which causes rare blood clots..but now they demand Justin Trudeau offer ANOTHER choice to them after and they want the single shot vaccine JOHNSON & JOHNSON which was approved in the United States!!

Columunist and past radio host and former leader of the far-right Wildrose Party, Danielle Smith says there are thousands of albertans like herself who do not trust mrna technology and claim they are not anti-vaxx but demand Justin Trudeau to offer them choice

She said it was expensive and a nuisance to cross the border to get the johnson vaccine but it was worth it because she TRUSTS this one the most as do many of her followers who have now mounted an online fundraiser to challenge Trudeau to make more COVID-19 therapies available

Now she may get her wish as Alberta, BC and Saskatchewan are asking them to supply 20,000 doses of the vaccine for their anti-vaxx constituents

Federal Health Minister, Patty Hadju said they are working on it and has contacted provinces who are interested

Rural MLA's and healthcare workers are telling them their unvaccinated want this vaccine because they believe is the SUPERIOR one and causes LESS EFFECTS

The combined provinces are demanding 50,000 J&J vaccines

Thousands of these people say they are not great with needles and would rather have a "one and done" vaccine rather than continuing to have multiple shots

J&J however has no scientific advantage over the others and is similar to Astrazenica which it too causes blood clots and is 66% effective against COVID-19 but 2 doses of the J&J shot provide 94% effective rate

Alberta has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the country and is in turmoil with its hospitals filling up with patients and is now asking Trudeau for help

Do you think these people are idiots?

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J&J isn't an MRNA vaccine?

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This is not what anti vaxx means

People sure do get really weird over vaccines. If the government wanted to put some weird shit in your body I guarantee it is already in there. But nah yeah totally the vaccine is where all the bad stuff is.

MRNA is a valid reason to not get a vaccine, so long as another vaccine is available which is.

People with immunocompromised systems or history of that are at risk when using MRNA.

def87c807x posted...

MRNA is a valid reason to not get a vaccine, so long as another vaccine is available which is.

People with immunocompromised systems or history of that are at risk when using MRNA.

No.

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Anything's better than the Russian and Chinese vaxxes.

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Vampire_Wreath posted...

No.

I think a doctor might be better to answer this question bot just random CE users.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

I think a doctor might be better to answer this question bot just random CE users.

NEW USER def87c807x has the burden of proof since the CDC has approved mRNA vaxxes and boosters for the immunocompromised.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/clinical-considerations/covid-19-vaccines-us.html#considerations-additional-vaccine-dose

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Vampire_Wreath posted...

No.

What do you mean no? I'm not advocating to avoid vaccines completely. If another vaccine without MRNA is available, it should be taken for people who are at risk to live virus vaccines.

But given the choice between MRNA and no vaccine at all, obviously take the fucking vaccine. The issue is this shouldn't have to be a choice to be made.

What's wrong with the MRNA Vaccines?


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if these are the kind of mental gymnastics required for them to get any sort of jab, then whatevs

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it's bullshit
they still won't get it

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Dumb, 2 penises (johnson and johnson) have more microchips! (I am joking)
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Especially funny that they want it but not AstraZeneca, considering the two are basically the same fucking thing. (With the difference in effectiveness coming from the 1 dose vs 2.)

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berlyman101 posted...

it's bullshit
they still won't get it

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Again, MRNA vaccines are not advised for the immunocompromised and people with history of that. The non MRNA vaccines are safer.

It is better than no vaccine.

I would honestly rather they get the vaccine that seems to have the least protection than for those same folks to keep going around maskless and without a shot.

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Now I feel bad about getting the J&J shot because it associates me with these dumbfucks.

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I'm Canadian and I got two Pfizer shots. I'm perfectly fine. Arguably I'm healthier now than I've been anytime in my adult life.

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J&J doesn't have proteins that cross the BBB

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def87c807x posted...

What do you mean no? I'm not advocating to avoid vaccines completely. If another vaccine without MRNA is available, it should be taken for people who are at risk to live virus vaccines.

I'm pretty sure you got that backwards.

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def87c807x posted...

Again, MRNA vaccines are not advised for the immunocompromised and people with history of that.

Again, this is not true.

yemmy posted...

J&J doesn't have proteins that cross the BBB

Neither do the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine, in case you weren't aware

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just give them the JnJ, and hope they won't make another excuse to avoid the jab.

ffs, in my country only sinovac is available and I still took it, even though i trust it the least than other vacs.

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Frolex posted...

Again, this is not true.

Neither do the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine, in case you weren't aware

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/12/201217154046.htm

This says that the spike proteins do pass through the blood brain barrier, and that the virus can cause brain fog. If the mRNA vaccines include the spike proteins that are present in SARS-CoV-2 then it would be more than likely that they would also pass through the blood brain barrier.

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Oneform posted...

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/12/201217154046.htm

This says that the spike proteins do pass through the blood brain barrier, and that the virus can cause brain fog. If the mRNA vaccines include the spike proteins that are present in SARS-CoV-2 then it would be more than likely that they would also pass through the blood brain barrier.

https://www.wbtw.com/health/coronavirus/experts-debunk-theory-that-spike-proteins-in-covid-19-vaccines-are-cytotoxic/

None the vaccines, MRNA or otherwise, contain any spike proteins.Putting in a bare minimum of time into better informing yourself before you hit post would have kept you from spreading misinformation about a pandemic during that pandemic, please keep this in mind for the future champ.

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All of the vaccines used here include instructions for making spike proteins and do not include any actual spike proteins. Most of the spike proteins will just remain with the cell that made them, but some will get loose. The biggest difference between JnJ and Moderna/Pfizer is the delivery mechanism. JnJ uses a virus thats had its genetic information swapped out with covid spike protein information while the other two use lipid wrapped mRNA to get the spike protein instructions into cells.

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def87c807x posted...

What do you mean no? I'm not advocating to avoid vaccines completely. If another vaccine without MRNA is available, it should be taken for people who are at risk to live virus vaccines.

But given the choice between MRNA and no vaccine at all, obviously take the fucking vaccine. The issue is this shouldn't have to be a choice to be made.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/hcp/mrna.html



You're disgusting to troll about this

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omg

there is wild, rampant misinformation in this topic

This is why this country is doomed

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Well at least these nuts a better than the other nuts. Get the J&J, it's way better than nothing at all.

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Frolex posted...

https://www.wbtw.com/health/coronavirus/experts-debunk-theory-that-spike-proteins-in-covid-19-vaccines-are-cytotoxic/

None the vaccines, MRNA or otherwise, contain any spike proteins.Putting in a bare minimum of time into better informing yourself before you hit post would have kept you from spreading misinformation about a pandemic during that pandemic, please keep this in mind for the future champ.

Unfortunately I couldn't read the link provided as I'm based in England. However, my apologies as it's instructions in relation to make spike proteins within cells instead of including them.

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If they want a vaccine (JnJ) then theyre not antivax.

/flopic

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Frolex posted...

None the vaccines, MRNA or otherwise, contain any spike proteins.Putting in a bare minimum of time into better informing yourself before you hit post would have kept you from spreading misinformation about a pandemic during that pandemic, please keep this in mind for the future champ.

Like, dude, come on. This is the kind of gotcha that alt-righters and similar would use - "oh well TECHNICALLY it doesn't contain spike proteins, it just contains substances that tell your body to make spike proteins".

You can easily shoot down this person's bullshit without resorting to that kind of crap.

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Trumble posted...

Like, dude, come on. This is the kind of gotcha that alt-righters and similar would use - "oh well TECHNICALLY it doesn't contain spike proteins, it just contains substances that tell your body to make spike proteins".

You can easily shoot down this person's bullshit without resorting to that kind of crap.

it seems like an important distinction. maybe the condescending tone could change though.

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Trumble posted...

Like, dude, come on. This is the kind of gotcha that alt-righters and similar would use - "oh well TECHNICALLY it doesn't contain spike proteins, it just contains substances that tell your body to make spike proteins".

You can easily shoot down this person's bullshit without resorting to that kind of crap.

Try reading the article first next time, hon. It's not just that the vaccines contain no proteins, there is ZERO evidence that the subunits produced by your body in response to the vaccine pass through the blood brain barrier either.

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