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Solar_Crimson 10/10/21 6:49:33 PM #1:	I mean, stuff aside from Marvel and DC Comics. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:958904352] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>I mean, stuff aside from Marvel and DC Comics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ratchetrockon 10/10/21 6:49:58 PM #2:	not sure. i found a few to be pretty cool like black hole!!!!! wacky af --- I'm a Taurus I like collecting headphones and iems. My fave game of all time is DMC 3 SE on PC w/ style switch mod. IMO it the best button masher on earth <cite>Ratchetrockon posted [p:958904365] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>not sure. i found a few to be pretty cool like black hole!!!!! wacky af </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 10/10/21 6:50:01 PM #3:	Which one tends to have hotter chicks? --- As you change your Trumble, the Trumble on all your posts will be updated to your new Trumble. <cite>Trumble posted [p:958904368] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>Which one tends to have hotter chicks? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 10/10/21 6:51:06 PM #4:	You mean those story games that use footage of real people? Probably because they use footage of real people and I don't care about that. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:958904398] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>You mean those story games that use footage of real people? Probably because they use footage of real people and I don't care about that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorkhaj 10/10/21 6:51:45 PM #5:	DeadBankerDream posted... You mean those story games that use footage of real people? Probably because they use footage of real people and I don't care about that. . --- https://i.imgflip.com/5psdae.jpg The artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as the artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Lorkhaj posted [p:958904423] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted... </cite> <quote>You mean those story games that use footage of real people? Probably because they use footage of real people and I don't care about that.</quote>. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ratchetrockon 10/10/21 6:51:46 PM #6:	oh just realized that Black Hole reminds me of Junji Ito's work a lil bit --- I'm a Taurus I like collecting headphones and iems. My fave game of all time is DMC 3 SE on PC w/ style switch mod. IMO it the best button masher on earth <cite>Ratchetrockon posted [p:958904424] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>oh just realized that Black Hole reminds me of Junji Ito's work a lil bit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManaYuka 10/10/21 6:52:03 PM #7:	People are tired of reboots, different universes' etc making it hard to follow. Manga tend to finish. They have a beginning, a middle, and an ending. --- SE Renaissance- 5 good upcoming SE games, not since the 90's has this happened~ FFXVI, Forspoken, SOP-FF Origin, DQXII, and FFVIIR Part 2. <cite>ManaYuka posted [p:958904432] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>People are tired of reboots, different universes' etc making it hard to follow. Manga tend to finish. They have a beginning, a middle, and an ending. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ratchetrockon 10/10/21 6:52:27 PM #8:	ManaYuka posted... People are tired of reboots, different universes' etc making it hard to follow. Manga tend to finish. They have a beginning, a middle, and an ending. dude not all comics are super hero shit with multiple universes --- I'm a Taurus I like collecting headphones and iems. My fave game of all time is DMC 3 SE on PC w/ style switch mod. IMO it the best button masher on earth <cite>Ratchetrockon posted [p:958904448] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>ManaYuka posted... </cite> <quote>People are tired of reboots, different universes' etc making it hard to follow. Manga tend to finish. They have a beginning, a middle, and an ending.</quote> dude not all comics are super hero shit with multiple universes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 10/10/21 6:53:39 PM #9:	Lorkhaj posted... . I read the topic title as 'visual novels', shut up. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:958904498] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>Lorkhaj posted... </cite> <quote>.</quote>I read the topic title as 'visual novels', shut up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadowplay 10/10/21 6:53:53 PM #10:	ManaYuka posted... People are tired of reboots, different universes' etc making it hard to follow. Manga tend to finish. They have a beginning, a middle, and an ending. This is not why it is. The reason is that the comic book industry has allowed itself to be sequestered into mom and pop comic shops instead of having the titles readily available in a big store and at a reasonable price. --- I make a topic in Final Fantasy 12 to ask if Tifa! They said no Tifa. Hardness gone!-gandob <cite>Shadowplay posted [p:958904509] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>ManaYuka posted... </cite> <quote>People are tired of reboots, different universes' etc making it hard to follow. Manga tend to finish. They have a beginning, a middle, and an ending.</quote>This is not why it is. The reason is that the comic book industry has allowed itself to be sequestered into mom and pop comic shops instead of having the titles readily available in a big store and at a reasonable price. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 10/10/21 6:54:41 PM #11:	ManaYuka posted... People are tired of reboots, different universes' etc making it hard to follow. Manga tend to finish. They have a beginning, a middle, and an ending. I'm not talking about Marvel/DC superhero stuff. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:958904535] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>ManaYuka posted... </cite> <quote>People are tired of reboots, different universes' etc making it hard to follow. Manga tend to finish. They have a beginning, a middle, and an ending.</quote>I'm not talking about Marvel/DC superhero stuff. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ratchetrockon 10/10/21 6:55:39 PM #12:	although for a supe comic that has beginning and end I guess Invincible counts. You can pretty much read it from beginning to end. Mark does end up in some other comics like the Guardians of the Globe iirc but isn't needed. Kinda filler stuff --- I'm a Taurus I like collecting headphones and iems. My fave game of all time is DMC 3 SE on PC w/ style switch mod. IMO it the best button masher on earth <cite>Ratchetrockon posted [p:958904561] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>although for a supe comic that has beginning and end I guess Invincible counts. You can pretty much read it from beginning to end. Mark does end up in some other comics like the Guardians of the Globe iirc but isn't needed. Kinda filler stuff </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PerseusRad 10/10/21 6:56:09 PM #13:	Because their promotion is kinda poor, I suppose? Theres also the conception that you cant really start a comic from issue 1. You dont know whats canon, or if it all is. There are too many crossovers, and comics outright point to others to read, like imagine Wolverine #13 saying To know more about these random heroes, read Iron Man #34. Its tedious. It feels like you cant just break in, thats why I imagine they get less attention. This is ignoring the quality of writing or art of comics, which may also be a problem to many. The way I spoke was mostly about superhero stuff, but as for others, we get back to the original point. Theres a lack of promotion, what would cause someone in the U.S. to find out about and read Maus? The superhero stuff being so prevalent and powerful, relatively, makes other interesting stuff less able to be found. --- https://imgur.com/EUkIomS <cite>PerseusRad posted [p:958904579] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>Because their promotion is kinda poor, I suppose? Theres also the conception that you cant really start a comic from issue 1. You dont know whats canon, or if it all is. There are too many crossovers, and comics outright point to others to read, like imagine Wolverine #13 saying To know more about these random heroes, read Iron Man #34. Its tedious. It feels like you cant just break in, thats why I imagine they get less attention. This is ignoring the quality of writing or art of comics, which may also be a problem to many. The way I spoke was mostly about superhero stuff, but as for others, we get back to the original point. Theres a lack of promotion, what would cause someone in the U.S. to find out about and read Maus? The superhero stuff being so prevalent and powerful, relatively, makes other interesting stuff less able to be found. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame Zero 10/10/21 6:56:55 PM #14:	Solar_Crimson posted... I'm not talking about Marvel/DC superhero stuff. You mean more indie stuff? Because that should already answer your question. --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame Zero posted [p:958904611] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not talking about Marvel/DC superhero stuff.</quote>You mean more indie stuff? Because that should already answer your question. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 10/10/21 7:07:31 PM #15:	Hayame Zero posted... You mean more indie stuff? Because that should already answer your question. Not necessarily indie. I mean, a lot of manga is pretty niche as well, but you still see people talking about them and posting new chapters online to discuss. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:958904962] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>Hayame Zero posted... </cite> <quote>You mean more indie stuff? Because that should already answer your question.</quote>Not necessarily indie. I mean, a lot of manga is pretty niche as well, but you still see people talking about them and posting new chapters online to discuss. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ratchetrockon 10/10/21 7:11:22 PM #16:	tbf i think part of the appeal of manga are the perverted tropes. i can understand why a lot of people are into them more than graphic novels that don't have them as often. i do prefer manga over graphic novels overall --- I'm a Taurus I like collecting headphones and iems. My fave game of all time is DMC 3 SE on PC w/ style switch mod. IMO it the best button masher on earth <cite>Ratchetrockon posted [p:958905088] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>tbf i think part of the appeal of manga are the perverted tropes. i can understand why a lot of people are into them more than graphic novels that don't have them as often. i do prefer manga over graphic novels overall </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pfh1001 10/10/21 7:13:32 PM #17:	Trumble posted... Which one tends to have hotter chicks? This. From what I've seen a lot of US indie stuff tends to not have art styles that are as blatantly appealing as most manga. <cite>pfh1001 posted [p:958905161] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted...</cite> <quote>Which one tends to have hotter chicks?</quote> This. From what I've seen a lot of US indie stuff tends to not have art styles that are as blatantly appealing as most manga.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 10/10/21 7:15:23 PM #18:	I'm just gonna assume this is not release timing --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:958905218] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>I'm just gonna assume this is not release timing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManaYuka 10/10/21 7:25:40 PM #19:	Solar_Crimson posted... I'm not talking about Marvel/DC superhero stuff. Oh, thought you were talking about Manga Sales compared to US Comic Books, these discussions tend to go that way, and Manga just is kicking ass compared to US Comic Books. --- SE Renaissance- 5 good upcoming SE games, not since the 90's has this happened~ FFXVI, Forspoken, SOP-FF Origin, DQXII, and FFVIIR Part 2. <cite>ManaYuka posted [p:958905528] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not talking about Marvel/DC superhero stuff.</quote> Oh, thought you were talking about Manga Sales compared to US Comic Books, these discussions tend to go that way, and Manga just is kicking ass compared to US Comic Books. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ratchetrockon 10/10/21 7:27:41 PM #20:	ManaYuka posted... Oh, thought you were talking about Manga Sales compared to US Comic Books, these discussions tend to go that way, and Manga just is kicking ass compared to US Comic Books. idk man i find some graphic novels pretty good even compared to manga. popularity doesn't always imply good quality. hell a lot of my fave mangas aren't even that popular. like "Arigatou". --- I'm a Taurus I like collecting headphones and iems. My fave game of all time is DMC 3 SE on PC w/ style switch mod. IMO it the best button masher on earth <cite>Ratchetrockon posted [p:958905589] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>ManaYuka posted... </cite> <quote>Oh, thought you were talking about Manga Sales compared to US Comic Books, these discussions tend to go that way, and Manga just is kicking ass compared to US Comic Books.</quote> idk man i find some graphic novels pretty good even compared to manga. popularity doesn't always imply good quality. hell a lot of my fave mangas aren't even that popular. like "Arigatou". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 10/10/21 7:28:53 PM #21:	I think it's part of a greater problem in the west. We'll watch an anime where a sword-wielding skateboarder and his talking cat sidekick take on an army of demon robots, but we look at western comics and argue that we like them for the gritty implications and not the more imaginative material. When it comes to science fiction and fantasy, I think we like foreign properties more that domestic ones because it allows us to project the enjoyment of that content onto other cultures instead of admitting we're into it ourselves. It's like the equivalent of someone saying, "My best friend Bobby is a total nerd." If their interests make them a nerd, and you share the same interests, what does that make you? <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:958905623] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>I think it's part of a greater problem in the west. We'll watch an anime where a sword-wielding skateboarder and his talking cat sidekick take on an army of demon robots, but we look at western comics and argue that we like them for the gritty implications and not the more imaginative material. When it comes to science fiction and fantasy, I think we like foreign properties more that domestic ones because it allows us to project the enjoyment of that content onto other cultures instead of admitting we're into it ourselves. It's like the equivalent of someone saying, "My best friend Bobby is a total nerd." If their interests make them a nerd, and you share the same interests, what does that make you? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChocoboMogALT 10/10/21 7:30:59 PM #22:	Didn't you make this topic before? --- "We live in a country Hasire.." ~ yosouf06 REVOLVER STAKE! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v717/ChocoboMog123/AltEisenRChocoboMog.png <cite>ChocoboMogALT posted [p:958905686] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>Didn't you make this topic before? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BloodMoon7 10/10/21 7:35:48 PM #23:	Cause they suck. --- My maid will hear about this. <cite>BloodMoon7 posted [p:958905833] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>Cause they suck. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 10/10/21 7:35:58 PM #24:	ChocoboMogALT posted... Didn't you make this topic before? No. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:958905838] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>ChocoboMogALT posted... </cite> <quote>Didn't you make this topic before?</quote>No. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bloodyarts 10/10/21 7:43:47 PM #25:	I guess it depends on what outlets I frequent, but I hardly ever see manga talked about on the net except here, for the most part. The western comic sites I visit contain way less articles about manga. Even my real life friends don't talk about manga, at all. We just discuss comics, so this topic is the other way around for us. <cite>bloodyarts posted [p:958906087] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>I guess it depends on what outlets I frequent, but I hardly ever see manga talked about on the net except here, for the most part. The western comic sites I visit contain way less articles about manga. Even my real life friends don't talk about manga, at all. We just discuss comics, so this topic is the other way around for us. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NinjaWarrior455 10/10/21 8:16:09 PM #27:	Western comics/graphic novels aren't promoted in the west like manga is in Japan. Plus a lot of manga will be in weekly or monthly serializations with a bunch of other titles so you can pick up a huge book that'll have 10-20 different works for about $5. Compare that to the west where all titles are sold independent of each other with no real consistent release schedule and it's hard to just stumble upon different titles that you might otherwise not have heard of. --- Super Bowl 52 Champions!!!! http://myanimelist.net/animelist/NinjaWarrior457 <cite>NinjaWarrior455 posted [p:958907056] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>Western comics/graphic novels aren't promoted in the west like manga is in Japan. Plus a lot of manga will be in weekly or monthly serializations with a bunch of other titles so you can pick up a huge book that'll have 10-20 different works for about $5. Compare that to the west where all titles are sold independent of each other with no real consistent release schedule and it's hard to just stumble upon different titles that you might otherwise not have heard of. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skermac 10/10/21 8:17:40 PM #28:	Because they arent as good as manga --- To the edge of the universe and back, endure and survive <cite>skermac posted [p:958907111] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>Because they arent as good as manga </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ratchetrockon 10/10/21 8:19:41 PM #29:	skermac posted... Because they arent as good as manga no some are better than most manga --- I'm a Taurus I like collecting headphones and iems. My fave game of all time is DMC 3 SE on PC w/ style switch mod. IMO it the best button masher on earth <cite>Ratchetrockon posted [p:958907169] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>skermac posted... </cite> <quote>Because they arent as good as manga</quote>no some are better than most manga </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 10/10/21 8:24:57 PM #30:	NinjaWarrior455 posted... Western comics/graphic novels aren't promoted in the west like manga is in Japan. Plus a lot of manga will be in weekly or monthly serializations with a bunch of other titles so you can pick up a huge book that'll have 10-20 different works for about $5. Compare that to the west where all titles are sold independent of each other with no real consistent release schedule and it's hard to just stumble upon different titles that you might otherwise not have heard of. This definitely makes the most sense, and it's also a bit sad with all the Western artists or aspiring artists who will likely never get their works off the ground because they just don't get much attention to begin with. Plus, I guess there's also the stigma of comics in general in the West thanks to Marvel/DC. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:958907355] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>NinjaWarrior455 posted... </cite> <quote>Western comics/graphic novels aren't promoted in the west like manga is in Japan. Plus a lot of manga will be in weekly or monthly serializations with a bunch of other titles so you can pick up a huge book that'll have 10-20 different works for about $5. Compare that to the west where all titles are sold independent of each other with no real consistent release schedule and it's hard to just stumble upon different titles that you might otherwise not have heard of.</quote>This definitely makes the most sense, and it's also a bit sad with all the Western artists or aspiring artists who will likely never get their works off the ground because they just don't get much attention to begin with. Plus, I guess there's also the stigma of comics in general in the West thanks to Marvel/DC. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 10/10/21 8:28:28 PM #31:	Scoob and Shag can't even exist as a legal entity. --- Hard times (happiest days of my life) hard times gone by <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:958907458] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>Scoob and Shag can't even exist as a legal entity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 10/10/21 8:32:45 PM #32:	Graphic novels aren't really the same thing as manga. A western graphic novel in most cases of released either all at once or in only a very short run usually starting and finishing in a year or less and then later compiled. Manga is more similar to the western TPBs. Funny as it sounds Graphic novels have more in common with doujinshi than manga. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:958907588] in Why do wes... [t:79704579]...</cite> <quote>Graphic novels aren't really the same thing as manga. A western graphic novel in most cases of released either all at once or in only a very short run usually starting and finishing in a year or less and then later compiled. Manga is more similar to the western TPBs. Funny as it sounds Graphic novels have more in common with doujinshi than manga. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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