Poll of the Day > Final Fantasy 7: Remake finally coming to PC next Week...

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pionear 12/10/21 9:22:37 AM #1:	https://finance.yahoo.com/news/good-news-final-fantasy-7-021000030.html Dec.16th... Not really mentioned, but why are they skipping Steam? I guess Epic is giving them a **load of $$$ for exclusive rights <cite>pionear posted [p:960789598] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>https://finance.yahoo.com/news/good-news-final-fantasy-7-021000030.html Dec.16th... Not really mentioned, but why are they skipping Steam? I guess Epic is giving them a **load of $$$ for exclusive rights </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainStrong 12/10/21 9:29:55 AM #2:	Only on the Epic Games Store. Oh well. Not a big loss to me. I played the demo when it came out on PS4 and didn't like it. <cite>CaptainStrong posted [p:960789756] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>Only on the Epic Games Store. Oh well. Not a big loss to me. I played the demo when it came out on PS4 and didn't like it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 12/10/21 9:38:17 AM #3:	pionear posted... https://finance.yahoo.com/news/good-news-final-fantasy-7-021000030.html Dec.16th... Not really mentioned, but why are they skipping Steam? I guess Epic is giving them a **load of $$$ for exclusive rights They're usually a year for the exclusive rights. Still bullshit anyway. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:960789924] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>pionear posted...</cite> <quote>https://finance.yahoo.com/news/good-news-final-fantasy-7-021000030.html Dec.16th... Not really mentioned, but why are they skipping Steam? I guess Epic is giving them a **load of $$$ for exclusive rights </quote> They're usually a year for the exclusive rights. Still bullshit anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 12/10/21 9:39:45 AM #4:	CaptainStrong posted... Only on the Epic Games Store. Oh well. Not a big loss to me. I played the demo when it came out on PS4 and didn't like it. Probably just a 6 month - 1 year exclusivity deal, similar to most games that are "only Epic". Although given what Square thinks about PC gaming I wouldn't be surprised if it is permanent. --- After 16 years, I have decided my signature will NOT be about my job! But I still don't know what to put here so...yea... <cite>Dikitain posted [p:960789954] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>CaptainStrong posted... </cite> <quote>Only on the Epic Games Store. Oh well. Not a big loss to me. I played the demo when it came out on PS4 and didn't like it.</quote>Probably just a 6 month - 1 year exclusivity deal, similar to most games that are "only Epic". Although given what Square thinks about PC gaming I wouldn't be surprised if it is permanent. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veedrock- 12/10/21 9:44:44 AM #5:	Playstation exclusivity = Cool man Epic exclusivity = douchebag --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:960790040] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>Playstation exclusivity = Cool man Epic exclusivity = douchebag </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 12/10/21 9:46:13 AM #6:	Veedrock- posted... Playstation exclusivity = Cool man Epic exclusivity = douchebag Nobody makes games for the Playstation anymore. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:960790072] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>Veedrock- posted...</cite> <quote>Playstation exclusivity = Cool man Epic exclusivity = douchebag </quote> Nobody makes games for the Playstation anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 12/10/21 9:48:21 AM #7:	Veedrock- posted... Playstation exclusivity = Cool man Epic exclusivity = douchebag More like any exclusivity = douchebag. The difference is Sony and Square Enix are both Japanese companies, so them being douchebags is expected, especially if it is mutually benefitial. --- After 16 years, I have decided my signature will NOT be about my job! But I still don't know what to put here so...yea... <cite>Dikitain posted [p:960790116] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>Veedrock- posted... </cite> <quote>Playstation exclusivity = Cool man Epic exclusivity = douchebag </quote>More like any exclusivity = douchebag. The difference is Sony and Square Enix are both Japanese companies, so them being douchebags is expected, especially if it is mutually benefitial. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 12/10/21 9:52:56 AM #8:	Not coming to PC for me. Veedrock- posted... Playstation exclusivity = Cool man Epic exclusivity = douchebag I bought a PS3 for 2 games back in.... 2015? I think? Both games eventually got ported to PC... DRM free. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:960790210] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>Not coming to PC for me. Veedrock- posted... </cite> <quote>Playstation exclusivity = Cool man Epic exclusivity = douchebag </quote> I bought a PS3 for 2 games back in.... 2015? I think? Both games eventually got ported to PC... DRM free. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainStrong 12/10/21 10:03:56 AM #9:	Veedrock- posted... Playstation exclusivity = Cool man Epic exclusivity = douchebag Who said that? I don't like any exclusivity. Especially when it's a game made by a third party. Dikitain posted... Probably just a 6 month - 1 year exclusivity deal, similar to most games that are "only Epic". Although given what Square thinks about PC gaming I wouldn't be surprised if it is permanent. I'm guessing it'll be a year. All the Kingdom Hearts games came to the Epic Games Store in March and is still exclusive to it on PC. <cite>CaptainStrong posted [p:960790459] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>Veedrock- posted... </cite> <quote>Playstation exclusivity = Cool man Epic exclusivity = douchebag </quote>Who said that? I don't like any exclusivity. Especially when it's a game made by a third party. Dikitain posted... </cite> <quote>Probably just a 6 month - 1 year exclusivity deal, similar to most games that are "only Epic". Although given what Square thinks about PC gaming I wouldn't be surprised if it is permanent.</quote>I'm guessing it'll be a year. All the Kingdom Hearts games came to the Epic Games Store in March and is still exclusive to it on PC. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chelsea_wtf 12/10/21 5:07:56 PM #10:	steam is a monopoly that sucks a huge % of revenue out of like 90% of PC sales. exclusivity deals are one of the only ways to cut into their enormous market share and they help support developers. the amount of rage ppl have about it is a great example of how video games rot people's brains --- if thine enemy oppresseth you, you must let them oppress you some more <cite>chelsea_wtf posted [p:960801757] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>steam is a monopoly that sucks a huge % of revenue out of like 90% of PC sales. exclusivity deals are one of the only ways to cut into their enormous market share and they help support developers. the amount of rage ppl have about it is a great example of how video games rot people's brains </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krow_Incarnate 12/10/21 5:58:20 PM #11:	chelsea_wtf posted... steam is a monopoly that sucks a huge % of revenue out of like 90% of PC sales. exclusivity deals are one of the only ways to cut into their enormous market share and they help support developers. the amount of rage ppl have about it is a great example of how video games rot people's brains ^ 100% --- Hail Hydra <cite>Krow_Incarnate posted [p:960803293] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>chelsea_wtf posted... </cite> <quote>steam is a monopoly that sucks a huge % of revenue out of like 90% of PC sales. exclusivity deals are one of the only ways to cut into their enormous market share and they help support developers. the amount of rage ppl have about it is a great example of how video games rot people's brains</quote>^ 100% </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 12/10/21 10:59:08 PM #12:	Nah that's all false. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:960810983] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>Nah that's all false.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monopoman 12/11/21 1:33:45 AM #13:	pionear posted... https://finance.yahoo.com/news/good-news-final-fantasy-7-021000030.html Dec.16th... Not really mentioned, but why are they skipping Steam? I guess Epic is giving them a **load of $$$ for exclusive rights Well the entire Kingdom Heart's franchise came to Epic first also. Every single game in that series came out on the same day all on Epic. <cite>Monopoman posted [p:960813652] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>pionear posted... </cite> <quote>https://finance.yahoo.com/news/good-news-final-fantasy-7-021000030.html Dec.16th... Not really mentioned, but why are they skipping Steam? I guess Epic is giving them a **load of $$$ for exclusive rights</quote> Well the entire Kingdom Heart's franchise came to Epic first also. Every single game in that series came out on the same day all on Epic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 12/11/21 7:53:55 AM #14:	Not even interested in the remake after all the changes they made, let alone the next two parts over the next decade or more. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:960817144] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>Not even interested in the remake after all the changes they made, let alone the next two parts over the next decade or more.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeUsername529 12/11/21 8:56:22 AM #15:	Can someone explain the brain poison of how the game going to Epic is bad? Is it literally just that people want all their games to launch from Steam? <cite>SomeUsername529 posted [p:960817807] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>Can someone explain the brain poison of how the game going to Epic is bad? Is it literally just that people want all their games to launch from Steam? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 12/11/21 9:12:34 AM #16:	SomeUsername529 posted... Can someone explain the brain poison of how the game going to Epic is bad? Is it literally just that people want all their games to launch from Steam? I haven't used Windows in years and it's basically incompatibile with how I use the computer. Linux support for Steam is top notch. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:960818024] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>SomeUsername529 posted... </cite> <quote>Can someone explain the brain poison of how the game going to Epic is bad? Is it literally just that people want all their games to launch from Steam?</quote>I haven't used Windows in years and it's basically incompatibile with how I use the computer. Linux support for Steam is top notch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainStrong 12/11/21 9:28:12 AM #17:	SomeUsername529 posted... Can someone explain the brain poison of how the game going to Epic is bad? Is it literally just that people want all their games to launch from Steam? Epic Games Store is still missing features that Steam has (and is getting them about a decade after Steam got them) and doesn't have the lack of DRM that GOG has to make up for it. I don't like their tactic to get people on their platform of buying exclusivity rather than providing a better product than the competition. I have Steam, Origin, GOG Galaxy, and Battle.net. I don't want even more game launchers hogging system resources. <cite>CaptainStrong posted [p:960818228] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>SomeUsername529 posted... </cite> <quote>Can someone explain the brain poison of how the game going to Epic is bad? Is it literally just that people want all their games to launch from Steam?</quote>Epic Games Store is still missing features that Steam has (and is getting them about a decade after Steam got them) and doesn't have the lack of DRM that GOG has to make up for it. I don't like their tactic to get people on their platform of buying exclusivity rather than providing a better product than the competition. I have Steam, Origin, GOG Galaxy, and Battle.net. I don't want even more game launchers hogging system resources. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 12/11/21 9:32:06 AM #18:	SomeUsername529 posted... Can someone explain the brain poison of how the game going to Epic is bad? Is it literally just that people want all their games to launch from Steam? CaptainStrong posted... I don't like any exclusivity --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:960818266] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>SomeUsername529 posted...</cite> <quote>Can someone explain the brain poison of how the game going to Epic is bad? Is it literally just that people want all their games to launch from Steam? </quote> CaptainStrong posted...</cite> <quote> I don't like any exclusivity</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veedrock- 12/11/21 7:20:48 PM #19:	CaptainStrong posted... I don't like their tactic to get people on their platform of buying exclusivity rather than providing a better product than the competition They provide the better product for publishers. CaptainStrong posted... I have Steam, Origin, GOG Galaxy, and Battle.net. I don't want even more game launchers hogging system resources. And one sentence later you're admitting it's not even about the product. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:960831586] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>CaptainStrong posted... </cite> <quote>I don't like their tactic to get people on their platform of buying exclusivity rather than providing a better product than the competition</quote>They provide the better product for publishers. CaptainStrong posted... </cite> <quote>I have Steam, Origin, GOG Galaxy, and Battle.net. I don't want even more game launchers hogging system resources.</quote>And one sentence later you're admitting it's not even about the product. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 12/11/21 10:03:44 PM #20:	I have it on PS4 but I'd love it on steam if my laptop could run it. I can't afford a PS5 anytime in the near future. --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:960835240] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>I have it on PS4 but I'd love it on steam if my laptop could run it. I can't afford a PS5 anytime in the near future. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 12/11/21 11:33:15 PM #21:	Veedrock- posted... They provide the better product for publishers. The better product for gamers winds up on Steam eventually anyway. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:960837219] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>Veedrock- posted...</cite> <quote>They provide the better product for publishers. </quote> The better product for gamers winds up on Steam eventually anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeUsername529 12/12/21 12:35:14 AM #22:	CaptainStrong posted... Epic Games Store is still missing features that Steam has (and is getting them about a decade after Steam got them) and doesn't have the lack of DRM that GOG has to make up for it. I don't like their tactic to get people on their platform of buying exclusivity rather than providing a better product than the competition. I have Steam, Origin, GOG Galaxy, and Battle.net. I don't want even more game launchers hogging system resources. So it's exactly what I thought. <cite>SomeUsername529 posted [p:960838716] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>CaptainStrong posted... </cite> <quote>Epic Games Store is still missing features that Steam has (and is getting them about a decade after Steam got them) and doesn't have the lack of DRM that GOG has to make up for it. I don't like their tactic to get people on their platform of buying exclusivity rather than providing a better product than the competition. I have Steam, Origin, GOG Galaxy, and Battle.net. I don't want even more game launchers hogging system resources.</quote>So it's exactly what I thought. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sveksii 12/12/21 2:22:59 AM #23:	SomeUsername529 posted... So it's exactly what I thought. So you thought they don't want to use Epic because it doesn't provide the features they want/need that Steam actually provides? <cite>sveksii posted [p:960840621] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>SomeUsername529 posted... </cite> <quote>So it's exactly what I thought.</quote>So you thought they don't want to use Epic because it doesn't provide the features they want/need that Steam actually provides? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
funkyfritter 12/12/21 2:36:13 AM #24:	SomeUsername529 posted... Can someone explain the brain poison of how the game going to Epic is bad? Is it literally just that people want all their games to launch from Steam? Because exclusivity is bad. I much prefer when games release on multiple platforms simultaneously and consumers can choose where to buy it. --- And with that...pow! I'm gone! <cite>funkyfritter posted [p:960840784] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>SomeUsername529 posted... </cite> <quote>Can someone explain the brain poison of how the game going to Epic is bad? Is it literally just that people want all their games to launch from Steam?</quote>Because exclusivity is bad. I much prefer when games release on multiple platforms simultaneously and consumers can choose where to buy it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_SilverX 12/12/21 2:44:56 AM #25:	It still playable on PC. Very good news. --- Let's go Brandon! don't compare games to feces -- if you've an opinion worth mentioning, do so civilly <cite>Dark_SilverX posted [p:960840886] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>It still playable on PC. Very good news. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 12/12/21 3:12:41 AM #26:	I only use steam and sometimes GoG, for old games Guess I won't play it. Maybe if I end up getting a ps5 later..... But I don't like using Epic <cite>Zikten posted [p:960841175] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>I only use steam and sometimes GoG, for old games Guess I won't play it. Maybe if I end up getting a ps5 later..... But I don't like using Epic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 12/12/21 5:13:46 AM #27:	SomeUsername529 posted... So it's exactly what I thought. Apparently not. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:960842285] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>SomeUsername529 posted...</cite> <quote> So it's exactly what I thought. </quote> Apparently not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeUsername529 12/12/21 7:09:27 AM #28:	sveksii posted... So you thought they don't want to use Epic because it doesn't provide the features they want/need that Steam actually provides? Since that's just cope for "wah wah, I want Steam. Epic is different so it's literally unusuable. Wah wah" it is exactly what I thought. Revelation34 posted... Apparently not. Nah. You're dumb. <cite>SomeUsername529 posted [p:960843205] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>sveksii posted... </cite> <quote>So you thought they don't want to use Epic because it doesn't provide the features they want/need that Steam actually provides?</quote>Since that's just cope for "wah wah, I want Steam. Epic is different so it's literally unusuable. Wah wah" it is exactly what I thought. Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>Apparently not.</quote>Nah. You're dumb. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 12/12/21 9:30:27 AM #29:	SomeUsername529 posted... Since that's just cope for "wah wah, I want Steam. Epic is different so it's literally unusuable. Wah wah" it is exactly what I thought. Nah. You're dumb. Irony. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:960845162] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>SomeUsername529 posted...</cite> <quote> Since that's just cope for "wah wah, I want Steam. Epic is different so it's literally unusuable. Wah wah" it is exactly what I thought. Nah. You're dumb. </quote> Irony.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainStrong 12/12/21 9:53:52 AM #30:	Veedrock- posted... They provide the better product for publishers. I'm not a publisher, so why should give a fuck? I'm not gonna use a shittier service so poor indie devs Square Enix and Sega can be happier. And is it really better for them? Is the bigger cut of the profits they get really gonna matter when they sell less because it's stuck on a shitty platform lots of people boycott? And one sentence later you're admitting it's not even about the product. No, I'm saying it's one of the reasons. The shitty product and shitty tactics from the company are way bigger reasons why I refuse to use EGS. <cite>CaptainStrong posted [p:960845647] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>Veedrock- posted... </cite> <quote>They provide the better product for publishers.</quote>I'm not a publisher, so why should give a fuck? I'm not gonna use a shittier service so poor indie devs Square Enix and Sega can be happier. And is it really better for them? Is the bigger cut of the profits they get really gonna matter when they sell less because it's stuck on a shitty platform lots of people boycott? <quote>And one sentence later you're admitting it's not even about the product.</quote>No, I'm saying it's one of the reasons. The shitty product and shitty tactics from the company are way bigger reasons why I refuse to use EGS. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 12/12/21 10:04:54 AM #31:	SomeUsername529 posted... Since that's just cope for "wah wah, I want Steam. Epic is different so it's literally unusuable. Wah wah" it is exactly what I thought. It's more that Epic's launcher/store is unambiguously an inferior product. It's usable, certainly, but there's absolutely no reason for it to be as primitive as it is when Steam has had all of its missing features for over a decade. I appreciate that it's generally better for developers, but competing for my business by throwing money around to make Steam temporarily worse instead of trying to offer a comparable service does not endear me to them. I collect the free games whenever I remember them, because I have no reason not to, but I have no intention of spending money there until they commit to providing me with better service. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:960845885] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>SomeUsername529 posted... </cite> <quote>Since that's just cope for "wah wah, I want Steam. Epic is different so it's literally unusuable. Wah wah" it is exactly what I thought.</quote> It's more that Epic's launcher/store is unambiguously an inferior product. It's usable, certainly, but there's absolutely no reason for it to be as primitive as it is when Steam has had all of its missing features for over a decade. I appreciate that it's generally better for developers, but competing for my business by throwing money around to make Steam temporarily worse instead of trying to offer a comparable service does not endear me to them. I collect the free games whenever I remember them, because I have no reason not to, but I have no intention of spending money there until they commit to providing me with better service. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veedrock- 12/12/21 3:49:54 PM #32:	CaptainStrong posted... I'm not a publisher, so why should I give a f*? Your point was Epic wasn't providing a better product, I'm pointing out they do in a way. It doesn't matter who you are in relation to that. CaptainStrong posted... And is it really better for them? Is the bigger cut of the profits they get really gonna matter when they sell less because it's stuck on a sty platform lots of people boycott? If it wasn't a better deal for them they wouldn't do it. You don't know the publishers' business better than them, get over yourself. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:960854193] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>CaptainStrong posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not a publisher, so why should I give a f?</quote>Your point was Epic wasn't providing a better product, I'm pointing out they do in a way. It doesn't matter who you are in relation to that. CaptainStrong posted... </cite> <quote>And is it really better for them? Is the bigger cut of the profits they get really gonna matter when they sell less because it's stuck on a s*ty platform lots of people boycott?</quote>If it wasn't a better deal for them they wouldn't do it. You don't know the publishers' business better than them, get over yourself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainStrong 12/12/21 4:01:07 PM #33:	Veedrock- posted... Your point was Epic wasn't providing a better product, I'm pointing out they do in a way. It doesn't matter who you are in relation to that. If it wasn't a better deal for them they wouldn't do it. You don't know the publishers' business better than them, get over yourself. How's Epic's boot taste? <cite>CaptainStrong posted [p:960854519] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>Veedrock- posted... </cite> <quote>Your point was Epic wasn't providing a better product, I'm pointing out they do in a way. It doesn't matter who you are in relation to that. If it wasn't a better deal for them they wouldn't do it. You don't know the publishers' business better than them, get over yourself.</quote>How's Epic's boot taste? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 12/12/21 4:08:54 PM #34:	Veedrock- posted... Your point was Epic wasn't providing a better product, I'm pointing out they do in a way. It doesn't matter who you are in relation to that. It absolutely matters to him, the customer. You asked why he doesn't like it and tell him he's wrong because publishers like it. The publishers are irrelevant, they're going to sell their game whatever way looks the most profitable. He doesn't like it as he gets a sub-par experience, take the L and move on. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:960854733] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>Veedrock- posted...</cite> <quote>Your point was Epic wasn't providing a better product, I'm pointing out they do in a way. It doesn't matter who you are in relation to that.</quote> It absolutely matters to him, the customer. You asked why he doesn't like it and tell him he's wrong because publishers like it. The publishers are irrelevant, they're going to sell their game whatever way looks the most profitable. He doesn't like it as he gets a sub-par experience, take the L and move on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veedrock- 12/12/21 4:18:17 PM #35:	CaptainStrong posted... How's Epic's boot taste? How's Valve's? You're the one with the loyalty, not me. Kyuubi4269 posted... You asked why he doesn't like it I did not. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:960855007] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>CaptainStrong posted... </cite> <quote>How's Epic's boot taste?</quote>How's Valve's? You're the one with the loyalty, not me. Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite> <quote>You asked why he doesn't like it</quote>I did not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zedonra 12/12/21 4:19:45 PM #36:	Please no DRM =^)) --- Playing: TotA; ToV: DE, SM Odyssey, MH:R, MHW: IB \| MR329+/HR 561+ \| LS/CB/GS/BOW "The imagination is a weapon, those who don't use it, die first" <cite>Zedonra posted [p:960855047] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>Please no DRM =^)) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpeedDemon20 12/12/21 4:51:20 PM #37:	A lot of people aren't publishers. EGS is garbage for a lot of people. --- http://orig14.deviantart.net/59f8/f/2009/047/4/9/rylai_crestfall_by_eyue.jpg Crystal Maiden... gal could break your heart in a thousand pieces. -Rucks <cite>SpeedDemon20 posted [p:960855939] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>A lot of people aren't publishers. EGS is garbage for a lot of people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 12/12/21 10:07:22 PM #38:	Veedrock- posted... Your point was Epic wasn't providing a better product, I'm pointing out they do in a way. It doesn't matter who you are in relation to that. If I'm in the market for a car, a company making a better cheese knife is going to change absolutely nothing about my purchasing decisions. If the cheese knife company decides to start buying up car schematics and making crappy knock-offs instead of letting established companies use their schematics to make and sell me a car, I'm going to be bothered by that. Veedrock- posted... If it wasn't a better deal for them they wouldn't do it. You don't know the publishers' business better than them, get over yourself. It probably is a better deal for them, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:960864634] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>Veedrock- posted... </cite> <quote>Your point was Epic wasn't providing a better product, I'm pointing out they do in a way. It doesn't matter who you are in relation to that.</quote> If I'm in the market for a car, a company making a better cheese knife is going to change absolutely nothing about my purchasing decisions. If the cheese knife company decides to start buying up car schematics and making crappy knock-offs instead of letting established companies use their schematics to make and sell me a car, I'm going to be bothered by that. Veedrock- posted... </cite> <quote>If it wasn't a better deal for them they wouldn't do it. You don't know the publishers' business better than them, get over yourself.</quote> It probably is a better deal for them, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veedrock- 12/13/21 7:40:19 AM #39:	adjl posted... If the cheese knife company decides to start buying up car schematics and making crappy knock-offs instead of letting established companies use their schematics to make and sell me a car, I'm going to be bothered by that. False equivalency. Epic isn't selling knockoffs, it's selling the genuine item. adjl posted... It probably is a better deal for them, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. Let me clarify: I'm not telling anybody to like it. My statement was to counter the notion that Epic hasn't done anything to "deserve" exclusives. It's been three years, yet Valve hasn't changed their policies to remain competitive. By all accounts Valve is letting this happen, but somehow they escape criticism and Epic is the bad guy. It's ass backwards. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:960872681] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>If the cheese knife company decides to start buying up car schematics and making crappy knock-offs instead of letting established companies use their schematics to make and sell me a car, I'm going to be bothered by that.</quote>False equivalency. Epic isn't selling knockoffs, it's selling the genuine item. adjl posted... </cite> <quote>It probably is a better deal for them, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.</quote>Let me clarify: I'm not telling anybody to like it. My statement was to counter the notion that Epic hasn't done anything to "deserve" exclusives. It's been three years, yet Valve hasn't changed their policies to remain competitive. By all accounts Valve is letting this happen, but somehow they escape criticism and Epic is the bad guy. It's ass backwards. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 12/13/21 8:08:43 AM #40:	Veedrock- posted... It's been three years, yet Valve hasn't changed their policies to remain competitive. By all accounts Valve is letting this happen, but somehow they escape criticism and Epic is the bad guy. It's ass backwards. Because Valve has the superior product (for AAA games at least). And they have done stuff, they added features, they increased Mac and Linux support, etc. Plus, they get plenty of criticism, did you hear how much people complained when they changed the look and feel of their launcher? But by and large the pros outweigh the cons. Epic is doing policies that would have worked back in the days when people could only afford to buy maybe 1-2 games a year. Now a platform isn't defined by what games it has, it is defined by what features it has. Epic doesn't have features that appeal to me, and if they did I might consider supporting them. Otherwise them buying up exclusives to force me to use them just makes them assholes. --- After 16 years, I have decided my signature will NOT be about my job! But I still don't know what to put here so...yea... <cite>Dikitain posted [p:960873013] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>Veedrock- posted... </cite> <quote>It's been three years, yet Valve hasn't changed their policies to remain competitive. By all accounts Valve is letting this happen, but somehow they escape criticism and Epic is the bad guy. It's ass backwards.</quote> Because Valve has the superior product (for AAA games at least). And they have done stuff, they added features, they increased Mac and Linux support, etc. Plus, they get plenty of criticism, did you hear how much people complained when they changed the look and feel of their launcher? But by and large the pros outweigh the cons. Epic is doing policies that would have worked back in the days when people could only afford to buy maybe 1-2 games a year. Now a platform isn't defined by what games it has, it is defined by what features it has. Epic doesn't have features that appeal to me, and if they did I might consider supporting them. Otherwise them buying up exclusives to force me to use them just makes them assholes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Decoy77 12/13/21 9:54:22 AM #41:	If it's cracked I see many people sailing the high seas for 2 reasons. 1 because of their new PC sales price point and 2. EPIC Store only release(for now anyways) --- 5-27-15 The day Gfaqs died i7 10700k \| MSI MAG Z490 TOMAHAWK \| EVGA RTX 2070 SUPER \| CORSAIR 32GB RAM \| LG 27'' 144hz @1440p \| Win10 x64 <cite>Decoy77 posted [p:960874730] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>If it's cracked I see many people sailing the high seas for 2 reasons. 1 because of their new PC sales price point and 2. EPIC Store only release(for now anyways) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 12/13/21 9:55:23 AM #42:	Veedrock- posted... False equivalency. Epic isn't selling knockoffs, it's selling the genuine item. Is that why Darkest Dungeon 2 is in early access on Epic games and will be out of it by the time it gets on Steam? Veedrock- posted... that Epic hasn't done anything to "deserve" exclusives. They haven't. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:960874748] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>Veedrock- posted...</cite> <quote>False equivalency. Epic isn't selling knockoffs, it's selling the genuine item.</quote> Is that why Darkest Dungeon 2 is in early access on Epic games and will be out of it by the time it gets on Steam? Veedrock- posted...</cite> <quote>that Epic hasn't done anything to "deserve" exclusives.</quote> They haven't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pionear 12/13/21 1:29:23 PM #43:	Jen0125 posted... I have it on PS4 but I'd love it on steam if my laptop could run it. I can't afford a PS5 anytime in the near future. Hell, many can't even find one...anytime soon <cite>pionear posted [p:960879534] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted... </cite> <quote>I have it on PS4 but I'd love it on steam if my laptop could run it. I can't afford a PS5 anytime in the near future.</quote> Hell, many can't even find one...anytime soon </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 12/13/21 2:32:02 PM #44:	Veedrock- posted... It's been three years, yet Valve hasn't changed their policies to remain competitive. By all accounts Valve is letting this happen, but somehow they escape criticism and Epic is the bad guy. It's ass backwards. Buying exclusives isn't competition. Steam isn't competing as nobody is offering something that challenges their market, there's no competition with their model. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:960881189] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>Veedrock- posted...</cite> <quote>It's been three years, yet Valve hasn't changed their policies to remain competitive. By all accounts Valve is letting this happen, but somehow they escape criticism and Epic is the bad guy. It's ass backwards.</quote> Buying exclusives isn't competition. Steam isn't competing as nobody is offering something that challenges their market, there's no competition with their model.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pionear 12/16/21 12:57:55 PM #45:	https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/p/final-fantasy-vii-remake-intergrade $70 Bucks...or maybe wait till Epic give it away Free? <cite>pionear posted [p:960968205] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/p/final-fantasy-vii-remake-intergrade $70 Bucks...or maybe wait till Epic give it away Free? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veedrock- 12/16/21 1:14:46 PM #46:	pionear posted... or maybe wait till Epic give it away Free? Not a bad bet considering it was PS+ as well. --- My friends call me Vee. I'm not your friend, buddy. <cite>Veedrock- posted [p:960968639] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>pionear posted... </cite> <quote>or maybe wait till Epic give it away Free?</quote>Not a bad bet considering it was PS+ as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 12/16/21 2:42:18 PM #47:	Veedrock- posted... False equivalency. Epic isn't selling knockoffs, it's selling the genuine item. It's not the best analogy, but the argument can be made that the launcher is part of the experience of playing the game. While "genuine" is a bit of an odd term to apply here, you can definitely say that Epic is providing an inferior version. Veedrock- posted... Let me clarify: I'm not telling anybody to like it. My statement was to counter the notion that Epic hasn't done anything to "deserve" exclusives. I mean, nobody ever "deserves" exclusives unless they develop them personally, but that's beside the point. The question is not whether they deserve exclusives, it's whether they deserve my business. Veedrock- posted... It's been three years, yet Valve hasn't changed their policies to remain competitive. By all accounts Valve is letting this happen, but somehow they escape criticism and Epic is the bad guy. It's ass backwards. Because in three years, Valve hasn't lost enough business to Epic for them to need to make any changes to remain competitive. Yes, Epic is the bad guy, because they've done such a poor job of competing that they haven't managed to motivate Valve to do any better. To be clear, I don't mind competition for Steam. In fact, I think competition is a good thing, since there's plenty of room for Steam to improve, but Valve has little incentive to really invest in doing so because of their monopoly. That competition needs to involve providing a better service, though. "Competing" by forcibly depriving competitors of what would otherwise be shared products while providing an inferior service doesn't give those competitors any way to improve except to outbid Epic for exclusives, and that's just a whole bunch of money thrown around in a way that doesn't help consumers at all. In a nutshell: Competing by providing a better service=good for consumers. Competing by forcing your competitors to provide a worse service=bad for consumers. Epic is overwhelmingly doing the latter, which is a real shame because they've got a lot of potential to shake up the market in favour of developers with their more favourable revenue split. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:960970858] in Final Fant... [t:79803886]...</cite> <quote>Veedrock- posted... </cite> <quote>False equivalency. Epic isn't selling knockoffs, it's selling the genuine item.</quote> It's not the best analogy, but the argument can be made that the launcher is part of the experience of playing the game. While "genuine" is a bit of an odd term to apply here, you can definitely say that Epic is providing an inferior version. Veedrock- posted... </cite> <quote>Let me clarify: I'm not telling anybody to like it. My statement was to counter the notion that Epic hasn't done anything to "deserve" exclusives.</quote> I mean, nobody ever "deserves" exclusives unless they develop them personally, but that's beside the point. The question is not whether they deserve exclusives, it's whether they deserve my business. Veedrock- posted... </cite> <quote>It's been three years, yet Valve hasn't changed their policies to remain competitive. By all accounts Valve is letting this happen, but somehow they escape criticism and Epic is the bad guy. It's ass backwards.</quote> Because in three years, Valve hasn't lost enough business to Epic for them to need to make any changes to remain competitive. Yes, Epic is the bad guy, because they've done such a poor job of competing that they haven't managed to motivate Valve to do any better. To be clear, I don't mind competition for Steam. In fact, I think competition is a good thing, since there's plenty of room for Steam to improve, but Valve has little incentive to really invest in doing so because of their monopoly. That competition needs to involve providing a better service, though. "Competing" by forcibly depriving competitors of what would otherwise be shared products while providing an inferior service doesn't give those competitors any way to improve except to outbid Epic for exclusives, and that's just a whole bunch of money thrown around in a way that doesn't help consumers at all. In a nutshell: Competing by providing a better service=good for consumers. Competing by forcing your competitors to provide a worse service=bad for consumers. Epic is overwhelmingly doing the latter, which is a real shame because they've got a lot of potential to shake up the market in favour of developers with their more favourable revenue split. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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