Current Events > I don't like that people want easier modes for games like Dark Souls.

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The difficulty gives us players who complete it a sense of pride and accomplishment and all that would be taken away if given more options. So they shouldnt do so.

The real easy mode is posting this topic on CE for an easy 500.

ok, but what about the quadruple amputees, huh

didn't think about them, did you

People don't get they are stat based games and there's always early grind areas

Disagree. Fan-made challenge runs exist anyway for those who want a tougher challenge. No different than just having difficulty modes built in, honestly.

The sense of accomplishment wouldnt be taken away

what would easy mode do, though? lower health for enemies and bosses? that's not a big deal

I already have a Dark Soul so the game should win itself for me.

what kind of boss weapon can i get with your soul

There always has been an easy mode in Dark Souls and it's called summoning you filthy scrubs.

That just tells the devs to make it harder towards the end.

which is exactly what they did for Sekiro & Dark3. Imagine True King Allant on easy.

The should put in a hard mode. That would be funny.

viewmaster_pi posted...

what would easy mode do, though? lower health for enemies and bosses? that's not a big deal

In my pretend easy mode for Dark Souls, enemy damage outside of instakills is universally cut by some percentage (let's say half), ailments are harder to apply to the player and go away faster, enemies stagger easier, Humanity is more common, some areas (the segment prior to entering the Anor Londo castle with 3 gargoyles and the archers shooting at you comes to mind) have less (or perhaps weaker versions of) enemies, the weight theshold for rolling is raised (so it's easier to light roll), the lantern shows more in the Tomb of the Giants, you can teleport from Firelink Shrine to either Blighttown bonfire and vice versa before getting the Lordvessel, and bosses have altered attack patterns and perhaps don't use some attacks. Most of these changes are a matter of degree and do not fundamentally change the game, and others are anti-frustration.

The sense of accomplishment thing was never a good argument, as you'd still get the same thing by playing the "hard mode". I'm sure an achievement would signify this.

The issue with an easy mode is that the difficulty itself is as much part of the aesthetic as the graphical style and sound design and whathaveyou. Dumbing it down is like reducing the tiddies on dragon maids.

Watch a speedrun to see the real Easy Mode

Guide posted...

Dumbing it down is like reducing the tiddies on dragon maids.

you bite your fucking tongue

viewmaster_pi posted...

you bite your fucking tongue

What, do you take issue with mortals speaking DIVINE TRUTH?

don't even mention that as a possibility!

I think the whole thing is hilarious, there are a few long-time posters here that used to smugly tell people who wanted more difficult Pokemon games that they aren't for them. Now they are crying into their pillow because there isn't a dark souls easy difficulty

i think one of the dishwasher games had a pretty princess mode, lol

Xavier_On_High posted...

The real easy mode is posting this topic on CE for an easy 500.

I think the bait was too obvious here.

I understand easy mode for story oriented games. But... Souls likes are almost entirely about the gameplay. The lore is fun but typically nowhere near the main focus other than a basic overarching goal. I don't understand the requests for easy mode in Souls games at all.

R_Jackal posted...

I understand easy mode for story oriented games. But... Souls likes are almost entirely about the gameplay. The lore is fun but typically nowhere near the main focus other than a basic overarching goal. I don't understand the requests for easy mode in Souls games at all.

That's exactly it. And I think they know if they actually put it in the game, people who play on easy are gonna immediately drive the average score down because they're not gonna get the experience that compliments the world and lore. The core is the gameplay. And challenge is a huge part of what makes the gameplay work

i rather liked how DS2 did it with all of its more unique mechanics. made it easier to tailor the experience instead of a cross the board difficulty slider.

I only want a boss mode. No change in difficulty. What I'm imagining is a room where there are portals to every boss in the game. You can fight any boss at any time, as many times as you want. Even if you beat one, you can battle them again if you wish

If they just did that, I'd be happy. I like fighting bosses, don't like the rest of the game

would they even really bother with the game if it had an easy mode

Miyazaki has said that the difficulty is a specific design towards that vague self imaginative story telling you do for yourself. He doesn't look at it as a sadistic, and or playful choice. He's said before that he's not the greatest gamer. But that if he can beat it. Most other people can as well.