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TheChariot 12/10/21 12:38:37 AM #52:	Back_Stabbath posted... what is the idea user level, karma, and AMP ratio when folks do this? how do you win? >_> I average like 10 AMP and my karma lines up with the creation date and I'm a troll alt apparently. But then you have new users who have like 10 karma/ 400 AMP and ? Blocks with 5k karma/80 AMP that fit this criteria too. like wut? You should post more often. You have an awesome username. --- The Others are out there! Conservatives do not think right! They are anti-vax, anti-mask, and anti-social distancing. The pandemic has killed 800,000 Americans! <cite>TheChariot posted [p:960782850] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>Back_Stabbath posted... </cite> <quote>what is the idea user level, karma, and AMP ratio when folks do this? how do you win? >_> I average like 10 AMP and my karma lines up with the creation date and I'm a troll alt apparently. But then you have new users who have like 10 karma/ 400 AMP and ? Blocks with 5k karma/80 AMP that fit this criteria too. like wut?</quote>You should post more often. You have an awesome username. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
What_ 12/10/21 12:39:13 AM #53:	What do her opponents think? <cite>What_ posted [p:960782860] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>What do her opponents think? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nukazie 12/10/21 12:39:53 AM #54:	What_ posted... What do her opponents think? do they really matter --- Life is just a journey from the maternity ward to the crematorium. https://imgur.com/a/LEjr0RZ waifu courtesy of bnui_ransder <cite>Nukazie posted [p:960782874] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>What_ posted... </cite> <quote>What do her opponents think?</quote>do they really matter </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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averagejoel 12/10/21 7:06:09 PM #56:	articles like this, and topics about them, really skew the way trans people are perceived! I think there should be some sort of soft ban on topics like this: once one topic about a highly skilled trans woman athlete is posted, posting another results in a usermap axe until 50 or so have been posted about trans women performing at average or below-average levels --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:960805011] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>articles like this, and topics about them, really skew the way trans people are perceived! I think there should be some sort of soft ban on topics like this: once one topic about a highly skilled trans woman athlete is posted, posting another results in a usermap axe until 50 or so have been posted about trans women performing at average or below-average levels </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 12/10/21 7:13:37 PM #57:	Tag so I can look for transphobic shitposts and then follow up on the names of users who made them --- I do not receive notifications, so using the @ feature will not do anything. I might see your post and respond though if I have already been in the topic. <cite>Machete posted [p:960805213] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>Tag so I can look for transphobic shitposts and then follow up on the names of users who made them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 12/10/21 7:39:00 PM #58:	What_ posted... What do her opponents think? Her teammates seem to be pretty upset over it. described Penn swimmers on the Akron pool deck as upset and crying, knowing they were going to be demolished by Thomas. "Usually everyone claps, everyone is yelling and cheering when someone wins a race. Lia touched the wall and it was just silent in there," --- https://imgur.com/ZFt3WwT http://error1355.com/ce/gatorsPENSbucs.html https://i.imgur.com/pqMQZyw.gif <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:960805846] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>What_ posted... </cite> <quote>What do her opponents think?</quote>Her teammates seem to be pretty upset over it. described Penn swimmers on the Akron pool deck as upset and crying, knowing they were going to be demolished by Thomas. "Usually everyone claps, everyone is yelling and cheering when someone wins a race. Lia touched the wall and it was just silent in there," </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zinezinzadan 12/10/21 7:40:20 PM #59:	Almost every user above me in here calling this as transphobia, which is the majority of you. Id like to let you know that my opinion is irrelevant, and your opinion is irrelevant. So all these transphobic remarks youre making are vile and ignorant. The only person(s) whose opinion matters is those that are affected by it, those who participate in the functions. So the rest of you can shut the fuck up, and not put your nose where it doesnt belong. If you havent trained your entire life as a competitor, you have no right to an opinion on the adversity these athletes have to deal with. Video gamers on an internet board have no weight in this discussion, you probably cant run a mile properly, so please leave these athletes and their world alone to them to decide what is appropriate. Trying to project your opinion onto others and claiming it as holy grail and anyone who disagrees needs a soft ban is serious fascist shit. What the FUCK? I didnt realize having Nazzi similarities was common and so open in public. Notice how I never give an opinion on transgender athletes? Because Im not a woman athlete! Its not my place to put my nose in it. Holy shit the ignorance. --- "If you disagree with drug use you're racist" - CE user Shablagoo & JKWaffle <cite>zinezinzadan posted [p:960805879] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>Almost every user above me in here calling this as transphobia, which is the majority of you. Id like to let you know that my opinion is irrelevant, and your opinion is irrelevant. So all these transphobic remarks youre making are vile and ignorant. The only person(s) whose opinion matters is those that are affected by it, those who participate in the functions. So the rest of you can shut the fuck up, and not put your nose where it doesnt belong. If you havent trained your entire life as a competitor, you have no right to an opinion on the adversity these athletes have to deal with. Video gamers on an internet board have no weight in this discussion, you probably cant run a mile properly, so please leave these athletes and their world alone to them to decide what is appropriate. Trying to project your opinion onto others and claiming it as holy grail and anyone who disagrees needs a soft ban is serious fascist shit. What the FUCK? I didnt realize having Nazzi similarities was common and so open in public. Notice how I never give an opinion on transgender athletes? Because Im not a woman athlete! Its not my place to put my nose in it. Holy shit the ignorance. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ColdOne666 12/10/21 8:58:26 PM #60:	This is the CE board on Gamefaqs, dont expect any intelligence here. Only way it could be worse is if it was the Pol board. --- Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI! <cite>ColdOne666 posted [p:960807850] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>This is the CE board on Gamefaqs, dont expect any intelligence here. Only way it could be worse is if it was the Pol board. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragooncancer_ 12/10/21 9:03:40 PM #61:	How come we never hear about FTM people smashing sporting records? --- I used to be with it, but then they changed what "it" was, and now what I'm with isn't it. And what's "it" seems weird and scary to me. <cite>Dragooncancer_ posted [p:960808007] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>How come we never hear about FTM people smashing sporting records? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TommyG663513 12/10/21 9:07:39 PM #62:	I'm just gonna assume this topic is full of bad faith defenses for why trans athletes could not possibly ever have an unfair advantage. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 <cite>TommyG663513 posted [p:960808138] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>I'm just gonna assume this topic is full of bad faith defenses for why trans athletes could not possibly ever have an unfair advantage. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 12/10/21 9:17:05 PM #63:	Dragooncancer_ posted... How come we never hear about FTM people smashing sporting records? because transphobic tabloids tend not to write articles about that happening; and in turn they tend not to be posted here --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:960808403] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>Dragooncancer_ posted... </cite> <quote>How come we never hear about FTM people smashing sporting records?</quote>because transphobic tabloids tend not to write articles about that happening; and in turn they tend not to be posted here </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Middle hope 12/10/21 9:20:24 PM #64:	averagejoel posted... because transphobic tabloids tend not to write articles about that happening; and in turn they tend not to be posted here How is that transphobic? --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://i.imgur.com/PmX8smn.gif https://i.imgur.com/mwTy0iF.gif https://i.imgur.com/FCER80e.gif <cite>Middle hope posted [p:960808510] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted... </cite> <quote>because transphobic tabloids tend not to write articles about that happening; and in turn they tend not to be posted here</quote>How is that transphobic? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giblet_Enjoyer 12/10/21 9:40:21 PM #65:	Middle hope posted... How is that transphobic? Bringing up certain realities about certain subjects is bigotry. It just is. --- He which make friends with scorpion, soon come to find out what a scorpion does - they bite people with its tail --ancient Chinese proverb <cite>Giblet_Enjoyer posted [p:960809037] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>Middle hope posted... </cite> <quote>How is that transphobic?</quote>Bringing up certain realities about certain subjects is bigotry. It just is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 12/10/21 10:00:09 PM #66:	Middle hope posted... How is that transphobic? because instances of trans women performing at this high a level get way more coverage than their actual frequency would merit. they're over-reported. and then people with poor critical thinking skills, or people who just want another excuse to hate trans women (such as most of the people in this topic) get a skewed idea of how often this kind of thing actually happens. --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:960809552] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>Middle hope posted... </cite> <quote>How is that transphobic?</quote>because instances of trans women performing at this high a level get way more coverage than their actual frequency would merit. they're over-reported. and then people with poor critical thinking skills, or people who just want another excuse to hate trans women (such as most of the people in this topic) get a skewed idea of how often this kind of thing actually happens. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 12/10/21 10:21:02 PM #67:	Dragooncancer_ posted... How come we never hear about FTM people smashing sporting records? Because that rarely, if ever happens. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:960810130] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>Dragooncancer_ posted... </cite> <quote>How come we never hear about FTM people smashing sporting records?</quote> Because that rarely, if ever happens. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 12/10/21 10:24:58 PM #68:	Cpt_Pineapple posted... User Info: DocileOrangeCup Ancient User Since: Sep 2014 Karma: 2214 Active Posts: 401 User Info: Cpt_Pineapple Warned User Since: Jul 2006 Karma: 5555 Active Posts: 47 --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:960810237] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>Cpt_Pineapple posted...</cite> <quote>User Info: DocileOrangeCup Ancient User Since: Sep 2014 Karma: 2214 Active Posts: 401</quote> User Info: Cpt_Pineapple Warned User Since: Jul 2006 Karma: 5555 Active Posts: 47</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 12/10/21 10:30:59 PM #69:	AngelsNAirwav3s posted... She continued her record-breaking streak Sunday, winning the 1,650-yard freestyle by *more than 38 seconds* with a time of 15:59.71, Thats the part that I think people arent fully appreciating. If youve done anything competitive, that gap should look insane to you. That is close to the real life version of the joke about Lebron James scoring 700 points if he joined the WNBA. But I dont compete in swimming anyway, so its whatever. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:960810377] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>AngelsNAirwav3s posted... </cite> <quote>She continued her record-breaking streak Sunday, winning the 1,650-yard freestyle by more than 38 seconds with a time of 15:59.71, </quote> Thats the part that I think people arent fully appreciating. If youve done anything competitive, that gap should look insane to you. That is close to the real life version of the joke about Lebron James scoring 700 points if he joined the WNBA. But I dont compete in swimming anyway, so its whatever. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Simp 12/10/21 10:33:42 PM #70:	Slayer_22 posted... User Info: Cpt_Pineapple Karma: 5555 Nice. Mods should keep him there for a while for symmetry. Like a couple months maybe. --- Faceless goofus in a sea of alts <cite>Simp posted [p:960810449] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>User Info: Cpt_Pineapple Karma: 5555</quote> Nice. Mods should keep him there for a while for symmetry. Like a couple months maybe. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Perascamin 12/10/21 10:36:53 PM #71:	How can you be pro empowerment of women and then also say "you didn't care about women's sports before this happened" like that argument somehow eliminates the problem that cis female athletes are facing? --- I've grown. <cite>Perascamin posted [p:960810526] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>How can you be pro empowerment of women and then also say "you didn't care about women's sports before this happened" like that argument somehow eliminates the problem that cis female athletes are facing? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 12/10/21 10:50:26 PM #72:	We just need to rip off the band aid and admit that language has changed and going forward it is males/females sports as opposed to mens/womens. Would that solve anything? If Im missing something I welcome a dialogue on the issue. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:960810824] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>We just need to rip off the band aid and admit that language has changed and going forward it is males/females sports as opposed to mens/womens. Would that solve anything? If Im missing something I welcome a dialogue on the issue. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 12/10/21 10:58:01 PM #73:	NeoShadowhen posted... We just need to rip off the band aid and admit that language has changed and going forward it is males/females sports as opposed to mens/womens. Would that solve anything? If Im missing something I welcome a dialogue on the issue. I've always said sports should be separated by sex, not gender. Also women are welcome to join almost any male league but none have been able to physically do it yet at the pro level, and rarely at the collegiate level, which is why there are different leagues for the sexes. --- Oda break tracker 2021- 9 (4) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 6-6 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:960810957] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote>We just need to rip off the band aid and admit that language has changed and going forward it is males/females sports as opposed to mens/womens. Would that solve anything? If Im missing something I welcome a dialogue on the issue. </quote> I've always said sports should be separated by sex, not gender. Also women are welcome to join almost any male league but none have been able to physically do it yet at the pro level, and rarely at the collegiate level, which is why there are different leagues for the sexes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 12/10/21 10:59:28 PM #74:	Giblet_Enjoyer posted... Bringing up certain realities about certain subjects is bigotry. It just is. it's very possible to take "certain realities" out of context and deduce flawed conclusions from them. --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:960810990] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>Giblet_Enjoyer posted... </cite> <quote>Bringing up certain realities about certain subjects is bigotry. It just is.</quote>it's very possible to take "certain realities" out of context and deduce flawed conclusions from them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VigorouslySwish 12/10/21 11:03:45 PM #75:	This is hilariously unfair to the players born with vaginas --- i'm just some guy yellin' about apple sauce <cite>VigorouslySwish posted [p:960811088] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>This is hilariously unfair to the players born with vaginas </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GALA462 12/10/21 11:34:12 PM #76:	Well records are meant to be broken. --- Mac Book Pro 16 - 6-Core i7-9750H @ 2.60GHz - 32gb DDR4 2667 MHz - Radeon Pro 5500M 8gb - 2TB Apple SSD Now Playing: Metroid Dread, Tales of Arise, Dead By Daylight <cite>GALA462 posted [p:960811690] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>Well records are meant to be broken. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BilalPowell 12/10/21 11:47:04 PM #77:	Just get rid of all gender barriers in sports. 1 league for all genders the best of the best. If you're not good enough do something else. --- Former #1 Birmingham Iron Fan. RIP AAF <cite>BilalPowell posted [p:960811935] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>Just get rid of all gender barriers in sports. 1 league for all genders the best of the best. If you're not good enough do something else. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TommyG663513 12/11/21 12:24:42 AM #78:	averagejoel posted... it's very possible to take "certain realities" out of context and deduce flawed conclusions from them. What type of context does it need to be put in? If there is one steroid user in baseball is it wrong to report on it, because "people might get the idea that there is more than one steroid user" ? The reality here that people like you seem hell bent on denying is that MtF trans persons can have a very significant advantage over cis females in athletics. Specifically, I'd argue that they will have the biggest advantages in individual sports where pure strength and speed are extremely advantageous. I'd also argue that their advantages will be less so in team sports where many other factors beyond strength and speed come into play. Quite frankly, I've never seen a good faith argument against this. It's a very complicated issue, but it is downright silly to pretend that MtF trans persons could ever possess a significant physical advantage over cis females. There are certainly individual factors to assess here too. Males and Females just possess such significantly different levels of strength on average and many people seem to be very much in denial of this. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 <cite>TommyG663513 posted [p:960812631] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted... </cite> <quote>it's very possible to take "certain realities" out of context and deduce flawed conclusions from them.</quote> What type of context does it need to be put in? If there is one steroid user in baseball is it wrong to report on it, because "people might get the idea that there is more than one steroid user" ? The reality here that people like you seem hell bent on denying is that MtF trans persons can have a very significant advantage over cis females in athletics. Specifically, I'd argue that they will have the biggest advantages in individual sports where pure strength and speed are extremely advantageous. I'd also argue that their advantages will be less so in team sports where many other factors beyond strength and speed come into play. Quite frankly, I've never seen a good faith argument against this. It's a very complicated issue, but it is downright silly to pretend that MtF trans persons could ever possess a significant physical advantage over cis females. There are certainly individual factors to assess here too. Males and Females just possess such significantly different levels of strength on average and many people seem to be very much in denial of this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TommyG663513 12/11/21 12:27:07 AM #79:	Perascamin posted... How can you be pro empowerment of women and then also say "you didn't care about women's sports before this happened" like that argument somehow eliminates the problem that cis female athletes are facing? It's because it is just a bad faith argument that works both ways. Most people who defend MtF trans persons simply don't follow sports or truly understand how VAST the physical differences between men and women can be. They are only arguing to care one bit about sports so they can argue some stupid narrative that allows them to feel superior to others. --- just tell them all your base doesn't belong to us because we were getting stoned...they'll understand-Ken156 <cite>TommyG663513 posted [p:960812669] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>Perascamin posted... </cite> <quote>How can you be pro empowerment of women and then also say "you didn't care about women's sports before this happened" like that argument somehow eliminates the problem that cis female athletes are facing?</quote> It's because it is just a bad faith argument that works both ways. Most people who defend MtF trans persons simply don't follow sports or truly understand how VAST the physical differences between men and women can be. They are only arguing to care one bit about sports so they can argue some stupid narrative that allows them to feel superior to others. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragooncancer_ 12/11/21 9:44:05 AM #80:	averagejoel posted... because transphobic tabloids tend not to write articles about that happening; and in turn they tend not to be posted here Are you implying this happens frequently but tabloids don't report on it? --- I used to be with it, but then they changed what "it" was, and now what I'm with isn't it. And what's "it" seems weird and scary to me. <cite>Dragooncancer_ posted [p:960818426] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted... </cite> <quote>because transphobic tabloids tend not to write articles about that happening; and in turn they tend not to be posted here</quote>Are you implying this happens frequently but tabloids don't report on it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 12/11/21 9:57:13 AM #81:	voldothegr8 posted... I've always said sports should be separated by sex, not gender. You've not "always" said anything. And doing that just means trans men would dominate over cis women, and cis men would completely prevent trans women from competing. That is to say your idea would literally destroy women's sports and make it so men are the only competitors. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:960818580] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>voldothegr8 posted... </cite> <quote>I've always said sports should be separated by sex, not gender.</quote>You've not "always" said anything. And doing that just means trans men would dominate over cis women, and cis men would completely prevent trans women from competing. That is to say your idea would literally destroy women's sports and make it so men are the only competitors. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 12/11/21 10:13:12 AM #82:	Dragooncancer_ posted... Are you implying this happens frequently but tabloids don't report on it? not implying. I'm directly saying it. edit: that is, there's no reason to believe that trans women break records more frequently than trans men, unless you're exclusively getting your information from these transphobic tabloids --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:960818813] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>Dragooncancer_ posted... </cite> <quote>Are you implying this happens frequently but tabloids don't report on it?</quote>not implying. I'm directly saying it. edit: that is, there's no reason to believe that trans women break records more frequently than trans men, unless you're exclusively getting your information from these transphobic tabloids </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 12/11/21 10:14:43 AM #83:	averagejoel posted... not implying. I'm directly saying it. I would love to see your examples of transmen dominating sporting events. <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:960818842] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted... </cite> <quote>not implying. I'm directly saying it.</quote>I would love to see your examples of transmen dominating sporting events. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 12/11/21 10:31:15 AM #84:	gunplagirl posted... You've not "always" said anything. And doing that just means trans men would dominate over cis women, and cis men would completely prevent trans women from competing. That is to say your idea would literally destroy women's sports and make it so men are the only competitors. Good point. I dont see any option that eliminates all downsides. For the sake of argument, what if sports were split into cis women, and just an open to everyone side? But even that seems to single out trans women more so than anyone else. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:960819083] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>You've not "always" said anything. And doing that just means trans men would dominate over cis women, and cis men would completely prevent trans women from competing. That is to say your idea would literally destroy women's sports and make it so men are the only competitors.</quote> Good point. I dont see any option that eliminates all downsides. For the sake of argument, what if sports were split into cis women, and just an open to everyone side? But even that seems to single out trans women more so than anyone else. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragooncancer_ 12/11/21 10:33:01 AM #85:	averagejoel posted... not implying. I'm directly saying it. edit: that is, there's no reason to believe that trans women break records more frequently than trans men, unless you're exclusively getting your information from these transphobic tabloids Can you share some examples of FTM athletes who are breaking records similar to ways multiple MTF athletes have? --- I used to be with it, but then they changed what "it" was, and now what I'm with isn't it. And what's "it" seems weird and scary to me. <cite>Dragooncancer_ posted [p:960819113] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted... </cite> <quote>not implying. I'm directly saying it. edit: that is, there's no reason to believe that trans women break records more frequently than trans men, unless you're exclusively getting your information from these transphobic tabloids</quote>Can you share some examples of FTM athletes who are breaking records similar to ways multiple MTF athletes have? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dathrowed1 12/11/21 1:32:51 PM #86:	Dragooncancer_ posted... Can you share some examples of FTM athletes who are breaking records similar to ways multiple MTF athletes have? Tenlaar posted... I would love to see your examples of transmen dominating sporting events. You are better than me. His statement would've disqualified his opinions to me --- sig <cite>Dathrowed1 posted [p:960822955] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>Dragooncancer_ posted... </cite> <quote>Can you share some examples of FTM athletes who are breaking records similar to ways multiple MTF athletes have?</quote> Tenlaar posted... </cite> <quote>I would love to see your examples of transmen dominating sporting events.</quote>You are better than me. His statement would've disqualified his opinions to me </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 12/11/21 1:35:31 PM #87:	Dathrowed1 posted... You are better than me. His statement would've disqualified his opinions to me Im quite certain that neither of them believe the person in question can produce an example. They are toying with them and trying to keep them talking. Odds are they arent coming back, though. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:960823034] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>Dathrowed1 posted... </cite> <quote>You are better than me. His statement would've disqualified his opinions to me</quote> Im quite certain that neither of them believe the person in question can produce an example. They are toying with them and trying to keep them talking. Odds are they arent coming back, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/11/21 1:36:37 PM #88:	spikethedevil posted... Didnt that trans weight lifter from NZ not win anything at the olympics? this is such a bad faith argument --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:960823074] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>spikethedevil posted... </cite> <quote>Didnt that trans weight lifter from NZ not win anything at the olympics?</quote>this is such a bad faith argument </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MasterVading 12/11/21 2:03:13 PM #89:	Patriarchy wins again. --- Wat. <cite>MasterVading posted [p:960823816] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>Patriarchy wins again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 12/11/21 2:04:13 PM #90:	MasterVading posted... Patriarchy wins again. Shut the fuck up and stop viewing trans women as subhuman --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:960823839] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>MasterVading posted... </cite> <quote>Patriarchy wins again. </quote>Shut the fuck up and stop viewing trans women as subhuman </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flauros 12/11/21 5:11:12 PM #91:	Dragooncancer_ posted... Can you share some examples of FTM athletes who are breaking records similar to ways multiple MTF athletes have? Thats what i was wondering. --- https://i.imgur.com/EX6Md7k.gif https://i.imgur.com/ygAzHKB.mp4 https://i.imgur.com/c84omp7.gif https://i.imgur.com/Hj9RrC6.mp4 <cite>Flauros posted [p:960828407] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>Dragooncancer_ posted... </cite> <quote>Can you share some examples of FTM athletes who are breaking records similar to ways multiple MTF athletes have?</quote>Thats what i was wondering. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dathrowed1 12/11/21 5:26:07 PM #92:	Flauros posted... Thats what i was wondering. His response was curious at best --- sig <cite>Dathrowed1 posted [p:960828749] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>Flauros posted... </cite> <quote>Thats what i was wondering.</quote>His response was curious at best </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/12/21 3:10:03 AM #93:	BilalPowell posted... Just get rid of all gender barriers in sports. 1 league for all genders the best of the best. If you're not good enough do something else. This would just eliminate women's sports "male" sports have no barriers. Women are allowed to compete in them none of them can compare to the top male athletes If you watch the NBA you're watching " 1 league for all genders and the best of the best " already All you're doing is calling for the end of the WNBA --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:960841152] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>BilalPowell posted... </cite> <quote>Just get rid of all gender barriers in sports. 1 league for all genders the best of the best. If you're not good enough do something else.</quote>This would just eliminate women's sports "male" sports have no barriers. Women are allowed to compete in them none of them can compare to the top male athletes If you watch the NBA you're watching " 1 league for all genders and the best of the best " already All you're doing is calling for the end of the WNBA </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 12/12/21 3:20:33 AM #94:	No one cries when cis athletes are nigh unbeatable, but a person is born trans and suddenly it's a problem when they here and there dominate at high school or college sports. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:960841253] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>No one cries when cis athletes are nigh unbeatable, but a person is born trans and suddenly it's a problem when they here and there dominate at high school or college sports. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/12/21 5:29:41 AM #95:	hockeybub89 posted... No one cries when cis athletes are nigh unbeatable, but a person is born trans and suddenly it's a problem when they here and there dominate at high school or college sports. This is such a bad faith argument --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:960842411] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>No one cries when cis athletes are nigh unbeatable, but a person is born trans and suddenly it's a problem when they here and there dominate at high school or college sports.</quote> This is such a bad faith argument </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 12/12/21 9:31:37 AM #96:	Whered you go, @averagejoel ? <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:960845185] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>Whered you go, @averagejoel ? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 12/12/21 9:45:57 AM #97:	UnfairRepresent posted... This is such a bad faith argument No difference between a naturally better cis and naturally better trans person. Sports manage to find a way to exist and not be destroyed. I just want women to play with women and men to play with men. Just a bunch of people who think trans women are subhuman trash bringing politics into sports. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:960845500] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>This is such a bad faith argument</quote>No difference between a naturally better cis and naturally better trans person. Sports manage to find a way to exist and not be destroyed. I just want women to play with women and men to play with men. Just a bunch of people who think trans women are subhuman trash bringing politics into sports. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BilalPowell 12/12/21 9:49:22 AM #98:	People only complain when trans athletes beat women. Nobody complains when they beat men. Letting trans women compete with cis women would be like letting NFL players compete with high schoolers. --- Former #1 Birmingham Iron Fan. RIP AAF <cite>BilalPowell posted [p:960845566] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>People only complain when trans athletes beat women. Nobody complains when they beat men. Letting trans women compete with cis women would be like letting NFL players compete with high schoolers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 12/12/21 10:41:29 AM #99:	hockeybub89 posted... No difference between a naturally better cis and naturally better trans person. In the men's leagues I agree In the women's leagues which are segregated in the first place because competition against men Is impossible, its not fair to play against biological males Gender is irrelevant, we're talking cold hard biology . Venus Williams dominated tennis but would be effortlessly spanked by any top 300 male player It's not fair to say someone who has the physical advantages of male biology is allowed to compete against someone who doesn't in a professional athletics context Sports manage to find a way to exist and not be destroyed. I just want women to play with women and men to play with men. It's not about existing, it's about being fair If tomorrow the NFL said the Seahawks were allowed 2 extra players, the sport would still exist and they still would lose sometimes it just wouldn't be fair to everyone else and the fans Just a bunch of people who think trans women are subhuman trash bringing politics into sports. Don't support a bad idea just because bigots are awful It's not a zero sum game Sometimes I think people are so eager to oppose the idiots that they lose sight of what they are promoting --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:960846541] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>No difference between a naturally better cis and naturally better trans person.</quote> In the men's leagues I agree In the women's leagues which are segregated in the first place because competition against men Is impossible, its not fair to play against biological males Gender is irrelevant, we're talking cold hard biology . Venus Williams dominated tennis but would be effortlessly spanked by any top 300 male player It's not fair to say someone who has the physical advantages of male biology is allowed to compete against someone who doesn't in a professional athletics context <quote>Sports manage to find a way to exist and not be destroyed. I just want women to play with women and men to play with men.</quote> It's not about existing, it's about being fair If tomorrow the NFL said the Seahawks were allowed 2 extra players, the sport would still exist and they still would lose sometimes it just wouldn't be fair to everyone else and the fans <quote> Just a bunch of people who think trans women are subhuman trash bringing politics into sports.</quote> Don't support a bad idea just because bigots are awful It's not a zero sum game Sometimes I think people are so eager to oppose the idiots that they lose sight of what they are promoting </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Returning_CEmen 12/12/21 11:09:10 AM #100:	She is so brave. Hopefully this inspires more people --- Genius, Thousandaire, Playboy, Philanthropist <cite>Returning_CEmen posted [p:960847157] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>She is so brave. Hopefully this inspires more people </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 12/12/21 11:18:19 AM #101:	UnfairRepresent posted... Don't support a bad idea just because bigots are awful It's not a zero sum game Sometimes I think people are so eager to oppose the idiots that they lose sight of what they are promoting Women playing women's sports is not a bad idea. All biological women should play women's sports, not just most. Would you say the Williams sisters should have gotten spanked in men's sports since their tennis dominance was unfair to other female athletes? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:960847361] in Trans swim... [t:79801311]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Don't support a bad idea just because bigots are awful It's not a zero sum game Sometimes I think people are so eager to oppose the idiots that they lose sight of what they are promoting</quote>Women playing women's sports is not a bad idea. All biological women should play women's sports, not just most. Would you say the Williams sisters should have gotten spanked in men's sports since their tennis dominance was unfair to other female athletes? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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