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KamenRiderBlade
12/15/21 10:00:06 PM
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'Heard explosion, silence, cries. A war scene below.'
https://www.autoblog.com/2021/12/15/tesla-paris-crash/
PARIS The off-duty taxi driver who crashed a Tesla Model 3 in Paris on Saturday night plowed through metal posts, a row of pay-to-ride bicycles, a recycling bin full of glass and hit pedestrians and a van before finally coming to a halt, witnesses said.
Tillard Diomande was serving clients from behind his bar in the Moonlight African restaurant when the Tesla careened past. When he stepped outside, he said it was carnage.
"I thought it was an attack. There was glass, dust ... it was as if there had been a blast," Diomande told Reuters.
One person was killed, three were seriously hurt and another 17 injured in the accident in the 13th arrondissement of the capital on a street lined with bars, restaurants and shops.
A judicial source said that an investigation into involuntary homicide by the driver had been opened.
"Heard explosion, silence, cries. A war scene below. Very, very shocking," a teacher who lives in an apartment above the crash site told Reuters via Twitter.
CCTV video footage from inside the nearby Sarawan restaurant shows a black car racing down Avenue d'Ivry at high speed, followed by a loud crash a couple of seconds later.
Diners turn their heads and in the direction the car was traveling. One woman puts a hand over her mouth, another clasps her hands to her chest and people outside run towards the crash.
G7 Deputy Chief Executive Yann Ricordel told Reuters the accident occurred while an off-duty taxi driver was taking his family to a restaurant. The driver tried to brake but the car accelerated instead, Ricordel said.
A police source told Reuters that the car, which had stopped at a red traffic light, suddenly sped forward, hitting and dragging with it a cyclist who later died.
It was not clear whether the car was operating in Tesla's Autopilot mode, which handles some driving tasks. The driver tested negative in an alcohol test, the police source said.
The driver told investigators he had deliberately steered the car into objects to bring it to a halt.
Tesla did not respond to requests for comment.
French government spokesman Gabriel Attal told a news conference that Tesla had informed the government there was no immediate indication that a technical fault was to blame.
"We have been in contact, of course, with Tesla's management and they tell us that there is no technical problem to flag on their vehicles," government spokesman Gabriel Attal told reporters.
Transport Minister Jean-Baptiste Djebbari told RMC radio that he had spoken with the chief executive of Tesla Europe, who told him there had been no safety alerts about the Model 3.
He added that the automaker, which collects detailed data from the sensors and cameras on its vehicles, notified him that it had provided the relevant technical data to investigators.
Paris taxi company G7 has suspended the use of the 37 Model 3 cars in its fleet after the accident.
Waiter Idris Benlalli witnessed the end of the Tesla's destructive path.
He said the electric car destroyed a rank of hire bicycles and sent a glass recycling bin flying several meters through the air before shards of glass sprayed the area.
The Tesla came to a halt at busy road intersection, its front-left corner crumpled, windscreen shattered and entire left-hand side badly damaged.
Debris lay strewn across the tarmac.
"There were quite a few people on the ground," Benlalli said. "It was chaos."

Yeah, I'll stick with Toyota or Mazda.

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VipaGTS
12/15/21 10:00:47 PM
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lol. Fuck you Elon.

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LordFarquad1312
12/15/21 10:01:14 PM
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Lock Elon up, throw away the key.

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lilORANG
12/15/21 10:02:02 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...
'Heard explosion, silence, cries. A war scene below.'
https://www.autoblog.com/2021/12/15/tesla-paris-crash/

Yeah, I'll stick with Toyota or Mazda.


Uhh, Toyota had a slew of runaway Priuses not too long ago.

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Oh_Boy_
12/15/21 10:13:51 PM
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Electric brakes, so nice. Glad nothing can go wrong with that. Or with a car that tries to drive itself despite not interpretinng data and stimuli very well.
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KamenRiderBlade
12/15/21 10:23:21 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Uhh, Toyota had a slew of runaway Priuses not too long ago.

https://suddenacceleration.com/new-toyota-to-recall-3-8m-vehicles-over-floor-mats/

Those were due to defective floor mats that got stuck underneath the accelerator pedal.

I highly doubt it was the driver that initiated the Tesla to speed from a stand still, past a on-going active red light.

This sounds like a Software/Hardware issue.

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HA4e
12/15/21 10:25:22 PM
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Shut down all the AI!

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KamenRiderBlade
12/15/21 10:27:33 PM
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Oh_Boy_ posted...
Electric brakes, so nice. Glad nothing can go wrong with that. Or with a car that tries to drive itself despite not interpretinng data and stimuli very well.
Or Cosmic Rays flipping bits.

https://www.businessinsider.com/cosmic-rays-harm-computers-smartphones-2019-7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaZ_RSt0KP8

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Ilishe
12/15/21 10:41:21 PM
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Self driving cars

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MrToothHasYou
12/15/21 10:55:15 PM
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https://twitter.com/norareed/status/1470113657623224320?s=21

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KamenRiderBlade
12/15/21 11:03:01 PM
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I'm inclined to believe the driver since his vehicle was stopped behind a red light and it suddenly accelerated from stop and he had to try to veer the vehicle into barriers to stop it.

There was no alcohol, that the police could find.

I'm willing to believe the driver that the car suddenly did weird things that were out of his control.

Given Tesla's recent history with Auto-Pilot, I'm sure Tesla will find an excuse as to why this happened.

G7 Deputy Chief Executive Yann Ricordel told Reuters the accident occurred while an off-duty taxi driver was taking his family to a restaurant. The driver tried to brake but the car accelerated instead, Ricordel said.
A police source told Reuters that the car, which had stopped at a red traffic light, suddenly sped forward, hitting and dragging with it a cyclist who later died.
It was not clear whether the car was operating in Tesla's Autopilot mode, which handles some driving tasks. The driver tested negative in an alcohol test, the police source said.
The driver told investigators he had deliberately steered the car into objects to bring it to a halt.

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lilORANG
12/15/21 11:03:42 PM
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MrToothHasYou posted...
https://twitter.com/norareed/status/1470113657623224320?s=21

That's stupid. People drive badly and you don't see an outrage toward regular cars. But every time there's a Tesla wreck it makes the news bc "AI bad" despite they're being fewer Tesla crashes than crashes with other cars.

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darkprince45
12/15/21 11:06:02 PM
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I want a model 3 but honestly think im gonna get the mach-e instead

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Irony
12/15/21 11:09:06 PM
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TeSlAs SaVe LiVeS

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Kloe_Rinz
12/15/21 11:09:16 PM
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Are you guys sure the driver didnt have both feet on the pedals and was accelerating as well as braking? This is why you only use one foot.
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squall567
12/15/21 11:11:31 PM
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Time to Musk to make an inane tweet to divert from this.

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CableZL
12/15/21 11:14:02 PM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
Are you guys sure the driver didnt have both feet on the pedals and was accelerating as well as braking? This is why you only use one foot.

If you have both pedals depressed, the car brakes. I hope they make the logs public.

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UnholyMudcrab
12/15/21 11:15:39 PM
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Sounds like a job for Time Person of the Year Elon Musk

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armandro
12/15/21 11:16:42 PM
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watch out

CE might label you as (defends billionaire)
you gotta say EAT THE RICH

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David1988
12/15/21 11:21:13 PM
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I think people expect perfection out of self-driving cars for it to be viable and thats just not realistic, if improved self-driving cars lowers the rate of accidents then it would still be a success and preferable to human driving

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iPhone_7
12/15/21 11:23:44 PM
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can we eat you?

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dioxxys
12/16/21 12:24:30 AM
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squall567 posted...
Time to Musk to make an inane tweet to divert from this.
I mean its not personally Elon Musk's fault this happen, its not as though he was negligent.

When any sort of new technology like this comes with danger and no matter how many precautions are taken have inevitable casualties.
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UselessSGrant
12/16/21 12:32:42 AM
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I'm betting that the driver just hit the wrong pedal and is lying in attempt to avoid accountability.
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dioxxys
12/16/21 6:58:35 AM
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UselessSGrant posted...
I'm betting that the driver just hit the wrong pedal and is lying in attempt to avoid accountability.
I doubt it.

You can only hit the gas for so long before realizing you're hitting the wrong pedal. That's like maybe one or two mistakes he could have made, but to hit multiple people, and destroy tons of property also? Makes more sense that he was trying to keep the vehicle from driving by going into stationary things
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Kloe_Rinz
12/16/21 7:00:09 AM
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dioxxys posted...
You can only hit the gas for so long before realizing you're hitting the wrong pedal.
if you're in an emergency you probably arent thinking
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AablMind
12/16/21 7:09:43 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
if you're in an emergency you probably arent thinking
This is dumb as shit lol

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dioxxys
12/16/21 7:12:27 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
if you're in an emergency you probably arent thinking
Not necessarily.

I've made a series of several active choices to avoid an accident
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Jagr_68
12/16/21 7:13:43 AM
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We're living in a Maximum Overdrive timeline.

Elon should be thrown into an African prison.

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KamenRiderBlade
12/16/21 11:28:43 AM
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Bump

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