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Solar_Crimson
11/18/21 10:34:05 AM
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https://www.serebii.net/brilliantdiamondshiningpearl/unobtainable.shtml

I expected there to be no Pokemon after Gen 4 included, but not even the Regional Variants are available. Even the Let's Go games let you get the Alola forms.

Of course, this means that these Switch console remakes--basically the original games with just a 3D coat, really--have less obtainable Pokemon than the last remakes (ORAS) which were released on the 3DS.

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Kaiganeer
11/18/21 10:36:10 AM
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and they will sell millions because the people the games are targeted at and marketed to do not care
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archedsoul
11/18/21 10:39:13 AM
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Lol, Nintendo has just been getting lazier and lazier.

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Solar_Crimson
11/18/21 10:39:33 AM
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archedsoul posted...
Lol, Nintendo has just been getting lazier and lazier.
This is on Game Freak and ILCA, not Nintendo.

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Duncanwii
11/18/21 10:43:42 AM
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It doesn't matter. 493 Pokemon is plenty for a remake.
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Rharyx211
11/18/21 10:44:49 AM
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Kaiganeer posted...
and they will sell millions because the people the games are targeted at and marketed to do not care
This.

But also, they'll sell millions because it's Pokemon and it doesn't matter how many corners they cut or lazy they get.

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Tyranthraxus
11/18/21 10:46:58 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
This is on Game Freak and ILCA, not Nintendo.
Gen 4 remakes were outsourced. Game Freak actually can't be blamed for this one.

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jpenny2
11/18/21 10:49:24 AM
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Pokemon! Gotta catch most of 'em!

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StarDestroyer
11/18/21 10:50:59 AM
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I'll be skipping these games. Game freak just being lazy.
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Duncanwii
11/18/21 10:51:11 AM
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jpenny2 posted...
Pokemon! Gotta catch most of 'em!

You can catch everything available up to Diamond and Pearl. That's appropriate for a remake of Diamond and Pearl. I feel no desire to use Falinx or Toxapex in my Gen 4 game.
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Solar_Crimson
11/18/21 10:53:49 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
You can catch everything available up to Diamond and Pearl. That's appropriate for a remake of Diamond and Pearl. I feel no desire to use Falinx or Toxapex in my Gen 4 game.
Did you feel the same about the past remakes allowing you to get Gen 2/3 Pokemon in FRLG, Gen 3/4 in HGSS, and Gen 4/5/6 in ORAS (with ORAS even having the thing with Hoopa's rings and including all-new Megas including Mega Rayquaza as part of the story)?

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jpenny2
11/18/21 10:55:20 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
You can catch everything available up to Diamond and Pearl. That's appropriate for a remake of Diamond and Pearl. I feel no desire to use Falinx or Toxapex in my Gen 4 game.
Gotta catch everything up until Gen 4!

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gamepimp12
11/18/21 10:55:21 AM
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I mean they said they wherever almost 1:1 copies from the jump . No new Pokmon shouldnt be a surprise

you can argue the games shouldnt of been 1for1 remasterings.

but thats a different convo.

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archedsoul
11/18/21 10:57:12 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
This is on Game Freak and ILCA, not Nintendo.
It's on Nintendo as well since they still have a lot of influence over what they're looking for and approval.

If anything, it should have been $50 at least.

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Duncanwii
11/18/21 10:57:18 AM
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First off, Fire Red/Leaf Green locked non Gen 1 Pokemon to only allow access when the game has been beaten.

Yes Heart Gold/Soul Silver and Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire allowing access to non 1/2/3/4 Pokemon was nice, but it wasnt necessary for the game to be good.
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Solar_Crimson
11/18/21 11:02:56 AM
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Duncanwii posted...
First off, Fire Red/Leaf Green locked non Gen 1 Pokemon to only allow access when the game has been beaten.
Right, but they were still obtainable in the end, unlike here where post-Gen 4 Pokemon are outright not in the game at all.

Duncanwii posted...
Yes Heart Gold/Soul Silver and Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire allowing access to non 1/2/3/4 Pokemon was nice, but it wasnt necessary for the game to be good.
Maybe not, but it also showed how much more effort were put into those games than has been with BDSP, outsourced or not.

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Calwings
11/18/21 11:08:19 AM
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They couldn't even be bothered to include Sylveon despite Eevee being right fucking there. HG/SS and OR/AS at least let you acquire most of the later gen Pokemon that were evolutions/babies of Kanto/Johto/Hoenn Pokemon like Mamoswine or Bonsly.

God, this remake is so lazy.
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PowerOats
11/18/21 11:11:38 AM
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ORAS still the best remake
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Solar_Crimson
11/18/21 11:13:45 AM
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PowerOats posted...
ORAS still the best remake
HGSS, actually.

ORAS still had its own issues.

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Turbam
11/18/21 11:14:20 AM
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PowerOats posted...
ORAS still the best remake
Gonna show this to a buddy and make him mad

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2Pacavelli
11/18/21 11:17:10 AM
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jpenny2 posted...
Pokemon! Gotta catch most of 'em!

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BlueBoy675
11/18/21 11:19:33 AM
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Gotta catch half of the total roster

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IfGodCouldDie
11/18/21 11:21:54 AM
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Kaiganeer posted...
and they will sell millions because the people the games are targeted at and marketed to do not care
Example:

Duncanwii posted...
It doesn't matter. 493 Pokemon is plenty for a remake.


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IfGodCouldDie
11/18/21 11:22:42 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Gen 4 remakes were outsourced. Game Freak actually can't be blamed for this one.
They are the ones that outsourced it, no?

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Tyranthraxus
11/18/21 11:23:46 AM
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IfGodCouldDie posted...
They are the ones that outsourced it, no?
TPC did.

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11/18/21 11:24:05 AM
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pkmnlord
11/18/21 11:24:21 AM
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I'm more concerned about them using the original Gen 4 Pokedex so that means Fire types are gonna be extremely few and far between and that fire type Elite 4 member is gonna look like a total joke again.

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Blue_Inigo
11/18/21 11:29:03 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Did you feel the same about the past remakes allowing you to get Gen 2/3 Pokemon in FRLG, Gen 3/4 in HGSS, and Gen 4/5/6 in ORAS (with ORAS even having the thing with Hoopa's rings and including all-new Megas including Mega Rayquaza as part of the story)?
FRLG had literally two gen 3 pokemon and a handful of gen 2 locked into post game. Besides the Sevii Islands, that game was a direct remake. When I played it or HGSS, I was not concerned about whether future Pokmon were in it.

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Solar_Crimson
11/18/21 11:30:37 AM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
FRLG had literally two gen 3 pokemon and a handful of gen 2 locked into post game. Besides the Sevii Islands, that game was a direct remake. When I played it or HGSS, I was not concerned about whether future Pokmon were in it.
The point was, those Pokemon were still in the game and could be traded over, even if you had to work a bit harder to enable them.

And the Sevii Islands is still more than what BDSP seems to be adding.

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Tom Clark
11/18/21 11:30:45 AM
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megamanfreakXD posted...
I have not played a pokemon since the DS days.

But what the fuck?
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Srk700
11/18/21 11:32:41 AM
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I'd rather they just port the originals to the Switch and just play those than spend $60 on the same game with a different coat of paint.
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Turbam
11/18/21 11:33:40 AM
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megamanfreakXD posted...
I have not played a pokemon since the DS days.

But what the fuck?
https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-swsh/sirfetch'd/


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Prismsblade
11/18/21 11:37:22 AM
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It's intentional for the fanchise to create mediocre new installments, and maintaining a consistent stagnanation so they're never have to outdo the next game.

Which holds the franchise back as a whole, but for longevity purposes.....its works.

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Calwings
11/18/21 11:43:12 AM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
When I played it or HGSS, I was not concerned about whether future Pokmon were in it.

That's your opinion. I'm glad that HG/SS threw in a few gen 4 evolutions like Mamoswine that you could get during the main game (because their evolutions had conditions that you could achieve without needing something from the postgame) and that you could trade in Hoenn/Sinnoh Pokemon if you really wanted to. If people want to do a "pure" playthrough with only Pokemon that were available in the original game, they can. But I think taking away the option for other people to play through a familiar region with new Pokemon as a way to shake things up is stupid. Hell, even if they made it so you have to beat the game the "pure" way at least once before you can do other playthroughs with Pokemon from other regions, that would be fine too.
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Wetterdew
11/18/21 12:02:21 PM
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SerperiorThanU posted...
Not even half.
how many pokemon do you think there are?
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HowieMandel
11/18/21 12:02:27 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...

This is on Game Freak and ILCA, not Nintendo.


*looks at N64 emulation status*

Lol no
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Solar_Crimson
11/18/21 12:05:21 PM
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HowieMandel posted...
*looks at N64 emulation status*

Lol no
What does that have to do with BDSP?

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Lost_All_Senses
11/18/21 12:05:34 PM
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Has anybody here caught more than 493 pokemon in one the games? >_>

I don't have the system to play this, but I'm definitely one the people that wouldn't even come close, so it doesn't matter.

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Solar_Crimson
11/18/21 12:07:54 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Has anybody here caught more than 493 pokemon in one the games? >_>

I don't have the system to play this, but I'm definitely one the people that wouldn't even come close, so it doesn't matter.
I completed the Pokedex in both Black 2 (649) and Y (718), mainly for the Shiny Charm in both.

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ToadallyAwesome
11/18/21 12:08:25 PM
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Honestly it seems people are missing the forest for the trees.

Its very obvious that the jump from Gameboy/DS/3DS to the switch was bigger than GF or TPC are willing to admit.

Some of the newer Pokmon arent the same art style as this remake. Its not as easy as it was to do the modeling.

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Katsuki_Bakugo
11/18/21 12:09:23 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
It doesn't matter. 493 Pokemon is plenty for a remake.
Slurp slurp

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Tyranthraxus
11/18/21 12:10:06 PM
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ToadallyAwesome posted...
Honestly it seems people are missing the forest for the trees.

Its very obvious that the jump from Gameboy/DS/3DS was bigger than GF or TPC are willing to admit.

Some of the newer Pokmon arent the same art style as this remake. Its not as easy as it was to do the modeling.
You say this shit like they haven't already had models for everything in like 8 games by now

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Gwynevere
11/18/21 12:12:06 PM
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PowerOats posted...
ORAS still the best remake
That's big fucking facts dude

ORAS wasn't perfect and should have included more of Emeralds content, but gen 3 was my first and I absolutely loved oras

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ToadallyAwesome
11/18/21 12:13:56 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
You say this shit like they haven't already had models for everything in like 8 games by now

Not full smooth HD looking ones. Its why Sword and Shield had so many issues. They had only had 3DS quality sprites and had to start from scratch. Gamefreak isnt as big a company as people think. It still takes time to make the models look presentable. As the fans will let them know if it looks bad

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Nemu
11/18/21 12:17:24 PM
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ToadallyAwesome posted...
Not full smooth HD looking ones. Its why Sword and Shield had so many issues. They had only had 3DS quality sprites and had to start from scratch. Gamefreak isnt as big a company as people think. It still takes time to make the models look presentable. As the fans will let them know if it looks bad
It's been a while, but didn't people prove their excuses were pretty much full BS?
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Tyranthraxus
11/18/21 12:18:09 PM
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ToadallyAwesome posted...
Not full smooth HD looking ones. Its why Sword and Shield had so many issues. They had only had 3DS quality sprites and had to start from scratch. Gamefreak isnt as big a company as people think. It still takes time to make the models look presentable. As the fans will let them know if it looks bad
That's not true either. The HD models for everything are still in Pokemon Go minus I think like 3 of them including rotom.

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spikethedevil
11/18/21 12:19:21 PM
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PowerOats posted...
ORAS still the best remake

HG/Soul Silver imo.

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