Current Events > The amount of hate that landlords get is ridiculous

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Shablagoo posted...

I have to say I wouldnt personally consider it a success were I to force someone else to work for me at threat of homelessness.

What landlord is forcing anyone to rent from them

It's pretty obvious some landlord did something wrong to Shab for him to blindly hate them this hard.

Nemu posted...

Its kind of like billionaire hate. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to hate the system, but it generally seems to be the uninformed mobbing at their heels.

it usually isn't hatred

Thinking that paying a person to use their property temporarily is akin to being "forced to work for them at the threat of homelessness" means you are not living in reality

Veggeta_MAX posted...

It's pretty obvious some landlord did something wrong to Shab for him to blindly hate them this hard.

it's true. they fucked him over royally and now he's pissed.
he's got a vendetta against every landlord trying to make money.

even the good landlords aren't spared.

edit: goddamnit china. they brainwashed him.

Veggeta_MAX posted...

It's pretty obvious some landlord did something wrong to Shab for him to blindly hate them this hard.

Nah, the CCP told him they were evil and so now he has to be a good boy and tell everyone or else his social credit score will drop.

Thinking someone else should spend their working hours paying off your property lest they be without shelter is the asinine and ridiculous notion here, not anything Ive expressed.

Because they hoard property to rent out which drives up housing costs. You also have large corporations which have more capital than individual people buying up property at over market value to rent out.

eston posted...

What landlord is forcing anyone to rent from them

Do you think everyone who is currently renting could go buy a house tomorrow?

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Thank God I live in the Midwest in a small city. One of my buddies live in San Fran and bitches all the time about cost of everything but his dumbass choose to live there.

Veggeta_MAX posted...

One of my buddies live in San Fran and bitches all the time about cost of everything but his dumbass choose to live there.

takes money to move somewhere else. not that easy to pull off unless have family or friends.

I dont mind a person owning one or two properties to rent, but people that make it their goal to own as many as possible so they can sit around all day while leeching off everyones workthose people are trash and that should be illegal

I work as a maintenance contractor for a few different landlords, but I'm also a renter for my own apartment, so I see it from both sides. There's a lot of bad landlords, and there's a lot of bad tenants.

The difference is that IME, most landlords are bad, whether it be from genuine callousness or from being jaded. But so many are incapable of sympathizing with tenants because they generally don't live in the building they manage. Even if they do try and do the right things, they do it slowly and cheaply. They rarely want to go out of their way to improve QOL for tenants in the long run because it's far easier and more affordable to patch things up as they go along.

THAT SAID, a lot of this comes from the fact that yes, there's a ton of shitty tenants out there who make landlords' lives a living hell, which makes it hard to care about all the people living in a property as a whole. I've seen all sorts of horror stories which make me feel bad for the people who contract me.

Generally though, I'm still more inclined to side with renters as a rule because they're usually the ones genuinely suffering. Living without heat/losing property to flooding/having no hot water/etc... outweighs "Oh man, I have to make ANOTHER phone call and spend some money!"

Doesnt a landlord just have to pay property taxes while they get to collect whatever rental price they demand from a tenant through a contract? If the house isnt paid off I sort of get asking for enough to pay the mortgage and property taxes with a little to support yourself with too, but if the house is paid off youre just leeching off people. The poster that said they help an old couple during a snowstorm sounds like theyre asking for sympathy when they didnt even say how much they charge said old couple or how much theyre making off said old couple.

My landlord is pretty awesome though. His houses are paid off and he says he only does this as a means for a comfortable retirement. He only charges me $600 a month for a 3 bedroom house with a finished basement in good neighborhood in Kansas City. Every Christmas he takes $100 off the rent as a gift. Doesnt even charge a pet fee either. While neighboring landlords are charging $1200-1500 for rent.

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Yeah I hear ya.

kingdrake2 posted...

takes money to move somewhere else. not that easy to pull off unless have family or friends.

Yeah my buddy can move his ass back home any times he wants. Not a privilege many people have.

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If the house isnt paid off I sort of get asking for enough to pay the mortgage and property taxes with a little to support yourself with too

Why?

Fuck landlords. Get a real job. Buying up housing you dont need is lame no matter how you spin it.

MrDrMan posted...

Fuck landlords. Get a real job. Buying up housing you dont need is lame no matter how you spin it.

But sometimes they call a snow plow for old people! Think of all the value landlords add and how much they contribute to society!

Renting can actually be advantageous for people tho.

Renting is a good thing, price gouging is bad

Say what you will about individual landlords; the problem is a system in which people's needs for housing are treated as a secondary concern in comparison to the interests of property owners.

I think we, landlords do an extraordinary job - I myself almost selflessly house 10 families, thanks to a small loan from my parents - I managed to get a few properties by the age of 30, and have just built up from there.

However, really I am a bit annoyed that tipping isn't acceptable for landlords, yet it's intrinsic in most other service industries everywhere else in America.

You can close on your own home in 90 days. If it's too expensive then get a better job. If your credit is bad then pay the debts you agreed to pay. Take responsibility for your decisions.

ExtremeLuchador posted...

You can close on your own home in 90 days. If it's too expensive then get a better job. If your credit is bad then pay the debts you agreed to pay. Take responsibility for your decisions.

Maybe its too expensive due to artificial scarcity created by people owning more than one home. Surely couldnt be anything like that.

SweetieBeIle462 posted...

Edit: Thanks the awards. This post is no where near as unpopular as I thought it would be.

Edit: Who the hell gave this wholesome pro?

There wasn't even an attempt here. You straight up ripped this from reddit

My uncle started out in the 1970's making 2.35 per hour. His rent was $250 per month. His entire paychecks after taxes barely covered his rent and that's if he got a full 40 hours. It did not cover food, electricity, water, garbage or phone. There was no free Obama phones, there was no free Healthcare, there was no internet. If you wanted a job, you had to get up and go find one. There was no applying for it online because there was no online. If you were a man, you could not get food stamps or any assistance. You just couldn't.

For example in the Seattle area minimum wage is right around 17 an hour. If you work 40 hours a week, you easily make 600.00 a week. There are tons of apartments in that area for 1100.00 per month. So not only will minimum wage afford an apartment, you can also afford food and utilities. You can also get free phone, Healthcare and government assistance.

preach, TC. Preach!

ExtremeLuchador posted...

My uncle started out in the 1970's making 2.35 per hour. His rent was $250 per month. His entire paychecks after taxes barely covered his rent and that's if he got a full 40 hours. It did not cover food, electricity, water, garbage or phone. There was no free Obama phones, there was no free Healthcare, there was no internet. If you wanted a job, you had to get up and go find one. There was no applying for it online because there was no online. If you were a man, you could not get food stamps or any assistance. You just couldn't.

For example in the Seattle area minimum wage is right around 17 an hour. If you work 40 hours a week, you easily make 600.00 a week. There are tons of apartments in that area for 1100.00 per month. So not only will minimum wage afford an apartment, you can also afford food and utilities. You can also get free phone, Healthcare and government assistance.

what a useless post lol.

ExtremeLuchador posted...

My uncle started out in the 1970's making 2.35 per hour. His rent was $250 per month. His entire paychecks after taxes barely covered his rent and that's if he got a full 40 hours. It did not cover food, electricity, water, garbage or phone. There was no free Obama phones, there was no free Healthcare, there was no internet. If you wanted a job, you had to get up and go find one. There was no applying for it online because there was no online. If you were a man, you could not get food stamps or any assistance. You just couldn't.

For example in the Seattle area minimum wage is right around 17 an hour. If you work 40 hours a week, you easily make 600.00 a week. There are tons of apartments in that area for 1100.00 per month. So not only will minimum wage afford an apartment, you can also afford food and utilities. You can also get free phone, Healthcare and government assistance.

Bro wtf are you talking about?

Gwynevere posted...

Do you think everyone who is currently renting could go buy a house tomorrow?

Of course. It's not like a bank would turn you down for what would turn out to be $500/month as a mortgage, even if you are currently paying $800/month in rent. /s

I'm just going to go shack up in a storm drain somewhere.

You can get a FHA loan with only 5% down. If you can't do that then I don't know what to tell you.

hey bro just give me all your money for nothing bro lmao oh youre just jealous btw haha

ExtremeLuchador posted...

You can get a FHA loan with only 5% down. If you can't do that then I don't know what to tell you.

You can also get a PS5 at anytime for probably $800. Does that make scalping ok? No.

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Story of CE's life

This topic is now about pitbulls, "the amount of hate that pitbulls get is ridiculous"

ExtremeLuchador posted...

If your credit is bad then pay the debts you agreed to pay. Take responsibility for your decisions.

Hear, hear. You agreed to close your account if Cliff Lee posted above a 3.00 ERA during the 2008 MLB season. What's your account from 2008 plus interest worth now?

good landlords are the best thing ever
bad landlords can ruin your life

good tenants are the best thing ever
bad tenants can ruin your life

the bad ones usually get all the attention, on both sides

I agree, it's ridiculous that people don't hate landlords nearly enough

The ending of the first post is funny.

But the fact is, the way landlording works makes no sense for just about any other product when landlording doesn't inherently offer any sort of service. The service that home management companies offer can easily be offered to the actual owner of the home without the landlord middleman.

It doesn't make sense to take out a car loan, make someone else pay for that amount or more, then have the car afterwards. Same with books, dumbbells, games, humidifiers, or whatever good or trinket.

There is no tangible benefit for the tenant to rent when prices are high (at mortgage level or higher) and no specific service provided that can't directly be provided to the tenant directly without them.

Sansoldier posted...

The ending of the first post is funny.

But the fact is, the way landlording works makes no sense for just about any other product when landlording doesn't inherently offer any sort of service. The service that home management companies offer can easily be offered to the actual owner of the home without the landlord middleman.

It doesn't make sense to take out a car loan, make someone else pay for that amount or more, then have the car afterwards. Same with books, dumbbells, games, humidifiers, or whatever good or trinket.

There is no tangible benefit for the tenant to rent when prices are high (at mortgage level or higher) and no specific service provided that can't directly be provided to the tenant directly without them.

The service is that as tenant you don't have to do any repairs/yard work/ shoveling. It is a landlords obligation to either do all that stuff themselves or pay someone to do it. And yeah rent might be around the same as a mortgage, but you forget you would now be paying property tax in addition as well as home insurance and any utilities that would have been part of your rent. This on top of now having to deal with your own repairs/upkeep costs/yard work/etc. Owning a home is by far more expensive of the two, the difference being you can sell the home and hope to get more then you paid.

Id fight a lanlord

ExtremeLuchador posted...

My uncle started out in the 1970's making 2.35 per hour. His rent was $250 per month. His entire paychecks after taxes barely covered his rent and that's if he got a full 40 hours. It did not cover food, electricity, water, garbage or phone. There was no free Obama phones, there was no free Healthcare, there was no internet. If you wanted a job, you had to get up and go find one. There was no applying for it online because there was no online. If you were a man, you could not get food stamps or any assistance. You just couldn't.

For example in the Seattle area minimum wage is right around 17 an hour. If you work 40 hours a week, you easily make 600.00 a week. There are tons of apartments in that area for 1100.00 per month. So not only will minimum wage afford an apartment, you can also afford food and utilities. You can also get free phone, Healthcare and government assistance.

Show me a Seattle apartment for $1100 you liar, watch this guy post a sketch room for rent no Wi-Fi included

Sansoldier posted...

But the fact is, the way landlording works makes no sense for just about any other product when landlording doesn't inherently offer any sort of service. The service that home management companies offer can easily be offered to the actual owner of the home without the landlord middleman.

It doesn't make sense to take out a car loan, make someone else pay for that amount or more, then have the car afterwards. Same with books, dumbbells, games, humidifiers, or whatever good or trinket.

Huh? There are car rentals and car leases where you pay for temporary usage but never get title. There is rent, rent-to-own, and leases for lots of home goods.

Seriously?

There are six units, 6 gas meters, 6 electric meters. There not only is a washer and dryer in the basement: there is an outlet. There is also a hot water tap in the basement. This is honest just following the rules?

When you have had one bad experience, it unfortunately colours your perspective.

SweetieBeIle462 posted...

The amount of hate that landlords get is ridiculously low.

Fixed that for you. They deserve 10x as much hate as they are currently getting. They should be pariahs in every community. They should be looked upon like drug dealers are. They don't deserve a moment's rest. They are evil.

Nu_Jersey_Devil posted...

Okay I'm going to present you a scenario and tell me if you think this is "mooching" my tenants are a elderly couple that their son screwed them out of thousands of dollars and were forced to sell their home and rent a smaller home. I treat them with the upmost respect and I constantly check on their wellbeing as the husband as a bad heart. I've sent a snow plow company free of charge to them every snow storm so that they never have to shovel snow ever. So tell me is that "mooching" or is that providing someone with a rental agreement with a good landlord?

I notice you didn't inform us of how much you are charging them.