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F1areaGaman
01/20/22 6:45:33 PM
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I'm looking for a story about as serious as FFVII but without the campy element...and not as cheesy as something as lets say, Tales of Symphonia.

Something with meaning, a commentary and/or a message the developers intended. Maybe some metaphor or something but especially in dealing with:

How to find meaning
Consciousness
Mass hypnosis/indoctrination
Fundamentals of Good vs Evil
Conspiracy
Time Travel
Integrity of Institutions
Relationships
Politics and it's role/institutions

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BroodRyu
01/20/22 6:46:30 PM
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I think Breath of Fire III fits some of those points pretty well.
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EndOfDiscOne
01/20/22 6:47:19 PM
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Xenoblade 1 isn't too weeby. Great story and characters. It touches on pretty much all of those themes.

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Nukazie
01/20/22 6:48:32 PM
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Radiant Historia

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Wetterdew
01/20/22 6:51:36 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
Xenoblade 1 isn't too weeby. Great story and characters. It touches on pretty much all of those themes.
just don't play xenoblade 2
because

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fohstick
01/20/22 6:53:33 PM
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Vagrant Story. It's actually like a WRPG developed by Square
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ThyCorndog
01/20/22 6:54:13 PM
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tag because the weebiness is what turns me off jrpgs. I'd happily play ones that aren't in that style

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Garioshi
01/20/22 6:56:11 PM
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Final Fantasy X
Chrono Cross
Tales of the Abyss
Chrono Trigger
Xenoblade X

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Voidgolem
01/20/22 7:01:24 PM
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Resonance of Fate hits all of those niches. It's kinda weeby in a good way though.

the Yakuza games, for a given definition of 'JRPG'.

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F1areaGaman
01/20/22 7:02:12 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Final Fantasy X
Chrono Cross
Tales of the Abyss
Chrono Trigger
Xenoblade X

I love Final Fantasy X, Chrono Cross is interesting. I always had heard it has a shallow story because of all the characters and not enough screen time?
BroodRyu posted...
I think Breath of Fire III fits some of those points pretty well.

I love the look of sprite based PS1 games, but isn't BoF kind of generic and "teenagers save the world"?

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NashtheLion
01/20/22 7:03:07 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
Xenoblade 1 isn't too weeby. Great story and characters. It touches on pretty much all of those themes.

This is a good rec.

Id also recommend FF Tactics, BoF: Dragon Quarter, Xenogears, Vagrant Story, Parasite Eve & Shadow Hearts Covenant.
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spikethedevil
01/20/22 7:03:38 PM
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Weeb doesnt mean what you think it means TC.

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kuwab0
01/20/22 7:05:48 PM
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Xenogears

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Garioshi
01/20/22 7:06:42 PM
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F1areaGaman posted...
Chrono Cross is interesting. I always had heard it has a shallow story because of all the characters and not enough screen time?
Chrono Cross has a large cast, and while there are a few "joke" characters with no bearing on the main plot, the big thing about CC is that just about anyone relevant to the story is recruitable, and every single character has at least 1 (usually 2) sidequest focused only on them. You're obviously not getting as much of each character (and especially intercharacter interactions) as in Trigger, but Cross's cast still has a lot to say for itself. The large cast is cool, but it's not why I adore Cross.

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NashtheLion
01/20/22 7:08:38 PM
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F1areaGaman posted...
I love Final Fantasy X, Chrono Cross is interesting. I always had heard it has a shallow story because of all the characters and not enough screen time?

Yes, you probably wont get much screen time with the characters but the story is decent enough to cover themes on Good vs Evil & especially Time Travel. Music is solid as well.

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MaxEffingBemis
01/20/22 7:15:35 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Chrono Cross has a large cast, and while there are a few "joke" characters with no bearing on the main plot, the big thing about CC is that just about anyone relevant to the story is recruitable, and every single character has at least 1 (usually 2) sidequest focused only on them. You're obviously not getting as much of each character (and especially intercharacter interactions) as in Trigger, but Cross's cast still has a lot to say for itself. The large cast is cool, but it's not why I adore Cross.
as someone that hasn't played CC before, what do you adore about it?

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SomeLikeItHoth
01/20/22 7:16:26 PM
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Fire Emblem: Three Houses

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MaxEffingBemis
01/20/22 7:16:27 PM
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also basic rec here - but have you tried either of the Nier games?

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Prestoff
01/20/22 7:17:24 PM
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spikethedevil posted...
Weeb doesnt mean what you think it means TC.

Yeah it's an incorrect word, but I get what TC is implying like the typical anime style tropes you see in JRPG's.

One that comes to mind would probably be XB1, it hits some of the things you listed TC and the definitive edition came out for the Switch.

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MedeaLysistrata
01/20/22 7:18:50 PM
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"Yes, one role with romance please"

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LanHikari10
01/20/22 7:19:06 PM
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F1areaGaman posted...
but isn't BoF kind of generic and "teenagers save the world"?
I guess generic is a subjective term so I don't know what you mean. The majority of the story simply revolves around the characters looking to find answers for who they are, what they're doing there in the world, and why past actions had to happen.

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Strider102
01/20/22 7:30:17 PM
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Earthbound

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DirkDiggles
01/20/22 7:33:21 PM
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F1areaGaman posted...
I'm looking for a story about as serious as FFVII but without the campy element...and not as cheesy as something as lets say, Tales of Symphonia.

Something with meaning, a commentary and/or a message the developers intended. Maybe some metaphor or something but especially in dealing with:

How to find meaning
Consciousness
Mass hypnosis/indoctrination
Fundamentals of Good vs Evil
Conspiracy
Time Travel
Integrity of Institutions
Relationships
Politics and it's role/institutions

@Veggeta_MAX is a huge fan of this game.

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F1areaGaman
01/20/22 7:34:17 PM
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spikethedevil posted...
Weeb doesnt mean what you think it means TC.

I'm not great with Gen Z jargon.

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F1areaGaman
01/20/22 7:34:42 PM
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DirkDiggles posted...
@Veggeta_MAX is a huge fan of this game.

huh?

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DirkDiggles
01/20/22 7:35:15 PM
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I'm talking about Xenogears. lol

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Veggeta_MAX
01/20/22 7:39:09 PM
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Xenogears is hella weeb

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Spiritlittle
01/20/22 7:39:24 PM
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Nier Replicant
Nier Automata
Octopath Traveler
Trails of Cold Steel 1-4

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BakonBitz
01/20/22 7:39:40 PM
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It's a shame about Xenoblade 2's presentation because when it gets serious it absolutely delves into serious topics like mental health, depression, the real consequences of war, racism, prostitution, etc. It's why I love the game so much and think it's ultimately stronger in some aspects than the first game. But it's got some really ass character design for some characters and first presents itself as a lighthearted, trope-filled anime-styled game. By Chapter 5 it starts feeling more like your typical Xeno-style flair.

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Antifar
01/20/22 7:40:25 PM
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Yakuza Like a Dragon is very Japanese, but not so much anine

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Prestoff
01/20/22 7:45:26 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
It's a shame about Xenoblade 2's presentation because when it gets serious it absolutely delves into serious topics like mental health, depression, the real consequences of war, racism, prostitution, etc. It's why I love the game so much and think it's ultimately stronger in some aspects than the first game. But it's got some really ass character design for some characters and first presents itself as a lighthearted, trope-filled anime-styled game. By Chapter 5 it starts feeling more like your typical Xeno-style flair.

I'll be honest, I think the anime-ish art style played a big role in why the game ended up being the best selling Xeno game. But yeah I'm not gonna lie, it did play a big role in why I couldn't finish playing the game (but also because how it does a really bad job explaining the battle system. Had to watch youtube videos explaining it better).

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DespondentDeity
01/20/22 7:51:49 PM
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Odin Sphere Leifthrasir

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TMOG
01/20/22 7:51:57 PM
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The thing about Chrono Cross is that people like to argue it as "This game has 45 characters but only like ten of them get any development!", as if your standard RPG cast doesn't usually only have about ten characters anyway.

A much better (and less negative) way to view it is that you have your core cast of "canon" party members in Chrono Cross, and everybody else is bonus content. The characters that matter to the story are used in the story -- everybody else, like Funguy, Skelly, Mojo, and NeoFio -- are just there for fun and in no way necessary to understand the plot of the game, because a lot of them are irrelevant by design.

It's always been weird to me that this is a complaint a lot of people have with Chrono Cross, but then they don't even bat an eye at Suikoden.
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Veggeta_MAX
01/20/22 7:58:02 PM
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TMOG posted...
A much better (and less negative) way to view it is that you have your core cast of "canon" party members in Chrono Cross, and everybody else is bonus content.
Now that's a cope

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NoxObscuras
01/20/22 8:00:49 PM
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You may like The Last Remnant. It's one of SE's lesser known JRPG's. The main character has a cheesy JRPG name (Rush), but there's a good amount of politics in the story, due to the game's focus on the different city-states and the lords that rule over them. The battle system is unique and does take some getting used to, but it's a lot of fun once you get the hang of it.

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TMOG
01/20/22 8:03:33 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
Now that's a cope
I dare you to look Turnip in the eye and tell me he's crucial to the plot and not just a bonus character
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Tyranthraxus
01/20/22 8:13:55 PM
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F1areaGaman posted...
How to find meaning
Consciousness
Mass hypnosis/indoctrination
Fundamentals of Good vs Evil
Conspiracy
Time Travel
Integrity of Institutions
Relationships
Politics and it's role/institutions

Radiant Historia hits all those notes. If you eliminate time travel from the equation then you get the following:

Breath of Fire 2, 3, and 5
Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together
Final Fantasy Tactics
Xenogears


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Veggeta_MAX
01/20/22 8:14:04 PM
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A game can never be bad if you find ways to cope.

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Garioshi
01/20/22 9:04:41 PM
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
as someone that hasn't played CC before, what do you adore about it?
The OST is my favorite in all of gaming, the story is excellently paced, the game looks fantastic for the PS1, it's got some excellent dungeons, and it covers some topics in genius ways I've never seen in any other game.

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Voidgolem
01/20/22 10:26:16 PM
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TMOG posted...
The thing about Chrono Cross is that people like to argue it as "This game has 45 characters but only like ten of them get any development!", as if your standard RPG cast doesn't usually only have about ten characters anyway.

A much better (and less negative) way to view it is that you have your core cast of "canon" party members in Chrono Cross, and everybody else is bonus content. The characters that matter to the story are used in the story -- everybody else, like Funguy, Skelly, Mojo, and NeoFio -- are just there for fun and in no way necessary to understand the plot of the game, because a lot of them are irrelevant by design.

It's always been weird to me that this is a complaint a lot of people have with Chrono Cross, but then they don't even bat an eye at Suikoden.

the main problem it has is that it probably would've been better if it had been it's own thing entirely instead of Chrono Cross. There's a significant amount of the plot that falls to shambles trying to tie it back to a game that, for all intents and purposes, was fine without a sequel.

Like you could've ended the game at FATE or the Dragon God, and replaced the relevant figures in some backstories and nobody would've been the wiser.

then you can drill into most of the cast being forgettable interchangable settings on the accent generator but that can largely be forgiven.

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Alucard188
01/20/22 10:34:53 PM
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Xenogears
Lost Odyssey
Radiant Historia
Final Fantasy IX

These are probably the most adult themed jRPGs I can think of. Trails of Cold Steel is absolutely weeby.

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Questionmarktarius
01/20/22 10:38:28 PM
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Earthlock is a pretty good JRPG-type game, from Norway.
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Veggeta_MAX
01/20/22 10:48:13 PM
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So no one gonna say Parasite Eve?

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MabusIncarnate
01/20/22 10:49:07 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
tag because the weebiness is what turns me off jrpgs. I'd happily play ones that aren't in that style


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NashtheLion
01/20/22 10:49:46 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
So no one gonna say Parasite Eve?

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MedeaLysistrata
01/21/22 2:52:25 AM
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Fuck you. You have doomed everyone.

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Smackems
01/21/22 3:01:55 AM
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Nukazie posted...
Radiant Historia


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teep_
01/21/22 3:14:06 AM
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F1areaGaman posted...
How to find meaning
Consciousness
Mass hypnosis/indoctrination
Fundamentals of Good vs Evil
Conspiracy
Integrity of Institutions
Relationships
Politics and it's role/institutions


Persona 5 Royal is all of this but it's also hella anime

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MaxEffingBemis
01/21/22 7:55:05 AM
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bumping this for more discussion bc i love jrpgs

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mooreandrew58
01/21/22 8:02:51 AM
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Lost odyssey if not already mentioned. Still mad I never finished it..
It's got a unique gameplay element that ties into the story that some of the characters are immortal and thus in battle can't truly die. What happens if they get ko'd they auto revive in 3 turns. The thing is they only learn new abilities by being linked to a mortal and fighting with them in battle so you have incentive to use the mortals.

My favorite part was finding the main characters lost memories. Basically short stories but they where always tearjerkers

Also one of the few rpgs I've seen paint the main character as a unstoppable bad ass right from the start. Beginning of the game is him literally single handedly taking on hordes of enemy combatants in a war battle

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