Poll of the Day > Who go Metroid Dread?

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Ogurisama posted...

I now want to see a Fusion remake in the Dread style

I want a Dread remake in the Fusion style

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papercup posted...

So the boss fight after meeting the Chozo guy. I know I can counter his thrust with my melee, but what then? Doesn't seem like my charge beams or missiles do anything when he's stunned.

Having a hard time remember what boss is what.

Tried a few times for the final boss, holy shit this is hard. Only know how to counter one of his attacks right now

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Can Nintendo just make new Metroid games instead of releasing remakes for two decades please jfc

I don't want to be stuck in Star Fox hell

Super Metroid is basically a remake of Metroid 1 anyway and they still did it again

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Ogurisama posted...

Having a hard time remember what boss is what.

Tried a few times for the final boss, holy shit this is hard. Only know how to counter one of his attacks right now

Robot Chozo Warrior. I looked it up, I was doing the fight correctly, it's just it doesn't feel like missiles or charge shots do anything but apparently they do. So I'll try the fight again in an hour or so.

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Blighboy posted...

new Metroid games

Uhh

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Metalsonic66 posted...

Uhh

ikr I can't tell if he's joking or unaware

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It's bligh so the former

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Oh shit, its X Parasites! We Metroid Fusion now boys!

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I did, although I was pretty busy this weekend and didn't get too much time to play. Also I was juggling that with Nickelodeon All Stars Brawl, which I got on the same day.
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Not a big fan of it so far. They really ruined the exploration aspect. They're either blocking off routes behind you to prevent backtracking, or forcing you to rush through areas because of the EMMI's. It feels a bit too linear. They made a nice big map, but force you to play through it how they want.

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Dikitain posted...

Gravity Suit

I just got my 100%, some of the Shinespark puzzles were annoying, but not nearly as bad as in Zero Mission or Fusion. Now I just have to get my "under X hours" ending and Hard Mode.

Ahh yeah I went out of order then. Didn't affect much but I got the cross bomb after the space jump

Some sequence breaking is possible, such as getting the Grapple Beam or Gravity Suit early, and it's possible to do an any% speed run in under 1:50. However, on the scale of linearity from Fusion to Zero Mission, Dread is just left of Super. If you don't sequence break, those limitations against backtracking or to exploring at your own pace (because of EMMI pursuits) will be felt.


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Just beat the game. It was good. I liked the ending but fuck that final boss

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Interesting I found Power Bombs before I actually had the ability to use Power Bombs, and it just told me "you don't have the ability to use this yet."

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Also I believe I have every ability and weapon now, so I'm going back to get the rest of the upgrades. There are items I have no idea how to get. I see what I need to do, but how to actually do it I don't know. Like an energy quarter in western Ferenia where I have to use shinespark to get it, but I can't see any way to build up said shinespark, or carry it over from another close by room. So I must be missing something.

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papercup posted...

Also I believe I have every ability and weapon now, so I'm going back to get the rest of the upgrades. There are items I have no idea how to get. I see what I need to do, but how to actually do it I don't know. Like an energy quarter in western Ferenia where I have to use shinespark to get it, but I can't see any way to build up said shinespark, or carry it over from another close by room. So I must be missing something.

I don't know the exact one you are talking about, but you can wall jump and slide while boosting, without needing to store a shine. Also, while in shine you can morphball, spin jump, and slopes reset your boost (just like in Zero Mission). Once you know all that, you can figure out pretty much all of the shinespark puzzles.

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oh I was trying to slope reset a boost and it wasnt working. So maybe I was doing it wrong.

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78% completion

Area breakdown:
Artaria 89%
Cataris 38%
Dairon 85%
Burenia 88%
Ghavoran 100%
Elun 100%
Ferenia 71%
Hanubia 33%

Looking at some of these maps I just dont see where Im missing anything. I know if theres a secret somewhere the area around it pulses on the map.

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My copy finally arrived today so I can finally play

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Is the Cataris theme a remix of Parasite Queen?

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Entity13 posted...

However, on the scale of linearity from Fusion to Zero Mission, Dread is just left of Super.

Are you saying Zero Mission is the least linear? Because lol no

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Zareth posted...

Are you saying Zero Mission is the least linear? Because lol no

I think she's saying Fusion is the most linear and Zero Mission is the least

Edit: Oh wait that's what you said lol. Which one is the least linear, Super Metroid?

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How would you rate Dread compared to other 3D metroidvanias (of which there are... ........ like 3?)


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My copy finally arrived. It came with a set of pins. Now waiting for my Switch to download a system update.

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I made it to the fifth zone. Four E.M.M.I. units down. Enjoying the game, but I die frequently.

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SilentSeph posted...

Edit: Oh wait that's what you said lol. Which one is the least linear, Super Metroid?

Well it's definitely not Zero Mission. The game tells you where to go after every upgrade you get, and like 50% of the optional items you can't even get until the very end of the game.

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Zareth posted...

Well it's definitely not Zero Mission. The game tells you where to go after every upgrade you get, and like 50% of the optional items you can't even get until the very end of the game.

Telling you where to go doesn't actually affect how linear the game is. It's a very open game that appears extremely linear if you follow the steps laid out for you.

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Zareth posted...

Well it's definitely not Zero Mission. The game tells you where to go after every upgrade you get, and like 50% of the optional items you can't even get until the very end of the game.

Zero Mission has sequence breaks built in. You can get the Varia Suit without leaving Brinstar. You can kill Kraid without setting foot in Norfair. You can kill Ridley before Kraid. You CAN just follow the statues, but you definitely don't have to.

This just in, Skyrim is a very linear game because the main mission tells you where to go.

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Ogurisama posted...

This just in, Skyrim is a very linear game because the main mission tells you where to go.

Well, ya.

I mean, many of the missions have 2 or 3 completion criteria... but it is pretty rigid.

It's not like Fallout 3 where you can legit skip 1/2 the game with exploration and a further 1/4 with speech checks

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Lynyrd_Skynyrd posted...

Zero Mission has sequence breaks built in. You can get the Varia Suit without leaving Brinstar. You can kill Kraid without setting foot in Norfair. You can kill Ridley before Kraid. You CAN just follow the statues, but you definitely don't have to.

Right. Those objective markers are suggestions as to where to go, not the end of a railroaded path like in Fusion, Other M, or Prime 3. You can explore and find items at your leisure, and use tricks, even non-glitch ones, to get stuff before you're "meant" to, like in Super or Dread.

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For some reason, I keep reading the topic title as "Why go Metroid Dread'...

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Johnny Eagle posted...

For some reason, I keep reading the topic title as "Why go Metroid Dread'...

Well I missed the t in got

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Why got?

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Beat it 100%! Edit: final time: 9:38:26

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I really wanna get it but am pretty strapped for cash until some school grants come in. I only just found out about AM2R, so I'm scratching my itch with that for now. I'm so happy it actually has good custom control options. I can use my SNS30pro+ and actually have the A + B buttons mapped properly and graphically represented properly on screen. Also have a Zero Mission cart I can rip.

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ReturnOfFa posted...

I really wanna get it but am pretty strapped for cash until some school grants come in. I only just found out about AM2R, so I'm scratching my itch with that for now. I'm so happy it actually has good custom control options. I can use my SNS30pro+ and actually have the A + B buttons mapped properly and graphically represented properly on screen. Also have a Zero Mission cart I can rip.

That one's my favorite. Terrific game

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I haven't played a Metroid game or owned a Nintendo console since the N64 and if I remember correctly, there was no Metroid game released on N64.

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I wasn't crazy about AM2R. I think I just don't like Metroid 2 in general. Any version of it I've idk just doesn't do it for me. Also when I get to the end of AM2R it kept breaking in spectacular ways. I had to redo the final sections of the game multiple times because things kept breaking like geometry detection, or the camera would get stuck, or the final boss just wasn't killable even though I knew I was doing the fight right. And this was the initial release too, the version everyone says to play.

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Have you played Prime 2D? it's an exceptional demo

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My Special Edition finally arrived yesterday.
Man, it's so good so far.

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papercup posted...

I wasn't crazy about AM2R. I think I just don't like Metroid 2 in general. Any version of it I've idk just doesn't do it for me. Also when I get to the end of AM2R it kept breaking in spectacular ways. I had to redo the final sections of the game multiple times because things kept breaking like geometry detection, or the camera would get stuck, or the final boss just wasn't killable even though I knew I was doing the fight right. And this was the initial release too, the version everyone says to play.

That is weird. You might be the first person I've heard of who's experienced this issue. o_O

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Entity13 posted...

That is weird. You might be the first person I've heard of who's experienced this issue. o_O

Yeah everyone always tells me they never had any problems with the game breaking, and it was seriously an hour of having to redo the final sections until I got a run that didn't break too much

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papercup posted...

Yeah everyone always tells me they never had any problems with the game breaking, and it was seriously an hour of having to redo the final sections until I got a run that didn't break too much

It reminds me of when Auric kept having issues with Byakko Ex during the cyclone dodging phase, and no one else in our group would be crashing to the one thing. Computers, dude. They're weird.

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papercup posted...

I wasn't crazy about AM2R. I think I just don't like Metroid 2 in general. Any version of it I've idk just doesn't do it for me

The fundamental issue with Metroid 2 is you're fighting the same boss repeatedly, as the core of the game. It's a questionable design decision from the Gameboy classic, that can't really be removed without changing the whole nature of the game.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7noxyKs4mc8
this guy designed Twisted Metal and God of War

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I saw that, guy seems like a huge tool

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Jaffe lost his mind after Twisted Metal (PS3) and Drawn to Death were huge bombs

Also holy shit he looks like he aged 30 years since GoW1 when it's only been 16

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I consider myself an expert in level design, if not game design... but I haven't started dread yet...

Should I watch the video to pre-emptively complain or no?

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