Current Events > How common is it for people to get jobs they are not qualified for?

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If they have the right connections to people who can take them far?

Wife is arguing with me that most people still get jobs because of merit but. I think 90% of the time its all about who you know in the companies. ESPECIALLY the desirable companies that everyone wants to work for.

Hell I wont even be surprised if a person doesnt know anything at all about the industry yet the company will train the right person who gets along with everyone, is friendly, and fits in with the work culture

Thoughts?

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Wife is arguing with me that most people still get jobs because of merit

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I've known people who lie on their resume and say they went to college or even graduated high school when they didn't. Even lie about experience.

Unless it's some super high security job I doubt most employers will check.


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^Doing that makes me wonder how they are able to do the job if they dont have the proper training

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50/50

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My life has been 50/50

My best job I was horribly unqualified for

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At least 50/50. Probably worse than that in some industries.

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Pretty common. Connections are far more important than skill.

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if it's not technical, about 70%. it's all about deception and nepotism.

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Okay, funny story. I did a full on Kramer back in the 90s.

I applied for a job that I didnt get, but I wasnt 100% certain becauseI dont remember now. But I knew the day of orientation and training was set to follow.

So I go to orientation and theyre having trouble finding my name, but said, its okay, just have a seat. A couple days of training pass and Im pulled to the side, Uh..we didnt hire you.

So Im like, Well, Im here now. :). And they responded with, Goodbye. And escorted me out.

They paid me for three days.

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AzNDarkSamurai posted...

Wife is arguing with me that most people still get jobs because of merit

This is absolutely untrue.

I've worked with so many people at all levels who are grossly incompetent and don't deserve their jobs.

^I have as well

Shit I even worked with bosses that were dumb beyond belief

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Didnt you make this exact topic a few weeks ago?

Nepotism happens but isnt as rampant as you think
Some degree of networking is valid and helps weed out the weirdos/liars
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AzNDarkSamurai posted...

^I have as well

Shit I even worked with bosses that were dumb beyond belief

Yeah, some organisations are particularly bad for it. I've worked in a couple where to climb the ladder, you generally needed to move departments. To do this, you'd need a good reference from your line manager, but they'd tend to give the best references to the people they didn't mind losing, for obvious reasons.

It led to a culture of the leadership being the least competent people working there for the most part.

AzNDarkSamurai posted...

Hell I wont even be surprised if a person doesnt know anything at all about the industry yet the company will train the right person who gets along with everyone, is friendly, and fits in with the work culture

Thoughts?

thats how i got my current job. knew the right person and was available at the right time. their ad wanted experience, but i had none in that industry.

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much more common than anyone would hope

and this is globally, too

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I mean, hiring is often based on a resume and an interview. How could anyone pick a qualified person?

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You have a lot of dumb discussions with your wife, bro

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Guerrilla Soldier posted...

much more common than anyone would hope

and this is globally, too

Depressing when you think of it.

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