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Xavier_On_High
12/04/21 2:36:52 PM
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Or so the Germans would have you believe.

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Tyranthraxus
12/04/21 2:39:23 PM
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It's World war 3 time.

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Sheiky-Baby
12/04/21 2:41:33 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
It's World war 3 time.


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pikachupwnage
12/04/21 2:44:44 PM
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Imagine if China uses a crisis with Russia to try to take Taiwan figuring the west can't stop them and Russia at the same time.

Scary shit.

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12/04/21 2:48:09 PM
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pikachupwnage posted...
Imagine if China uses a crisis with Russia to try to take Taiwan figuring the west can't stop them and Russia at the same time.

Scary shit.
Tankies would cream their pants

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Johnny_Nutcase
12/04/21 2:48:59 PM
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pikachupwnage posted...
Imagine if China uses a crisis with Russia to try to take Taiwan figuring the west can't stop them and Russia at the same time.

Scary shit.

And while were watching those two, Canada is up there lookin at us like "Todays the day boys! Let's take Topeka!"

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sabrestorm
12/04/21 2:49:03 PM
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Why would anyone in the USA care?

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The Popo
12/04/21 2:50:04 PM
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sabrestorm posted...
Why would anyone in the USA care?

Look to past instances of countries taking over other countries as a learning opportunity. It doesnt end well.

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Irony
12/04/21 2:50:25 PM
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Time for skermac alt to go

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ekie
12/04/21 2:51:43 PM
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sabrestorm posted...
Why would anyone in the USA care?

Because it never stops there with dictators

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Wolfesth6090
12/04/21 2:52:34 PM
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sabrestorm posted...
Why would anyone in the USA care?

Said America in 1938 when Germany invaded and annexed Czechoslovakia.
How did that end again?
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Strider102
12/04/21 2:52:44 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
It's World war 3 time.

Bring it on

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ScazarMeltex
12/04/21 5:30:43 PM
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sabrestorm posted...
Why would anyone in the USA care?
Because the US has some obligations to defend Ukrainian territorial sovereignty against Russian agression. See after the fall of the Soviet Union there were concerns about the amount of newly nuclear armed states that would arise out of it. So in exchange for giving up their nukes (which they wanted to keep as protection against Russia) Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan the US and the UN agreed to protect their sovereignty against future Russian agression.

That being said, it doesn't really guarantee shit since it's not a promise of military aid. It's mostly just a pinky promise to be mad at Russia and since Russia sits on the security council of the UN and thus has vero power, nothing will happen.

The chief issue that people should be concerned about here is what this means for the Baltic States, which is next on the list of old Soviet empire states that the Russians want back. They are NATO members and that does guarantee military aid under article 5. That being said, the Russians can overrun the NATO forces in the region faster than NATO can reinforce them which essentially means mobilizing NATO's military forces to liberate Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania. Do you really think the US, after 20 years and trillions of dollars wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan is interested in sending it's sons and daughters to save Baltic States from Russian? Pretty doubtful. Which is exactly what the Russians want and why they are testing the waters in Ukraine right after the Afghanistan withdrawal debacle.

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Jiek_Fafn
12/04/21 5:36:01 PM
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Remember when they did this to Crimea? Probably the same result. And then the same result the next time they do this.

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What_
12/04/21 5:36:45 PM
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Time to nuke Putin
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Flauros
12/04/21 5:37:03 PM
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Popcorn2000
12/04/21 5:39:10 PM
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Peace through popcorn
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Broseph_Stalin
12/04/21 5:40:22 PM
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I hope at least a few of you guys realize why the Russian government funds and supports political movements in the west aimed at defunding the military.
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DandyQuackShot
12/04/21 6:00:22 PM
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RIP

Thats a lot of gas that Russia will control.

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Blue_Inigo
12/04/21 6:01:22 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
I hope at least a few of you guys realize why the Russian government funds and supports political movements in the west aimed at defunding the military.
Do you ever get tired of saying the dumbest shit

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TheHoldSteady
12/04/21 6:05:04 PM
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Russias the biggest country in the world and they stillwant more land what's with those guys geez

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SoIidLegacy
12/04/21 6:05:07 PM
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US & EU: "Russia, you can't just go shooting down commercial airplanes, imprison/assissinate political opponents or taking other country's territories."
Russia: "Oh, we're not doing any of that, we swear."
*literally does all of that*
Russia: "Well, at some point in history it was our territory anyway, so eh, no harm done, right?
US & EU: "ALRIGHT THAT'S IT! We're putin' sanctions on you!"
Russia: "Lol ok, we'll just get our stuff elsewhere."
US & EU: *realize they can't really do anything else about it, so they won't mention it anymore, until the next Russian scandal*

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Unsugarized_Foo
12/04/21 6:06:23 PM
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What's Ukraine got that makes it worth it?

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BilalPowell
12/04/21 6:07:37 PM
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It's ok Biden and Putin will skype this week

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Broseph_Stalin
12/04/21 6:07:39 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Do you ever get tired of saying the dumbest shit

Do ever get tired of having nothing in response to a fact you don't like besides a tantrum?
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BilalPowell
12/04/21 6:08:04 PM
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TheHoldSteady posted...
Russias the biggest country in the world and they stillwant more land what's with those guys geez
They admire the British Empire

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Mist_Turnips
12/04/21 6:08:44 PM
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BilalPowell posted...
It's ok Biden and Putin will skype this week

And half of the call Biden will be asleep.
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BilalPowell
12/04/21 6:09:20 PM
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Wolfesth6090 posted...
Said America in 1938 when Germany invaded and annexed Czechoslovakia.
How did that end again?
Germany wasn't gonna do anything to America if not for Japan dragging us into the war.

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DandyQuackShot
12/04/21 6:11:57 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
What's Ukraine got that makes it worth it?


Oilfields

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SergeantGander
12/04/21 6:13:04 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
What's Ukraine got that makes it worth it?

Hunter Biden's oil or oil paintings

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UnholyMudcrab
12/04/21 6:13:59 PM
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Oh boy, more excellent analysis from the CE geopolitics masters

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BilalPowell
12/04/21 6:14:13 PM
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Mist_Turnips posted...
And half of the call Biden will be asleep.
That's why they make it on skype. It'll just be Jeff Bezos talking with Biden's face on the screen.

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Itachi157
12/04/21 6:17:07 PM
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I would support a US intervention here (hopefully with our allies). We can't let dictators start taking over other countries because they want to.

This is the the kind of thing our military should be used for (helping allies and checking people like Putin) rather than invading other countries and occupying them for 20 years.
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uwnim
12/04/21 6:18:07 PM
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Russia probably wants to take back all the countries that used to be part of the russian empire.

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Broseph_Stalin
12/04/21 6:19:11 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
What's Ukraine got that makes it worth it?

A democratically elected government.
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Bad_Mojo
12/04/21 6:20:22 PM
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ElatedVenusaur
12/04/21 6:23:15 PM
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I mean, if they were planning a massive invasion within a few months, there would be more than a plan. There would be an obvious massing of soldiers, equipment, and hardware.

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Mearcstapa
12/04/21 6:25:39 PM
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Drop a nuke on Putin's Palace already and be done with it.

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Broseph_Stalin
12/04/21 6:26:25 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
There would be an obvious massing of soldiers, equipment, and hardware.

That's literally what they're doing but I appreciate your commitment to being wrong about everything all the time. You're like the new Admiral.
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Ysmir
12/04/21 6:26:35 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
I mean, if they were planning a massive invasion within a few months, there would be more than a plan. There would be an obvious massing of soldiers, equipment, and hardware.
Like theyre doing? Lol

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furb
12/04/21 6:27:29 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
I mean, if they were planning a massive invasion within a few months, there would be more than a plan. There would be an obvious massing of soldiers, equipment, and hardware.


https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/43371/russia-bolsters-supply-lines-deploys-medical-units-near-ukraine-as-invasion-fears-grow-report

This has been going on for like several months btw

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Ysmir
12/04/21 6:28:22 PM
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Its weird how edgy communists who long for the Soviet Union feel the need to defend Putins Russia as well

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ScazarMeltex
12/04/21 6:31:29 PM
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Ysmir posted...
Its weird how edgy communists who long for the Soviet Union feel the need to defend Putins Russia as well
Imperialists are always gonna back Imperialists, doesn't matter if it's communistic or capitalistic. That's the problem with Tankies, their ideology is more wrapped up in opposing the US than it is anything else. Not to say that the US and it's policies shouldn't be opposed, it absolutely should be. Just that doing so doesn't necessarily make you the good guy.

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Ysmir
12/04/21 6:32:49 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Imperialists are always gonna back Imperialists, doesn't matter if it's communistic or capitalistic. That's the problem with Tankies, their ideology is more wrapped up in opposing the US than it is anything else. Not to say that the US and it's policies shouldn't be opposed, it absolutely should be. Just that doing so doesn't necessarily make you the good guy.
Yeah thats a good point

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pikachupwnage
12/04/21 9:31:31 PM
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sabrestorm posted...
Why would anyone in the USA care?

Because economic or refugee fallout we may have to deal with?

Because we have obligations under various treaties, agreements etc to Ukraine and/or its neighbors.

Because Russia and China are Hostile powers we don't want getting more influence and power?

Because invading other countries is generally a bad thing we shouldn't want happening?

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Nukazie
12/04/21 9:34:35 PM
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Mearcstapa posted...
Drop a nuke on Putin's Palace already and be done with it.
but people will die and shit!

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Unsugarized_Foo
12/04/21 9:35:24 PM
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Well, dies Ukraine have a 2nd amendment type deal? Imagine how much of a pain itd be to have a couple million small arms in your way

For years

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