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teep_ 01/22/22 4:26:39 PM #1:	https://youtu.be/vBKK3yxk5jY tl;dw in the video description --- teep does not dream of logical witch <cite>teep_ posted [p:961978718] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/vBKK3yxk5jY tl;dw in the video description </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 01/22/22 4:26:56 PM #2:	Can I get a TL:DW? EDIT: Instead of the OP saying it, I will. Arnold van den Bergh is the person named. --- Ryzen 3800x, 6900XT, 32 gig, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E FC: SW-8431-3263-1243 <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:961978724] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>Can I get a TL:DW? EDIT: Instead of the OP saying it, I will. Arnold van den Bergh is the person named. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 01/22/22 4:27:26 PM #3:	pogo_rabid posted... Can I get a TL:DW? --- I will NEVER have sex in my life. <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:961978741] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>pogo_rabid posted... </cite> <quote>Can I get a TL:DW?</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teep_ 01/22/22 4:27:51 PM #4:	pogo_rabid posted... Can I get a TL:DW? The video description --- teep does not dream of logical witch <cite>teep_ posted [p:961978752] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>pogo_rabid posted... </cite> <quote>Can I get a TL:DW?</quote>The video description </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R1masher 01/22/22 4:29:49 PM #5:	pogo_rabid posted... Can I get a TL:DW? we may never know the identity, but let this serve as a warning to what humanity is capable of --- R1R1R1R1R1R1 <cite>R1masher posted [p:961978806] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>pogo_rabid posted... </cite> <quote>Can I get a TL:DW?</quote> we may never know the identity, but let this serve as a warning to what humanity is capable of </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJPurple 01/22/22 4:33:42 PM #6:	Its kind of weird to think about that horrific stuff was going on not that long ago. 1944 is long ago but when you think about it its not THAT long ago --- 504 bout it bout it 901 bout it bout it <cite>SSJPurple posted [p:961978908] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>Its kind of weird to think about that horrific stuff was going on not that long ago. 1944 is long ago but when you think about it its not THAT long ago </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SauI_Goodman 01/22/22 4:35:47 PM #7:	rat bastard --- If you can see this message it's a wonder why it hasn't been modded yet by the snowflakes. <cite>SauI_Goodman posted [p:961978982] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>rat bastard </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJKirby 01/22/22 4:36:08 PM #8:	dude died 6 years later from throat cancer karma --- Not changing this signature until Beyond Good and Evil 2 is in my hand. August 25th, 2010. <cite>SSJKirby posted [p:961978993] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>dude died 6 years later from throat cancer karma </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Devilanse333 01/22/22 4:36:45 PM #9:	Linkfaqs. Maybe include a paragraph or two about what your topic is about in your own words in a way that invites discussion about said topic? --- XBOX Live Gamertag: DevilAnse33v2 PSN: DevilAnse33 <cite>Devilanse333 posted [p:961979006] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>Linkfaqs. Maybe include a paragraph or two about what your topic is about in your own words in a way that invites discussion about said topic? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-Unowninator- 01/22/22 4:37:59 PM #10:	How did they find out if this person is long dead? --- Not changing this signature until I think of a better one. Stated 8/26/2021 Join the unknown: http://goo.gl/S75cmn <cite>-Unowninator- posted [p:961979041] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>How did they find out if this person is long dead?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 01/22/22 4:40:42 PM #11:	-Unowninator- posted... How did they find out if this person is long dead? Relatives, maybe friends, could also be a journal or something he wrote down and now that no one will suffer if the info is released it now has been. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:961979121] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>-Unowninator- posted... </cite> <quote>How did they find out if this person is long dead?</quote>Relatives, maybe friends, could also be a journal or something he wrote down and now that no one will suffer if the info is released it now has been. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Proto_Spark 01/22/22 4:41:37 PM #12:	-Unowninator- posted... How did they find out if this person is long dead? Some old papers showed up linking it when they went looking through old cases that were never completely resolved. The guy who told on the Frank family was a prominent jewish person who was supposedly helping the nazis to protect his own family, which makes this hard to just go "what a terrible person" <cite>Proto_Spark posted [p:961979152] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>-Unowninator- posted... </cite> <quote>How did they find out if this person is long dead?</quote> Some old papers showed up linking it when they went looking through old cases that were never completely resolved. The guy who told on the Frank family was a prominent jewish person who was supposedly helping the nazis to protect his own family, which makes this hard to just go "what a terrible person" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
littlebro07 01/22/22 4:43:45 PM #13:	SSJPurple posted... Its kind of weird to think about that horrific stuff was going on not that long ago. 1944 is long ago but when you think about it its not THAT long ago the one that always gets me is Anne Frank and Martin Luther King Jr were born the same year --- https://i.imgtc.com/MGGa6Os.gif <cite>littlebro07 posted [p:961979210] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>SSJPurple posted... </cite> <quote>Its kind of weird to think about that horrific stuff was going on not that long ago. 1944 is long ago but when you think about it its not THAT long ago</quote> the one that always gets me is Anne Frank and Martin Luther King Jr were born the same year </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 01/22/22 4:44:55 PM #14:	SauI_Goodman posted... rat bastard SSJKirby posted... dude died 6 years later from throat cancer karma FWIW, he was also a Jew and it's suspected he gave up safehouses to keep himself and his family out of the camps. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:961979238] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>SauI_Goodman posted... </cite> <quote>rat bastard</quote> SSJKirby posted... </cite> <quote>dude died 6 years later from throat cancer karma</quote>FWIW, he was also a Jew and it's suspected he gave up safehouses to keep himself and his family out of the camps. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teep_ 01/22/22 5:16:43 PM #15:	Devilanse333 posted... Linkfaqs. Maybe include a paragraph or two about what your topic is about in your own words in a way that invites discussion about said topic? trolling in a topic about a famous victim of the Holocaust; how classy --- teep does not dream of logical witch <cite>teep_ posted [p:961980078] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>Devilanse333 posted... </cite> <quote>Linkfaqs. Maybe include a paragraph or two about what your topic is about in your own words in a way that invites discussion about said topic?</quote>trolling in a topic about a famous victim of the Holocaust; how classy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EnvoyOfTheLight 01/22/22 5:20:24 PM #16:	Has something changed for the case to be solidified? There were significant doubts not a week ago. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/18/books/anne-frank-betrayal-arnold-van-den-bergh.html --- i horf and i <cite>EnvoyOfTheLight posted [p:961980170] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>Has something changed for the case to be solidified? There were significant doubts not a week ago. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/18/books/anne-frank-betrayal-arnold-van-den-bergh.html </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 01/22/22 5:22:16 PM #17:	It's hard to judge. If the betrayer was Jewish, it is complicated. It would be one thing if they were not Jewish and just fucked her over. But it sounds like they made a choice to save their own family. It's hard to imagine what someone would do in that situation. The real evil was the nazis forcing that choice <cite>Zikten posted [p:961980225] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>It's hard to judge. If the betrayer was Jewish, it is complicated. It would be one thing if they were not Jewish and just fucked her over. But it sounds like they made a choice to save their own family. It's hard to imagine what someone would do in that situation. The real evil was the nazis forcing that choice</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flauros 01/22/22 5:25:46 PM #18:	pegusus123456 posted... FWIW, he was also a Jew and it's suspected he gave up safehouses to keep himself and his family out of the camps. Its worth nothing. Dude condemned others to death to save his fam. --- https://i.imgur.com/EX6Md7k.gif https://i.imgur.com/ygAzHKB.mp4 https://i.imgur.com/c84omp7.gif https://i.imgur.com/Hj9RrC6.mp4 <cite>Flauros posted [p:961980322] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite> <quote>FWIW, he was also a Jew and it's suspected he gave up safehouses to keep himself and his family out of the camps.</quote>Its worth nothing. Dude condemned others to death to save his fam. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 01/22/22 5:26:56 PM #19:	Flauros posted... Its worth nothing. Dude condemned others to death to save his fam. If that is the case, then it was a lose lose situation --- Common sense thought my last sig was stupid - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:961980352] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>Flauros posted... </cite> <quote>Its worth nothing. Dude condemned others to death to save his fam.</quote>If that is the case, then it was a lose lose situation </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
What_ 01/22/22 5:30:45 PM #20:	Proto_Spark posted... Some old papers showed up linking it when they went looking through old cases that were never completely resolved. The guy who told on the Frank family was a prominent jewish person who was supposedly helping the nazis to protect his own family, which makes this hard to just go "what a terrible person" no it doesnt he sold out his own people <cite>What_ posted [p:961980474] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>Proto_Spark posted... </cite> <quote>Some old papers showed up linking it when they went looking through old cases that were never completely resolved. The guy who told on the Frank family was a prominent jewish person who was supposedly helping the nazis to protect his own family, which makes this hard to just go "what a terrible person"</quote> no it doesnt he sold out his own people </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 01/22/22 5:36:28 PM #22:	EnvoyOfTheLight posted... Has something changed for the case to be solidified? There were significant doubts not a week ago. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/18/books/anne-frank-betrayal-arnold-van-den-bergh.html Yeah, this just seems like someone seizing on circumstantial evidence to make a big pile of cash. --- I'm Queen of Tomorrow baby! She/her <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:961980632] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>EnvoyOfTheLight posted... </cite> <quote>Has something changed for the case to be solidified? There were significant doubts not a week ago. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/18/books/anne-frank-betrayal-arnold-van-den-bergh.html</quote>Yeah, this just seems like someone seizing on circumstantial evidence to make a big pile of cash. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aristoph 01/22/22 5:36:42 PM #23:	What_ posted... no it doesnt he sold out his own people He sold out people who shared his religion to save people who shared his blood. It's terrible, but I can't honestly say I wouldn't have done the same if I were in that horrible situation. Be sad for the man who was forced to make a choice nobody should ever have to make. Be mad at the Nazis who made him choose in the first place. --- PSN ID: Aristoph https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj5ydFYxnEODxpQeBswmiAA <cite>Aristoph posted [p:961980638] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>What_ posted... </cite> <quote>no it doesnt he sold out his own people</quote> He sold out people who shared his religion to save people who shared his blood. It's terrible, but I can't honestly say I wouldn't have done the same if I were in that horrible situation. Be sad for the man who was forced to make a choice nobody should ever have to make. Be mad at the Nazis who made him choose in the first place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir_Gawain 01/22/22 5:39:03 PM #24:	What_ posted... no it doesnt he sold out his own people If I had the choice between saving my family and my neighbor's family, I know damn well what I'd do. In any case, even rabbis have said this man shouldn't be judged for this and that we shouldn't forget this is a result of the evil of the Nazis creating this situation, not this man. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Sir_Gawain posted [p:961980707] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>What_ posted... </cite> <quote>no it doesnt he sold out his own people</quote>If I had the choice between saving my family and my neighbor's family, I know damn well what I'd do. In any case, even rabbis have said this man shouldn't be judged for this and that we shouldn't forget this is a result of the evil of the Nazis creating this situation, not this man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackBlueButts 01/22/22 5:41:01 PM #25:	No doubt the nazis went "haha got ya" and tossed him in there as well. --- I like black and blue butts <cite>BlackBlueButts posted [p:961980749] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>No doubt the nazis went "haha got ya" and tossed him in there as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 01/22/22 5:55:03 PM #26:	Flauros posted... Its worth nothing. Dude condemned others to death to save his fam. What should he have done, then? Not that ratting on other people was a good thing, but him not doing so would mean the deaths of his own family. He had no good options available. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:961981102] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>Flauros posted... </cite> <quote>Its worth nothing. Dude condemned others to death to save his fam.</quote>What should he have done, then? Not that ratting on other people was a good thing, but him not doing so would mean the deaths of his own family. He had no good options available. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 01/22/22 5:56:49 PM #27:	America is also to blame. We had Jews coming to our shore on boats and then deported back to Germany in the late 30s <cite>Zikten posted [p:961981153] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>America is also to blame. We had Jews coming to our shore on boats and then deported back to Germany in the late 30s</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 01/22/22 5:59:30 PM #28:	Zikten posted... America is also to blame. We had Jews coming to our shore on boats and then deported back to Germany in the late 30s Yeah, America would have been all too happy to let the Nazis take over Europe had Japan not attacked Pearl Harbor. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:961981218] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>America is also to blame. We had Jews coming to our shore on boats and then deported back to Germany in the late 30s</quote>Yeah, America would have been all too happy to let the Nazis take over Europe had Japan not attacked Pearl Harbor. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Omnislasher 01/22/22 6:02:47 PM #29:	SSJPurple posted... Its kind of weird to think about that horrific stuff was going on not that long ago. 1944 is long ago but when you think about it its not THAT long ago what is this comment there's horrific stuff going on right now <cite>Omnislasher posted [p:961981314] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>SSJPurple posted... </cite> <quote>Its kind of weird to think about that horrific stuff was going on not that long ago. 1944 is long ago but when you think about it its not THAT long ago</quote>what is this comment there's horrific stuff going on right now </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerOats 01/22/22 6:02:52 PM #30:	I guess this is why people hate snitches <cite>PowerOats posted [p:961981316] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>I guess this is why people hate snitches</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EnvoyOfTheLight 01/22/22 6:33:52 PM #32:	Solar_Crimson posted... Yeah, America would have been all too happy to let the Nazis take over Europe had Japan not attacked Pearl Harbor. Eh nah, they had Euro allies to defend, it had just yet to get to that point. --- i horf and i <cite>EnvoyOfTheLight posted [p:961982175] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, America would have been all too happy to let the Nazis take over Europe had Japan not attacked Pearl Harbor.</quote> Eh nah, they had Euro allies to defend, it had just yet to get to that point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 01/22/22 6:40:23 PM #33:	It was wrong of him to do what he did, but he was placed in a lose-lose situation from the looks of things. Don't think there was a 'win condition' for him there. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. <cite>Umbreon posted [p:961982338] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>It was wrong of him to do what he did, but he was placed in a lose-lose situation from the looks of things. Don't think there was a 'win condition' for him there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJPurple 01/22/22 6:43:25 PM #34:	Omnislasher posted... what is this comment there's horrific stuff going on right now No shit Sherlockdid I say there wasnt? Im clearly talking about the Nazi Holocaust specifically. You sound like an All Lives Matter person --- 504 bout it bout it 901 bout it bout it <cite>SSJPurple posted [p:961982413] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>Omnislasher posted... </cite> <quote>what is this comment there's horrific stuff going on right now</quote> No shit Sherlockdid I say there wasnt? Im clearly talking about the Nazi Holocaust specifically. You sound like an All Lives Matter person </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ForsakenHermit 01/22/22 6:44:40 PM #35:	The Anne Frank miniseries with Ben Kingsley as Otto Frank is still one of the most disturbing pieces of media I've ever seen. --- Beware the fanatic! Too often his cure is deadlier by far than the evil he denounces!-Stan Lee RIP Make Arcades Great Again! <cite>ForsakenHermit posted [p:961982447] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>The Anne Frank miniseries with Ben Kingsley as Otto Frank is still one of the most disturbing pieces of media I've ever seen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 01/22/22 6:48:38 PM #36:	Yeah no this is media circus built on circumstantial evidence that hasn't changed in decades. It's absurdly crass to make such a deal of this including calling their book "The Betrayal of Anne Frank." I have to reiterate that they literally just looked at circumstantial evidence that historians already knew about and said "well, it seems this guy is the most plausible suspect, so let's use his name to make money off of outrage for a dead girl." --- https://i.imgur.com/u5kY6Yt.gif https://i.imgur.com/V6HBhkR.png <cite>Doe posted [p:961982591] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>Yeah no this is media circus built on circumstantial evidence that hasn't changed in decades. It's absurdly crass to make such a deal of this including calling their book "The Betrayal of Anne Frank." I have to reiterate that they literally just looked at circumstantial evidence that historians already knew about and said "well, it seems this guy is the most plausible suspect, so let's use his name to make money off of outrage for a dead girl." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 01/22/22 6:49:55 PM #37:	littlebro07 posted... the one that always gets me is Anne Frank and Martin Luther King Jr were born the same year Betty White was older than both of them. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:961982638] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>littlebro07 posted... </cite> <quote>the one that always gets me is Anne Frank and Martin Luther King Jr were born the same year</quote>Betty White was older than both of them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 01/22/22 6:53:25 PM #38:	as a Jewish person during the Holocaust, what was he supposed to do? have him and his loved ones die instead? it was an impossible situation, and the only ones to blame are the Nazi regime that put them in it in the first place. plus, as someone posted, there are doubts about him giving Anne Frank and her family up since he should have been hiding around that time. --- https://imgur.com/mApEnf3 <cite>g0ldie posted [p:961982756] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>as a Jewish person during the Holocaust, what was he supposed to do? have him and his loved ones die instead? it was an impossible situation, and the only ones to blame are the Nazi regime that put them in it in the first place. plus, as someone posted, there are doubts about him giving Anne Frank and her family up since he should have been hiding around that time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
2SweetforTurtle 01/22/22 7:08:46 PM #39:	imagine getting doxxed 70 years after you died --- Slow and steady wins the race <cite>2SweetforTurtle posted [p:961983283] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>imagine getting doxxed 70 years after you died </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 01/23/22 12:30:28 PM #40:	The only people to blame are the nazis at the end of the day, he would not have been in a lose lose situation had the nazis not been hunting jews. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:962003162] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>The only people to blame are the nazis at the end of the day, he would not have been in a lose lose situation had the nazis not been hunting jews. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robot2600 01/23/22 12:33:08 PM #41:	If you've ever seen that scene from Inglorious Bastards, you'd know how nazis could get you to sell out others. --- I missed the part where that's my problem. <cite>Robot2600 posted [p:962003222] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>If you've ever seen that scene from Inglorious Bastards, you'd know how nazis could get you to sell out others. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 01/23/22 12:34:49 PM #42:	Robot2600 posted... If you've ever seen that scene from Inglorious Bastards, you'd know how nazis could get you to sell out others. This, and many times the people hiding did not have weapons or a way to fight back. All you could do was hide and hope your neighbors and the people hiding you did not give you up. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:962003272] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>Robot2600 posted... </cite> <quote>If you've ever seen that scene from Inglorious Bastards, you'd know how nazis could get you to sell out others.</quote>This, and many times the people hiding did not have weapons or a way to fight back. All you could do was hide and hope your neighbors and the people hiding you did not give you up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 01/23/22 12:37:20 PM #43:	People are rejecting that finding. he head of the Anne Frank Fund on Sunday rejected as full of errors a claim that Jewish notary Arnold van den Bergh is the leading suspect in betraying the teen Holocaust diarist to the Nazis during World War II.Published last week, author Rosemary Sullivans The Betrayal of Anne Frank: A Cold Case Investigation, determined based on an anonymous letter sent to Franks father, Otto that van den Bergh, a member of the Nazi-appointed Jewish Council, gave addresses of Jews in hiding to the Germans in exchange for freedom. Among those addresses, the investigators claim, was Otto Franks office building, where the concealed rooms were located. Adding to historians who have branded the finding rubbish, John Goldsmith, president of the Basel-based fund set up by Otto Frank, said the claim wasnt sufficiently backed up and was tantamount to a conspiracy theory. It contributes not to uncovering the truth but to confusion and in addition it is full of errors, Goldsmith told Swiss newspaper Blick am Sonntag, according to Reuters. This proof just has not been produced. Simply to disseminate an assertion that then in the public discussion becomes a kind of fact borders on a conspiracy theory, he charged. https://www.timesofisrael.com/anne-frank-fund-head-slams-findings-on-diarists-betrayal-as-full-of-errors/ --- To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships. W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:962003336] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>People are rejecting that finding. he head of the Anne Frank Fund on Sunday rejected as full of errors a claim that Jewish notary Arnold van den Bergh is the leading suspect in betraying the teen Holocaust diarist to the Nazis during World War II.Published last week, author Rosemary Sullivans The Betrayal of Anne Frank: A Cold Case Investigation, determined based on an anonymous letter sent to Franks father, Otto that van den Bergh, a member of the Nazi-appointed Jewish Council, gave addresses of Jews in hiding to the Germans in exchange for freedom. Among those addresses, the investigators claim, was Otto Franks office building, where the concealed rooms were located. <quote>Adding to historians who have branded the finding rubbish, John Goldsmith, president of the Basel-based fund set up by Otto Frank, said the claim wasnt sufficiently backed up and was tantamount to a conspiracy theory. It contributes not to uncovering the truth but to confusion and in addition it is full of errors, Goldsmith told Swiss newspaper Blick am Sonntag, according to Reuters. This proof just has not been produced. Simply to disseminate an assertion that then in the public discussion becomes a kind of fact borders on a conspiracy theory, he charged. </quote> https://www.timesofisrael.com/anne-frank-fund-head-slams-findings-on-diarists-betrayal-as-full-of-errors/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 01/23/22 12:37:52 PM #44:	When we read The Diary of Anne Frank in 5th grade, I developed a huge crush on her. I'm very angry at this guy even though there was extenuating circumstances. --- I don't believe in belts. There should be no ranking system for toughness. <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:962003351] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>When we read The Diary of Anne Frank in 5th grade, I developed a huge crush on her. I'm very angry at this guy even though there was extenuating circumstances. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir_Gawain 01/23/22 12:38:18 PM #45:	Jiek_Fafn posted... When we read The Diary of Anne Frank in 5th grade, I developed a huge crush on her. I'm very angry at this guy even though there was extenuating circumstances. Jeff Mangum is that you --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Sir_Gawain posted [p:962003361] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>Jiek_Fafn posted... </cite> <quote>When we read The Diary of Anne Frank in 5th grade, I developed a huge crush on her. I'm very angry at this guy even though there was extenuating circumstances.</quote>Jeff Mangum is that you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 01/23/22 12:43:38 PM #46:	Sir_Gawain posted... Jeff Mangum is that you I just googled this and I'm starting to wonder if I am. A lot of the things I've said are very similar to that theory. --- I don't believe in belts. There should be no ranking system for toughness. <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:962003477] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>Sir_Gawain posted... </cite> <quote>Jeff Mangum is that you</quote>I just googled this and I'm starting to wonder if I am. A lot of the things I've said are very similar to that theory. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 01/23/22 12:52:07 PM #47:	It wouldn't surprise me. Jewish Councils frequently operated like this. Until now, I figured the Franks simply hade their luck run out. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:962003679] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>It wouldn't surprise me. Jewish Councils frequently operated like this. Until now, I figured the Franks simply hade their luck run out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Super-Mario-Fan 01/23/22 12:52:50 PM #48:	R1masher posted... we may never know the identity, but let this serve as a warning to what humanity is capable of Survival first Empathy second It's always that way and will always be. --- Currently playing: Dying Light Platinum Edition Upcoming: Kirby and the Forgotten Land, Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope, Bayonetta 3 <cite>Super-Mario-Fan posted [p:962003698] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>R1masher posted... </cite> <quote>we may never know the identity, but let this serve as a warning to what humanity is capable of</quote> Survival first Empathy second It's always that way and will always be. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 01/23/22 12:55:50 PM #49:	Yeah, I still think this is worthless knowledge that we'd be better off without, presuming that it's even true. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:962003760] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, I still think this is worthless knowledge that we'd be better off without, presuming that it's even true. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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sondast 01/23/22 2:09:46 PM #51:	SSJPurple posted... Its kind of weird to think about that horrific stuff was going on not that long ago. 1944 is long ago but when you think about it its not THAT long ago As the years go by we naturally lose them, but there are still a lot of people alive today that saw original nazis with their own eyes. My own grandmother passed years ago, but her siblings are still alive and they all fled from the fascists. --- Take a lesson from parakeets. If you're ever feeling lonely, just eat in front of a mirror. <cite>sondast posted [p:962005388] in After 77 y... [t:79864985]...</cite> <quote>SSJPurple posted... </cite> <quote>Its kind of weird to think about that horrific stuff was going on not that long ago. 1944 is long ago but when you think about it its not THAT long ago</quote>As the years go by we naturally lose them, but there are still a lot of people alive today that saw original nazis with their own eyes. My own grandmother passed years ago, but her siblings are still alive and they all fled from the fascists. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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