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UnfairRepresent
10/15/21 4:38:11 AM
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Greta Thunberg is open to meeting with Joe Biden at the United Nations climate summit in Glasgow, though the young Swedish activist does not expect much from either the US leader or the make-or-break summit that runs from 31 October to 12 November.

In an interview with the global media collaboration Covering Climate Now, Thunberg expressed surprise at the idea that the US president, or any world leader, might want to sit down with her at Cop26, but said she was open to the possibility, if asked. I guess that will depend on the situation, she said. I dont see why these people want to meet with me, but yeah.

A week before she entertained the question about whether she would meet with Biden, Thunberg had accused the US president and other world leaders of offering pretty words but no real action on climate, only blah blah blah, in a speech to the Youth4Climate summit. That 28 September clip went viral. In the CCNow interview, conducted by NBC News, Reuters and the Nation, she complained that youth climate activists are not being taken seriously by world leaders. Theyre just saying, We listen to you, and then they applaud us, and then they go on just like before.

The suggestion that Biden has not only spoken strongly about the climate crisis but also is trying to pass the most ambitious climate legislation in US history does not impress Thunberg. The climate measures in the Democrats spending plan now under ferocious negotiation in Washington have been so much watered down by lobbyists, she said, so we should not pretend that this would be a solution to the climate crisis. Bidens political problem that as president in a democracy, he shares power with a legislative body where he faces unanimous Republican opposition that is determined to block his agenda does not interest her. She judges by results only: Emissions are still going up.

The notion of meeting with the president of the worlds other climate change superpower, Xi Jinping of China, seemed even more distant to Thunberg than a meeting with Biden. Calling Xi a leader of a dictatorship, she nevertheless did not rule out the idea. She stressed, however, that democracy is the only solution to the climate crisis, since the only thing that could get us out of this situation is massive public pressure.

Wearing a grey hoodie and speaking from her kitchen table in Stockholm, Thunberg said that she will attend Novembers Cop26 despite the summits potential for empty talk and greenwashing, because the gathering of thousands of government officials, activists, scientists and journalists is an opportunity to show that we are in an emergency, and we are going to try to mobilize people around this.

In such an emergency as we are in right now, everyone needs to take their moral responsibility, at least I think so, and use whatever power they have, whatever platform they have, to try to influence and push in the right direction, to make a change, she said. I think thats our duty as human beings.

Making Cop26 a success, Thunberg suggested, requires unflinching honesty about the gap between what we are saying and what we are actually doing Thats not what we are doing now. We are trying to find concrete, small solutions that are symbolic in order to make it seem like we are doing something, without actually confronting the problem at all. We are still not counting all the emissions when we are announcing targets. We are still using creative accounting when it comes to emissions cuts, and so on. As long as thats the case, we will not get very far.

Thunberg endorsed the many lawsuits demanding compensation from fossil fuel companies for their decades of lying about climate change and the resulting damage and suffering, especially in frontline communities. I think that these people need to be held accountable for all the damage that they have caused especially for the people whose communities and whose health and livelihoods have been devastated by the actions of these companies, she said. I think thats the bare minimum to ask for.

The activist also called out the worlds media, which she said have largely failed to communicate the emergency that we are in. She noted that there are many, many news organizations and journalists that are trying to do more, and she called the media one of my biggest sources of hope right now. Citing the coronavirus, she said that when the media decided to treat this pandemic as an emergency, that changed social norms overnight. If the media decided, with all the resources that they have, to use their platform they could reach countless people in no time, and that could have huge consequences, positive consequences.

Thunbergs core message has been consistent from the time she first emerged on the world stage with a fiery denunciation of global elites at the World Economic Forum in Davos in January 2019: listen to the science and do what it requires; the science says our planetary house is on fire, and world leaders and everyone else should act like it.

The fact that world leaders, by her own account, are not doing what she and millions of activists are demanding has not led her and other movement leaders to consider new strategies and tactics, at least not yet. Right now, we are just repeating the same message, like a broken record, she said. And we are going out on the streets because you need to repeat the same message until people get it. I guess thats the only option that we have. If we find other ways of doing it in the future that work better, then maybe we will shift.

Thunberg emphasized that she sees many, many bright spots in the climate emergency, citing the millions of people around the world who are taking action. When Im taking action, I dont feel like I am helpless and that things are hopeless, because then I feel like Im doing everything I can, she said. And that gives me very much hope, especially to see all the other people all around the world, the activists, who are taking action and who are fighting for their present and for their future.

Asked where she sees herself, and humanity, 10 years from now, Greta Thunberg smiled and said, I have no idea."

Full Article: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/12/greta-thunberg-cop26-interview


Sounds like she's met him before

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nfearurspecimn
10/15/21 4:39:54 AM
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Lol low expectations that about sums up Biden's presidency so far.

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Wii_Shaker
10/15/21 4:41:47 AM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
Lol low expectations that about sums up Biden's presidency so far.
This.

Wish he would do something about the child refugees stuck in the US without any plan. It's like Guantanamo Jr. on our border.

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UnfairRepresent
10/15/21 4:42:52 AM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
Lol low expectations that about sums up Biden's presidency so far.
lol yup

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ssjevot
10/15/21 4:45:56 AM
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I mean what could she expect outside a photo op, some meaningless platitudes and vague promises? Low expectations is the only realistic thing to have.

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Crazyman93
10/15/21 4:46:31 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
though the young Swedish activist does not expect much from either the US leader
I don't expect much Biden either. Really I'm not sure the senile old man gets out of bed on his own.

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Can't run. Not a natural born American Citizen. Not even sure she has American citizenship. Are you a Complete_Id0it alt?

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Crazyman93
10/15/21 4:53:14 AM
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I'm fully aware of the rules, I just don't care.
Ah, you're a politician.

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nfearurspecimn
10/15/21 4:54:19 AM
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tell crazyman93 to unblock me it's annoy to click on this topic only for it to go to the top of the page

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10/15/21 4:56:55 AM
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Flauros
10/15/21 5:03:10 AM
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She should go to india or the middle east and speak her mind. To the leaders directly and in the streets!

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Shablagoo
10/15/21 5:07:38 AM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
This.

Wish he would do something about the child refugees stuck in the US without any plan. It's like Guantanamo Jr. on our border.

Speaking of which, climate change is going to create many, many, many refugees in the coming decades.

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UnfairRepresent
10/15/21 5:15:44 AM
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Flauros posted...
She should go to india or the middle east and speak her mind. To the leaders directly and in the streets!
If she did that she would be arrested and put in prison

If it wasn't for her western fame she'd risk being killed.

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Ratchetrockon
10/15/21 5:44:43 AM
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Damn Greta

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Hoodroar
10/15/21 5:56:16 AM
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There is no actual point in them meeting with an 18 year old on the matter. It'd just be a PR stunt. They have climate advisors to listen to if they actually want to take matters seriously.

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UnfairRepresent
10/15/21 6:01:06 AM
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Hoodroar posted...
There is no actual point in them meeting with an 18 year old on the matter. It'd just be a PR stunt. They have climate advisors to listen to if they actually want to take matters seriously.
Yeah because listening to guys in suits has done wonders for the enviroment for the past century.

It's really solely been the blowback from the public that has pushed forward all climate change awareness and policies.

There's a reason why China is the worst offender and simutaniously will not allow the public to protest the government.

Like it or not the reality is that 18 year old girl could make more of a difference than anyone else at the conference solely because if something dramatic happens people will actually pay attention to her.

Rather than "We met up and agreed to cut emissions by 27% before 2065." no actual change kicking the can

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Wii_Shaker
10/15/21 6:02:40 AM
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Shablagoo posted...
Speaking of which, climate change is going to create many, many, many refugees in the coming decades.
True dat playa.

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Flauros
10/15/21 6:14:54 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
If she did that she would be arrested and put in prison

If it wasn't for her western fame she'd risk being killed.
What kind of activist isnt willing to go to jail for their beliefs?

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UnfairRepresent
10/15/21 6:16:56 AM
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Flauros posted...
What kind of activist isnt willing to go to jail for their beliefs?
The vast majority of them

Randomly being jailed in a foreign country will accomplish nothing. Activism can change laws and minds and attitudes.

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Zeus
10/15/21 6:22:56 AM
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Can't be lower than anybody's expectations from meeting with Greta, considering she brings absolutely fucking nothing to the table and is a waste of everybody's time.

nfearurspecimn posted...
Lol low expectations that about sums up Biden's presidency so far.

Tough but fair.

UnfairRepresent posted...
Yeah because listening to guys in suits has done wonders for the enviroment for the past century.

It's really solely been the blowback from the public that has pushed forward all climate change awareness and policies.

There's a reason why China is the worst offender and simutaniously will not allow the public to protest the government.

Like it or not the reality is that 18 year old girl could make more of a difference than anyone else at the conference solely because if something dramatic happens people will actually pay attention to her.

Rather than "We met up and agreed to cut emissions by 27% before 2065." no actual change kicking the can

Oh lawdy... And you actually believe that? jfc. The world has been laughing off jokes like Greta for hundreds of years, usually with no more than a smile and a nod, although she isn't worth either one of those.

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Flauros
10/15/21 6:23:50 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
The vast majority of them
Name 1

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Flauros
10/15/21 6:27:36 AM
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10/15/21 6:28:02 AM
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UnfairRepresent
10/15/21 6:35:56 AM
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Zeus posted...


Oh lawdy... And you actually believe that? jfc. The world has been laughing off jokes like Greta for hundreds of years, usually with no more than a smile and a nod, although she isn't worth either one of those.
And yet here you are talking about her.

Again.

In a news article about whether or not she will deem speaking to the Leader of the Free World.

You're confusing your own personal resentment towards women and youth with the reality of publicity.

Politicans and businsessmen will not listen to scientists and never have if the scientists have a negative influence on their bottom line.

If public outcry causes being enviromental to have a positive influence on that bottom line, they flip.

And that only occurs via things that get attention.

As we speak Republicans still openly deny that man made climate change is even a thing. China outright bans criticism of the government. And you're claiming it's not public outcry but scientists in suits at conferences that will change the world? Even though they never have before?


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St0rmFury
10/15/21 7:42:18 AM
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Zeus posted...
Can't be lower than anybody's expectations from meeting with Greta, considering she brings absolutely fucking nothing to the table and is a waste of everybody's time.

Imagine expecting a teenager to do something about climate change. What's wrong with you?
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SoggyBottomBoy
10/15/21 7:44:32 AM
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Im pretty sure most people would have pretty low expectations meeting her. Shes a clown. Why is she in the news again?

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SoggyBottomBoy
10/15/21 7:45:16 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
Imagine expecting a teenager to do something about climate change. What's wrong with you?
Her fans seem to think shes going to do it singlehandedly and that scientists dont matter. So pick a lane.

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Hoodroar
10/15/21 7:56:13 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Yeah because listening to guys in suits has done wonders for the enviroment for the past century.
I said climate advisors, not clowns trying to make money.

UnfairRepresent posted...
Like it or not the reality is that 18 year old girl could make more of a difference than anyone else at the conference solely because if something dramatic happens people will actually pay attention to her.
"I dont see why these people want to meet with me"

She herself disagrees. Her point was always that politicians should be factoring the warnings of actual professional scientists into climate policy. She helps rally pressure to do so from the public end. Private meetings do nothing, they'd just result in more of the platitudes she's criticizing, the people whose advice she wants followed are already hired.

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UnfairRepresent
10/15/21 8:45:40 AM
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Hoodroar posted...
"I dont see why these people want to meet with me"

She herself disagrees. Her point was always that politicians should be factoring the warnings of actual professional scientists into climate policy. She helps rally pressure to do so from the public end. Private meetings do nothing, they'd just result in more of the platitudes she's criticizing, the people whose advice she wants followed are already hired.
That completely agrees with what I just said

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St0rmFury
10/15/21 10:23:26 AM
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SoggyBottomBoy posted...
Her fans seem to think shes going to do it singlehandedly and that scientists dont matter. So pick a lane.
Those people are as stupid as her haters.

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Returning_CEmen
10/15/21 10:25:23 AM
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Why is she popular again?
Has she done anything special besides talk?

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10/15/21 10:26:40 AM
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UnfairRepresent
10/15/21 10:29:50 AM
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Returning_CEmen posted...
Why is she popular again?
Has she done anything special besides talk?
She founded Fridays for Future.

But I'm not sure what you're wanting an activist to do (a teenage one at that) other than talk. She got millions of people all over the world to dicuss climate change, reduce their carbon footprint and take their government/businesses to task.

That's talk for sure but successful talk.

And she's popular because she's a voice for enviromentalism which is actually getting traction in this age of general cynical dispassion where most people just accept businsess and government doing whatever they like.

I'm not sure what else you expect her to do really. Break into China with a brain altering device and stick it on Jinping's head?

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Returning_CEmen
10/15/21 10:31:38 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
She founded Fridays for Future.

But I'm not sure what you're wanting an activist to do (a teenage one at that) other than talk. She got millions of people all over the world to dicuss climate change, reduce their carbon footprint and take their government/businesses to task.

That's talk for sure but successful talk.

And she's popular because she's a voice for enviromentalism which is actually getting traction in this age of general cynical dispassion where most people just accept businsess and government doing whatever they like.

I'm not sure what else you expect her to do really. Break into China with a brain altering device and stick it on Jinping's head?
Why are they listening to her and no Al Gore who has been talking about this for 20 years now

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Broseph_Stalin
10/15/21 10:39:06 AM
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I'm really glad a teenager with zero expertise on the matter is "open" to meeting with the leader of the free world.
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UnfairRepresent
10/15/21 10:48:15 AM
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Returning_CEmen posted...
Why are they listening to her and no Al Gore who has been talking about this for 20 years now
Because Al Gore is about as charismatic as a dark blue wet sock and doesn't trigger emotional reactions like this:

Broseph_Stalin posted...
I'm really glad a teenager with zero expertise on the matter is "open" to meeting with the leader of the free world.

The same way Greta does.

She's caught millions of people's attention and the guys who hate "the libs" and/or hate women/kids don't know how to handle it.

With Al Gore you knew from Day 1 he was preaching to the choir and nothing he ever said or did mattered in any way.

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Broseph_Stalin
10/15/21 1:58:51 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
She's caught millions of people's attention

lmao climate change is solved!
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greyfox747
10/15/21 2:03:04 PM
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Its weird how bitter and angry some people get whenever Greta is brought up. Like they think that shes personally wronging them by talking about climate change.
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g980
10/15/21 2:05:42 PM
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I still dont understand greta thunberg

Shes one of those people who is famous for being famous
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ScazarMeltex
10/15/21 2:07:56 PM
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Welcome to being an American kid ;p

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Big_Nabendu
10/15/21 2:10:27 PM
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She looks like she smells like cheese

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