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Doom_Art 12/27/21 7:24:45 PM #1: |
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2021/12/democrats-are-doing-weirdly-well-in-redistricting.html The new House map is more than half finished. And in many states where maps havent been finalized, the broad outlines are already visible. Taken together, the emerging picture is far more favorable for Democrats than most anticipated. As of this writing, it looks like the new House map will be much less biased in the GOPs favor than the old one. And according to at least one analyst, there is actually an outside chance that the final map will be tilted, ever so slightly, in the Democrats favor. There are a few reasons why things didnt work out as progressive pessimists had feared. One is that contrary to partisan stereotypes Democratic trifectas have arguably mustered more ruthless party discipline in redistricting than Republicans have. Illinois, Oregon, and New York have all pursued aggressive partisan gerrymanders that have subordinated the job security of some incumbents to maximizing the overall number of Democratic-leaning seats. By contrast, Texas Republicans took the opposite approach, opting to fortify their incumbents hold on power, at the cost of leaving 13 Democratic-leaning seats on the map. Meanwhile, many red states have no room to improve on existing gerrymanders. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 12/27/21 7:28:09 PM #2: |
as it should be, considering [people who vote for] democrats are a majority of the population --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Frostshock 12/27/21 7:28:52 PM #3: |
Gerrymandering is good now! --- Got questions about schoolwork? Want to share answers, or discuss your studies? Come to Homework Helpers! http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1060-homework-helpers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 12/27/21 7:29:34 PM #4: |
Frostshock posted... Gerrymandering is good now!I'm not an advocate of unilateral disarmament --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 12/27/21 7:31:00 PM #5: |
Frostshock posted... Gerrymandering is good now!Reminder that democrats introduced a bill to make gerrymandering illegal and create a consistent and fair standard for drawing maps, and republicans opposed it sidenote: gerrymandering in this case is creating representative democracy --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gwynevere 12/27/21 7:34:08 PM #7: |
Frostshock posted... Gerrymandering is good now!When the opposition is attempting to strip voting rights from as many people as possible, I'm totally fine with Democrats doing whatever they gotta do to even the odds Besides, as mentioned before, Republicans voted to keep gerrymandering alive. It was actually a thing on the ballot in Missouri in either 18 or 20 Here it is, actually: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/missouri-amendment-3-passed-what-does-mean-redistricting --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 12/27/21 7:40:16 PM #8: |
Doom_Art posted... progressive pessimistsJournos gotta find a way to jab them in every article --- https://i.imgur.com/u5kY6Yt.gif https://i.imgur.com/V6HBhkR.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 12/27/21 7:46:37 PM #10: |
Doe posted... Journos gotta find a way to jab them in every articleYeah not exclusive to progressives Everyone on the left/centre-left has been miserable since last November about this --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 12/27/21 7:51:16 PM #11: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] According to the article, Democrats have just decided to catch up to Republicans. Part of why they appear to be losing ground is that they had already completely gerrymandered their own states. --- https://i.imgur.com/u5kY6Yt.gif https://i.imgur.com/V6HBhkR.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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David1988 12/27/21 7:52:53 PM #13: |
Good, the more Democrats in office the better for American lives, they are the only politicians that works hard for the working class, I would take more Democrats even if it means gerrymandering a little. --- "Let's be honest...I'm everybody's type. I just gotta highlight the parts that appeal to her the most" - No_U_L7 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheHoldSteady 12/27/21 8:00:50 PM #16: |
Frostshock posted... Gerrymandering is good now! Idc anymore. The Republicans play dirty so Democrats should do the same. --- If she says we partied, then I'm pretty sure we partied. I really don't remember. I remember we departed from our bodies. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 12/27/21 8:04:38 PM #17: |
WTF we LOVE gerrymandering now! --- Oda break tracker 2021- 9 (5) | THE Ohio State: 11-2 | Las Vegas Raiders: 8-7 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 12/27/21 8:05:15 PM #18: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] TheGoldenEel posted... Reminder that democrats introduced a bill to make gerrymandering illegal and create a consistent and fair standard for drawing maps, and republicans opposed it --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 12/27/21 8:05:31 PM #19: |
Look, if conservatives won't agree to end gerrymandering I'm not gonna cry if Democrats use it to their advantage There's a really easy solution here --- MSI MEG X570 Unify | Ryzen 7 5800X | 32GB DDR4-3600 | RTX 3080 Samsung Odyssey G7 32" - 1440p, 240hz, GSync ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 12/27/21 8:05:56 PM #20: |
Frostshock posted... Gerrymandering is good now!It's not gerrymandering if it's actually representative of the voting population. That would just make it....accurate. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 12/27/21 8:07:43 PM #21: |
ScazarMeltex posted... It's not gerrymandering if it's actually representative of the voting population. That would just make it....accurate.Dude, an equal playing field is MASSIVELY unfair to Republicans. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prestoff 12/27/21 8:09:13 PM #22: |
Both use gerry mandering to their advantage, but there's more than enough evidence to show that Republicans are on the majority benefitting from it the most. --- DI MOLTO! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gwynevere 12/27/21 8:10:02 PM #24: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] It's so transparent when people say shit like this. Republicans have spent the last few decades absolutely mangling electoral maps into an abstract art piece, and as soon as Democrats start to clean up the mess you immediately hear people crying about Democrats cheating and gerrymandering Shameless --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iPhone_7 12/27/21 8:12:49 PM #26: |
Is this good news for already blue states or is it affecting red counties in red states? I hope its the latter --- Sig User Logic http://i.imgur.com/lA5fm7w.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 12/27/21 8:22:47 PM #28: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] You do realize that in this case "comes out ahead in the corrupt system" literally means "when we fix the corrupt system in place the corruption starts clearing out?" --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 12/27/21 8:30:21 PM #29: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OrangeShirt 12/27/21 8:49:53 PM #30: |
iPhone_7 posted... Is this good news for already blue states or is it affecting red counties in red states? I hope its the latter Yes, the Democrats, in states where they don't have power, are redistricting to impact the Republicans who have control. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 12/27/21 8:55:11 PM #31: |
OrangeShirt posted... Yes, the Democrats, in states where they don't have power, are redistricting to impact the Republicans who have control.Yes, shitposting alt, you've cracked the case. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 12/27/21 9:14:41 PM #32: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] More like breathing a huge fucking sigh of relief that finally the side that wants cheating in the first place, isnt winning for once --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zero_Destroyer 12/27/21 9:22:16 PM #33: |
Not really sure what @Mr_Hangman wants here. There's two operational choices in the political system to end gerrymandering; one party has explicitly made gerrymandering a common political strategy. Democrats acted more on a state-to-state basis with this before, but have fully weaponized it now. If Democrats don't weaponize it they will lose any control they have in the government and never be able to eliminate it by playing nice. The alternative is a short-term gerrymander and then to push through anti-gerrymandering legislation before 2030. One can reasonably argue Democrats will find an excuse not to do it, but the logical chain here makes sense and is pretty typical political strategizing. --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExtremeLuchador 12/27/21 9:30:10 PM #34: |
GOP pretty much has the house majority in 2022 locked up because re-districting gave them more safe seats. --- "It was horrible," guard Jeff McInnis said. "I took 100 naps and we were still in the air." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 12/27/21 9:34:14 PM #35: |
Weird how people were so fine when Republicans were doing it and now are pissed when Democrats are fighting fire with fire. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 12/27/21 9:54:35 PM #37: |
ExtremeLuchador posted... GOP pretty much has the house majority in 2022 locked up because re-districting gave them more safe seats.Have you considered the premise of this entire topic --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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marthsheretoo 12/27/21 9:59:05 PM #40: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] We'll see. I remember when I was younger voting for an independent commission to draw our state's districts, knowing it would harm my party, because it was the right thing to do. The measure passed. Since then, Republicans have only gerrymandered harder. So fuck em at this point. Take away their toys, make them sit in the corner, and fix the system without them. And if the system doesn't get fixed, I'll vote the ones who aren't fixing it out too. --- "Even MarthKoopa has jumped on the MarthKoopa hate wagon." -DevsBro ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 12/27/21 9:59:13 PM #41: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Now you're understanding that the American system is fundamentally flawed and trends toward corruption. --- https://i.imgur.com/u5kY6Yt.gif https://i.imgur.com/V6HBhkR.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkChozoGhost 12/27/21 10:05:31 PM #42: |
Can we stop pretending Democrats are "gerrymandering" the districts when they're actually just making previously gerrymandered districts fair instead? --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 12/27/21 10:25:06 PM #44: |
DarkChozoGhost posted... Can we stop pretending Democrats are "gerrymandering" the districts when they're actually just making previously gerrymandered districts fair instead?Tbf Illinois, for example, was heavily gerrymandered for democrats this year EDIT: should note though, Illinois would be blue either way. Anyway as a Wisconsinite, perhaps the worst gerrymandered state in the country, where Biden won yet the GOP has nearly a supermajority in the legislature, I feel particularly strongly about this issue. --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jabodie 12/27/21 10:44:18 PM #46: |
The "high road" seems to have consistently bad strategy from what I know. There is no way to fix a "broken" strategy when half the players have 0 incentive to remove a key, successful strategy they are using. Your choices are losing where you simply don't have to buy forgoing the effective strategies and compromise your or take the strategy for yourself. What is losing "honorably" worth in politics when the voters don't reward you? And losing will not let you remove the strategy from the game? And that type of rhetoric has grown strongly in the left during the Trump/ COVID era, from what I can tell. --- <insert sig here> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 12/27/21 10:48:20 PM #47: |
Jabodie posted... The "high road" seems to have consistently bad strategy from what I know. There is no way to fix a "broken" strategy when half the players have 0 incentive to remove s key, successful strategy they are using. Your choices are losing where you simply don't have to buy forgoing the effective strategies and compromise your or take the strategy for yourself. What is losing "honorably" worth in politics when the voters don't reward you? And losing will not let you remove the strategy from the game?And "losing" has real tangible consequences for minorities and LGBTQ people. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pistachio12 12/27/21 11:41:53 PM #48: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Not like you're really arguing in good faith, but the democrats have passed two bills from the House of Representatives that would eliminate partisan gerrymandering and the current bill supported by Manchin in the senate does the same. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 12/27/21 11:43:38 PM #49: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] It's the Godzilla Threshold. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SuperShake666 12/27/21 11:49:39 PM #50: |
marthsheretoo posted... We'll see. Someone check the temperature in Hell, I agree with a Marth post. --- "Look, if I was good at math, I wouldn't be on CE at 2:00 the morning clicking on topics about porn stars ****ing horses." - May 2017, Dash_Harber ... Copied to Clipboard!
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