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Gwynevere 11/24/21 11:10:34 AM #51: |
sevihaimerej posted...
Attacking beloved authors and comedians will do nothing but make public opinion of trans people worse"Stop criticizing bigots for their shitty beliefs and behavior" Calling out the bad behavior and explaining how it's wrong if how you eventually get rid of the problem. Even if most people believe what she believes, the times are changing and that won't be the case forever. And can you show that the protest of JK Rowling has impacted public perception of trans people in any meaningful way? --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sevihaimerej 11/24/21 11:18:20 AM #52: |
CyricZ posted...
Lie.That belief is the crux of everything, that is what needs to be defeated not the flesh it inhabits. You kill a belief by demonstrating it's lack of value/utility, truth has nothing to do with this since it's all human constructed language games so you gotta tug the heart strings and make people WANT to change their beliefs not attack relentlessly until people like you, that doesn't work. Do you think this protest/pseudo-doxxing is gonna make people more sympathetic to trans people? I think the final joke of Dave Chappelle's The Closer comes much closer to accomplishing that, it's a lot easier to build empathy from a place of joy and love than rabid activism against artists. Were the targets politicians that would not only make a lot more sense but also be way more effective --- There was a sig here It's gone now ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IShall_Run_Amok 11/24/21 11:23:11 AM #54: |
You can't spell "transphobe" without "ho".
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sevihaimerej 11/24/21 11:25:55 AM #55: |
Gwynevere posted...
"Stop criticizing bigots for their shitty beliefs and behavior"JK Rowling no as it's just happening now, but if we move back in time just a little bit to the Dave Chappelle protests you would be lying if you claim not to see how that soured public perception of trans people on behalf of only a few unhinged activists. I....really don't know much about or even care for the works of JK Rowling just calling out bad strategy when I see it. --- There was a sig here It's gone now ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrToothHasYou 11/24/21 11:27:23 AM #56: |
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StarsOfCCTV 11/24/21 11:34:00 AM #57: |
Can someone just quote exactly what she said?
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CyricZ 11/24/21 11:45:20 AM #58: |
Looks like she's supporting "For Women Scotland", an anti trans group now.
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ZevLoveDOOM 11/24/21 11:47:30 AM #59: |
best way to protest her would be to boycott her stuff. im sure she would get the message if people stopped buying her books and shit...
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Maze_ 11/24/21 11:48:37 AM #60: |
ZevLoveDOOM posted...
best way to protest her would be to boycott her stuff. im sure she would get the message if people stopped buying her books and shit...she didn't reveal her hatred until she was a near billionaire --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 11/24/21 12:00:15 PM #61: |
ZevLoveDOOM posted...
best way to protest her would be to boycott her stuff. im sure she would get the message if people stopped buying her books and shit...Best way to protest is to protest. As was mentioned, she's already S-class rich, so boycotts wouldn't say much, and even if she weren't, you do know the best way to organize a massive boycott is by getting the word out, right? --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lyrica 11/24/21 12:12:50 PM #62: |
ZevLoveDOOM posted...
best way to protest her would be to boycott her stuff. im sure she would get the message if people stopped buying her books and shit... She's already rich, and she has no affiliation with certain IPs, like that Hogwarts Legacy game. Just keep calling her out on her shit on social media. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 11/24/21 12:22:23 PM #63: |
CyricZ posted...
Best way to protest is to protest.Do so properly, though. Try to avoid harassment and doxxing. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 11/24/21 12:33:52 PM #64: |
Nobody go to Gob for advice on how to protest properly.
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Gobstoppers12 11/24/21 12:34:43 PM #65: |
CyricZ posted...
Nobody go to Gob for advice on how to protest properly.So what you're saying is that harassment and doxxing are acceptable ways to protest? --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sevihaimerej 11/24/21 12:40:25 PM #66: |
CyricZ posted...
Nobody go to Gob for advice on how to protest properly.I'm not convinced you are very well versed on political strategy yourself, stuff like this only gives more ammo to the far right and accomplishes absolutely nothing. What good is supposed to come from protesting outside a famous authors house? Who is being convinced of what by this? --- There was a sig here It's gone now ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 11/24/21 12:45:26 PM #67: |
Like I'm not in the least bit surprised on the anti-protest sentiment.
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Gobstoppers12 11/24/21 12:47:39 PM #68: |
CyricZ posted...
Like I'm not in the least bit surprised on the anti-protest sentiment.Saying "protest without harassing or doxxing people" is not anti-protest. It's anti harassment and anti doxxing. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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skermac 11/24/21 12:47:42 PM #69: |
Go after all haters not just one because she is rich
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skermac 11/24/21 12:48:37 PM #70: |
Mlk jr proved peaceful protests work
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CyricZ 11/24/21 12:50:31 PM #71: |
skermac posted...
Mlk jr proved peaceful protests workWhat was violent about this protest? --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 11/24/21 12:50:49 PM #72: |
CyricZ posted...
What was violent about this protest?Harassment isn't peaceful. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 11/24/21 12:51:43 PM #73: |
Please add skermac to the list of people you should not consult for "proper protest".
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ModLogic 11/24/21 12:52:00 PM #74: |
Gobstoppers12 posted...
Harassment isn't peaceful.it is in this context --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 11/24/21 1:00:31 PM #75: |
ModLogic posted...
it is in this contextit's not. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lyrica 11/24/21 1:02:25 PM #76: |
CyricZ posted...
Please add skermac to the list of people you should not consult for "proper protest". Why do you think harrassment and doxxing is a proper way to protest? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 11/24/21 1:03:44 PM #77: |
It's not doxxing
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ModLogic 11/24/21 1:03:49 PM #78: |
please stop engaging the Sanctimonious Sect
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CyricZ 11/24/21 1:04:49 PM #79: |
Who in this topic is being sanctimonious I wonder
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MrMallard 11/24/21 8:03:44 PM #80: |
skermac posted...
Go after all haters not just one because she is richOf course, but JK Rowling is a significant person to protest due to the power she has. It's more effective to protest one person who has a significant effect on a hate movement than it is to post a Twitter comment saying "we reject all transphobes!". Because no doy, transphobes suck. But here's a particularly powerful one whose influence affects the lives of these three activists, so why should they not protest them specifically? skermac posted... Mlk jr proved peaceful protests workMLK Jr was also blackmailed by the CIA in the hopes of killing himself, and when that didn't work he was murdered. There's also a whole lot of MLK stuff that gets overlooked, presumably because it'd make moderate whites feel uncomfortable - such as the fact that moderate whites who only seem to care about maintaining the status quo are basically calling for black people to be quiet and accept their lot in life, even if they think they're being benevolent and progressive. Gobstoppers12 posted... Do so properly, though. Try to avoid harassment and doxxing.Even before this news article, you could Google JK Rowling's home address and see pictures of it. It was a goof of them not to cover the house number, I'll agree, but if the average layperson can find JK Rowling's place of residence with a Google search - not a deep dive into her Facebook or some shit, but a publically available article or a line in her Wikipedia bio saying where she lives, as what happens to celebrities - I don't see this as some particularly egregious example of doxxing. You might as well call those Homes of the Stars tours they do in Hollywood a form of doxxing. Let's face it, a lot of personal information about celebrities is out there and discoverable by your average layperson. While I think it was a gaffe on their part, I also think the information they had to find out where she lives was probably pretty easy to find, and I don't think this was an attempt to dox so much as I think it was an attempt to further highlight how shittily JK Rowling treats trans people. It's just taken an unfortunate turn. --- Thought I saw a mouse kicking in your beak, it was only a skeleton Now Playing: Persona 3 FES, Minecraft, Oldschool Runescape ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lZUAL_REBlRTH 11/25/21 1:40:02 PM #83: |
StarsOfCCTV posted...
Can someone just quote exactly what she said? This article has some direct quotes. I didnt read it properly before. https://www.india.com/viral/terf-becomes-the-most-searched-query-on-google-after-jk-rowlings-anti-trans-tweets-heres-what-it-means-4055490/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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