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MrMallard
12/31/21 5:29:53 PM
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Never seen the other movies, but I'm planning to. Just wanted to know what makes the movie so bad without spoilers.

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Garioshi
12/31/21 5:33:19 PM
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No Laurence Fishburne or Hugo Weaving, poor pacing, bad action, and some poorly executed concepts. Keanu is not amazing.

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Solid Sonic
12/31/21 5:34:23 PM
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I would say it's better than Revolutions but I feel like the underlying elements of the movie don't create as much thought-provocation as the trilogy. It feels hokey and shallow, although they still try the philosophical angle despite the weaker underpinnings.

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DrizztLink
12/31/21 5:34:51 PM
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The action is completely indistinguishable from any other movie in the last twenty years except for like 5 minutes.

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ColdOne666
12/31/21 5:39:55 PM
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It's basically The Last Jedi but Matrix.

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LordMarshal
12/31/21 5:41:18 PM
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Lack of budget. Neo acts stiff and keeps doing this stupid matrix powers hand wave. Smiths acting is just bad.

The movie doesnt really do anything interesting with the story. Its just telling you, literally telling you, what happened after 3.

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
12/31/21 5:41:30 PM
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I liked it
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spanky1
12/31/21 5:42:15 PM
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Shockingly bad action in a series that is supposed to have top tier, boundary pushing action scenes.

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Jagr_68
12/31/21 5:43:20 PM
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ColdOne666 posted...
It's basically The Last Jedi but Matrix.

This. Almost beat for beat too.

also had appx 1 million flashbacks from better movies ie. the trilogy

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Gobstoppers12
12/31/21 5:43:28 PM
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The gunplay and close quarters fighting is really, really weak. Like, the bullets don't have any weight, the martial arts are hard to follow and lack style, etc.

For a movie that's part of a franchise that had an enormous impact on action cinema, even to this very day, you wouldn't think the action would be its weakest aspect, but... it is.

The story is fun enough and full of nostalgia and fan service moments, and I personally really love the ending, but it's not something to watch if you're expecting another mind blowing experience.

I think we know now which one of the Wachowski sisters was responsible for the amazing action in the other entries to the series.

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LordMarshal
12/31/21 5:44:15 PM
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A coworker theorizes a convo in the movie was literal and is why its so bad. I cant decide but based on the movie its possible.

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Solid Sonic
12/31/21 5:44:30 PM
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The real question is should this be the final nail in the franchise?

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refmon
12/31/21 5:44:32 PM
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ColdOne666 posted...
It's basically The Last Jedi but Matrix.


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Solid Sonic
12/31/21 5:45:57 PM
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You know what, never mind. Topic hidden.

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LordMarshal
12/31/21 5:47:15 PM
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Solid Sonic posted...
The real question is should this be the final nail in the franchise?

Yes.

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CharlesBronson
01/02/22 3:40:15 PM
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it's woke shit made by people who took the soy pill, thank you
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DrizztLink
01/02/22 3:41:40 PM
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CharlesBronson posted...
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Shablagoo
01/02/22 3:42:52 PM
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Action is mediocre but its a good film otherwise.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Id actually argue its very deliberately not that. Its almost making fun of that entire concept, imo.


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Njolk
01/02/22 3:42:54 PM
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If you haven't seen the other movies, the first is this amazing piece of media that wraps up perfectly

And the next two are really poorly tacked on and forced because the first was such an unexpected hit

I'd imagine a third sequel is even more forced and pointless

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Guide
01/02/22 3:43:20 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
I think we know now which one of the Wachowski sisters was responsible for the amazing action in the other entries to the series.

It was only one of em this time?

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garan
01/02/22 3:44:26 PM
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Watch the first movie, then imagine an incredibly stupid fanfic remake/reboot of it.
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Prestoff
01/02/22 3:45:30 PM
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Watch any action scene from this movie and compare here:
https://youtu.be/7GSgWzmR_-c

It's night and day. Sure the clip is cheesy, but I will take cheesy over shaky camera, dark lighted rooms, and quick cuts any day of the week.

The movie could have been mediocre but if at least the action scenes looked cool I wouldn't mind, but it looked terrible.

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Talas
01/02/22 3:49:19 PM
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It was pretty good, action was kinda meh compared to the other ones. Story was better than Reloaded and Revelations.

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SwiggitySwoogit
01/02/22 3:53:05 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
Action is mediocre but its a good film otherwise.

Id actually argue its very deliberately not that. Its almost making fun of that entire concept, imo.

It makes fun of it while doing it, which is a lazy cover for lazy writing.
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Freddie_Mercury
01/02/22 4:00:03 PM
#26:


ironically the simplest plot in the series managed to confuse the most people

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UndefeatedGOAT
01/02/22 4:00:08 PM
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It wasnt that bad of a movie, Ill say I like it
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s0nicfan
01/02/22 4:01:03 PM
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LordMarshal posted...
A coworker theorizes a convo in the movie was literal and is why its so bad. I cant decide but based on the movie its possible.

If you're talking about Warner Brothers saying they were going to make it with or without Lana that much has been confirmed.

It also isn't a problem of budget because the movie cost more than the first three matrix movies.

Lana was basically forced into taking control of a sequel and decided to spend the first half of the movie shitting all over studios and audiences for forcing people to make sequels and then the second half working through a kind of lazy love story to help her deal with the death of her parents.

There clearly wasn't any real drive to push the limits of action like the original movies or explore philosophical concepts like the sequels. It wasn't tapping into some new technology like when the first movie came out and the internet was still relatively young. It wasn't trying to be any one thing in particular and the result is it's kind of mediocre at a bunch of different things at the same time.

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pfh1001
01/02/22 4:03:18 PM
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SwiggitySwoogit posted...
It makes fun of it while doing it, which is a lazy cover for lazy writing.


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Jonny2284
01/02/22 4:04:52 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


This, and when it was time to rise above that and do something fresh, we get Neo breaking out force push and kamikaze zombies.
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Shablagoo
01/02/22 4:05:06 PM
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SwiggitySwoogit posted...
It makes fun of it while doing it, which is a lazy cover for lazy writing.

Eh, thats fair. It worked for me though and I enjoyed the ideas presented.

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Axiom
01/02/22 4:15:05 PM
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UndefeatedGOAT posted...
It wasnt that bad of a movie, Ill say I like it
This. It was competing with a legacy that it could never live up to and was unnecessary as a whole but it wasn't bad at all. People are just exaggerating
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Gobstoppers12
01/02/22 4:17:56 PM
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Guide posted...
It was only one of em this time?
Yeah, it was only Lana for this one. Lilly wasn't part of it.

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MrMallard
01/02/22 4:26:49 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
If you're talking about Warner Brothers saying they were going to make it with or without Lana that much has been confirmed.

It also isn't a problem of budget because the movie cost more than the first three matrix movies.

Lana was basically forced into taking control of a sequel and decided to spend the first half of the movie shitting all over studios and audiences for forcing people to make sequels and then the second half working through a kind of lazy love story to help her deal with the death of her parents.

There clearly wasn't any real drive to push the limits of action like the original movies or explore philosophical concepts like the sequels. It wasn't tapping into some new technology like when the first movie came out and the internet was still relatively young. It wasn't trying to be any one thing in particular and the result is it's kind of mediocre at a bunch of different things at the same time.
If this is true, I'll probably be able to enjoy the movie somewhat. It's compromised, but the issues stem from some really deeply ingrained flaws that go down to the foundation of the movie - studio interference and director apathy basically forcing this movie to exist rather than the movie being a product of love or a genuine desire to tell a story. Through that viewpoint, maybe the movie is worth watching.

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PowerOats
01/02/22 4:31:15 PM
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It was ok. The action was meh, but there were a few cool moments tbh.

Honestly, it's better than Revolutions. That's all it needs to be
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AngelicRadiance
01/02/22 4:34:02 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

You can safely ignore anyone who uses the word woke unironically

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s0nicfan
01/02/22 4:34:21 PM
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MrMallard posted...
If this is true, I'll probably be able to enjoy the movie somewhat. It's compromised, but the issues stem from some really deeply ingrained flaws that go down to the foundation of the movie - studio interference and director apathy basically forcing this movie to exist rather than the movie being a product of love or a genuine desire to tell a story. Through that viewpoint, maybe the movie is worth watching.

Take these for what you will:

https://collider.com/matrix-resurrections-sequels-meta-dialogue-james-mcteigue-interview-lana-wachowski/
Because for a few years before Lana said she was going to make it, there was a lot of talk about people working on different versions of Matrix scripts. So, I got the vibe that they were getting ready to move forward on something, with or without Lana. But I'm happy that Lana came back.

MCTEIGUE: Yeah. That was real. There were versions out there. But I guess the fates dictated that Lana's story came at the right time, and Warner Brothers were willing to move forward with that story.

https://www.indiewire.com/2021/09/lana-wachowski-revived-neo-matrix-4-comfort-parent-death-1234664318/
My dad died, then this friend died, then my mom died, Wachowski recently said at the International Literature Festival Berlin (via /Film). I didnt really know how to process that kind of grief. I hadnt experienced it that closely You know their lives are going to end and yet it was still really hard. My brain has always reached into my imagination and one night, I was crying and I couldnt sleep, and my brain exploded this whole story. And I couldnt have my mom and dad, yet suddenly I had Neo and Trinity, arguably the two most important characters in my life.

Wachowski continued, It was immediately comforting to have these two characters alive again, and its super simple. You can look at it and say: OK, these two people die and OK, bring these two people back to life and oh, doesnt that feel good. Yeah, it did! Its simple, and this is what art does and thats what stories do: they comfort us.

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Shablagoo
01/02/22 5:59:14 PM
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MrMallard posted...
If this is true, I'll probably be able to enjoy the movie somewhat. It's compromised, but the issues stem from some really deeply ingrained flaws that go down to the foundation of the movie - studio interference and director apathy basically forcing this movie to exist rather than the movie being a product of love or a genuine desire to tell a story. Through that viewpoint, maybe the movie is worth watching.

Like all of his posts its largely true but with a hefty heap of right-wing imagination sprinkled atop it.

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s0nicfan
01/02/22 6:10:54 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
Like all of his posts its largely true but with a hefty heap of right-wing imagination sprinkled atop it.

I provided literal links you genocide denier.

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Shablagoo
01/02/22 6:25:53 PM
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*yawn* whatever you genocide denier, my statement holds true.

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Shablagoo
01/03/22 5:52:49 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


really? i thought there was plenty there tbh. it had a lot of the same theological themes and such as the originals

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12amMadman
01/03/22 6:01:53 AM
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-tries to hard to hard to be clever
-action was not up to series standard
-heard they didn't have Hugo because of scheduling conflict, should've waited for him, he could have saved the movie as he did in 2 and 3.


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DrizztLink
01/03/22 9:57:10 AM
#45:


12amMadman posted...
-heard they didn't have Hugo because of scheduling conflict, should've waited for him, he could have saved the movie as he did in 2 and 3.
Somebody here pointed out how much more solid the whole beginning part would have been with Hugo acting like someone else entirely until the "MR. ANDERSOOOOOON!" moment.

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AngelicRadiance
01/03/22 9:59:00 AM
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That they brought back Smith at all makes it bad

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RchHomieQuanChi
01/03/22 9:59:54 AM
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It really didn't feel like a Matrix movie for me. Too much focus on meta-commentary rather than the philosophical elements the series is known for.

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Master Kazuya
01/03/22 10:18:21 AM
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I thought the first half was awesome, second half is like if an AI tried to write a Matrix movie.

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Shablagoo
01/03/22 10:45:32 AM
#49:


Master Kazuya posted...
I thought the first half was awesome, second half is like if an AI tried to write a Matrix movie.

Lol yeah pretty great description tbh

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cjsdowg
01/03/22 11:03:18 AM
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It was boring. The plot was just like ...why. The actions was meh. The theme were stupid. Your cash grab is no less of a cash grab if you point it out.

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